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Complaint Review: Extreme Parti Yorkies: Tiffany O'Hearon - Saratoga Springs Utah

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I purchased a parti yorkie from Tiffany O'Hearon with Extreme Parti Yorkies that I recently discovered has a false pedigree. This little boy was purchased for $2,000 plus pick of the litter in November of 2011. After owning this little boy this long, I discovered in early January of 2013 his pedigree is false and there is a very real possibility that his AKC papers will go
conditional or even possibly get pulled if the sire is not found through DNA testing. 

A female yorkie was sold to Southern Utah Yorkies expecting a litter which was unknown by her owner. After the litter was
born, Southern Utah Yorkies called the prior owner and requested she sign the litter registration so the puppies could be sold with full AKC.
The owner declined to do so and stated she would not since she did not know the yorkie was expecting nor does she know who the sire is as she had two males in her residence at that time. As the original breeder of that litter, she requested that the litter be sold with no papers and petted out.

Tiffany O'Hearon purchased one of the puppies from this litter... a female yorkie, knowing the original breeder said there is more than one possibly father and pups needed to be petted out. She then registered the female through CKC using a false sire owned by a breeder not even in the same state, getting the names of one possible father and a random dog confused. This female yorkie was then rolled into AKC which is acceptable according to AKC policies, at this instance. But why the need to register through CKC if both parents were in fact registered with AKC to begin with? Tiffany o'Hearon claims it was a "human error" and she just listed the incorrect sire. She may have made a error in choosing a random dog's name to fill in the dog's sire's pedigree, but she knew was fully aware the litter wasn't supposed to be registered and the agreement on why the pups were suppose to be petted out. She deliberately registered the female through CKC, as she is fully aware she could get AKC registration papers through this process because this is the policy of AKC. Rather than following the wishes and decisions the original breeder wanted, she cheated and lied about the pedigree. She deliberately sold dogs knowing she falsified the pedigree and knew the linage was in question. There is a chance the pedigrees will get fixed if AKC can go back into the database and find a correct match with an AKC registered male (could take months), but the point is she falsified paperwork in order to breed a girl that was to be sold as a pet only at a reduced price. The actual sire to this litter could be one of two males, a biewer male or another male which I now actually own, unknown by me when I purchased both males as I intended on having different lines in my breeding program.

At this point, I have a parti yorkie I paid 2,000 for which I can do nothing with in regards to breeding as I am unsure what will happen with his papers or what his correct pedigree is. This has not only impacted myself but other people who have purchased the puppies unaware the pedigree was false. I and many others would not have the problem of being out of thousands if she didn't falsify pedigrees to save money.

The sad part about all this is she admitted she was aware the pedigrees were incorrect yet called it "human error" and offered to refund my money in full of $2,000 only to have her husband send me text messages the same day she agreed to a full refund refusing to honor her agreement and threatening me. NOT ONLY has she done this to myself and others who have purchased babies from her for 2,000 plus dollars, but she has ALREADY been suspended from AKC since December of 2011 for three years for pedigree fraud and using the incorrect registration on a litter. Apparently this is a habit of hers..... see page 50 on the bottom left hand side. http://images.akc.org/pdf/about/delegate_meeting/dec11.pdf
AKC policy is to provide  a warning on the first offense, on the second offense they suspend your AKC privileges. Clearly this is a habit she has of falsifying papers.

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#14 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: suzsk - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 22, 2013

escuse me. i meant if you bought from this breeder in the last year and got akc papers i would go to akc and ask them to investigate and make sure everything is right. i will also have them investiage the right name that are on the akc papers. better safe than sorry. dont want to find out later on that your babies will have to go back.

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AUTHOR: suzsk - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 22, 2013

i saw everything on facebook. i thought everything was settled. why do you keep backing out on your agreements tiffany? dont agree to anything if u dont think you can do it. all it does is waste time and make people mad. thi9s whole thing could be settle if you would have followed through n not threaten christina. the probelm is with you and christina. not christina and your husband. and i think people are stupid if they believe your story about you getting suspende. if i was suspended, i would make it seem like it was a mistake, too. i wouldn't tell the full story either. you could be making the whole story up. if everything you said was true, why are you still suspende. you probably had a problem with your co-owner and then tried to forge their name or something and got caught. why else isn't your suspension lifted? i would encourage that everyone that has these lines and have bought from akc to contact akc and report the situation and to ask can they investiage and make sure their linage is not wrong.

