Complaint Review: Sunset Group, Resort Management International, Sunset Hotel, Sunset Lagoon, Sunset Fisherman - Cancun Other
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Sunset Group, Resort Management International, Sunset Hotel, Sunset Lagoon, Sunset FishermanSunset Group, Resort Management International, Sunset Hotel, Sunset Lagoon, Sunset Fisherman Trick Used by This Company to Entice People to Sign - Use Against Them If They Victimize You Cancun Mexico
*UPDATE Employee: Response by Sunset Group
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As I perused the complaints against the Cancun Sunset Group, I noticed that one of the tricks they use to convince people to purchase a "timeshare" is getting people intoxicated with free alcohol.
They also have a second motive for the alcohol being free - there is no record, no bill, that the person can use to prove he was under the influence of alcohol when he signed.
There are two main situations in which a contract is invalid. One is if the person is under the legal age in which a contract is valid, namely 18. Secondly, if the person signing it is doing so under the influence of alcohol, then the contract is invalid. I'm not a lawyer, but I believe this is the law at least in the US and Canada, if not Mexico.
Several people on this web site asked if there was a way to get out of their contract. If they can individually or collectively prove that these people tried to get them drunk to get them to sign, then the contract can be proven invalid. If they have timed photos or bills showing they drank a lot beforehand, this would also help to invalidate the contract they signed because their resistance was lowered. If they have witnesses. Lastly, if it can be proven, with cameras or video tape that this is a tactic that they use on people to lower their resistance, then I'm certain the FBI and RCMP would love to have it to prosecute them since this organized crime entity and its "collectors" operate out of addresses in the US. I'm pretty sure it is illegal to get someone drunk in order to get the victim to sign away thousands of dollars to the thief. Alcohol thus becomes the equivalent of a knife or gun, used to convince people to part with their wallet and its credit card contents.
Another issue I noted in all the complaints was the Sunset Group's constant changing of names, addresses, phone numbers, emails and web site addresses and the inability of the victims to contact them. But there is one site that seems to know where they are all the time, namely their collection agency, Resort Management International. I would suspect it is illegal for them to collect money for a business that keeps changing its name,address and phone so its "investors" and time share owners can't reach it so as to stay hidden from them unless the collectors themselves know how and where to reach the business they are collecting for. They are accomplices in the fraud, but their name, address and phone numbers aren't changing and if you need to complain, then I would expect that not only do they have to listen, but they have to give you the latest name, address and phone numbers of those who demand your money.
I would also suggest that, if it's possible, that individuals who have lost a lot of money contact a collection agency themselves to get it to collect the money from the Sunset Group or RMI that they stole, in addition to both the FBI in the US and RCMP in Canada since past and future victims are being targetted from the citizens of both countries by them.
Joe
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
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#1 UPDATE Employee
Response by Sunset Group
AUTHOR: Rosalia - (Mexico)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 10, 2007
Sunset Group does not force in any way, shape, or form our guests on presentation to drink. Please keep in mind that all of the people who go through these sales presentations, whether with us or any other company, are all adults with a sense of morals and responsibilities. Many times people come through these presentations just for the free gifts offered, the free food, and often times the free drinks. It is not illegal to offer these things in compensation for the time spent with us.
Please be aware that we are also happy to offer non alcoholic beverages as well. It is a personal decision made by the individual, not by our company.
Furthermore, we do not force anyone to sign any contract and everyone has the right to fully read and request clarification of terms before signing. In the event that our members have questions, we encourage them to contact us. Members are provided at the time of joining a full page of contact information with current and updated data.


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