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Complaint Review: Charlene Wohlhart Real Estate Investors Financial Group - Chicago, Illinois

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  • Charlene Wohlhart Real Estate Investors Financial Group 5230 N Oakview Chicago,, Illinois U.S.A.
  • Phone: 773-444-0411
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  • Category: Loans

Charlene Wohlhart, Real Estate Investors Financial Group, RealEstateInvestorsFinancialGroup.com advance fee fraud, due diligenge fee fraud, loan scam Chicago Illinois

* : Charlene Wohlhart is a scammer - Real Estate Investors Financial Group

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Challenge From Charlene Wohlhart Real Estate Investors Financial Group

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Response to report

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Charlene Wohlhart Commercial Real Estate Financing Advance Fee Fraud

This person, Charlene Wohlhart, runs a website called Real Estate Investors Financial Group. In looking up her phone number, 773-444-0411 we found her address as 5230 N Oakview Chicago, IL 60656. Its an apartment building (as located on Google maps):


So apparently this "so busy I can't call you back for two days" so called "loan broker" has to work out of a small Northside Chicago apartment. Hmmmm. Ok.


Let's delve further:


Now, good ol' Charlene has a "huge" private investor "Anthony" who has billions of dollars (and a good heart) that is willing to provide "Guaranteed Funding" at 5 3/8, no, 6 1/4 percent.


However, there is only "one catch" as she puts it. You have to have a "Standby Letter of Credit from a top 25 bank.


Red Flag. It is RARE that you will ever get a "Standby Letter of Credit" unless you already have practically the equivalent amount in assets to back it up. And if that were the case, you'd would not need a "Standby Letter of Credit" for any private lender for real estate deal. Just trust me. It doesn't work that way.


Ok, don't take my word, just ask the SEC:


http://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/primebank/ howtheywork.shtml


Let's keep going:


Now, after finally getting "Charlene" on the phone, (because she's soooo busy [yes scamming people]) before I can even tell her what I plan to do, she cuts me off to tell me about how this generous Billionaire private lender requires - dun dun dun - a federal level "background check" to ensure that the money is not going to terrorists, the mossad, gangsters, etc. (I almost started laghuing, but I held my tongue).


Now to the good ol' Advance Fee Fraud part. This "mandatory background check will cost you $5000.00 UP FRONT. This is even before you have filled out any loan request documentation or she even knows what you want to do with the loan.


Well, if you don't already know how advance fee fraud works, check it out here:

(((link redacted)))


So anyway.....


The point of this post is to warn people about Charlene Wohlhart and Real Estate Investors Financial Group.


And if you need futher proof that "Charlene" is not exactly a paragon of virtue and trustworthiness, you can also see that she had her real estate license revoked because she apparently writes bad checks and doesn't pay the bad debt according to the Illinois Division of Professional regulation:


"Charlene A. Wohlhart March 12, 2004 The real estate salesperson license was terminated for failure to rectify a dishonored check that was tendered to OBRE."


Here's the link:
(((link redacted)))


Bottom-line lessons:


1. There are no mysterious billionaires (and they are always unknown/mysterious/generous) giving out "Guaranteed Loans"


2. Real lenders, whether private billionaire individuals (he he) or regular banks are NOT going to charge you large application fees or large up-front "due diligence" fees. You know who charges large application/due diligence fees?


Dishonest (and typically unlicensed) "loan brokers". That's who.

3. There is NO SUCH THING as a "GUARANTEED" LOAN. They DO NOT EXIST. Repeat. "GUARANTEED" loans DO NOT EXIST.

Anyone telling you that you are guaranteed to get any loan without credit or collateral (and this goes even with a so-called Standby Letter of Credit) either does NOT know what they are talking about, or is SCAMMING YOU.


I have a real problem with people who use other's desire to make their lives better (by starting a business and looking for financing to run it) to scam them.


It is the lowest of the low to me.

Keywords:

Advance fee fraud, real estate, commercial, loan, lender, private, investor, investment, standby letter of credit, bank, guaranteed, scam, Charlene Wohlhart, Real Estate Investors Financial Group

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Charlene Wohlhart is a scammer - Real Estate Investors Financial Group

AUTHOR: Shoulda - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 18, 2009

I repeat,

1. No LEGITIMATE lender is going to ask you for a "federal-level" background check for $5000. Period. Banks don't even ask for this.

2. Ask "Charlene" for REFERENCES YOU CAN ACTUALLY CALL AND TALK TO and WHO HAVE ACTUALLY CLOSED LOANS and ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE PROOF.

There should be AT LEAST 4 references with PHONE NUMBERS and EMAIL ADDRESSES, who can explain specifically how the got their "Standby Letter of Credit" from, who obtained it for them and details on how the deal worked.

THAT is the point of references. If they cannon/do not provide that information, the " "references" are FAKE and you are being SCAMMED.

3. If the "broker" has a true relationship with the lender/"billionaire investor" they will be protected if you speak to that lender/"billionaire investor".

If said broker gives you all sorts of reasons why you cannot talk to the lender/"billionaire investor" BEFORE you pay anything, RUN, NOT WALK AWAY.

Charlene Wohlhart is either dumb or a fraud (probably both) Give her, or her "investor" fees at your own risk.

You now know and have been warned.

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Challenge From Charlene Wohlhart Real Estate Investors Financial Group

AUTHOR: Charlene - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 04, 2009

In addition to my previous post, I request that ANY investor that has found my company and or myself to be less than professional and has been told that they MUST PAY a due diligence fee to me, or HAVE PAID a due diligence fee to any lender that I have referred them to and not gotten funding, please post your experience here, that can be verified with concrete PROOF of such an unscrupulous transaction.

To those reading this, let me repeat, I DO NOT charge due diligence fees. Lenders, and Private Investors often do, but those fees are NOT and NEVER are paid to me, but rather directly to the lending source.

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AUTHOR: Charlene - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 04, 2009

I am a commercial mortgage broker, this is true. I do NOT charge due diligence fees to any client. In fact the opposite can be said. On Oct 17,2008, I reported the broker that I was employed by to the FBI, because he in fact had been collecting due diligience fees. I have several references, that can attest to my business model.

With Capital and Secondary Markets basically gone, and semi private lenders stalling on funding requests, I have turned to a private investor, or private money for funding needs.

While, he does in fact charge a due diligence fee, I have no part of it.

The poster has no concept of the funding program that is being offered.

This poster has posted this in a malicious effort to discredit myself and my company.

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