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Complaint Review: Sears - Redmond Washington

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 Dear Nora,     On 11-16-2015 I went into the store and asked to speak to the store manager regarding 2 defective beds and being overcharged on that purchase made from that store in Oct. 2014. (I did contact the store via phone call prior to this date about the defective mattresses (sagging/collapsing) and was emailed a letter detailing the requirements and pictures necessary to file a claim). I was informed the store manager was out that day and I ended up speaking to Michael Skibinski from the electronics dept. I told him of my problem with the mattresses, being unable to file a claim and the overcharge. He asked why I waited 13 months to bring up the overcharge issue with the store. I informed him I have many health problems and I went into the store after being at another store that referred me to that specific store because they had the model of bed I was interested in. I made it very clear I was feeling very ill that day and just wanted to try the mattress, purchase it and go home to take my medication.  We ended up going to the mattress dept since he said he didn't understand the codes, he didn't explain what codes he was referring to, and speak with the salesperson for that dept. On the way to the dept he was looking at a printout of the purchase information I was able to print from the website as well as my receipt and said that something was very wrong since the amounts shown would have been well over $2k instead of the $1104.86 shown. Upon contacting the mattress salespeson she said she just started and didn't really know anything about the dept yet. He went to a register and was looking up information. I did show him 2 pictures of the tags of both mattresses to show that I had purchased the exact same set. He said they were meaningless and did not include any model number. I read some of the information on the bedding prior to taking the pictures and I understood it to show the model number but he refused to listen to me. Things from that point just went horribly wrong for me and I could tell from his body language and the way he spoke to me that he didn't want to waste any more of him time on me. He rudely stated that I wasn't overcharged and even if I was there wasn't anything that could be done since I waited too long to bring it to their attention.  He walked away from me and spoke quietly to the salesperson then came back and said I had purchased 2 different beds. When I told him I did not he kept changing information as to why there was a price difference. The things he made up were that I purchase 2 different beds, 2 different foundation, then lastly that the cushion design of the beds were different causing the price difference. I continually told him I was very specific with the salesman at the time of my purchase that the price of $480 was for the set, mattress and foundation, and that I wanted 2 of "this" bed as I sat on it so there should have not been any misunderstanding and if there was I shouldn't have been overcharged due to his error.  Michael then went back to the register and harshly stated there was no discrepancy and if so NOTHING could be done. I refused to accept that and told him so. He said he would send the information to headquarters (I am not positive on where it was going) and that it would take 10 business hours for me to get a reply from them via telephone. I wasn't able to see what he was typing and he didn't give a print out for my records. Upon finishing he said that was all he could do. At this point I was extremely upset and angry. Not once during the incident did I yell or curse or make any scene. I was very firm in that I was overcharged and not happy with the service I received. Michael said he was done.  At that point I was very angry and went to 3 men speaking to the sales person about mattresses and told them of my experience with Michael, the defective mattresses and the different stories told to me about why the price difference/overcharge. I told them 3 things: 1. Do not buy Sealy. To check reviews of their mattresses of all price ranges as they had very negative comments with the same problem I had.  2. Prior to purchasing any mattress go online and look up reviews on the mattress so they wouldn't end up in the situation I was in.  3. Not to purchase anything from Sears and I briefly told them of my experience in attempting to get help with the mattresses, being overcharged and Michael refusing to help me (and in that order). I was across the mattress dept from Michael and at this point he yelled at me from across the dept I needed to leave the store. I said "no I don't, I haven't done anything wrong!". He again yelled at me to leave and again I said no because I had done nothing wrong. He stated I was harassing the customers. I asked the gentlemen if they felt harassed by me in any way and was told "no". One man stated they hadn't planned on purchasing anything anyways because they (mattresses) were too expensive.  