Complaint Review: The Nouveau Tech Society - Grove Coty Ohio
- The Nouveau Tech Society 3357H Southpark Place Grove Coty, Ohio U.S.A.
- Phone: 716-871-2844
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- Category: Cult
The Nouveau Tech Society Secrets Book ripoff Grove City Ohio
*Consumer Comment: Mixed reviews, but I have personal experience...
*Consumer Comment: Nice Try
*Consumer Suggestion: refund check bogus
*Consumer Suggestion: received refund check
*Consumer Comment: Nouveau Tech's Secrets Finally Brought to Light
*Consumer Comment: Kevin, is that you?
*Consumer Comment: Ripoff? Far from it. One of the best books ever written. Nouveau Tech Society's books are priceless.
*Consumer Comment: How can people call something a "RIP-OFF" without purchasing the product!!
*Consumer Comment: Nouveau Tech is a good company
*Consumer Comment: Not a very convincing note...
*Author of original report: Situation Resolved
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I noticed while viewing other's reports of how they were taken advantage of by the company or LLC called Nouveau Tech, that for the most part no one ever ordered the actual book that cost's $135.00 plus shipping and handling for a grand total of $139.95.
I ordered the book and would like to reveal what the timely time sensitive secrets are or seem to be.
First they want to remove all mysticisms such as the belief in God or any mystical god, whether you are Pagan, Christian, Buddhist, or whatever. It really seems contradictory to the sample letters they send out saying "we have detected that you have double sine waves surrounding you" or statements from other prospective members such as " God bless the Nouveau Tech society." They also make the statment "If you've expereinced times in which a higher power or God is directing you and we know you have then YOU'VE GOT IT, it's as simple as that." That statment contradicts their whole philosophy that there is no higher power.
One of the things they mentioned in the book is that Karma is the belief that whatever you do in a PREVIOUS life will return to you in this life. For those of you who don't understand the nature of karma let me explain. Karma is a Pagan, Buddhist and Christian belief. Put into simple terminology karma means what goes around comes around. For the Christian religion it is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and "those who kill by the sword shall die by the sword". For the Pagans it is a threefold law meaning if you hit someone it comes back to you with three times the force, this belief is also present in witchcraft.
To state that karma is the belief that whatever someone does in another lifetime returns to you in this lifetime is stating the Buddhism inteperetation of karma only. Karma has more than one meaning in several other religions.
Nouveau Tech wants to remove the belief in karma from future Neo-tech members. They believe karma is a form of mysticsm along with Christianity and Paganism.
They believe the earth was created 4000 years ago and that man evolved from apes. They take a Darwinsim approach to their philosophy but also believe in creationism in the aspect that all concious beings are gods, and are constantly involved in creating new universes with a force called zonpower.
The only applicable information I found helpful was how to create a business using intergrated thinking. Instead of going from one different task to another, the belief is to complete all small alike"nitpick" tasks first and then complete the major project.
The book comes in a white box and is black with a message with the occupants name encoded on the front of the book in a white stick on type memo. The paper used to construct the pages of the book appears to be recycled newspaper.
All other information in the book has been published on the web. Just type in the word "zonpower" and you will find excerpts from the exact book that they want you to pay 139.95 dollars for. You can also do a google on Frank R. Wallace and discover he is no longer living, and that he passed or joined the earth again from his conscious existence in February of 2006.
The ten second mircle that the sample letters mentioned is not in the "Nouveu Tech Society Secrets" package. To discover the ten second miracle type in "the ten second miracle" on your search engine and you discover that it is nothing more than concentrating on a feeling for ten seconds. The power ivolved in this is supposed to be "phenomenal". I tried it and it must be "phenomenal" for the medicine man of the 21st century.
For the remaining chapters of the book it explains how sex is natural, along with sodomy, or any other kind of sexual act. They then explain it is important to have morals. They then give the definition of a moral. A moral to the Nouveau Tech society is defined as something that doesn't offend others. To be immoral is to offend those who live in society.
My question is what is the point of being moral if you have no belief in karma or any kind of justification for sin? Just because it's moral I should give to society, but only for the fact that it's moral? The point of karma is that those acts of kindness return to you. If there is no karma or any means for justification of sin, then why is it wrong to committ a crime? If you remove all barriers of belief, then you get this: Man created himself, when man dies he is dead, any sexual feeling is right and should be acted upon freely, crime is not sinful. What kind of society will this create? A society built on the principals of anarchy. Do what you will if it pleasures you.
