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Complaint Review: Genesis Consulting Group - Tempe Arizona

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  • Genesis Consulting Group 3116 S Mill Ste Ave 212 Tempe, Arizona United States of America

Genesis Consulting Group Suspect website building company is tampering with affiliate link HTML codes on my web site. Tempe , Arizona

*Author of original report: Distributed 450 flyers and Still No Sales

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On Friday, December 10th I called Genesis Consulting and a man who answered the phone told me that the woman I asked for (who I agreed to pay $1,995 on September 29th) handles advertising and I should speak to my coach. I told him that my coach already mentioned to me that she doesn't handle business matters for the company.

On December 11th, I emailed my coach the following:

I called Genesis Consulting Group today to try to speak to Patricia Fields who sold me the training package and Jason said she handles advertising and probably was not the person I should be speaking to. He suggested I speak to my coach and I told him I felt I should be speaking to the business office. What I'm concerned about is that I've only had one sale on my site and it was from a friend of mine who has her own website. She commented that my site looked professional. I read some blogs this week and learned about link tampering and using affiliate link cloaking software to try to eliminate the problem. I ran a PRWeb news release on November 2nd and personally delivered 500 flyers to homes in suburban neighborhoods in my area. I Tweeted new posts and the morning of Cyber Monday, joined some forums (and would like to spend more time with them), and do facebook. My Home page indicates I've had over 1,300 visitors. So I should have had some sales by now. I have another 500 flyers to distribute but feel it's a waste of time because I suspect there's a security problem on the site. I'll be talking to my other coach at Prospering.com Monday afternoon and he said he would look at the site. If I need to use the affiliate link cloaking software, it will take me awhile to re-do everything. I would like to talk to someone at Genesis to get their input on why I have no sales when there have been over 1,000 visitors. Is there any advice you could give me?

I didn't receive a reply from the coach until Thursday, December 16th:

Its hard to pin point why 1300 visitors did not spend money on your website. All of them have their reasons but it take a bit of research to find out exactly what they are looking for. I took a glance at your website and I see the title of Garden Tripper but I see jewelery and Center Pieces and a number of different kinds of products on the gifts page. As a consumer, I'm a bit confused as to what your website's focus is. You will find that if you try to appease as many markets as you can, it spreads your options thin because you are competing with bigger companies that are one stop shops. If you were to specialize your website, you would have a sharper edge to slice through competition in the search engines. You can easily organize products that fall under the same niche to allow for ease of navigation of your website. The blogger button that is on your gifts page is talking about gardening as well. Maybe if we can find a focused niche and concentrate on that, we can watch what the numbers do. Let me know what you think...

I have to agree with my coach's comment about specializing my website, but I don't believe that's the reason why my Commission Junction, LinkShare and ShareASale accounts reflect no sales. Why did it take so long--5 days--for my coach to reply to my email. I think I know why.......I called Genesis earlier this week and spoke to a fast talking man who told me that my web site looked great, but that the Home page was too long and I should try to stay within my niche (gardening products & outdoor decor) or maybe consider changing my domain name. I took his advice and over the next day and a half I limited my Home page to online florists, outdoor & indoor fireplaces, fruit gift baskets, and Christmas trees and wreaths. Since I distributed a flyer featuring gifts, I moved the items to a separate Holiday Gifts page.

But I left out the most important fact....All day last Sunday and up until about 1:30 pm EST this past Monday, December 13th my website was down. I kept on checking back and the site was consistently down. I should have mentioned this to the man from Genesis I spoke to this week, but I bet he would have said they were experiencing server problems, which would be doubtful for that length of time. My theory is that someone at Genesis was tampering with my affiliate link HTML codes. I believe they changed my affiliate ID account number in the HTML code and earnings for any sales would then be reflected in someone else's account. I think the reason my site was down for so long is that Genesis needed time to change the HTML codes back to what I had originally set up. I filed a complaint with ic3.gov on Monday, November 22nd, filed a report with ripoffreport.com on December 3rd, so maybe they were contacted by some investigative agency or found out I filed a report on this site. It is highly doubtful that there were no sales if there were 1,300 visitors (assuming this number from Genesis is accurate), a PRWeb news release on 11/2, and 500 flyers were distributed in suburbia, along with Tweeting and other social media.

Today, Friday December 17th I went out on foot again and distributed 100 flyers in a suburban neighborhood I hadn't visited yet, and over the weekend and on Monday I'll be delivering another 400 in a new territory. I'll also be doing another post and Tweeting it. I certainly hope that the company isn't ripping me off. I still haven't paid the $1,995.00, but the man at Genesis quipped that it only cost $2,000.00. At that point in our conversation I hadn't brought up the cost of the training package, and his matter of fact mention of my spending a mere $2,000.00 bothered me.