At this point Michael stated if I did't leave he would call the police to remove me from the store. I kept telling him I wasn't finished because I had other things I needed to do. I left that dept and chose not to buy the shirt and jeans my son needed. I did stop at the jewelry area because there was a sale and I wanted earrings. Meanwhile, I'm guessing he was a security guy, was stalking me. The sales lady kindly told me if I minded waiting because she was helping other customers and I had no problem.  I walked around to the other side of the case where she said the earrings were and I saw a display of cubic Zirconia earrings on sale for $7.99.  At this time I saw the stalker walk to the sales woman and whisper something to her. From that point she stayed on the other side of the counter. Three officers showed up and told me to leave the store. I informed officer B. Campbell #0490, Redmond PD, that I wanted to talk to sales woman about those earrings. He said I was no longer wanted in the store and needed to leave or I would be arrested.  I was outraged by this and joked to officer Campbell about needing 3 officers for me....who did nothing wrong and wanting to see the earrings. (Mine were lost in a surgery I had on Oct 23rd in Tacoma, WA. and even though they were cheap they looked nice in the picture and I wanted another pair since I had none). He said I had to leave and I asked again if I could just get the earrings and was told no. I asked if I could speak with the sales woman about the earrings & was told NO. I then asked the officer if he could ask the woman if those specific earrings were on sale at that price at other stores. She looked at the display picture, paused and just said yes. I made a comment, which I don't recall at this time to offficer Campbell, and he said I could file a complaint with the store. During this whole situation I wasn't sure about Michael's name so I asked for it. Staker guy said he wasn't giving me the name. I asked how was I supposed to file a complaint when I didn't have the guys name. He stated Michael. I asked for a last name and he said NO. With a common name like Michael I wasn't likely to get much help so I said to at least give me his last initial. Again stalker guy said NO. I looked at officer Campbell and made a comment about how to file a complaint on "Michael" alone. I then asked stalker what dept he worked in and he hesitated but said electronics. I was walked out of the store & told I was banned, YES~BANNED for a year. If I came back within that time I would be arrested.  I was treated like a criminal and I'm very sure portrayed as one from other customers for...."asking for help in that transaction & any help I could get in replacing the mattresses". I have no clue what "stalker" told her but she looked "terrified" of me. During this whole time I never made a scene. Michael is the one who yelled at me to leave. When I'm TOLD to leave and I have done nothing wrong I refused just to make a point. I wasn't going to be bullied by this pathetic excuse of an salesman/manager in telling me what to do. I didn't steal anything, never had in my entire life, I didn't go ballistic, I didn't attack anyone, didn't have any weapons, I have no criminal record and have worked in law enforcement and the state corrections dept. from the time I was 20 till I was 37.  For some reason all my purchases have been deleted from the Sears website but along with purchasing 2 bed sets, I also purchased mattress protectors, bedding, curtains, bath set, along with clothing, shoes, etc. I was loyal because prior to going to Redmond I was always treated as a valued customer at my local Sears. Living on SSD is hard but I was able to make these purchases and chose your store and this is how I'm treated?!?!?!  I have filed a complaint regarding the mattresses with the Attorney General as well as Sears since I bought the mattresses at your store. I have disc disease on my spine so I need a better bed but if the bed is too hard it makes my back hurt very much. I live on $1236 a month and am on SSD because I have been sick since 2012. It may not seem a lot to you but every little bit of money I have I try to save. As a prior loyal customer of Sears I ask that something be done to rectify this matter.  BTW....I went to the Sears in Federal Way and NO earrings so not only was I treated like a felon, had the jewelry sales woman looking terrified of me I was also lied to. I spoke with the manager at our Sears and he was appalled at the treatment I received at that store and it felt good knowing he was kind and believed in customer service. He gave me the number for the National Customer Relations office 800-549-4505. I called that number and was told they couldn't help me but gave me your email address, Anne Hand's email email along with Michaels last name. I'd also like to file a complaint on stalker (I think his name is Chris Medeins) for slandering me when he went solely by what lies Michael said about me and spread it to other employees, especially the sales woman at the jewelry counter. I want the trespass order terminated as I did nothing wrong other than upset a very unethical and discriminatory assistant manager.  If this is the type of managers your stores opt to employee I will pass the information along about Sears employees.  The Redmond Police case # is 15-022488. I again ask that you rectify this matter & take actions against Michael for the needless treatment I received from him.  Please contact me so I may speak with someone in person.