I'm not saying that Nouveau Tech is spreading anarchy, but the way they present themselves in their book seems to represent an anarchy approach.
Make your own decision regarding this book, if you purchase it, keep an open mind. The book is full of assumptions, and before many sentences the phrase "I think this may be, or possibly this has happened, is used. If no facts can be presented as to why they "think, or why something can "possibly" be done, how can they be trusted?
William
Lawton, Oklahoma
U.S.A.
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#11 Consumer Comment
Mixed reviews, but I have personal experience...
AUTHOR: Lila B - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 16, 2009
I can see where some have read some of the Literature, but none but one seem to have made a focused effort to see if there was value in its pages. There are alot of pages to read, and it is easy at first to misinterpret some of what you read. I am a seeker of knowedge, and when I received the first big volume I was determined to read page by page every single word, and not go forward until I understood what was on each page or in a concept. It was slow going at first, since I am not a business person, but I am widely read in many diverse areas and had a 98% Comprehension level starting my University years. I have read voraciously since I was a child.
Before high school graduation there was a tug of war between Art and the field of Medicine where I could learn all about the Mind and Body. I have had a career as an RN/BSN in Nursing with half of my career in Research at a National Research Center, then specialized in Cancer and diseases of the elderly with emphasis on the Psychiatric aspects. On my own time I developed my Artistic abilities over the years. A side study was carried on about Philosophy and Comparative Religions, alongside study into what went into the makings of the superior human being, one who had made their evolutionary progress. I was also interested in finding the "switch" that would turn off the Biological Clock, and studied in these areas, too.
I have been involved in this Society for several years, and have loved every minute, since all my knowledge up to when I began reading all the Literature available has been used in understanding the value in its pages, which I feel I do now as far as I've gone. I find no untruths in the writings, and I have been able to use what I've learned to remove my own societal misconceptions in so many personal and universal areas that enables me to see more and more clearly Reality itself, as it is and not how I might wish it to be. Applying all the knowledge gained has expanded my brain power immensely, and enabled me to see my relationships more also as these are, which removes alot of confusion that usually arises between men and women as they figure out themselves & their lives when already in relationship.
I have made many friendships of the heart in this Society, and worked alongside many talented like-minded individuals on interesting and life affirming projects. I do want you to know that none of us are clones of anyone, but unique BEings coming from diverse lifestyles, ages, races, etc., who can come together to help each other find our unused talents and abilities and free our Minds of limitations that have held us back from blossoming into the persons we were meant to become in freedom and peace. We want to make the world a better environment for all peoples on this planet.
I also want to say that Atheism is not where it is at in this Society. Consciousness IS. The Universe is a big place, and is felt to be intelligent in the natural laws it operates on, as is the microcosm of our own bodies. Our Minds are possibly the only "wild hare" present as creation unfolds on its natural basis and our lives as we create these, and our version of ourselves, since it depends upon the clarity of Mind in Consciousness just what it is that we create.
Do you honestly think humans are made to participate in Wars, killing off other humans, to be at such odds with each other, to rape our planet of its resources without a thought, and to take advantage of other humans for greed's sake, and all those other "slings and arrows of outrageous fortune that humans are heir to", to paraphrase Shakespeare? The aim of the Literature is to right these wrongs, to remove these aspects from the Mind that gives it its dis-ease that tells its human that all of this just spelled out is OK!
Humans on this planet have to learn to respect the right of all humans to live a happy and fulfilled life, and learn to do this together or the human race is in danger of extinction. Per History, the average span of a civilization is somewhere close to 250-275 yrs. We are coming close to that Nuclear Threshhold, and Consciousness comes to say it is time to bring forth a new Paradigm Shift that raises the human Consciousness to a new level of understanding of what fosters LIFE and excellence in living...
I have studied the brain and neurophysiology, and Quantum Physics, and all of this is coalescing into a generation that cares what is happening on this Earth, and wants something better for us and our children and their children, and so on in Time. I have talked enough for you to know that this Society is for Good, not evil, is for LIFE and not for death. Antiaging and Longevity are into the Mainstream now, as you all know. So it is our choice to pick what future we want NOW, while we still have a choice. I have made my choice. What about You?
Love, Lila B.