Let's see if my accounts reflect any earnings in the next week. Even if I earn some money now, I'll never know how much I earned from my efforts in the last 6 weeks. (Unless no link tampering was occurring and someone clicked a banner on my website, didn't make the purchase and returns to the site in 30 to 45 days to make the purchase.) It takes all the fun out of working and I love the creative aspects of running a website business. If I am being ripped off, it isn't only the earnings from sales I lost. I spent hours setting up the site, preparing the graphics for 3 flyers, and writing blogs, and spent $100 for the PRWeb news release and $120 in photocopying. If I'm being taken advantage of, I shouldn't have to pay the $1,995.00 on my VISA bill.

I know this follow-up report is long-winded. However, I would like to know if any other website owners have ever had problems with website building companies. My next website will be built from scratch using WordPress and I wish I would have done this in the first place. That way I only have to work with the web hosting company.

 

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Distributed 450 flyers and Still No Sales

AUTHOR: Anne - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 29, 2010

I distributed another 450 fliers door-to-door in the suburbs between Sunday, December 19th and Wednesday, December 22nd and to date my Amazon, Commission Junction, LinkShare and ShareASale accounts reflect no earnings. One could say that the website and flier are terrible, and that I'm a disgruntled website business owner who is frustrated because I took my time to create a website, spent money to promote it, and made no sales. But I don't think that's the case......When you go to the site, the first thing that hits you is red lettering telling you that you can shop online for holiday flowers through the florists listed, and can also hop for jewelry and other holiday gifts. There's an affiliate banner with poinsettias that says Send Holiday Flowers Online with a text link below it. There's also a simple table with 4 holiday flower products and another text link, with more affiliate banners below it to browse other online florist shops. It's very doubtful that no one who received the flier went to the site and didn't click one of the banners or text links. My accounts only reflect the affiliate banners I clicked.

My coach at Genesis Consulting Group emailed me after I moved the holiday gifts to another page and restricted the Home page to gardening in order to stay within my niche. She felt that I was confusing visitors and should specialize more. The Genesis stat counter to date claims there have been 1569 visitors--All of them could not have been confused, especially if the top row of my flier concentrated on holiday flower baskets and centerpieces, and the first thing you see when going to the site is straightforward advertising to get people to click the banners or text links to check out and hopefully order flowers online. I wrote a post just before Christmas and tweeted it and I ran a PRWeb news release on November 2nd, and a total of 1250 fliers were distributed door-to-door in suburban areas. So it's not like nothing was done to promote the site. I was going to add an auto-responder, but when I became suspicious that someone was tampering with the site, I felt it would be a waste of time.

I forgot another important detail...This past Sunday morning at 9:30 am I discovered that the site was down and called Genesis Customer Service and left a message on voice mail. At 11:45 am I spoke to Dennis, a support associated, who said the server was down. I checked the site at 1:30 pm and 9:30 pm and it was still down. The next day the site was down at 9:30 am and at 10:30 am I spoke to a young woman named Vaughn who told me the site was down. I checked back at 4:50 pm and the site was finally up again. The same thing happened on Sunday, December 12th, Monday, December 13th, and Sunday, December 19th. I'm not systems expert, but it could be a server problem or a powering problem, and I understand that computer problems occur and you have to be patient while technical problems are being addressed. However, I'm paying $29.95 a month and agreed to have $1,995.00 charged to my VISA account on September 29th for 15,000 visitors to my site, access to training modules and 4 months of weekly sessions with a coach. I had 3 informative sessions with my coach, who suggested I email her from that point on because I really didn't need that much coaching. Any traffic to my site was generated by me and I could have attracted more traffic if I built a list. It's obvious that if there have been no clicks registered in my accounts, something is going on and I still suspect that it involves changing the account ID in the HTML codes so someone else receives the commission in his/her account(s). It's also quite possible that there is some technical problem, whereby some clicks on my site and goes through to the advertiser (company selling the product on their website), but the click is not registered in my account. In other words, I'm short circuited. If my suspicions are correct, I am paying this company to use their website builder and they in turn are using the site I spent hours learning to create to make some money for themselves. I feel that the man at Genesis I spoke to on December 10th was stringing me along when he told me building the business takes time and it would take about 30,000 visitors. I disagree...I targeted a local population of over 1,000 suburban households and someone would have been curious enough to visit the site and click a banner or link, and my accounts show no such activity. Since I'm not making any money, it would be foolish to continue the website with this company, especially if I don't trust them. It would be too costly to have an attorney handle this and the company will deny any wrongdoing and claim I had no sales, even though it's obvious there should have been some clicks from the advertising. My problem will be contesting having to pay the $1,995.00, which I'll discuss with VISA next week. I believe starting from the time of the news release at the beginning of November up until the Christmas rush, I was being defrauded, and still may be if anyone is visiting the site. There's no incentive for me to update the site and design pages for the spring gardening season.

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