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#12 REBUTTAL Individual responds

AKC suspension

AUTHOR: Tiffany - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 22, 2013

I will address the AKC suspension Issue. I was involved in a very informal co ownership of over 6 dogs with another person. There was a lot of things that happened during the time we co owned these dogs together. I was accused of registering a litter without the other owners consent, when in fact she profited from that litter.

This was later proved in a court of law. Also I was told that a certain puppy was out of two parents that were not at my home. The puppy was registered to those parents and later DNA proved the puppy did not belong to those parents. But because I was Co owner of the parents I was accused of falsely registering the puppy.

Might I add that this person was would have also been disciplined for her actions in all of this but claimed
her with her disability that she could not remember anything she was accused off.  This is all something that I have shared with many people.  This co owner was hurt by me because I no longer wanted to co own the
dogs with her, therefore she took a very large claim against me that took over 3 years in court. I knew that I had done nothing wrong and was willing to fight to the very bitter end. She tried to settle the morning of our trial. I WOULD NOT DO IT. This cost me over $8000.00 in my lawyers fees alone. We spent a day and half in court going through vet bills, dog purchases, contracts ect... when the judge ruled on the case he ruled that she had only proved one cause of action and that was Dissolution of Partnership. She was awarded $229.83.
But since then the case has been dismissed with prejudice because she did not file a proposed judgement.  I have tried to take all this to the AKC as to what this person said in court about the dog that was registered
and also the registration of the litter. AKC's response was that they have made their decision and are not willing to reopen the case.

So when you say that this is a habit of mine, it is not. I bought shayla from Lindsay as a breeder. If Lindsay had an agreement with Kathy that she was suppose to sell the litter as pets, She did not do that. Nor did
she tell any of her buyers of that litter that they were to only be pets. She sold the brother to a friend of mine Katie Burke as a breeder.

His name was Ricksha. Also she sold Shayla's sister to a gal named Carrie Haber as a breeder. Her name was Phoebe. from my understanding Phoebe went on and bred to Lindsay's dog Sparky and They currently Co Own a female out of those two parents that has been rolled into akc
also.

I was not looking for a loophole to try and cheat the system. I was not trying to screw anyone over.  Yes I knew that both of her parents were AKC registered but when I talked to AKC they told me that it was perfectly acceptable to roll in a CKC registered dog as long as they had AKC dogs behind them. They said they would research the pedigree and determine if she would be eligible. They sent me back a form telling me that she was eligible for AKC registration. Maybe I was overzealous at the time because I had a gorgeous dog who I knew was AKC eligible and who I knew had AKC parents. I have admitted that I was wrong about her father, but I did not know until Loryn from Crownridge brought it to Lindsay's attention that anything was wrong with the pedigree.  All I can say at this point is DNA has been sent in on Shayla, and AKC will do everything they can to determine who her father is. Nothing is going to speed up the DNA process and the more this is really going no where by being hashed out over and over again.

You and Charlie both have beautiful Males from what I can see, who have both had litters. I can offer you the moon at this point and really nothing I can do at this point would be good enough. N matter how much you say I did this intentionally, I did not. You have no idea how much I am sorry for any harm I have caused anyone. My dogs are my pets first and foremost and all I ever want out of any of their babies is to bring
joy to their new families.

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#11 Author of original report

Pedigree Fraud

AUTHOR: Christina - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 22, 2013

What I stated was I have heard stories about the level of care, not that I have seen how she cares for her dogs because I have not. You seem to prefer to misunderstand what the real issue is or perhaps you prefer to and yes, she is suspended for exactly what she has done again, writing false parents name on a litter registration. Our agreement was a full rfund and the dog was neutered. May I remind you that you are the one the agreed to that contract?!

