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Complaint Review: Actuarial and Medical Innovations-Hal Butler - Lebanon Tennessee

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  • Reported By: Brenda — Nashville Tennessee United States of America
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  • Actuarial and Medical Innovations-Hal Butler 101 B West Main Street Lebanon, Tennessee United States of America

Actuarial and Medical Innovations - Hal Butler - Actuarial Innovations (Hal Butler) not interviewing female canidates Lebanon, Tennessee

*Consumer Comment: Wish that I was never offered an interview

*Consumer Comment: You are half right . . .

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I cant speak negative of Mr. Butlers Medical Innovations; however, I can testify about the practices of Mr. Butlers Actuarial Innovations, or the lack of.  Just like many other people in todays economy I have been trying to find a job with security.  I have been in the business world for several years and suddenly found myself unemployed due to the downsizing of the company that I worked for.   I have been seeing the same advertisement for an Entry Level Assistant Actuarial Analyst posted through a company called Actuarial Innovations.   After seeing the posting I called into the office of Actuarial Innovations asking a few questions to see if I would be qualified and was told to submit my resume to actuary@mdinnovations.org which I did.  I received an email giving me dates in which they would like to schedule an interview.  After not hearing anything I called the office and ask if they had received my resume and she said yes and that they would be calling to schedule a time for me to come in.  I have called several days in a roll trying to schedule an interview and the receptionist Kelley Bilbo keeps putting me off.  First, saying that they were booked for the entire week, so I ask about the availability of the following week and she told me that she would take my name and number and get back with me.  That never happened!!!!  My friend James who has the same Bachelors degree in Mathematics from the University of Tennessee, as I do, submitted his resume after I did and got an interview for this position.  After James interviewed with Mr. Butler he told me that is was more or less for a class that they offer to help people get into the Actuarial field not an actual job.  This to me is false advertisement and very misleading.  I called the office of Actuarial Innovations and still didnt get to speak with Mr. Butler I was routed to another person in his office.  I explained that I had been trying to get an interview and that I kept getting different excuses.  I also wanted him to explain why James got an interview and not me and his reply was that Kelley scheduled the interviews not him.  I told him that I would be filing a complaint with the BBB and he acted as if he didnt care. 

After reading some of the other reports on here I can only assume how Kelley got this position.  As far as, my experience with Actuarial and Medical Innovations I wasnt even given a chance because I am a female, I say this because James interviewed after I applied. 

So beware people this isnt for a position but a class that will end up costing money that most of us dont even have.  I dont know about anyone else but I dont want to have to buy a job.

 

Brenda

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#2 Consumer Comment

Wish that I was never offered an interview

AUTHOR: angrymom - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2012

Brenda consider yourself very luck because Hal Butler (Howard Butler) of Actuary Resouces (AKA Actaurial Innovations) is a scam.  I went in for a so called interview with Howard Butler only to find out that it was not an interview it was for a prep class.  Once I found this information out I started questioning his motives.  He went into this big spill about how one of his students who went through the program was now the professor who was actually teaching the class.  Little did he know that I knew this person and once I started asking questions I got the real truth from the teacher.  There are no jobs through this company I even ask the question how many people have you placed in the past year and Howard Butler wouldn't even answer the question.  He makes his living by promoting a class, which he claims that you will get reimbursed back for once you have been placed through his services but since he doesn't place people in actual jobs he doesn't have to worry about paying any money back. So really this is just about him making a quick buck off of other people, and it seems to be working well for him because he even made the comment that he has been in business for 20 years.  But during those 20 years how many different company names has he used?

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You are half right . . .

AUTHOR: Me112233 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, January 29, 2012

Brenda, I read your statement. First of all, you are actually LUCKY that you didn't get an interview -- there is no job, period. The owner, Hal Butler, is simply trying to sell a useless "review" course. Now, to address some things you said in your statement that were huge red flags. You never call a potential employer and use the "you interviewed Bubba, but you didn't interview me" line. Hal has sucked plenty of women into taking his class (I've been there and seen them). The moment an employer hears you spout off with that sort of crap, they will run from YOU as fast as they can, because all they hear is that a trouble-maker is on the other end of the phone. Moreover, you ought not presume that you have been discriminated against based solely on the fact that you happen to be a member of some sort of "protected" class, whether you are in that class because you are a woman, a black guy, a muslim, or need a wheelchair; or maybe because you are a man applying for a job as a nurse or elementary school teacher. Such a view of life suggests paranoia. I know that discrimination does happen. I've been on the losing end of it myself. That said, most employers are looking for someone that they think will be a good employee that will add more value to the company that what they have to pay you; things like race and gender receive consideration only in light of the broader context of whether those things will somehow impair your ability to do the job and be profitable to the company . . . and when they hear "troublemaker" wants an interview, they hear someone that will be disruptive to the work environment at best, and someone who will file a lawsuit at worst; neither of which makes for a good choice of employee nor is it a benefit to the bottom line. (Surely you recognize that an employer hires you to help his business and make a profit off of your services -- if he pays you $50,000 a year, then the work you are doing has to be worth at least $50,001, or he won't hire you. Lawsuits are extremely expensive for employers, and there is no way that an employee who files a lawsuit can be profitable to the employer.)

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