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Complaint Review: Christian Angeles, Raymond Nieves, Ronmar Gaudiel - Iloilo

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  • Christian Angeles, Raymond Nieves, Ronmar Gaudiel Iloilo, Philippines

Christian Angeles, Raymond Nieves, Ronmar Gaudiel, Chris Angeles, Emmanuel Cornerstone, Ikky Gaudiel, Chris Jay Guevarra Beware Scammer from the Philippines Iloilo Philippines

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: ONCE AND FOR ALL

*Author of original report: Response to Raymond Nieves

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*REBUTTAL Individual responds: False

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Do not trust these scammers from the Philippines-  Christian Angeles AKA Chris Angeles, Chris Jay Guevarra;  Raymond Nieves from Miagao Ilo-ilo aka Emmanuel Cornerstone and Ronmar Gaudiel aka Ikky Gaudiel aka Ronnie Lapascua.

Christian Angeles posted an Ad in Craigslist Philippines searching for an investor for a Call Center operations in July 2015.  I am an investor based in the US and I spoke with him and he explained that he had several campaigns lined up and what he needed is an investor to setup a call center that can accommodate 20-30 agents.  I agreed to fund his operations.  He set up operations in a province in the Philippines- Miagao Iloilo.  He has a partner based in that location - Raymond Nieves ( he also uses a skype name of Emmanuel Cornerstone).

My initial funding was used to find an office space, equipment, computers, headsets, etc to set up the call center.  Agents were hired and were supposedly trained for the campaigns.  There were beginning indications that these people could not be trusted.  Office location rented was different from what I was told.  It was more expensive than budgeted.  Receipts for expenses were incomplete, some were out of date and the others fabricated.  I had a bad feeling that the call center was not being managed right because campaigns never lasted longer than 2 weeks and there were disgruntled customers not happy with the performance of the agents.

There was an incident when Chris Angeles vanished for more than a week with no communications whatsoever and the center was in limbo.  After more than a week he finally surfaced and gives me the story that he was distressed and lost it when his grandmother passed away suddenly and he had to fly back to Manila.  In hindsight, this should have been a big red alert for me that something was not right with these operators.  I gave them a second chance and continued to fund the operations.  There were some sputtering campaigns that never lasted more than 2 weeks and many of the customers ended up not paying.

Sensing that the center was going to shut down soon due to its huge unprofitability, this is where these perpetrators hatched a scam that got me-  Chris Angeles tells me we got a campaign from a US company that would pay us a handsome amount and would require 10-20 agents.  This would solve our financial problems.  I listened in to conference calls with the client, I reviewed the proposal and contract from the client and even had video conference calls from their representatives from Manila.  Of course all of this turned out to be fraudulent and was orchestrated by Chris Angeles, Raymond Nieves, Ronmar Gaudiel and others that were part of the fraud.  The pitch was that for us to get this campaign, I need to send Chris and a trainer to Manila for training and contract signing.  I needed to buy and upgrade our equipment to make sure call clarity was the best.  I also needed to pay for VOIP services to ensure best connections.  Unfortunately, I was duped and paid for all these.  Trainers from Manila supposedly had to go to our location in the province of Iloilo to inspect the site and interview the agents.  Again, I had to pay to entertain the trainers and make sure they were welcomed.  I even had a video conference call with the Manila trainers representing the US company. I was informed that everything looked good and that we would start the customer retentions campaign soon.  Weeks passed and nothing happened. At first technical issues with routing calls to us were to blame.  But after several weeks have passed, I called the US company they pretended to represent and lo and behold, they have no operations in the Philippines. The Manila representative using a name of Ronnie Lapascua turns out to be an agent working for the call center and was used to fool me into thinking he was representing the US company and that we got the contract.  Ronnie Lapascua is a fabricated name and character and this person is actually Ronmar Gaudiel or Ikky Gaudiel from his Facebook name.  He was the actor on our video conference call together with Raymond Nieves and Chris Angeles.