It is not something that will just be easily taken care of. Regardless of the outcome, the pedigree is false because you knowingly placed false parents on the litter registration. It is not something that can be an error and was very deliberate. Obviously, it is something you are very familiar with as you have already been suspended for this. Of course AKC accepts roll ins from CKC, an easy loop hole for breeders who are willing to cut corners and falsify information and you found that convenient loop hole.

All of the information has been provided to AKC and the statement they gave to me is that at best the AKC registration two generations down will be placed conditional. If the sire is not found and indeed the biewer male as the could be, then the sire will be listed unknown and the papers will be pulled completely two generations down.

And no, Kathy specifically stated not to register the dogs as she did not know the sire. You simply found a loop hole and continually try to claim it was just an error. Sure it was... and I was born last night. All I have to say on this matter and the findings from AKC will be provided as well as proof from other buyers from Tiffany O'Hearon.

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#10 Consumer Comment

As an unbiased viewer/reader:

AUTHOR: Grey0Low - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 22, 2013

As someone who is just looking in, I have to say that this whole situation is very weird. I have never seen a situation like this before.

I did read the link that someone above posted concerning the suspension of this breeder and the following was on there:

The AKCs Management Disciplinary Committee has suspended Mrs.Tiffany OHearon (Saratoga Springs, UT) from all privileges of the AKC for three years and imposed a fine of $1000, effective December 12, 2011, for submission of a false application to register a dog which affects the stud book; as well as the submission of an online litter registration application containing a false certification as to the signature of the coowner of the dam. (Multiple Breeds)

This breeder does seem to be suspended for screwing around on the registration papers on both a litter registration AND on a dog registration.  That means in the past, this breeder has falsified registration papers at least twice, and now this time. It does show a potential habit this breeder could have. If I were a buyer, I would question and double check any registration papers I get from her.  Does AKC know she is still registering litters and dogs through them? Is that allowed? Is she using a different name? Maybe her buyers should check out their papers and check with AKC. If she is using a different name but signing her name on any contract, showing she is the one doing the agreement and sale, she can get into trouble for this. Maybe a bigger suspension or permanent banning. I do believe that is against the rules and they should look into it. They need to investigate any name that is put down on those papers.

Im just reading the evidence people are providing and both sides of the story. It seems like the breeder, EPY, did make a mistake regarding the pedigree and put the wrong pedigree down. If the right father of that litter is available and you guys can do a DNA swap, you could get the situation fixed as soon as you can. No need for a refund, if you are willing to wait and see the outcome. But I do get where the buyer, the original poster, is coming from and why she is upset. Even though it does appear to be an accident concerning the wrong pedigree, the breeder did in fact commit some type of fraud and deception. Why did she register with CKC and then into AKC if both parents were already AKC registered? That is extremely questionable. If the original breeder said the pups were supposed to be petted out, they should have done so and not bred the dog. There does seem to be another person involved, the Lindsey person, so both EPY and this Lindsey person was wrong for sneaking back into AKC when they knew the pups were supposed to be petted.  Its actually quite sickening to know that these breeders are finding ways to registered dogs that are supposed to be pets. It questions what other dogs they have that was supposed to be a pet.

I see it like this: the person that sold you the dog, meaning EPY, is in fact a conniving liar, that did in fact commit a certain type of pedigree fraud. She snuck back into AKC using a pedigree that she thought was right. If she would have let the dog be a pet like requested, she wouldnt have needed to find and/or purchase a pedigree to put down on the papers.  She made a mistake using the wrong pedigree, but if she used the right pedigree of the dog in question, she would have still been wrong. There was NO definite father to the litter and more than one male could have been. All dogs in the situation should have been DNA to see who the correct father was before the pups was registered using ANY registry. The seller, EPY, knew that there could be more than once father to the litter, and still registered the litter with the dog she only believed, but didnt know for a fact, was the father.  Its very sickening for a breeder to do and if any other breeder believes that is an honest mistake, they are very delusional and in denial because of their friendship with this breeder. 