#10 Consumer Comment
Nice Try
AUTHOR: S - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 10, 2009
to anybody interested in the truth,I purchased the 1000 page personal book and found it to be the most wordy,boring bunch rubbish I've ever read.I let my wife read it because she is a very respected business person and well known in the community,she had one word for it-SCAM!.After reading these other responses it is obvious they are form the society.Reading other postings I found positive rebuttals worded exactly the same using different names.Nice try society I'm not buying a word of it.

#9 Consumer Suggestion
refund check bogus
AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 30, 2008
I hope this posts next to my previous for those defending the"society". Bank of America checked the accoint number on my "refund check". They checked all 50 states. Please take note the account does not exist. the check is a FRAUD.I was surprised that they would take the time to print and mail a bogus refund check for $20-but they did! I will also post this as a direct complaint to ad to the information against this group.

#8 Consumer Suggestion
received refund check
AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 30, 2008
This is not exactly a rebuttal, but I apprecated what Willaim shared and wanted to say "thanks". I like to poke into things and do some of my own investigating and did so with "the secret socitey". I confess it would have been good to do a google search, but am still a lot low-tech...I really did not believe a secret society would recriut this way and suspected some type of "self help material" less than advertised but not totally unusable perhaps. I am opposed to secrecy of secret societies...including the Masons, Skull and Bones...etc., but wanted to see what this was about. I mailed $20, and wrote a letter explaining I suspected it was a scam. If it was they would take the $20 deposit and run. If they were honest, I requested they send the $140 secret book and I would mail the balance. I challeged the scam, that if that is what it was, they would, in fact, be much better off in the end not doing such things. After a month and half of nothing I pretty much wrote off the $20, but today I received a refund check on a Bank of America account from the "society". No letter or note, just an envelope with the check. I have yet to deposit it, if it turns out bad, I will post again, but it seems unlikely they would trouble themselves to mail a bad check. The authorized signatur on the check is not very legitable but I think I can make out the last and will check the account info before I deposit or cash it.
From what Willaim shared, I would be oppposed to this "philosophy" especially its anti-God philosphy. It is a deceptive and tricky way to market such information, but it is not unlike a lot of junk you can buy at a bookstore.
Since they sent my $20 back, I suggest for anyone wanting to, to makin an open request for a refund if you payed and are dissapointed, tell tem why, make nice threats about calling your attorny general, BBB, etc, perhaps they will respond with a check.

#7 Consumer Comment
Nouveau Tech's Secrets Finally Brought to Light
AUTHOR: Only Alice - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 04, 2008
While doing some summer house cleaning, I came across my own 1000 page copy of Nouveau Tech Package of Inside Secrets. Instead of throwing it away immediately, I decided to research this subject. I have spent most of the night reading the different posts associated with this subject. I was prepared to write an extensive essay about my limited heirloom package when I finally came across your explanation of the contents. I appreciate your accuracy in describing this material. I have every letter the Society has written to me. I was curious about the secrets, so I willingly sent them the required monies to discover what their society was all about. I willingly read the information they supplied. I did find it life changing in its own way. While the information on organization was good, I decided this was not a path I wanted to or could continue to travel on. therefore, I have not made any additional contact with them. I was offended that anyone would want me to denounce God and become an atheist. There are people who can believe in God and accept full responsibility for the choices and decisions they make in life. I already believe in the power of the spoken word and was taught creative visualization as a child. Was I ripped off? I received the product I ordered, therefore, I didnot request a refund. Thanks for bringing what this media is about to light without bickering and bashing anyone else for their choices. Alice Mabank, Texas

#6 Consumer Comment
Kevin, is that you?
AUTHOR: Chandra - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 09, 2008
This sounds like it was typed by the wonderful scam artist Kevin Trudeau himself. Priceless? Not according to all of Mr. Trudeau's victims. Buyer beware.