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#7 Consumer Comment

Interesting Double Standard...

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, November 26, 2015

I want what any reasonable customer would...some type of assistance in how I can replace my mattress.
- NO...You as a "reasonable" customer is trying to get back money you felt that you were overcharged 13 months ago.


 I didn't say I wanted to be an exemption and get around the rules.
- Of course you didn't say that specifically.  However, you did say that you were sent the claim forms from the manufacturer but didn't want to do them because you "felt" you couldn't meet the criteria.  Well guess what, that is what you needed to do.  So anything outside of that IS asking for an exception and trying to get around the rules.


I need access to the store since that is where I purchased the mattresses
- Again no you don't.  Sears is a NATIONAL chain and any store could have helped you if they wanted to.

Now, just a few final thoughts here.  This is a PUBLIC web site and as such the PUBLIC may respond and contrary to your beliefs not all of the public may agree with you.  Where on that let's take your "freedom of speech" angle on this.  Yes, you didn't specfically say that but you have given every indication you fully believe it. 

So it becomes very interesting when someone excercies their "freedom of speech" and points out flaws in your claims they are all of the sudden a "cruel", "hateful", "sick", "demented", "pathetic" person.

I think even you can see why that becomes quite an interesting Double-Standard you have, where it is find to excercise "freedom of speech" as long as it agrees with what you think. 

The sad part is that I know you will still see everything as "hateful" and won't actually realize what you are saying.  Perhaps even trying to come up with some excuse as to why I should not have the same "rights" you seem to think you are entitled to.  But at least I tried, however there is a point of diminishing return so I won't be responding anymore.

So again, hope everything works out for you and I really do hope you try to get your problem solved by the "good Sears" and let us know the outcome.

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#6 Author of original report

You are truly a hateful & cruel person

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POSTED: Wednesday, November 25, 2015

I don't want media coverage & am not doing BLM crap. You seem to only read what you want to. I want what any reasonable customer would...some type of assistance in how I can replace my mattress. I didn't say I wanted to be an exemption and get around the rules. I was looking for advice on ways they may have on this issue. I am glad I don't have people like you in my life. You are a very sick, demented and pathetic person. Now just please leave me alone. I have done absolutely nothing to you so I don't comprehend people like you who just are so filled with hate they you opt to harass people. He was the assistant manager and I need access to the store since that is where I purchased the mattresses. Unlike you I don't harass or go out of my way to antagonize anyone. Seek counseling for your anger issues. Have a wonderful holiday.

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#5 Consumer Comment

You have just proven....

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, November 25, 2015

I did nothing wrong and I even spoke to my local Sears manager about the incident. He said it's freedom of speech and the way the asst manager handled it was despicable and was very apologitic on behalf of the other stores customer service.

- Really?  So I guess according to this wonderful Sears manager this other store violated your First Amendement Rights.  So where is the ACLU?  Where is the Media?  Where is the line of Civil Rights lawyers who would love to go up against a huge corporation for violating the Constitution?

Oh that's right...Sears is Private Property and has nothing to do with the First Amendement.

What was posted was my letter to them. BTW...there is nothing illegal regarding matters reporting defective products, bad customer service, etc.

- Never said it was illegal.  If it is the truth, you really have no problem.  If it is not the truth...well then you may. 

But even with this it was also NOT illegal for Sears to ban you from their property. 

His clothing was going to be in excess of $50.

- Yes and in your original report, the way you talked about this you intentionally(IMO) left it up to the reader to infer that the only reason you were leaving the clothes there was because how you were treated.  So now we find out the REAL reason.

If you would have read the attachment I called the claims department and they sent me paperwork but the requirements to replace mattresses from Sealy are almost impossible to meet.

- Thank you for confirming that YOU went to Sears to try and skip the process and hope that they would "make an exception" for you, when in reality Sears has NOTHING to do with this claim.

 

Now do you know what is totally funny in this entire situation, and you don't even seem to grasp it?

This store and the store manager that you have said is so wonderful, are actually doing NOTHING for you.  In the first instance they palmed you off to this other store because they amazingly didn't have the matress you were looking for.  Then when you go back to that store and complain.  Did he offer to handle the situation for you?  NO the ONLY thing he did was again palm you off to the Corporate number. 

Now, you see if the store manager really wanted to "make things right" with you would have refunded you the amount you were overcharged, a store manager has that power and doesn't need to have any sort of inventory to do it.  Yet did they do that?  Oh and as for this store not having the matress.  Guess what, again if he really wanted to help you he could have had it transfered from the other store.  Yes, again a store manager has this power and I would bet he probably does it a few times a weeks for various items.