Its not about you intentionally screwing others over and sabotaging your own dogs. Its about you not following the rules and trying to cheat your way back into AKC. You brought a dog with a questionable pedigree into AKC, not really fully knowing who the right father was, and then you screwed up at it and used another dogs pedigree with a similar name, because you didnt know the right information of one of the potential fathers.  That is what you really did wrong. Its not about the accident of using a third dogs pedigree on mistake. Its about you intentionally registering a litter/dog with a pedigree of a dog who could have possibly been the father. Not the guaranteed father. You knew this, yet still ignored it and played the system to your advantage.

What I suggest is that the buyer returns the dog and gets a refund. But I dont believe a regular refund should be given. Because of the sellers deception in the linage, it isnt fair that the buyer has to eat the cost of the time lost and money spent on that dog. A bigger monetary amount should be given to make that buyer whole if the dog is returned. Its only fair when the seller is the only person that did something wrong in the situation. If the buyer would like to keep the dog, I believe they should wait and see the outcome with the DNA tests and see what AKC will do. Depending on the results, you can then come up with a solution. 

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#9 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Clearly you have questioned the care of my dogs

AUTHOR: Tiffany - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, February 21, 2013

You can say what ever you want to say. At this point all we can do is wait. DNA will show who the father is and nothing else can be done about this. Also, the care of my dogs is not in question. I have offered you a full refund for Tugger to come back. There is and has never been any reason to say anything bad about the care of my dogs. I would love to talk to whoever has said anything otherwise. As for what can be proven now, here is Jax Mars test that clearly shows that there is no BIEWER in his line. So when Kathy Leger told me that Ritzy was the one that bred Posh, and when I bought Shayla from Lindsey Tebbs with the agreement that she would be bred and that Lindsay knew that I planned on CKC registering her. This will help you to see that Tuggers Grandfather is not a biewer. How in the world would I have known that her father was even possibly Ritzy to begin with if I hadn't talked to Kathy Leger to begin with. My only mistake was that I heard his registered name wrong. And if I need to be hung for that, then hang me. Lindsay and I have spoken about the name of Posh also. She has told me that she thought she sent me her pedigree, this was just yesterday. She didn't she text me posh's name and it said SOUTHERN UTAH"S PARTI POSH. There is nothing wrong with that side of the pedigree. You guys must really think I am a fool. I have an absoluetly gorgeous boy Jax who is also in the middle of this. You honestly think that I would try and screw you guys over to sabbatog him. REALLY. If that is what you really think then you really have no idea what a prize Jax really is. ALL I can say.

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#8 Consumer Comment

Re-Read what you wrote

AUTHOR: Vicky - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, February 21, 2013

Clearly I can read what you wrote, Your boy is not going back to her home because of all the negative stories you have heard about how she cares for her dogs. Hasn't she offered you a full refund for your dog already? hasn't she said that she messed up? Why not get your money back and give her the dog back and be done with this whole thing. Also I have read what it says on the AKC page about her being suspended but it does not give a lot of information. Has AKC told you that she committed pedigree fraud before. These all seem like allegations and not actual facts. I realize what you are concerned about. But Like I said before, I have known Tiffany for over 8 years and I have referred many people to her. Never has anyone I have known been unhappy with her or how she runs her business or how she takes care of her dogs. If AKC allows the roll ins and she legitimately bought the dog believing that she had the parents names correct on the pedigree, isn't AKC also responsible for not doing their research on the parents also. I am just giving some ideas to try and help the matter. Like I said. I have know Tiffany for a long time, she would never intentionally try to harm anyone or anyones business.

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#7 Author of original report

Pedigree fraud, not question of care

AUTHOR: Christina - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 20, 2013

I am not questioning the level of care or quality of Tiffany's babies and never have. However, I would like to point out to you she is already suspended for the very same thing she has done this time with my little boy and several other babies who purchased babies from these lines. Regardless of how she cares for them, pedigree fraud is an entirely different matter.

