Complaint Review: Denali Executives Inc. - Indianapolis Indiana
- Denali Executives Inc. 1099 N. Meridian St Suite 111 Indianapolis, 46204 Indianapolis, Indiana USA
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- Web: http://www.denaliexecutives.com
- Category: Door to Door Sales
Denali Executives Inc., Bold Marketing Strategies, Boardwalk Consulting Inc. Pyramid Scheme, Scam Indianapolis Indiana
*UPDATE Employee ..inside information: 2000 a week??
*Consumer Comment: Opportunity???
*Consumer Comment: Not scam, but severe lack of ethics, education, experience, and character
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Con artists
*Consumer Comment: The truth
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Former employee - outstanding management opportunity
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Inside Review on Denali Executives
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Denali Executives - Upstanding Company
*Consumer Comment: Thank You!
*Author of original report: I forgot one thing
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I am writing as a concerned parent. My son used to work for a company called Bold Marketing Strategies where he did door to door sales. He ended up quitting because he worked 6 days a week and usually more than 10 hours a day while only making $250 a week. Irregardless, throughout his time with the company he was convinced that he would one day have a "six figure salary." Every time he considered quitting, his boss somehow convinced him to keep working. Every time I tried talking with him about the job, he would say "dad you just don't understand" and "I will make you a beleiver, you'll see." He was even convinced to move into a house with 7 of his coworkers before eventually running out of money.
Once he finally left, I thought all of this was over and I tried to forget about it. This was all until a coworker of mine said his son had interviewed with and was excited about an opportunity with Denali Executives Inc. From what he told me, everything sounded very similar to my son's experience. So, I did some research. As it turns out it is the EXACT SAME COMPANY. They just changed their name. In fact, they have changed their name from Bold Marketing Strategies to Boardwalk Consulting to Denali Executives in under a year. Additionally, they are a Cydor company -- which is notorious for abusing employees and making promises they cannot keep.
If you know of anyone who is applying for a job here TELL THEM TO RUN. It is a cult-like atmosphere and a terrible opportunity. You will not make more than $5 an hour and their promises of riches will never come. Be careful for companied associtated with Glenn Cunningham and Ashley Smith. They have been in charge of each company and will surely change their name again once to hide from all of this.
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#10 UPDATE Employee ..inside information
2000 a week??
AUTHOR: anon indy 45 - ()
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2014
As much as I do believe that this company is not necessarily a pyramid scheme... it isn't worth the rediculous time you must put in for this company. Number one, your work day starts at ten am as a leader and you are pretty much required to be there around that time or face being looked down upon. Even if you make 117 a day when you factor in a twelve hour work day that's not that much money. And it's very hard work. You do have to go bother people in the comfort of their own home. 98 percent of them are Rude or aweful... and they will threaten you to get away from them. I personally think that the work hours are a little rediculous, and you are required to attend after work events as well on Thursdays. It is a mandatory thing or you pretty much get fired. The better you start doing in this company the more and more you will have to sacrifice with your personal life. If you hit leadership standards, which is 500 dollars in a week, you are also forced to go out drinking for another leaders event on mondays. Your team may end up meeting on another night as well. You will also have leaders calling you on sundays... which is your only day off. Beau masters is a liar, as I've been with denali for quite a while now and don't think anyone has made that much in six days since I've started. When it comes to the interview process, leaders are personally pushed to make sure that interviews see them making money or they don't get to interview people again. A false front is put up to all of those that interview with denali, and I don't think I've ever seen an applicant actually be turned away. People in this company truly do quit left and right. And quite frankly I don't blame them.
Another side to this to is that they tell you that you can grow with the company. We have standards we are required to hit to even be able to interview. Everything is based on a ten day rolling trend. In order to interview you have to sell 7 out of ten days on the trend and sell two apps in five of those days to even be considered. Most of the people in the office that are interviewing are far better than that. Imagine how long it would take to even get the opportunity to interview when those people are multiapping nine out of those ten days? Almost impossible. In order to advance you must build your team. In order to build your team you must interview, and then figure out how to keep them around assuming you actually get an interview. This is all nothing but a game. You are driving on average an hour a day, so be prepared to burn some gas in your car as well. All in all, I wouldn't advise anyone to join this company, because it's truly horrible work. That's the honest truth.