Chris Angeles had the nerve to ask for more money from me so we can go after the fictitious "Ronnie Lapascua" and collect some of the money we paid him.  After much investigation, I finally discovered that this was an orchestrated scam involving a lot of people.  There were others involved in the call center but these three individuals are the main culprit.  The call center has been shut down.  It was an expensive lesson from a team of scammers.

Please be informed that they do not represent Global Bizcom Solutions or GBCS Call center.  They have been terminated.  Do not do business or trust these people.   

 

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

ONCE AND FOR ALL

AUTHOR: emmanuel cornerstone - (Philippines)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 03, 2016

To start, I want to say that all I want is to put up a company to help myself, my family, my employees and their families, and the company in general.

Just to give hindsight of the supposed involvement of Chris with my company, I want to recall that there was a time when EMS was experiencing hard time generating revenue. It was so worrisome that when Chris got in the picture, I found rescue from him that could salvage EMS.

I just want to clarify that before Chris introduced you as his investor, my company had already acquired computers and other operational equipment. So, talking about the money you sent to procure these things, I have to say that you were sending the money directly to Chris. All I have to do was live and spend within the amount that was given to me by Chris. I have some of the documents that would tell you that it was Chris to whom you send your money not to me. I can even post the receipts here to give light to the issue.

I could strongly say that I was not an employee of GBCS because I never did submit any document that directly expressed my intention to apply for any position. All the necessary permits were under my name and we never had any signed agreement that would indicate any connection between us. It was Chris who was your direct contact. The operations were entirely under his control. So it’s just logical that you direct your queries to him about the things that had happened with your transactions with him.

After all, the damage has already been done not only to you but also to me. No investor or businessman has in his mind to wish or do something bad to what he has put up through hard work and dedication. To tell you honestly, a lot of complaints have already been hurled against me. I am facing all these alone since Chris abandoned me and the company. I am paying up to this day all the unsettled debts and financial obligations of GBCS to its previous employees and business entities to whom the company had made previous transactions.

Our exchange of arguments here could no longer save us from the damage and loss that had been inflicted to us by the incident that neither of us had expected nor wished to happen. Our names had been dragged in this very unfortunate situation and this is terribly affecting me, my family and my work. However, we can still do something to prevent further damage to our personal lives. If it sounds okay with you, we can work and help each other to go after Chris – NO MONEY INVOLVED. You have lost a big investment and same is true with me. I have lost money, and worse is, I also lost some of my good friends and dependable workmates. Moving forward, I just want to say that I never wanted to deceive you. As I have said, I just wanted to make my company work to help my family and my people.

We are both victims. We were both deceived. The mishaps have taught us a lot to be better. Helping each other could move us forward.

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POSTED: Sunday, November 22, 2015

Here are specific facts pointing to the involvement of Raymond Nieves in deceiving and defrauding me.

1.  The 29 Prime campaign is a fabricated project intended to extract more money from me.  Chris Angeles and Ronmar Gaudiel are the main fraudsters in this scam but you were involved in covering up and perpretrating this falsehood.  29 Prime based in California have confirmed that this is a scam.  Ronnie Lapascua who pretended to represent 29 Prime based in Manila is actually a Miagao resident hired as a training manager for Global Bizcom.  His real name is Ronmar Gaudiel. You knew this all along and when we had a video conference call with the staff regarding Ronnie's visit to the training center, this was a big scam to defraud me and ask for more money for fake VOIP, equipment, entertainment expenses, etc. You were part of the video conference call when the fake Ronnie Lapascua pretended to train, interview and give high praises to our center in Miagao.  The service contract that was sent to me is another fraudulent document.  I have this fraudulent document in my records.  There is no real contract between our center and 29 Prime.  When I inquired why the campaign never pushed through after several weeks, in a video conference call with you and Chris, you continue to be an accomplice in covering up this fraud.  Chris even stated that you sent Ronnie several emails lambasting him for non performance.  When I requested you to send me these emails, you were never able to produce any.  

