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Complaint Review: Dayton Toyota - South Brunswick New Jersey

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  • Dayton Toyota 2291 US Highway 130 South Brunswick, New Jersey United States of America

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When I receive the e-mail which looked like it was from the dealership, inviting me to interview for a sales job at Dayton Toyota, I was excited.  I replied to the e-mail and set up my interview day and time.

When I arrived I met my interviewer, Bob Stevens.  He was pleasant and energetic and seemed to like me.  He said that he was not employed by the dealership, but that he was paid by the owner to recruit and train his sales staff.  The "interview" went well, he said I would do very well here, and he invited me to attend a couple of training sessions on the following two days so I could "make sure it was for me".  If it was, I would be making $400 per week plus commisions for 4 weeks of on site training while selling, then after 4 weeks my salary drops to $210/week plus commisions.  I was excited to be in a new job.

I arrived the next morning pretty excited about my new gig.  But as I watched the others file into the conference room for training, something was fishy.  First of all, there was about a dozen of us.  The dealership looked like it had only about 6 sales people downstairs and it didn't seem logical that they would be hiring 12 more sales people.  Also, not to be mean but there were a couple of people that did not look like they were cut out for automobile sales, particularly because they hardly spoke any English or spoke it very poorly.  This is not a heavily-weighted ethnic area.  One of the guys was from Nigeria.  Another was from Panama.  There was a single mother about 25 years old.  There was a poorly dressed old guy.  We looked like the Delta House plege recruits in "Animal House".  I put it out of my mind and prepared for my training.

It was during the noon break at the first session that the scam reared its ugly head.  Bob pulled us into the hallway individually for a few moments to let us know how we were doing.  He said I was very good and that he would be recommending me highly to ownership for the job.  I was a bit floored because I was led to believe that I already had the job.  It was then he informed me that I would have to pay a $350 fee for the training session. I asked why I had to pay for the training session if the company was going to pay ME $400/week for 4 weeks while I was in training anyway.  He explained that it was for him and that he was leaving on Friday.  I was incredulous.  I asked him if I paid the fee, did that mean that I had the job?  He skirted around the question by responding "you have nothing to worry about".

I pressed him on it and asked him if I would be offered the job by management before I had to pay the fee.  He repeated that I "had nothing to worry about".  I asked him how many people they were looking to hire.  He said about 5.  At this point I realized that Bob could not be trusted.  There was no way this place was taking on 5 more sales reps, and besides, if they wanted 5 why were there 12 of us there?  I aksed him, "What about the other 7 people in there who don't get the job?  Are they out $350?"  He replied AGAIN "you have nothing to worry about.  Besides, a few of them will wash out when their drug tests come back because they're probably smoking weed.  Then a few more will bounce out because their background check will turn up a DUI.  You have nothing to worry about."

Well Bob, I DO have something to worry about.  You never pay for your own placement and/or training.  That's rule #1 when you accept employment anywhere so my scam radar was clicking like a geigercounter and the red flags were flying at full mast everywhere like I was at a regatta.

Secondly, I didn't reply to the original e-mail because I wanted to know where I could get auto sales training for $350.  I replied because I was told that there was a job opening I could interview for and I interviewed for it.  Then I was led to believe that I was hired by the dealership and was to begin my training, only to find out that I was not in fact hired for anything and that I would OWE $350 on Friday.

I can't believe that Dayton Toyota or any other car dealership would jeapardize its reputation by being an accomplice in this scam.  Preying on vulnerable people who are looking for a job by luring them in for an "interview" and passing them on to "training" and then banging them for a quick $350 is reprehensibly dishonest at the very least and probably fraudulent, although I am not an attorney.

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#3 Consumer Comment

HAMMER, ANY COMPANY THAT CHARGES A FEE FOR POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, March 06, 2011

to sit through a 'training class' is a company that believes in scamming people. Most Toyota dealerships in the USA are scamming customers every day. Toyota corporation knows this, but they promote it because all they're interested in is sales. They do not necessarily care how the sales take place. They only care about moving units and making profits.

My guess is that over 90% of all the Toyota dealerships in the USA are scamming their customers in one way or another on a daily basis. Even many educated buyers are scammed. The BIG problem is with the owner/operators of most Toyota dealerships. Many of the mangers that are employed at these Toyota dealerships believe in trickery, deception, and manipulation, when selling cars.  It's the 'Toyota way' to sell vehicles in the USA.

WELCOME TO TOYOTA- OUR VEHICLES ARE DEFECTIVE, JUST LIKE OUR COMPANY AND MOST OF OUR DEALER NETWORK IN THE USA

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#2 Consumer Comment

Nervous Nellie

AUTHOR: FD - (USA)

POSTED: Sunday, March 06, 2011

This "applicant" might have been a nervous nellie and should of seen it through all the way to the end to know the "full" story.  The dealer(s) are actually the ones paying the recruiting company "AutoMax".  How they do this is they have the employee front the money and then give it back to them in 90 days.  See, if the dealer paid the recruiter upfront then
there would be no reason for the employee to "stick it out" through the first couple of weeks when it is the toughest.  I was hired this way with having a monetary investment in my future success.  I called it "tough love".  Dangling that $500
dollar carrot in front of my nose for the first couple of months to keep me from wanting to quit.  This is not a get rich quick job and my first 3 weeks in the biz I hadn't sold a car and wanted to quit but stuck it out to get my $500 back and the rest
was history.  I've made over a million dollars selling cars and I never would have of if it wasn't done this way (which has been going on in the car biz for over 40 years).  If the dealer pays upfront and someone quits in the first week or two, then what did the dealer get out of it? 
If someone pays the $500, stays 90 days and then gets it back, then what are they out?  Nothing!  You are not paying to get a job and you are not paying for training.  The dealer is, just 90 days later back to you.  What you are doing is showing your loyalty to the business that you are fronting the dealers money for the recruiting, advertising, interviewing, training, and placement.  If you would of paid your $500 and stuck it out you would have found out that even if the "host" dealer
didn't hire you that the recruiter/trainer would have gotten you a job at a different dealer with all of the same stipulations.  Why should a dealer take the risk that you might "flake out" on them after they paid thousands of dollars for the newspaper ads, online ads, recruiters expenses, etc. to have you quit on them because you aren't selling 10 cars your first week in the biz and then they have to rerun all of the ads all over again to do it again?!  They would rather have these job
fairs once a year instead of every couple of weeks because they are very expensive and they want the "committed" person working for them.  If they are going to pay for your drivers license test, drug test, background check, sales license, uniforms, etc. then they want you to stay because it really isn't fair for them to give you a chance when you have no experience.  So many people say that they are a "man of their word" only to quit, the way to prove it is that money
talks.  Put yourself in the dealers shoes and realize why this is the only effective way to insure that they retain their employees, basically an "insurance retainer" that you will still be working there, plus what if another dealer see's the ad and sends their sales staff there for free training?  Since the bottom line is that you get all of your money back as long as you don't "flake out" on them, then essentially it is COSTING YOU NOTHING!!  NOT A CENT!!  Shame that you didn't see it
through to the end and got a job at one of the dealerships and made the money that I and my co-workers have made in a great industry and easy job.  FD

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#1 Consumer Comment

HAMMER, STAY AT THIS SITE AND TYPE IN 266476 AND READ THAT RIPOFF REPORT.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, November 18, 2010

then type in 490065 and read that Ripoff Report also.


Thank You

P.S. You can read "SCAMERICA POEM" at this site.
Just type in 502469 and it appears as 'Consumer Comment #49'.


WELCOME TO THE TOYOTA DEALERSHIPS IN AMERICA- ONE BIG SCAM
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