Complaint Review: skydive longisland - calverton New York
- skydive longisland 4062 grumman blvd calverton, New York United States of America
- Phone: 6312083900
- Web: www.skydivelongisland.com
- Category: Sports Instruction
skydive longisland skydive long island dangerous, lyers, cheaters, calverton, New York
*Consumer Comment: Thanks Ronkonkoma!
*Consumer Comment: Reasons why this may be a fake report.
*UPDATE Employee: Note to the author
*General Comment: two sides to every story
*Author of original report: WOW very angry people
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: ronkonkoma grow up
*Consumer Comment: The Truth
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Nothing but Lies from a Skydiver with an agenda !!
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Me and my friends went to Skydive Long Island for a so called great day to jump out of a plane. We had reservations and waited all long to jump. Its obvious all they care about is the money as the tandems instructors actually run to the next customer after their prior jump. They spent no time with us and made it very dangerous. They spent no time to explain anything at all. other places where i did a tandem skydive the instuctors spent atleast 45 minutes to explain the whole process. Skydive Long Island does NOT do this at all and made the experience a complete nightmare. Once in the Plane the tandem instuctor was feeling up my girl friend and her friends as well. The girls explained once the parachute opened they were touching their breats and it was not a good feeling as they could not protect themselves. We paid for a skydive from 13,500 feet and only got 10,000 feet, and we went threw alot of clouds in which i heard this was illegal, they did not refund any money to us after complaining and putting our lives at risk, once the parachute was opened the camera guy almost flew into us and then i saw another tandem pair flying right next to us as the tandem instructors were laughing and chasing each other. Is this normal ???? After that experience one of out friends broke their ankels due to a real low turn into the ground.... Do they care about ANYONE ???? OMG these guys should be shut down.Then we paid for a video for $125.00 and noone recieved the videos and we kept calling and they just ignored us ..... someone needs to report this business to the proper authorities, maybe thats why we did not recieve our videos because all they care about is money and will jump out of planes in any weather...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-FcL5GOP1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP4J7ZdVxvA
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#8 Consumer Comment
Thanks Ronkonkoma!
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 16, 2010
I was gonna spend money and have all my friends learn to Skydive at SDLI, but thankfully I found your post before I went there. You probably saved me a ton of.....NOT!! Your comments are ridiculous, and you need to get your GED so you can write properly. So you just sat there watching these instructors have an orgy and attempt to rape all the girls in your party?? Do you have a police report number from when you reported the sexual assault? What did you do as the animal instructors felt up your friend's "breats?" What the hell is a breats anyway?
So they just tossed a parachute at you and said "okay let's jump?" No explanations, no lesson, no basic skills instruction? Wow, hard to believe they can remain in business for 25 years by raping all the customers and bypassing any instruction whatsoever.
The only mistake SDLI made with you, assuming you even went there anytime in your life (though I doubt it), was giving you a parachute at all. That would be a good tape, your brains plastered to the sidewalk when you hit free fall speed from 13,500 feet up, oh yeah I mean 10,000 feet, isn't that illegal? Do us a favor and go play in traffic, while fondling your breats.

#7 Consumer Comment
Reasons why this may be a fake report.
AUTHOR: Kristopher - (Virgin Islands (US))
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 17, 2009
To know terms such as low turns, and altitude awareness like this report shows the accuser most likely is a experienced skydiver, far from his first tandem. The person making the complaint stated that he was not given any prior training before his jump, but to know terms such as these, you at least need to go through ground school or have experience more than that of a first time tandems skydiver. He claims to have been jeopardized the information on skydiving yet he had clearly demonstrates his knowledge in his written report. Also the altitude that the writer of the original report is most likely incorrect as well, stating he had jumped from 10,000 feet. In all my jumps at Skydive Long Island they were either from 13,500 feet (the majority of the time), or from 11,500 feet due to circumstances out of the pilots control. The aircraft would most likely would never have taken off the ground if its intentions were to let the tandem jumpers out at 10,000 feet. The altitude of 10,000 feet for a skydiver is usually the goal of smaller aircrafts which cannot climb higher than this altitude, Skydive Long Island does not own or operate any of these smaller planes. Other drop-zones whom may be using this report as an excuse to make themselves look better than they are, because they cannot achieve the altitude that of Skydive Long Island, most likely operate these smaller aircrafts.