#5 Consumer Comment
Ripoff? Far from it. One of the best books ever written. Nouveau Tech Society's books are priceless.
AUTHOR: Common_sense - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 22, 2008
Hi fellow consumers:
I own some of the Neo Tech books, and I can sincerely tell you that they are some of the most informative and enlightening books out there. Buying the Neo Tech Discovery is truly one of the best decisions I've ever made. It changed my life drastically for the better.
Just like you, I received in the mail the outrageous-sounding advertising promising incredible riches, prosperity, love etc. from the Nuoveau Tech Society (or Neo Tech Society or Society of Secrets, etc.). At first, I thought: this is crazy, there's no way these people know anything about me, this is probably just some kind of "get rich quick" ripoff scam. Plus, I thought it was really suspicious that they tell you to send them payment for the "heirloom package" within a week or they won't offer you it again. Also, I thought it was quite expensive - over $100 for a book that I've never heard of before. Basically, I had serious doubts about their offer, just like you do now.
However, I thought about it for a few days, and after reading an introductory pamphlet they sent me for free, I decided I'd like to hear more of what they had to say. After reading the first "installment", "The Neo Tech Discovery", I had mixed, but overall positive feelings about it, and I thought that it was a very important work and well worth the money. After reading it again and implementing some of its concepts, Actually, knowing what I know now thanks to Neo Tech, I would gladly pay hundreds, even thousands of dollars for the Neo Tech Discovery. I know that sounds insane, but if you read their literature with an inquisitive and rational mind and try doing what they recommend, there's a good chance you will eventually feel the same as me. It may take time for it all to sink in though, as we are all surrounded by many negative influences that cloud our minds and stunt our intellectual development.
As for why I had mixed feelings about their book at first, well, I was sort of turned off by how they are not fans of any kind of religion and mysticism, be it Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, astrology, I ching, palm reading, etc. I grew up a devout Christian. I am very familiar with Christianity and Buddhism from formal study as well as personal experience. I got saved and baptized in church when I was five years old, and I went to church almost every Sunday till I was about seventeen.
Later on, while I attended a Christian college, I decided to explore my interest in religion in general. I studied Buddhism and experienced a Buddhist society firsthand for about a year as an exchange student in Thailand. As the beliefs of Buddhism are, at least on the surface, radically different from those of Christianity, I believe I gained a wealth of important knowledge about the nature of religion and religiosity from this experience. Back in college in America, I also had lengthy discussions on religion with several devout followers of Islam. Until about ten years ago, I was a dedicated Christian myself, and I sometimes witnessed to people I knew who were troubled in some way. In short, for most of my life, I have been surrounded by deeply Christian family members, friends, teachers and others, and I have wide knowledge and experience concerning the major world religions from personal experience and formal study.
I'm sure there will be devout religious people who read this and many may be turned away by it - by my sincere, informed opinion of Neo Tech. The point of the above paragraphs on my religious experience is not at all to brag that I have a lot of knowledge about religion. It is only to assure you that I do indeed understand where you are coming from, because I came from the same place. It was my years of religious upbringing (or brainwashing, you might say), albeit from well-intentioned, friendly people whom I love dearly, that made me want to reject Neotech upon first encounter.
You may be influenced by your own religious beliefs to scorn Neotech and label it as a "scam" after reading about it on the internet. There are many negative posts about it, many of which are obviously religion-influenced and some are by people who have never read the book. The Wikipedia entry on Neotech creator Frank R. Wallace is arguably biased - it presents facts, mostly negative ones about the late author and scientist, but it leaves out many positive facts about him. That article needs editing.