#9 Consumer Comment
Opportunity???
AUTHOR: Giselle - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 20, 2014
I laughed out loud at the knuckleheads who called this a great opportunity? What is so great about being mislead to get you to interview, lied to, and pestering the heck out of people who aren't happy to see you, going door to door? What a degrading, pitiful thing. As far as the "opportunity", these crappy 100 percent commission jobs are a dime a dozen! ANYONE can get one, provided they can stand upright.

#8 Consumer Comment
Not scam, but severe lack of ethics, education, experience, and character
AUTHOR: IndyBoiler - ()
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 21, 2014
As someone looking to relocate to the Indy area for a time, I made the mistake of accepting an all-to-eager invitation to interview with Glenn and Ashley. I graduated from Purdue University (Ashley D. Smith putting Boilermakers to shame) and worked in a much bigger city than Indianapolis for several years.
Upon looking at their website, which was Boardwalk Consulting at the time, I realized it actually told me absolutely nothing about the company. It is filled with the utmost generic junk to make it appear as if they put together a real website. My first thought was "why don't I see a Graphic Design/Web Developer position?" That is because this is not a company with structure. They have 2 people who think they can handle things they are not qualified for (recruitment, training, selection, administration, managing, benefits, corporate structure, the list goes on.) You will see right through it. It is also very similar to the Denali Executives website, as well as Bold Marketing.
An exerpt from Denali Executives: "We at Denali Executives Inc, are experts in sales and marketing. The strategy is simple, provide clients with new innovative ways to reach their client base without the use of telemarketing, billboards, signs, or commercials, which are all very passive approaches and provide only minimal results." Ask Apple and Google how minimal their results are from those campaigns. Their site(s) also says nothing about their culture, beliefs, mission statement, or even current employees.
After the first "interview", which was less intrusive than shaking a hand at a networking event, Ashley asked me questions not relevent to any educational or working experience. She ended with an "It was a pleasure to meet you. I will be in contact shortly" after less than 10 minutes of arbitrary questions. I made it clear I did not live in the area and the second interview would be difficult to schedule. She was aware I was in town for the weekend, and less than an hour after I walked out the door, I was asked to interview #2 the following day. Ashley stated the 2nd interview would take 6 hours and there would be OTJ (Glenn: on-the-job) training. My curiousity got the best of me.
Glenn sat down others and myself first thing at the interview and gave the absolute worst summary of marketing and sales, misusing what he labeled as facts and definitions. I had to stifle laughter while making eye contact. Glenn says in his Ripoff Report rebuttle that this is NOT a door to door campaign. My 2nd interview experience disagrees entirely. While he never said "we will be taking you door-to-door today", you know before you leave the office with a representative or 2 that they will be taking you around in a vehicle performing "direct sales", more commonly known as peddling. The homeowners are not expecting anyone representing AT&T. It is absolutely cold door-to-door sales.
The 2 representatives asked questions while we drove half an hour to a neighborhood. They had a list with houses in that neighborhood that already have AT&T U-Verse, and AT&T claims all of the houses that do not are special leads, indicating they have already tried to market them with some form of success (clearly not, or they would be signed up.) So you will knock on most houses' doors in a neighborhood in your formal interview attire regardless of the weather conditions trying to convince the homeowner (again, if AT&T already contacted them) that their cable/internet is not good enough. You will put on an AT&T branded hat or polo shirt and bother people in the comfort of their own home. Or be threatened. Or have the police called on you.
Simply type "AT&T door-to-door" into any major search engine and do your own research.
Ashley directly told me one of the representative's who took me out was the best worker they had, but was not ready for management. When I asked how long he had been there, she replied "almost 2 years." Their best door-to-door salesman has been in his position for 2 years with no signs of growth. Their growth claims are fraudulent, but you knew that because they have unrealistic growth claims.
Mr. Cunningham, while Bold Marketing may not have been "your" company, Ashley Smith is listed as Denali's current "manager" and Bold's current "president." Both sites are currently live. On "your" Denali site (which is very amateur. It really does not cost a lot to hire a professional to design a functional and aesthic area to showcase to your employers, employees, and prospective clients), you have several of the same photos as Bold Marketing (See: Previous website development comment). You also currently share the exact same phone number, (317) 822-5950. I do not believe that was ill-research. Prime example of not only the company's, but also Glenn and Ashley's, character. If direct lying does not work, they will short you on information.
I would also like to point out that almost anyone outside of your management team is qualified to answer many of those questions you posted correctly. You say your company is growing. Are these numbers public? No? Oh. I like how you use lamens terms regarding marketing and refer to almost everything as old-school as if you are putting it down. You then say peddling[sic] is what you do, and is the oldest form of marketing.
According to Denali, you cross-train your employees in "sales and marketing to coaching, mentoring, training, team development, HR, administration, business finance, company branding and entrepreneurship?" Who at or below your command is qualified to do so? What are their qualifications? What programs do you have in place to ensure this is done correctly and for all? You freqently mention your "company" works for several Fortune (it is a proper noun, therefore capitalized) 500 companies. Any others you care to mention or is it really only AT&T? Also, sir, your bowtie is tied incorrectly.
My interview was quite some time ago now, yet no one on your management team has changed. This seems to contradict both website's claims. Denali says, "we will be filling several management positions within the year" since it was created. It is January, and the structure remains the same. Bold says this: "Within less than a year, our trainees are full-fledged managers." Most people know that reputable companies can not make such promises. Do not ever trust someone who says 100% ROI, especially if he has to spell out what the acronym stands for directly after.
If you are educated and hardworking, you will quickly see through the deceit. If you are not, work at one of these companies for a week. I am sure the turnover irritates them. These pop-up shops are all over the country doing the dirty work for real companies, and provide no benefit to Central Indiana at all. Even if this is not directly a scheme or a scam, they are deceitful and not someone anyone credible would ever waste their time with.