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#6 Consumer Comment

I know Tiffany Personally

AUTHOR: Vicky - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 20, 2013

I have known Tiffany for many many years and have been to her home with her and her dogs and never have I seen any of her dogs mistreated in anyway. I have a beautiful Yorkie from her that I purchased over 2 years ago from her and she was always in the best of care. Tiffany gave me Vet references, Personal references and Every bit of care instructions that I would ever need to take care of my Bella. She takes excellent care of each and every one of her dogs the same way. I cannot for a minute even believe that Tiffany did any of this on purpose. She takes so much of her time in caring for her dogs and making sure that all their needs are met. Clearly you do not have much knowledge of who Tiffany is. Tiffany is a great person with a wonderful loving heart and would never ever want to do anything to harm or hurt another person. I have and still will refer anyone looking for a yorkie to her as long as she continues to breed.

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#5 General Comment

Same situation, Different dog.

AUTHOR: nammy.rice@gmail.com - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 20, 2013

I will be filing my own ripoff report because I have a half brother to the puppy mention here. But there is another ripoff report about this same individual that is not showing up. The link is below.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/tiffany-o-hearon/dog-breeders/saratoga-spirngs-utah-a1357.htm

Also, please view the document link below from the AKC Gazette Secretary's Notes Jan. 2012. On the second page on the document (labeled page 50) this breeder has been suspended from the AKC, effective December 2011, for 3 yrs. and $1000.00 find.

http://images.akc.org/pdf/about/secretary_page/0112.pdf





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#4 Author of original report

Clearly pedigree fraud

AUTHOR: Christina - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Oh yes I can see your trying to clear it up! Very humorous.... a mistake on a litter registration is not a human error as you continue to try to claim and of course, I listed not one but two emails from the original owner of the dam stating in no uncertain terms she did not know who the sire was and would not release the litter registration as I have listed in my previous email. So this is NOT something she just told you over the phone.

You are a joke to the breeding world and your continual attempts to lie and cheat on pedigrees and litter registrations are a disgrace.  You are already suspended from AKC for very same thing and these things are not something you can simply make an error on as they are pretty cut and dried.

After haring so many negative stories of how you care for your dogs, my little boy will never go back to your home. That is something you can count on. What I do not appreciate and will continue to say, is you lied and cheated your way with papers without any type of regard for the impact this would have on your buyers. Shame on you.

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

A mistake

AUTHOR: Tiffany - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 20, 2013

First of all I would like to make a correction of date on my part on the date that I became aware of the problem in the pedigree. I sent the pedigree to Loryn on Jan 28, 2013 not 2012 and by Feb 1, i had become aware that there was a problem with Shayla's sire. ( i have all these emails) When the owner of the sire emailed me on  Feb 1, 2013 She only asked how the dog got registered and never once denied that the father of the litter was in fact Ritzy, nor did she deny telling me this over 3 years ago. I have all the emails. She may have told you something different but like you I have the emails from her also.

All that really needs to happen is for everyone to sit back and have some patience. My decision to not refund the money was because I was not only not being given a fair amount of time but also I don't know any breeder that refunds money
without getting the dog back. You have really shown your true colors to the yorkie breeder community. I have admitted my mistake and am doing everything possible to fix it. But there is no mercy, nothing that I can do that will ever be good enough. I never lied to you or misled you on anything. If you would like to continue to consume your days crucifying
me then go ahead. I however am doing all I can to get this resolved!

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#2 Author of original report

Pedigree Fraud a habit

AUTHOR: Christina - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 20, 2013