Well, back to the book. Simply put, It changed my life for the better. The fantastic claims they make are actually honest and sincere. The important thing their book gives you is a new way of thinking about yourself and the world around you. Once you change your thinking the way they teach you to, it will open up a whole new world for you, and you will immediately benefit, like they say in their advertising letters. The amount you will benefit depends on your own effort though. This is not about getting a free lunch. It's about showing you how to become a focused, goal-oriented, rational thinking, energetic, healthy, benevolent person with high, earned self-esteem who loves and has respect and compassion for his fellow human beings. But there's much more to it than that, as you'll discover when you read the book.
Most importantly, the three guiding principles of the philosophy of Neotech are:
1. No individual person, group, or government may initiate force or fraud against another individual, group or government.
2. The use of force is only moral and can only be justified when it is used in self-defense.
3. There can be no exceptions to rules 1 and 2.
You see, in contrast to what some have implied on this website, Neotech is not about being a selfish brute who tramples over anyone in his way.
There are well-defined, logical concepts of morality and sin in Neotech. If you read their book, you will also see for yourself how Neotech even applauds Jesus Christ as one of mankind's greatest individuals who ever lived because of his peaceful strategy of raising the consciousness of his people so they could resist the oppression they were under from parasitic rulers.
Neotech is a totally peaceful, a totally rational philosophy. Also, it doesn't advocate sodomy, promiscuous sex, or homosexuality. Neotech advocates sensible, decent, rational, healthy sexual relations between adults who are mature enough to make informed decisions. While homosexuality is not condemned harshly like religions condemn it, Neotech gives a logical explanation of why homosexuality exists, and why its practice should be avoided.
And Neotech is in no way whatsoever advocating anarchy. They teach that government can be beneficial if it is a rational, business-oriented government that has as its only priority the protection of the life and property of human beings. As a side note, why not instead consider the current government/political system - isn't it anarchic the ridiculous crimes and abuses of civil rights our own "elected leaders" can get away with? Many of our leaders are out of control. On the other hand, Neotech demands government that is responsible, protective, and therefore beneficial to its citizens. That is not anarchy.
As for the personal benefits that I achieved very soon after reading The Neo Tech Discovery:
1. I quit smoking cigarettes.
2. I overcame alcoholism (I used to get drunk almost every day! But I didn't have a single drink for over two months soon after reading Neotech. Now I am in control of myself and I only drink occasionally, and moderately when I want to.)
3. I lost interest in junk food and in eating more food than necessary. And as a result...
4. I lost 13 lbs. (I went from a 34 inch waist to a 31 in three months.)
5. Gained a revitalization of my former intense interest in learning that I had as a twenty year old.
6. I became much more productive in my day job and in personal business projects.
7. I quit gambling. (I used to play poker online compulsively.)
8. I started (and continue) exercising regularly.
Neotech not only teaches you how to get on the expressway to great wealth, health, prosperity, and love, it also teaches you why it is natural for everyone to live the life of their dreams, and why most people in this civilization fail to do so. Knowing the reasons for both is very important. This is the core of Neotech and the cure it offers this diseased world plagued with irrationality. Everyone should have this knowledge, and, thanks to the multi-decade efforts of Dr. Wallace Ward (a.k.a. Frank R. Wallace) and his associates (Mark Hamilton, Eric Savage, etc. - all pen names), this wealth of knowledge and understanding is available to you at a truly unbeatable price. Better yet, if you don't want to pay or just can't afford to pay $100+ for a new copy of "The Neo Tech Discovery", you might try searching any well-known online bookseller. I've seen several copies offered online. Incredibly, you can get a used copy for about as much as you'd pay for a six pack of beer, though you might not get the latest edition. Still, reading any edition of the Neo Tech Discovery will be infinitely better than not reading it at all.
The choice is all yours. I can only hope you will give your own mind and Neotech a chance. You will not be disappointed if you do.
Best regards,
AW