So here is what you can try.  Go back to what I will call the "good Sears", and tell them that you want to be credited for the price you were overcharged.  At the same time tell them that you want to have the warranty handled through them because you know the store manager has the power to request merchandise to be transfered. 

Let us know how that goes...

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POSTED: Wednesday, November 25, 2015

I did nothing wrong and I even spoke to my local Sears manager about the incident. He said it's freedom of speech and the way the asst manager handled it was despicable and was very apologitic on behalf of the other stores customer service. He gave me the number to report it at the corporate level but they gave me the emails for the district & regional managers. What was posted was my letter to them. BTW...there is nothing illegal regarding matters reporting defective products, bad customer service, etc. That's why these sites are here. To inform consumers of defective products, services, on all types of businesses. I in no way harassed the gentelmen and they stated so. I was basically telling them what their outcome could potentionally be if they had the same problem. All your "caps" are a waste of time because I really think nothing of you. I don't know you or anything about you other than you are a really hate filled person. Yeah...I could have left the store but I wasn't going to be bullied by an assistant manager who was in the wrong.  My son is very well taken care of, and as I told Robert, I had ordered clothing online from my son a few nights prior but he needed a shirt and pants for an interview, which were purchased elsewhere. So I wanted an $8 dollar pair of earrings...if that makes me a bad person you're pathetic. I have been ill since fall of 2012 and am on a lot of medication so I made an error in thinking this particular store was as reputable as my local Sears and failed to look over the receipt because I was sick to my stomach and wanted to get home. You really need to seek anger management classes as well as getting diagnosed for whatever mental illness you suffer from. You're a ticking time~bomb. I feel for your family & friends, if there are any. I'm disabled as well but I don't go bashing on everyone like you probably do. I asked for the removal of the ban because I need to deal with that store since that is where the purchase was made. DUH...it's jnot to harass the pathetic excuse of an assistant manager.  Get a life & let go of that hate.

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#3 Author of original report

fyi

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POSTED: Wednesday, November 25, 2015

I met my local Sears manager and he said I did absolutely nothing wrong, freedom of speech, and the treatment I received was deplorable. This is the store I always shopped at but they didn't have the plush mattress on the floor so I had to go to that specific store where all the problems occurred. I did not keep the men from purchasing the mattresses, threaten them or tell them to flee the store.  I informed them of what happened with my mattresses & one stated he opted to shop elsewhere prior to my discussion because he felt the prices were too high so they didn't lose a sale due to me anyway. As for slander...it's telling the truth about the service at the store as well as the quality of the products. These sites are for everyone to write about bad service or products so those of us that care about customer service can find the best stores. 

Also for your information...I very rarely buy anything for myself. What is left of my disablilty goes toward my son and his needs. His clothing was going to be in excess of $50. The earrings were $7.99 and I haven't seen any thing that looked as nice as the ones displayed for that price. My son's clothing and shoes come from department stores and I always shop for him first. When I have a little left my clothes comes from Goodwill as I am home all day anyways I really don't care about my clothing. He has always come first so I don't see how an $8 purchase of earrings makes me selfish. I have fought tooth & nail for my son in a very ugly custody battle and it was because my son's father was an alcoholic, verbally abuse, controlling and was letting my son drink alcohol at the age of 6. He & his wife made my life hell because they had a lot of money and thought it was funny to see me upset when they threatened to take him away. So stop being a bigot hating on me when you know nothing of what I've gone though in my life. All I wanted was a refund and help in getting a new mattress since the ones I purchase started collapsing within 6 months of my purchase. 

If you would have read the attachment I called the claims department and they sent me paperwork but the requirements to replace mattresses from Sealy are almost impossible to meet. Look up reviews in general on Sealy mattresses and you'll see I'm not the only one who is unhappy with Sealy and their warranty. I was just hoping the store manager could offer solutions in helping me get a replacement. 

 

As for Mr disabled, you should be ashamed of yourself.  I have had doctor appointments at least 3-4 times per month since 2012. I have numerous specialists that are necessary for my healthcare. It's not just a cold or flu. Being disabled yourself it's sad that you are making presumptions on my medical health. I have no idea what you are going through and you have no idea of what I am going through. Not that I have to explain myself but I have been on strong pain medication for several years while a lot of tests are being done to determine what is wrong.  Guess you never felt so sick you just wanted to get home but that is how I feel when I am out too long. I just signed the paperwork and came home. I don't & wouldn't judge anyone on appearance. I walk in my own shoes so I have no clue what other people are going through. I purchased the mattress because mine was a very cheap $100 twin bed set that was about 10 yrs old and caused a great deal of back pain. 

