ED Magedson – Founder
Pathfinder Business Strategies10315 102nd Terrace Sebastian, Florida United States of America
SPECIAL UPDATE: October 13 2012: Pathfinder Business Strategies remains committed to increased customer satisfaction and has improved their business practices over the years to better serve their customers. Pathfinder Business Strategies is truly dedicated to making sure their customers are satisfied and that any complaints which do arise are addressed promptly and fairly.
To date, Pathfinder Business Strategies has made good faith efforts to resolve all complaints reported on Ripoff Report. Based on our experience, the member business has proven to be among the top members of the Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program as a Verified Safe Business.
Over time and since becoming a member, Pathfinder Business Strategies has remained actively engaged and improving the way they address customer service complaints. As an active and current member of the Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program we are happy to report that now more than ever Pathfinder Business Strategies remains committed to improving customer satisfaction.
Remember, no company or individual can ever satisfy 100% of the people 100% of the time. There are no products or services that will always be perfect for everyone and even the best companies will receive complaints from time to time. However, by participating in the Corporate Advocacy Program, the member business has made a commitment to working with its customers to resolve complaints quickly and fairly whenever possible.
Please keep in mind that as a consumer you have some responsibilities as well. Success has many definitions that based on your past experiences, current situation and your perceived expectations. Success with any product or service is always based on the proper application and understanding. The fastest car will not run if you never turn the engine on. Look at how you used the product or service that was provided in relation with the instructions that you received. The Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program will help you get your voice heard but please be prepared with documentation and fair representation of your concern, also have an idea of how the company can fix your concern. Can they offer additional services, extend warranties, offer a fair refund or just get you talking with someone that can help. ..let them know and let us know!
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Rip-off Report REVIEW:
Positive Rating and Recognition has been given to for its Commitment to Excellence in customer service.
Rip-off Report's review of Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles uncovered an ongoing commitment to total client satisfaction. This means that potential clients can expect the company will always work towards finding a mutually satisfactory resolution to any complaints or concerns; more importantly, executives at Pathfinder Business Strateiges are concerned with the immediate & long-term success of their distributors and, Pathfinder Business Strategies is listening carefully to the feedback its clients give. As Drew Miles stated, After all, when becoming creative to make things better, making changes to improve the business isn't always easy, but it's well worth the effort that's required for constant improvement.
One top executive of the company stated to Rip-off Report that, Pathfinder Business Strategies corporate philosophy is based on the premise that Pathfinder Business Strategies will continually seek improvement in every aspect in every department of the company. From the first phone call we are committed to excellence. Because we listen to our clients, we know what needs to get done.
Rip-off Report has confirmed that Pathfinder Business Strategies employs a seasoned, professional staff specifically dedicated to helping their clients succeed. Couple this with the company's Support Center, and you have a support program that is top-notch. Perhaps this is the reason why Pathfinder Business Strategies has never had a single complaint with any governmental agency. This is remarkable considering the company has been in business for many years and has saved thousands of people thousands of dollars in taxes while helping them protect their assets!
Rip-off Report has also discovered that majority of reports posted against Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles were all from the same person who is a competitor attempting to slander their good name by filing the bogus reports. Rip-off Report is occasionally abused this way, so we remind everyone that it is illegal to use Rip-off Report to slander any person or business.
It is our opinion that potential clients can feel confident in the fact that Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles have worked with thousands of clients and have successfully helped these people save money in taxes. ..any problems with any member of the Corporate Advocacy Program.. consumers should just contact us here at Rip-off Report..
In summary, after our review, which included discussions with Drew Miles, Rip-off Report is convinced that the company has been and is committed to quality delivery of its products and services resulting in total & complete client satisfaction.
Read more about Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles Commitment to Excellence and Total Consumer Satisfaction and why consumers should feel safe, confident and secure when doing business with any member of Rip-off Report's Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program. ..yes, a long name for a program that does a lot for both consumers and businesses alike.
Read about Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program,..A program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a member business. this program works.
===================== NOW TO THE ORIGINAL REPORT THAT WAS FILED
===================== Pathfinder Business Strategies - Pathfinder Business Strategies/Drew Miles organization is a scam. They rip off people by promising to save taxes. Sebastian Florida
Pathfinder Business Strategies program is nothing but a scam to get people to pay for Diamond program which is a basic tax help. They have different grades of programs of which the Silver program is at 10% of the Diamond program. What they deliver with the Diamond program is nothing but a cookie-cutter bound document fed into a basic finance program with questions and answers. Why does one have to pay $25,000 for a simple program which can be gotten for less than $100 and a report printed from it? Our efforts to work with Pathfinder are a waste of time as they are unable to perform on their guarantee. They insist they have provided excellent service and we feel it is mediocre at the best. They claimed they are geniuses with breakthrough advice and guarantees. It is a combination of over promising the product, coaches that are not experienced in working on advanced strategies, pitching strategies that their team doesn't understand, and pitching strategies that may be too aggressive.
Their so called strategies are empty promises. The problem is Pathfinder report contains obviously known strategies or strategies we are already using or possible fraudulent strategies. Here are the basic issues we disagree with them:
1) In the course of the coaching, there actually was no coaching. It was their two coaches asking redundant questions week after week. We really got nowhere on coaching and all they did was read off the report. In fact, we thought we were still going to get into the meat of the coaching program only to find out THAT WAS the coaching program. They need to reevaluate the credentials of their coaches and not criticize their client's accountant's capability. 2) They suggest forming a separate company as a shifting method to defer income to another corporation. From our perspective, this is tax deferral not reduction 3) Even for the Diamond program their basic strategies are same ones repeated in CDs and conferences they sell. 4) They push strategies such as the Treasure Coast Trust and Freedom Plus System which their coaches had no idea how they worked. We do not feel comfortable about the Treasure Coast Trust as we do not have enough specifics on the structure and we have not seen anything on paper about the Freedom Plus System. They cannot count these strategies towards the $100,000 tax savings as we believe the IRS does not endorse tax evasion programs like these.
They are pretty good at stalling by asking for more and more of your personal and business financials to avoid fulfilling the guarantee. The coaches hardly use the information you give them as they just put some numbers in the cookie-cutter report and they are done. They merely get around by ridiculing professional accountants and IRS to attract customers. We provided them the same financial data as to our accountant, but Pathfinder will keep on asking for more and more in steps until you are frustrated. If they are confident of their abilities and their guarantee then they should not have a problem with this. If they cannot fulfill the guarantee which they did not, they are required to return additional 10% for their failure by their own terms. To put an end to our regrets of getting help from Pathfinder we agreed to pay them for the Silver program, however they do not want to live up to their guarantee. We did not see a difference between their Silver and their Diamond program and so we offered to pay for what was fair.
Unfortunately, the bank did not refund our money as we did not have a credit slip from Pathfinder. However, they know how to outsmart the credit card companies.
In summary, Pathfinder exactly knows how far they can commit the fraud and therefore they make the guarantees but do not honor them. They know how to be sleazy and screw the customer. This complaint is worthy of this web site as Pathfinder is a RIP-OFF
Dissatisfied Member Mountain View, California
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