#6 UPDATE Employee
Note to the author
AUTHOR: L - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Dear Ronkonkoma,
Instead of using videos from 2008 that pertain to free-flyer's (licensed experienced jumpers) or a first time tandem video from the same weekend with a caption that reads:
"If anyone is ever thinking about doing this - it's amazing. I went to Skydive Long Island in Calverton, LI. My tandem Jumper guy & videographer made the experience perfect. Absolutely nothing bad about it. Next time i hope to do some more flips on my free fall,"
why don't you contact the office at 631-208-3900 as they will gladly find those videos that you claim "no one in your group received" as the videographers have them all on file and would be more than happy to make another copy. Then you can use your own video to demonstrate and validate your claims? Furthermore, we are not angry people, we are just a close knit family of skydivers who take your false statements personally against us and our sport. If the things you state in your report are true, why didn't you contact the management or file a complaint so that they could rectify your concerns? To hear about your case via a spontaneous internet search is ridiculous in my opinion as if I were you, I would have raised hell if what you say was anything near the truth. I'm sorry but unfortunately your story just does not match up to the facts.

#5 General Comment
two sides to every story
AUTHOR: Tim R - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 15, 2009
After reading the report it sounds like the person who wrote it is the angry one. I can state from my own personal experience that ("all they care about is money and will jump out of planes in any weather...") is not what Ive encountered.
Actually I had the opposite attitude from the owner and staff. I have been removed from a jump due to the weather conditions that faced my inexperience at the time, and while being trained was pulled off because my instructor felt that I was simply not ready for the progression of my training. Keep in mind that while youre in training to get your license it costs over $175.00 for the jump that you might fail and would have to repeat in order to advance. If it was ALL about the money why not let me make the jump, possibly fail and have me repeat it?
I am NOT a member of the staff but only someone who has been trained by them and continues to jump there because of the personnel.
The question that came across my mind was IF the tandem master was feeling up the female jumper, how was he able to fly the Canopy?
There are always two sides to every story, but taking it to the internet and posting it without going through proper authorities makes me question and doubt the validity of the report.
TR.

#4 Author of original report
WOW very angry people
AUTHOR: customers - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 12, 2009
i dont think im the lier, its obvious you all work there and dont really care about anyone, just take a look at the youtube videos, theres all the proof right there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-FcL5GOP1Y

#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company
ronkonkoma grow up
AUTHOR: Larry - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 07, 2009
I have been skydiving at skydive Long island for 7 yrs and have never once witnessed anything that is stated in this report. This mental midget must have been at a different drop zone. I have been to quite a few DZ's and SDLI is in my view is a top shelf well run organization. I happened to know all the instructors pretty well and to make these acusations is a personal slap in their face. My opinion is that the original poster is in a financial nose dive and trying to bring others with him/or her???
Ronkonkoma's post is the true definition of slander and should be prosecuted in a court of law