#4 Consumer Comment
How can people call something a "RIP-OFF" without purchasing the product!!
AUTHOR: Shawnarae - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 27, 2006
I have purchased the Neo-Tech book and have read the first section on business (just received it) and can see how the techniques outlined in the book can be very benificial to receive financial gain.
Every complaint I have read has come from people who have not purchased the product. I have purchased the book and have NO COMPLAINTS TO DATE! As I read further this may change, but I doubt it (if the system for life improvement is set up similar to the system for business I can see how you can improve many aspects of life)
There are so many self-help guides out there that benefit no one but the Author\Marketer that the few that are benificial get SLAMMED before ever being tried.

#3 Consumer Comment
Nouveau Tech is a good company
AUTHOR: William - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 20, 2006
Actually what I revealed can be found on their website. All you have to do is go to neotech.com and there it is. I didn't reveal anything that Nouveau Tech hasn't already revealed themselves.
The only thing I felt bad about was mentioning things about Nouveau Tech that aren't true. I don't believe they are anrchists. It was simple misinterpretation that can be jusitfied in many different ways. I also felt that I should mention the book because no-one else had gone to the next step and actually purchased the book. The book is on-line not in my house. All you have to do is go on-line and read it. There was someone who purchased the book and made a report about it on this site. This particular person revealed that the book is black with a hardback cover, and your name on the front. I guessed at the rest of the description in my first report.
I used excerpts from the on-line book to describe what may actually be in the book of secrets.
I really don't know all of the secrets, other than what I've read on-line. So if you're really curious about the book of secrets read it on-line before you purchase it. Or you can can purchase it and then read it on-line. Whatever makes you happy.
I did some research on Nouveau Tech and discovered that th

#2 Consumer Comment
Not a very convincing note...
AUTHOR: Eric - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 20, 2006
I happened to read your original report on The Nouveau Tech Society because like most other interested readers, I also received their come aboard letters after sending in for their FREE booklet.
Luckily, I never ordered anything since I've been burnt with many come-ons in the past from similar marketing techniques.
Personally and honestly, I believe (and there's no doubt in mind) that when you wrote the original report you truly felt what you wrote otherwise you would have never felt inclined to write it in the first place. Also, it sure sounds a lot like what I thought it would sound in the first place.
Your apology letter just doesn't convince me. I'm not putting you on the spot or accusing you of lying. What I'm saying is that maybe your 'mistake' wasn't necesarily the misinterpretation of what they meant or whatever else but more the fact that you revealed things they don't want other people to know until they, too, buy their glorious life guide (and source of revenue).
Actually, I'm almost tempted to bet that you were in some way contacted by either an employee or their attorney with some sort of threat if you didn't try to somehow cover the problem you just created for them (in other words... lie!) and state how you 'suddenly realized you made a mistake'.
You may be honestly apologizing (or avoiding prosecution) but unfortunately, it sounds more like somebody's got you running scared.
My sincere apologies if you honestly wrote that on your own and after a true change of heart. However, I can't ignore the smell (sniff, sniff) I got when I read it. I hope for your sake (and to God) I'm wrong!
Regards,
E.T.

#1 Author of original report
Situation Resolved
AUTHOR: William - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 17, 2006
I recently submitted some information about the Nouveau Tech Society, and tried to answer some questions about their book. Well it turns out I was mistaken and this society has been in around for many years. To anyone at Nouveau Tech who may have read my report and was offended, I apologize. I was mistaken about a comment made and that comment was that the Nouveau Tech society believes the Earth was created 4000 years ago.
I apologize about this statement, I misinterpreted the content wrong as well as the whole book. Others may have misinterpreted the content as well. I believe Noveau Tech wants to help people, and maybe their books to members have hidden messages that are only meant for the subconcious mind to pick up. The conscious mind has a tendacy of misinterpreting things. Once again I apologize to anyone that may have been offended by my first report, and anyone who has received an invitation from Nouveau Tech, consider yourselves fortunate.


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