#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Con artists
AUTHOR: Denali Whistleblower - ()
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 12, 2014
Could it be anymore obvious that the only positive things placed in this discussion are by the con artists that run these "companies"
I am writing this as someone that actually went on a job interview with the company "Bold Marketing" and has worked with other door to door pyramid schemes. Yes let me repeat that, this company is a DOOR TO DOOR PYRAMID SCHEME!
This is how the company works:
There is no real opportunity. The company consists of a "president" and a "team leader" This "president" will conduct an initial interview where they will be as vague as humanly possible about what the job is (I wonder why). Then they will set you up with a "second interview." This second interview is you going door to door harassing people from the comfort of their own homes. The commission you recieve will be 1/3 of what the company makes. The other two thirds goes to the team leader and president. The president does nothing but sit in the office all day making empty promises about career opportunities within the company knowing full well that the average person only works for the company for one day (just long enough for the potential employee to find out it's a door to door scheme), but not before the company takes two thirds of the money that you worked for. The place is a revolving door of employees. And that's how the business model works.
If the company is on the up and up why do they constantly chance their name? Seems odd doesn't it? Keep Changing your name and I'll keep finding you and the second hit on google for your company will always be ripoffreport.com. Good luck, you'll need it.
PS
Get a real job you lowlife pieces of garbage.