#2 Consumer Comment
The Truth
AUTHOR: Skydiver Chick - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 06, 2009
I've been jumping with Skydive Long Island for over 3 years and can honestly say that Ronkonkoma's report is an immature attempt to give Skydive Long Island a bad name. I did my first tandem in 2006, and it was such a WONDERFUL experience that I kept coming back for more. I did a total of 5 tandems before starting my training and not once did any of the instructors try to touch me inappropriately. In fact, the were all extremely professional and made me feel at ease when jumping from 13,500 feet! I started my training to become licensed in 2007. Everyone here at SDLI has been nothing but pleasant, patient and willing to spend any and all time it takes to help me achieve my skydiving goals. Not once did I ever feel that I was in danger, nor did anyone ever make me feel uncomfortable or like I was being taken advantage of.
I've spent a majority of this past summer at the dropzone and I KNOW that not one of the instructors here would EVER touch a female passenger inappropriately. I actually find it quite disgusting that Ronkonkoma would even accuse anyone of doing so. The closest they get to a girls chest is when they are under parachute and the instructor loosens the chest strap, in which they would inform the passenger first. Any process of gearing up or taking the harness off must be done by an employee and is ALWAYS done in a professional manner.
SDLI does everything in their power to avoid clouds and fully abides by the FAA rules and regulations regarding Skydiving operations under part 105. In the event that there is a layer of clouds preventing the plane from going to 13,500 feet, I KNOW that all tandem students are given the option of jumping from a lower altitude or receiving a full refund. So Ronkonkoma, if you jumped from 10,000 feet it's because you agreed to! I also KNOW that all the videos that get purchased DO get sent out. The tandem students address the envelopes themselves so if you didn't get your video it's your own fault. I'm sure there have been issues with the post office and what not but SDLI does not hesitate to send out another copy if they are made aware that a tandem student never received their video.
All skydivers land in a common landing area, therefore, when under canopy it is inevitable that you will see other parachutes. The instructors were NOT chasing each other under canopy. They were following a left hand landing pattern which is the standard pattern here, ALL skydivers are taught to use a left hand pattern at Skydive Long Island!!!
Skydive Long Island is a friendly and professional dropzone. When reading Ronkonkoma's report I was blown away by all the lies. I've spent the last 3 years at Skydive Long Island, and it is my home away from home. I hope that sharing my experience has helped whoever is reading this to realize that Ronkonkoma's report is personal and does not reflect the "real" Skydive Long Island!! Come out and see for yourself!
BLUE SKIES

#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Nothing but Lies from a Skydiver with an agenda !!
AUTHOR: Ray-Drop zone owner - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 05, 2009
I am the owner of Skydive Long Island In Calverton, it would have been nice to know who the person from Ronkonkoma actually is.
This "report" is nothing but a bunch of lies. If what this person said is true, he or she should go to the authorities and file a formal complaint and we can sort it out in court if need be.
Skydive Long Island in Calverton has been in business for 24 years, if we are doing what Ronkonkoma is saying, we could never still be operating.
This "report" was not sent by a new customer--it was sent by another Skydiver with an agenda to discredit Skydive Long Island in Calverton.
It also seems that this "report" was written by a fourth grader that failed spelling and grammar.
Everyone of our 1st time Tandem students have to watch our twenty minute training video--no exceptions, then their Tandem instructor goes over every thing before the jump.
The Tandem Masters are ALL Professional Instructors and do not engage in any activity the "report" says.
Personally if some one was feeling up my girlfriend, I would do something on the spot to defend her dignity--unless of course I am that fourth-grader. Oh--and what are "breasts" ?
We jump from 13,500', unless their is cloud cover, or a situation with other air traffic, we do not charge for 13,500' and then jump from10.000',we also do not jump through clouds--we know that is not allowed.
To get a good video the cameraman does fly very close, and some takes the passengers hand for a few seconds--that is how it is done to get a good quality video.
Yes we did a Tandem passenger break his ankles this year--it was his second Tandem, and he did not pick up his feet as he was instructed to do--it was not a low turn.
Hey Ronkonkoma,If you paid for videos and did not receive them, come down to the airport, ask for me, Ray, DZO, and I will gladly refund you your money.--Oh yea--is "noone" a person That jumped with you that day, or maybe was it a night jump?
This is nothing but slander by some one who does not have what it takes to come face to face with me.
Skydive Long Island In Calverton has a great record and reputation--please check with the governing body of Parachuting in the United States--USPA.org That is the United States Parachute Association.
It is a shame in today's world something like this can actually be put out there for all to see with no proof, and I have to respond to these lies and accusations.
If anyone would like to speak with a live person that has gone through our program please contact us at Skydive Long Island in Calverton, and we will get you in touch with them.
Thank You,
Truthfully,
R.M. ,DZO
Skydive Long Island in Calverton


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