The response you provide is ludicrous.
You are claiming the original owner of the female yorkie told you over
the phone who the sire was when she never did such a thing. I have her
email response directly when I asked her specifically, "Did you tell
Tiffany O'Hearon over the phone who the sire was?" This was her
response, "I just heard from a totally different parti about this
yesterday. I think i remember that she was sold possibly bred and it
could have even been my Biewer male and the pups were to be sold without
papers.. I actually mesg. Lindsey about an hour ago and have not heard
back if my
memory is serving me correctly or not." I then asked her a
second time are you sure you never told Tiffany who the sire was over
the phone as she is claiming and again this is her response, " well that
makes no sense when I requested and Lindsey complied and sold as pets
!!! If I knew Ritzy was the sire for sure why wouldnt I have signed a
litter registration for Lindsey! INSANE !!"If she did indeed
tell Tiffany O'Hearon over the phone who the sire was, then clearly she
would have responded with yes as she has nothing to be concerned about,
she did nothing wrong. I did not buy a dog for 2,000 from Lindsay so I
cannot address her action or whether they were right or wrong. I can
only address the person whom I purchased a dog from with an incorrect
pedigree which is Extreme Parti Yorkies.This tired lame story is
actually silly. Of course you cannot make an error when completing a
litter application as the sire and dams names as well as numbers have to
be written down. It is not simply an error on the sire name and if so,
why bother to register CKC to begin with when both parents are allegedly
AKC already? Of course AKC does accept roll ins through CKC...... that
is their procedure and I am not questioning it. But for the breeder who
is trying to find "loopholes" to get dogs registered with AKC and sell
at top dollar, this is a perfect way to go about it. not only was the
complete different sire listed on the litter application but the dam's
name was also changed slightly.When I originally discovered this
and attempted to come to a resolution with Tiffany, our contract we
agreed to was a full refund within 45 days with her agreeing to refund
half of the amount, 1,000, before the weekend which was on a Thursday.
The agreement was to neuter the dog and he was to stay with me as a pet
only. However, the same day we made this agreement I started getting
texts from her husband whom I have never even spoke with him during the
original purchase of the dog. CLEARLY, this is something that Tiffany
O'Hearon is a master at playing and continues to play even though she
has already been suspended for the very same thing, pedigree fraud and
listing incorrect parents on a litter application. It isn't her first
time around the block but hey, if you want to purchase a dog for several
thousand dollars only to find out months or years later the pedigree is
incorrect, feel free to throw your money away.
Also, I would never
ever allow my dog to be placed back in her home so she can resell him to
another unsuspecting innocent person. Naturally he is beautiful, I am
not in the habit of purchasing a male for my breeding program whom I did
not feel was the best quality I could find. Want to throw your money
away? Purchase from Extreme Parti Yorkies in Saratoga Springs, Utah....
Tiffany O'Hearon or Tiffany Thompson.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Not Pedigree Fraud

AUTHOR: Tiffany - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, February 18, 2013

First off I would like to address the fact that I am being accused of doing this intentionally to deceive anyone. I bought a dog from Lindsay Tebbs at a reduced price that Lindsay Knew I intended on registering and breeding. The price has absolutely nothing to do with this.  I called Kathy Leger and asked her about the possible sire to the litter that I bought this puppy out of and I was told that it was her dog Ritzy. She said his registered name in which I am guilty at this point and heard
wrong. I did not know until aprox. Feb 4th 2012 that anything was wrong with the registration. I would have to be a complete fool to have sent that pedigree to Loryn of Crownridge Gems if I had any question in my mind that the pedigree was wrong in any way.  This has come as a surprise to me also and I am doing what I have to in order to resolve the issue. In the meantime this is all a waiting game. Your comments seem as though I took a registration from a completely different litter
and put those papers on this puppy that I bought. I did not do anything of the sort. AKC allows Rollins and because of the circumstances between Lindsay and Kathy, this is how I went about registering this female yorkie. I have never received anything from Lindsay stating that I was not suppose to register nor breed her. Lindsay also has a full sister to
the father of your dog and she knew exactly what I was doing the whole time. I don't feel that I have done anything wrong. Like you said, your dogs papers will likely be fixed.

I will not refund any amount of money without first getting the dog back. I don't know any breeder out there that would. You have a beautiful, Stunningly gorgeous male that you already have pups out of that has been extremely healthy from
the very start. I take a lot of pride in the dogs that I raise and the quality that I put into them. I have many great references to Vets, Past customers and other breeders that I have worked very closely with.

Neverdid I know anything on this pedigree was incorrect and that is completely false.  I offered you a refund on your male because you are obviously unhappy with him, but I will not be refunding any amount of money without first getting the dog back. I would be glad to give you all the money you paid for your dog if he is returned to me.

Also I would like to know how I or my husband threatened you in any way? there has been no threatening on our part, only on your part that you are going to ruin my reputation.

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