#6 Consumer Comment
The truth
AUTHOR: BCDJ01 - ()
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
So there have been a lot of accusations thrown around about these types of companies, and neither the people who like it, or dont like it will tell you the truth. First of all it is a entry level sales job, that is exactly what it is. They will hire just about anyone as long as you dress professional in the interview, and can complete a sentence. Sure it is not a pyramid scheme, but really...it is. It is a multi level marketing business. This is a proven success for fortune companies like ATT&T. It really does bring the numbers up for them, but is it the job for you! I interviewed with a company just like Denali, now granted Denali may be ran a little different but I doubt it. It was a company by the name of The Merl Group. Basically, ATT&T will send these leads to the company, and the manager of the company will pass these out to sales associates. These associates will go door to door and try to upsell what the customer already has, or try to get them to switch from Comcast to ATT&T.
The associate uses their car, their gas, and their cell phone to call the orders in. My interview went as such. I emailed my resume in, got a call that same afternoon. Set up an interview for the following day. I lived 3 hours away, but my wife and I were planning on moving to Indianapolis later that month. I drove down for the interview and was told to dress professional. I showed up in a suite and interviewed with the main manager. The questions where a little generic, and when I asked about the position he answered as vague as possible. Probably because he didnt want me to know it was door to door sales. He asked me to come back next week for the 2nd interview, and I asked if we could do it tomorrow as I lived 3 hours away. He agreed and asked me to be back at noon the following day. I showed up at noon and sat in the lobby listening to a bunch of cheering going on in another room for at least 30 minutes. Once they where done he asked me, "oh you here already, I thought I said 12:30." In reality he just wanted me to hear all the cheering. So, he paired me with a sales associate and we we left in his car. Once we arrived in a neighborhood I knew what this was all about. We went door to door, and I think he made around $117 that day. I asked if that was normal, and he said about $700/week is what he averaged, with some weeks reaching $1000. The money was OK for entry level work, but like I said, his gas, his car, his phone, ect...
At lunch we discussed how to move up in the company, and that’s where it got discouraging. It is a multi level marketing system, meaning you have to get X number employees below you that sell a certain amount, for a certain amount of weeks then you move up. Once they get X number of employees below them, that make certain amount of money, they move up, and you move up. Once you reach the top, you get to open a new location in any city you want to open one up. This is where they tell you, it prepares you for running your own business. I think the number of employees is 5, so I asked him how long he has been with the company and how many are under him now. He said he has been with the company for 9 months, and I would be number 2. People quit all the time because they realize what it is. I understand its not really a pyramid scheme...but really......it is.
Now that being said, it is a job, and you will get paid. It just wasnt a job for me, and im sure not for everyone.
It is straight commission, and they use high pressure sales techniques. Like any sales job, you have to be able to handle being told no a lot. I am in sales now, and I never get the negative reaction I did when we went door to door. They open with lines such as, “has anyone been by to tell you about the new lines ran for ATT&T.” Then they go into a speech about trying to switch, and how ATT&T is so much better than what you have now. I get them coming to my door now all the time, and I always turn the tables on them. I actually handed out my business card to one of them once. You cant try and be high pressure with a guy like me who knows all about it… If you need a job, and your ok with door to door, then you would be fine here. You have to be able to sell to make money, and it will take a long time to move up.
Now maybe Denali doesnt operate this way, but Im sure its pretty close!

#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Former employee - outstanding management opportunity
AUTHOR: Mastersb - ()
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 25, 2013
My name is Beau Masters and I am a former employee of Denali executives. As a former employee I wanted the truth to be known about a company that truly stands apart. Glenn and Ashley are two of the best managers anyone could hope to work for. The opportunity they present to their employees is definitely real. I look at the first post on this page and all I can say to the concerned parent is your child wasnt working hard enough. As a merit based company you get paid why you're worth. Also you advance as quick as your work ethic allows. Yes I've been there for the long hours but my first week in the business I cleared $2000 in 6 days. there is no pyramid scheme what so ever. No one makes money off of anyone else. this company gives you the chance to have real life experience in building a business team and being the leader of that team. I've haD many sales job in the past and this opportunity is something completely different. This is a management training program that lives up to its name. You have an opportunity to manage and lead from day 1. Although this career path ultimately wasn't something that I stuck through until the end, I am definitely a better person, professionally and personally, for simply working side by side with Glenn Cunningham and Ashley smith. I am and will always be forever grateful for the opportunity and experience that I had at Denali Executives. The fun, motivating atmosphere that they provide is something truly special and only exists because of the great management that they have