2.  When I asked to speak with the landlord regarding the rent delinquency, you lied and gave me a fake phone number for the landlord and even texted me that he wanted to speak with me.  I have all of these documented.  I have spoken with the real landlord- Mr Paguntalan and he is shocked that you claimed that you spoke with him.  The fake landlord that I initially spoke with over the phone was a young kid and was unsure of himself.  When you asked me to call him again, he was asking me for money.  I have documentation of the fake phone number you texted me for the landlord and your text saying he wants to talk to me.  The real Mr Paguntalan confirmed that this is a fraud you concocted.

3.  You and Chris were never authorized to rent the building of the Paguntalans.  This was not the location we agreed upon and this was over the budget we discussed.  You just surprised me with the news that this location was rented a few weeks after you moved in.  You state that you are not an employee of Global Bizcom Solutions (GBCS) yet you signed the lease agreement as the manager/owner of the company?  Another pattern of inconsistency.

4.  The 20 desktop computers I paid for and you were in charge of procuring is not fully accounted for.  The landlord states that they only see 14 computers in the office.

5.  You indicated that you are not aware of the income and expenses of the company.  I have documentation that you have confirmed receipt of the accounting expenses and all money I sent Chris for the company.  You and Bebeth Nonalaida are aware of our accounting records.

6.  The expense receipts you have provided me when we were setting up the center included receipts dated even before the center was operational.  

 

7.  You indicated that I should have something in writing to state my expectations for the business especially that I do not personally know the people I am doing business with.  On July 20,2015 I sent all of you my expectations letter and number one on the list is Transparency and Truthfulness.  It is obvious this was not heeded.

8.  You state that how could this be a scam if there was income being received from the initial campaigns.  I stated that this business venture started as a legitimate enterprise but as all campaigns were fledgeling and clients not paying, this is where the deceipt to extract more money from me from a phantom campaign was hatched.

9.  You stated-  "Why drag my name in the hocus pocus that Chris orchestrated?"  These specific facts and actions I have pointed out clearly show your complicity in defrauding me.

As an investor, I am aware that some business ventures will succeed and others fail.  I have no problems with our call center failing if everyone tried their honest best to make it work out.  As an investor, this is a risk I take.  What is not acceptable is when people lie, defraud and cheat.  

 

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AUTHOR: Emmanuel Cornerstone - (Philippines)

POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2015

This is a reply to the malicious article posted on November 6, 2015 in this site by someone who lacks full knowledge and understanding of the entire circumstance. To avoid further damage on my name, I will answer all  the allegations squarely.

                First, the negotiation you had was between you and Christian Angeles aka Chris. I already had my own site, EMS, set up in Miagao before you and Chris got in the picture. Chris and I had a talk and out of it, we agreed that we will have a joint venture between EMS and GBCS to start BPO operations. He advised me that he already had you in his team to finance the operations, which was supposedly based in Manila, but Chris proposed to put up the center in Miagao instead. I agreed mainly because of its merits. All the transactions you had were solely your agreement with Chris not with me. All the decisions involving the center were Chris’ calling from the agents to man the campaign to the site to rent to house the operations. As a matter of fact, there were instances that I was excluded in the process of selecting the campaigns, making financial projections, and budgeting the money you were sending. The worst thing was I didn’t had the exact information on how much you sent for the center. Chris would only give me certain amount to be used for agent’s salary and other pertinent expenditures. At times, I was even forced to use my own money just to make sure that agents would return to make the campaigns work and for the company to survive.

                The next point I want to make is that all the payments of our clients were directly sent to you through your Paypal account. This left me wondering how could this be a scam, where in fact you were receiving certain amount which directly came from the clients. If it were a scam, you could have not received even a centavo.