 

I posted this because I don't want anyone to spend a lot of money and have the same trouble I did. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and I am actually one person that is greatful for sites like this so I can find good stores with people who aren't there just to take your money. Had I known this I would not have shopped at Sears.

 

Go hate on someone else. All I want is decent service at this point and help. If you had the same type situation I'm sure you wouldn't just let it go but I guess you feel all manly now that you've bashed on me. Thanks for even more pathetic egotistical behavior. 

 

 

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#2 Consumer Comment

War and Peace was as shorter read....

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, November 24, 2015

I really did try to get through this epic novel of yours, and think I have the basis of your issue.  You somehow think you are entitled to things that in reality you are not.

First on being "overcharged".  The salesperson was right in asking the question...why in the world would you wait 13 months?  You say because you are sick..really?  Unless you were carried out by ambulance at the register and never got a chance to look at the receipt, any overcharge should have been obvious and addressed at the time of purchase.

The warranty.  Did the warranty tell you to take it into Sears and get a new one?  Or did you just figure you would do that and ignore the rest of the instructions on the warranty.  As in just about every case I have seen for a warranty claim on this, you are required to have someone come out to your location and personally inspect the matress before they authorize a replacement, and all you had was pictures.

Next, you say you worked with law enforcement.  If that is true then you should know the laws about Private Property(which Sears is).  A business has the right to ask you to leave for any reason.  You don't need to be carrying a weapon, you don't need to be yelling.  If they feel that they no longer want you on their property, they have that right to have you removed. If you refuse to go..they can contact the police and have you removed by force. 

Now, I do like how you were so upset that you put down the shirt and pants your son needed.  Yet, had no problem taking care of your selfish self to look at some earrings that you liked.  Not only that but then you got totally upset when they said they aren't going to sell them to you.  In fact you got so upset that it appears that they had to call the cops on you to get you removed.  I bet your son will feel really special when he reads this.

 

 

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#1 General Comment

another self entitled

AUTHOR: Tyg - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, November 24, 2015

You were asked to leave. YOU do not have the right to interfer with ANY sale or customer. By interjecting YOUR opinions to potential customers YOU were activly attempting to destroy their sales. This IS A I!LEGAL ACT!! SOyou were told to leave. You chose not and then you WILLINGLY stalled leaving the store. Once you were told to leave you had no right to stick around. Its NOT public property its private property. So in essence YOU WERE ASKED TO LEAVE AND DID NOT! Thankfully since you seem to think you are above the law both in the business and here on the web, YOU are the one who gets to pay for it. You would rather commit two crimes then admit that you are in the wrong. Its no different then if YOU told someone to leave YOUR home and they did not. YOU do Not have the right to interfer with thier business in any way and you do not have the right to spill your lies on a public consumption website. These are the two illegal acts YOU HAVE WILLINGLY COMMITED!!! Youoffer no proof that you overpaid. You offer no video of ANY wrongdoing on their part. Instead of submitting proof and turning your post from defamation and slander to a consumer report, you use supposition and baseless acusation and offer THAT  as proof. The correct way to handle this was NOT to go terrorize some poor sales person a full YEAR after you supposedly over paid but to approach them at a corporate level. So your claims of overpaying is on giant crock that YOU used to justify your acting out.. You were in the wrong there and you are in the wrong here. Did you even read the terms and conditions? No self entitled mouthbreathers like you refuse to rake responsibility for thier actions. Thankfully YOU have given them the ammo they need to sue you. What you have WILLINGLY posted here can get you sued and trust me they have better lawyers then you can ever afford. No I dont work for them but I wish I did. I would just love to be there after they have sued you so I could video your face when you recieve a judgment against you. The REAL issue is your self entitlment.  YOU justify your actions by wrapping yourself in rigious indignation. You THINK  you are right at least in your mind and NEVER consider that you are WRONG!! This is going to cost you especially once your post comes to thier attention. As a handicapped person you make sick. Personally I cant wait to see what excuse YOU are going to give for violating thier property and thier rights. Heres a hint, there is no excuse that will LEGALLY justify your actions there and here. 

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