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Complaint Review: Qualitas LGV Training - Chelmsford Internet

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  • Reported By: Daniel — Avonmouth Nationwide United States of America
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  • Qualitas LGV Training 15 Coopers Crescent, Great Notley Internet United Kingdom

Qualitas LGV Training Sterling LGV Training, Autosearch Essex LTD, Flair LGV Training, Amraf Training PLC Took money then didn't provide course Chelmsford, United Kingdom

*Author of original report: Hi John I see you are now in the national Press

*Author of original report: Thanx you for responding

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Company side of the story

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I made the mistake of signing up with Qualitas for an LGV Training course, the usual promises were made i.e. Driver shortages, 80,000 jobs etc. Unfortunately the course never materialised but the money definately went.

After this I did a bit of research into the company and the man behind all this who is John Dawson. It would appear John has a lot of history of taking peoples money and doing a runner. His illustrious career starts with Amraf training plc which collapsed back in 2001, even as the business was failing they were still taking payments from students for the courses with no ability to fulfill the training. After the collapse people who lost 2000 received 2 from the administrators, despite this John paid himself 500,000 in one year from the company. The collapse was so big it was raised as a question to the secretary of state for education. Please go to this website for an investigation carried out by the mirror (((link redacted)))

After this he set up Qualitas and applied the same ethics as before by taking peoples money with no intention of fulfilling the training. This company then became Sterling again applying the same ethics and now he is trading as Flair LGV Training, can't imagine whats going to happen next.

I am shocked that a person who prays on people, often they are using redundency money etc to pay for these courses to get back into work, is allowed to continue unchecked. Please use his new training company website to contact him if you have been effected by his actions through his various companies. You could also ask for your money back at the same time though I did try this but to no avail.

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#3 Author of original report

Hi John I see you are now in the national Press

AUTHOR: Fazed - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, February 18, 2010

Hi John

Well I see you have made it into the daily Mirror, hopefully this will help save more people from been left out of pocket. For those who didn't see it here is the text.

Five hundred trainee truckers lost their course fees of up to 1,000 when Autosearch (Essex) Ltd collapsed.

Tommy Williams, a sweeper on Liverpool's Albert Dock, enrolled with Qualitas Training: "I am on low pay and needed this to better myself."



Qualitas was run by John Dawson (right), 53, from Braintree, Essex, until it was wound up in 2007 but continued as a trading name for Autosearch.



Autosearch went bust last year owing 460,000 to trainee truckers.



Dawson's ugly mug has graced this column before, when his IT training firm Amraf Training PLC collapsed in 2001. Thousands of students wasted 4,000 fees on courses that were abandoned, but not before Dawson and co-director Anthony Johnson banked 1.5million in two years.



Dawson's already dusted himself off again and has set up Flair HGV Training.



He's now got the cheek to call for minimum training standards, warning:
"It's all too easy to close down and start again." Well, he'd kno
w.

Pretty damning I think you'd agree. To really put this into context here is the report from your Amraf days.





THESE men made obscene amounts of money shattering the dreams of people trying to better themselves.
Greedy John Dawson and Tony Jordan are now the wealthy ex-bosses of Amraf Training Plc.
Amraf offered computer training at 4,000 a time but went bust last month, leaving its students devastated and in many cases crippled by debts.







After we first wrote about Amraf, a message posted on the internet caught our eye. "Unless a major media organisation takes up our cause we are well and truly shafted," wrote someone calling himself simply Phil. "Watchdog would rather talk about unhappy holidaymakers and other little scams - anything but 4,000-plus students that have been shafted."
Well, Phil, we suspect you're shafted whatever we write, but we can at least expose this disaster.
We went along to the creditors' meeting in Victoria, Central London, where the directors faced the victims' wrath. Some had not even started their training when the company was put into administration on October 1.
"They took my money on September 26, well knowing that they would not be able to deliver anything," one irate student told the meeting.
Things became more hostile when it was revealed just how much money had been raked in by directors Dawson, 45, and Jordan, 37.
In 1999 they paid themselves more than 500,000 in salaries and dividends. Last year it was almost 1million - more than half Amraf's net profit.
From January to August this year, despite the steadily deteriorating trading position of the company, they still found almost 200,000 to split between them.
"You are taking wadges of cash from these people here who paid you in good faith," came a shout from the floor.
Dawson, who owned 95 per cent of Amraf's shares, pleaded innocence.
"There was never any intention, whether you believe it or not, for this to happen," he told the meeting. "Many other training companies have gone to the wall. I have a clear conscience." Then a question framed by Sorted shed more light on this fat cat. Under pressure, Dawson admitted serving 120 hours' community service for a fraud conviction. He'd forged an exam paper.
Amraf, based in Basildon, Essex, had been fattened up in the hope they could flog it for big bucks.
At its peak it had a dozen training centres around the country, but the sale collapsed.
When the administrator was called in, it was losing 400,000 a month. Students had paid a total of 2.3 million for courses they cannot now complete. They've been warned to expect a return of just 10p in the pound. As Phil put it, they're shafted.
No wonder Dawson and Jordan left the creditors' meeting flanked by two enormous minders.
We expect the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to ensure these men are quickly banned from running companies. And we mean quickly, because Dawson has turned his "talents" to a new operation.
Earlier this month, he became director of a company called Silvergate Training Ltd. Just thought you should know.
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Regards