                I should not be directly hit by your allegations since as your article would picture out, all of those were directly pinpointing to the discussions and agreement you had with Chris. There were times that I asked for the details of the investment you were giving to the center through Chris, but you refused to give me because as you have said your partner is Chris. We did not have open line communication. It was Chris whom you talk constantly and made business with.

I was not an employee of GBCS. You were not my boss. I was not the one who transacted business with you. So, why put the blame on me? Why drag my name in the hocus pocus that Chris orchestrated?

                The next point I want to clarify is regarding the campaign and training which made you spent too much. Just like you, I was only informed by Chris right at the nick of time. Chris decided for it and he was the one who requested for budget to be used for the training in Manila. So to say, everything that stemmed out from it was Chris’ decision. He should be the one you are supposed to talk to.

                The last point I want to make is, I think when you do business with certain people that you don’t know personally, you have to make formal agreements to circumvent complications in the future and to avoid damaging other people’s name and reputation. I’ m also a victim of this unfortunate incident. My name is now drowning in the negative feedbacks that I have received, and the call center I put up painstakingly is now severely damaged. Some of the employees have already filed complaints in the labor department against me, not against you, not against Chris. Please stop spreading unfounded speculations.

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AUTHOR: Emmanuel Cornerstone - (Philippines)

POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2015

This is a reply to the malicious article posted on November 6, 2015 in this site by someone who lacks full knowledge and understanding of the entire circumstance. To avoid further damage on my name, I will answer all  the allegations squarely.

                First, the negotiation you had was between you and Christian Angeles aka Chris. I already had my own site, EMS, set up in Miagao before you and Chris got in the picture. Chris and I had a talk and out of it, we agreed that we will have a joint venture between EMS and GBCS to start BPO operations. He advised me that he already had you in his team to finance the operations, which was supposedly based in Manila, but Chris proposed to put up the center in Miagao instead. I agreed mainly because of its merits. All the transactions you had were solely your agreement with Chris not with me. All the decisions involving the center were Chris’ calling from the agents to man the campaign to the site to rent to house the operations. As a matter of fact, there were instances that I was excluded in the process of selecting the campaigns, making financial projections, and budgeting the money you were sending. The worst thing was I didn’t had the exact information on how much you sent for the center. Chris would only give me certain amount to be used for agent’s salary and other pertinent expenditures. At times, I was even forced to use my own money just to make sure that agents would return to make the campaigns work and for the company to survive.

                The next point I want to make is that all the payments of our clients were directly sent to you through your Paypal account. This left me wondering how could this be a scam, where in fact you were receiving certain amount which directly came from the clients. If it were a scam, you could have not received even a centavo.

                I should not be directly hit by your allegations since as your article would picture out, all of those were directly pinpointing to the discussions and agreement you had with Chris. There were times that I asked for the details of the investment you were giving to the center through Chris, but you refused to give me because as you have said your partner is Chris. We did not have open line communication. It was Chris whom you talk constantly and made business with.

I was not an employee of GBCS. You were not my boss. I was not the one who transacted business with you. So, why put the blame on me? Why drag my name in the hocus pocus that Chris orchestrated?

                The next point I want to clarify is regarding the campaign and training which made you spent too much. Just like you, I was only informed by Chris right at the nick of time. Chris decided for it and he was the one who requested for budget to be used for the training in Manila. So to say, everything that stemmed out from it was Chris’ decision. He should be the one you are supposed to talk to.

                The last point I want to make is, I think when you do business with certain people that you don’t know personally, you have to make formal agreements to circumvent complications in the future and to avoid damaging other people’s name and reputation. I’ m also a victim of this unfortunate incident. My name is now drowning in the negative feedbacks that I have received, and the call center I put up painstakingly is now severely damaged. Some of the employees have already filed complaints in the labor department against me, not against you, not against Chris. Please stop spreading unfounded speculations.

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