#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Inside Review on Denali Executives
AUTHOR: Glenn Cunningham - ()
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 19, 2013
Hello, my name is Glenn Cunningham and I'm the President of Denali Executives Inc. I wanted to write an informational review about my growing company because I think it's important for people to make an educated decision from a knowledgeable, qualified source. I would like to briefly get you up to speed about what you need to know about my company and answer some of the most frequently asked questions that many of you reading this are searching for.
Denali Executives is a privately owned Marketing and Sales company that has been outsourced by over a dozen fortune 500 companies. We are a merit based business, which means we don't believe in the traditional seniority based system. Instead, we start every one of our Account Executives at an Entry Level position and cross train them from areas in sales and marketing to coaching, mentoring, training, team development, HR, administration, business finance, company branding and entrepreneurship
Below are a list of frequently asked questions that NO ONE writing reviews are qualified to answer other than myself and the rest of my management team.
Q: Why do companies outsource?
A: It's less expensive for the client and we carry the expertise to generate hundreds of new accounts on a weekly basis.
Q: Why does AT&T need a company like Denali in Indianapolis?
A: We specialize in Sales and Marketing and as of right now AT&T U-Verse is a very limited network and is not available everywhere. Currently AT&T is heavily relying on old school methods to generate new clients such as: telemarketing, billboards, ads, flyers, commercials, junk mail, and spam mail. None of these methods provides a very high ROI (return on investment). We on the other hand provide a 100% return on their investment through direct sales and marketing (meeting with our clients face to face) which is the oldest form of marketing known to man.
Q: Is this a Door to Door Campaign?
A: No, Since U-Verse is very limited and is available to less than half of the state we would be wasting our time knocking on random doors all over the city. AT&T actually pre-screens and pre-qualifies a specific set of leads for our reps to use. Our reps know exactly who they are talking to and where they are going before they engage a potential customer.
Q: This sounds similar to some other company I heard about. Is this a pyramid scheme?
A: I love this question. No of course not, we work with some of the largest companies in the U.S. and I highly doubt a prestigious company like AT&T would subject their good name to be used in any kind of scam or scheme. Pyramid schemes are illegal.
Q: Why have you changed your name so many times?
A: I have only changed my name once from Boardwalk Consulting to Denali Executives and it was because of a trademark issue with a company out of Atlanta and has nothing to do with what we do here. My company has never been named Bold Marketing Strategies, that is a completely separate company that has been ill researched and confused with mine.
The one major drawback to Denali Executives is that what we do is not easy, we put in a lot of time and effort. This is because we are highly motivated and we have big goals. We work hard so we can hit them sooner rather than later. If you want an extraordinary life, you have to put in extraordinary effort.
If you have any further questions and have been invited in for an interview, I suggest to come in and find out the answers directly.

#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Denali Executives - Upstanding Company
AUTHOR: Indy11 - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 17, 2013
Denali Executives is a great company and has much to offer. This company is a great entry level position to gain sales/marketing experience and attain real world business skills. They are very forth coming about what they do and how they do business. Yes, they work on commission so the person must have an above average work ethic but the people in the company are more than capable to pay bills and live off of their income from Denali Executives or they wouldn't work there.
Yes, the hours are long but that is what some see fit to be successful. The upward mobility and advancement is very attainable and black and white. They run a meeting about their company history and advancement every Wednesday @ 10 open to anyone because there is nothing to hide. They encourage bringing parents, family, and friends so they have a better understanding of the business.
Glenn Cunningham and Ashley Smith are tremendous individuals. They are great managers and mentors for their employees. They set a great example of what it takes to run a successful company and are more than willing to help their employees wherever they can.
As a former employee, I am more than supportive of the company and its practices. I think the experiences gained through this company couldn't be found anywhere else. They teach great business fundamentals that can be transferred to help the individual excel at any other position in any field.

#2 Consumer Comment
Thank You!
AUTHOR: spocko - ()
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 11, 2013
I had an interview with them tomorrow. I had a bad feeling about them. I am cancelling my interview!!! Thank you so much for the information.

#1 Author of original report
I forgot one thing
AUTHOR: Concerned Father - ()
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 10, 2013
In addition to what has been written previously I needed to add one more thing. In order to get by, my son had to borrow money from me, my wife, his uncles, and his grandparents. We all did not realize this was happening until after the fact. He would always say something along the lines of, "I will pay you back once I get a big check next week." Guess what? That check never came. All in all he had borrowed over $3000 from his family members.


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