Dan

PS Nice picture though I think the comment "ugly mug" was a bit harsh

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#2 Author of original report

Thanx you for responding

AUTHOR: Fazed - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 16, 2010

Hi John, thank you for making the effort to reply which is a little different from the amraf days. To give you an idea of why I am a little angry I have been unfortunate enough to have experienced both Amraf and qualitas.
 
My Son who was 20 at the time signed up for one of your Amraf courses prior to the collapse in order to improve his new career. We keep the 2 cheque which was all we got back framed on the wall probably along with thousands of others. You can imagine what it was like for me to lose out to Qualitas in the same way especially at my age.

You describe it as complex, it wasn't, you were taking 500,000 each with your partner a year. You continued to take money from students knowing full well what was going to happen. They said it best in the report that you should never be allowed to run a business again.

We could see what you were up to, use the goverment backed scheme to give credibility, expand beyond the ability to earn in the hope of selling, then if it all went pear shaped take as much money out as possible. The problem was the students were not numbers on a profit and loss sheet, they were real people with real lives devastated  by this. Still at least the money allowed you to afford the security for the court case.

As to Qualitas, you are quite correct you are not on the list of directors but you have association with the people who were. Your own business Qualitas Training LTD (set up after it was stated you should never run a business again) shows up on companies house and has common address occuring with autosearch over a year prior to the absorbtion into Autosearch.

You worked quite high up in the new company certainly high enough to see what they were doing (a quick google of the complaints shows a common theme). You were also happy to use the terms and conditions from their site which were used to perpetrate this and put it on yours.

I could go on forever about this and like I say thank you for responding but I am sad to see you still have no remorse for what you have done over the years. In fact you actually seem proud of your past actually posting the fact you are John Dawson from qualitas and Amraf on a website which is how I found all this.

Regards

Dan

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

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AUTHOR: Flair Training - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, February 15, 2010

My name is John Dawson. I am replying to the original report because while websites like this provide a valuable service the reader should know both sides of the story.

I started the company Qualitas Training Ltd in early 2004. We built a good reputation within the industry and in May 2006 we were approached by a a much larger company, Autosearch (Essex) Ltd who wanted to take us over.

At that time Autosearch traded under the name Sterling Training. They continued to do so and in fact traded under 2 different names, Sterling Training and Qualitas Training.

Qualitas Training Ltd was closed down and Autosearch (Essex) Ltd continued using the name from May 2006.

From that moment on I was employed by Autosearch primarily as a LGV trainer. This continued until October 2009 when I left the company along with many other instructors who were being made redundant due to a severe downturn in new course bookings.

I purchased a vehicle from them that they no longer needed with the intention of starting a new much smaller one man business as an LGV trainer. I called this new business Flair Training.

Since then Autosearch (essex) Ltd has gone into receivership. At no point in the past was I either a shareholder or director of the company. I was an employee only.

I completely refute the suggestion that I have sold training courses with no intention of fulfilling the training. Qualitas Training was a well run business up until the time it was taken over by Autosearch. The new business Flair Training has also been setup with the intention of providing value for money LGV courses. To date we have had no complaints from any customers.

It is easy enough to look up Autosearch (Essex) Ltd online at companies house and download a list of directors and shareholders. You will not find me on that list.

The story of Amraf Training is a long and complicated one but in brief it was an I.T training company started in 1987 that unfortunately went bust in late 2001 along with many other similar businesses shortly after the 9/11 event.

 

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