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Complaint Review: Ron Francis Wiring / WIRE WORKS and The Detail Zone - West Islip NY

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Ron Francis Wiring / WIRE WORKS and The Detail Zone John and Scott from Ron Francis aka WIRE WORKS and THE DETAIL ZONE They sold me shoddily designed poorly designed wiring harness for my vehicle and it caused electrical chaos and blew up 2 computers and the guys at Ron Francis/Wire Works,The Detail Zone refuse to pay for the damages incurred from their crap. West Islip NY

*Consumer Comment: Ron Francis' Wiring products are Horrible!

*Author of original report: I will stop when you Ripoffs are dead and buried and you know youre in the wrong.

*Consumer Comment: Would you like some cheese with that whine?

*Consumer Suggestion: Just stop

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I Bought a wiring harness on ebay from a company hocking them there to stay under of the radar of the EPA and scalp business ti increase revenue.

The ad says 7 days, at the 7th day I get an email stating that my harness is backordered and hes sorry ..I got pissed and told him to forget the order and to refund me back my money after he tried being a bigshot telling me to wait or he can just refund my money..

Something didnt sit right by me so I quickly look for the name of the company on the harness and find The Detail Zone was also Wire Works and Ron Francis Wiring all rolled up in one in a tight neat lil bow but didnt think much of it.

I asked about this supposed backlog and was told none existed so I emailed the ebay seller and said Im calling him out on his bluff and I wanted my refund.

As a way to stick it to me they had the UPS driver still deliver the box to me but have the driver quickly say wait this isnt even supposed to be delivered and took the box back after putting it on my dorstep which was recorded on my RING doorbell camera..My UPS driver is a car buff and gladly told me the poop on what they did and will gladly testify with a sworn deposition and notarized by a notary.

I quickly call Ron Francis to pay directly and to stop the driver saying Ill pay for the harness direct through them and screw the ebay seller out of a commission seeings I got the harness direct $50.00 cheaper too.

I had nothing but issues. I sent emails about the issues but never got a call or a response which I have proof of too.. I called thm today to enlighten then and help them out too by pointing out the issue and in non appreciation for my lengthy research and time to rectify the issue and tell them out of niceness and hopefully they would reciprocate nicely by refunding me back the computer repair cash but instead got told to jump in a river basically and its all on a recording too I made today 12/16/2021...

Issues were that the harness wasnt long enough either.  Im an electrical expert by trade and can cut and add length then solder and shrinkwrap each and every wire which is like 70 wires.

Then the computer I bought from someone on OFFER-UP who tested it before giving it to me blew up so I questioned my ability a lil but diagnostic checks in the harness revealed that Ron Francis installs three ILLEGAL EPA DEFEAT IC's shaped like a Y into the EGR circuit wires to bypass it with another system and it was soldered in wrong so it was removed and an egr system installed.

I also had the computer repaired and beefed-up by a highly skilled tech in Florida....$110.00

All was well after that truck ran beautifully when cold stop at a gasstation shut down and upon restart the engine behaved unlike when first started and seeings it made driving my truck that I just got done putting $20k into not fun to drive I took it home and put it on the driveway..

I found an issue caused by relays failing to provide proper power and effectiveness so I changed the relays and this caused the TPS ans TFI modules to randomly blow out.

Then the computer blew up again so I sent it to Florida again and the guy said it was spiked heavily by something then I told him the wiring harness I was using and he looked up the schematic and told me my problem was FLYBACK VOLTAGE SPIKES.

These are caused by the relays and solenoids plus Ron Francis adds more relays than a typical EEC-IV system ever had without adding schottky diodes to control the higher voltage spike snapback coupled to the voltage snapback exerted on my TFI module by a PURPLE WIRE they add to thesyetem to retard timing and give a burst to the start-up.

I called them today and I even recorded the conversation and the guys answer was to basically go jump in the lake because they sell lots of harnesses and dont have issues with no other customers in a cut n paste answer I got a few times plus others like me probably get the same one too.........

Thats because they put them in KIT CARS THAT GET DRIVEN RARELY UNLIKE MY TRUCK I USE EVERYDAY and also to mention once these people realize why they have electrical gremline through me going to each and every forum to educate the owners of the kitcars with RF's crap installed theyll go bankrupt from all the calls too.....LOL

So Ron Francis /Wire Works and The Detail Zone ...YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED>>>>>>>>>LOL

Heres pics for proof I had my ECU rebuilt plus I can pull up the ebay ads plus get the guy in Fla to give me a deposition too stating these facts. I plan on sueing RF WW and DZ..In small claims court in their state and charge then for the trip and hotel too.

I filed an hour ago online....

I also joined numerous kitcar forums to enlighten people who are having electrical gremlins and have FR WW or DZ harnesses installed in their kitcars where to look how to fix and then call to and yell at those guys at RF WW and DZ too...........


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#4 Consumer Comment

Ron Francis' Wiring products are Horrible!

AUTHOR: Mr DuPont2022 - (United States)

POSTED: Monday, January 17, 2022

I watched the youtube videos and believed the hype about Ron Francis' BlackBox relay block setup. I made the purchase in 2019 for my Stingray Corvette when I converted the car to LS 4.8 w/EFI to expand my electrical system.

I installed the item as explained in the instructions. Item seemed to work well but I had gremlins and had my power window switches fail twice with-in a year then out of nowhere the Ron Francis BlackBox went on the fritz and started smoking and one of the terminals started to melt.

Below are pictures of the unit I bought and a picture of the failure point also a picture of my Corvette I risked burning down installing this product. I wired a couple circuits hot and the box overloaded and started buzzing like a tesla coil. I promptly pulled the battery wire and removed the unit after smelling an acrid smell like burning plastic and pc board.

I called the company and they responded rudely and although Im not as petty as this guy I took the hit on shoddily designed aftermarket parts and now have gone the Keep It Simple Stupid method using individual relays that are diode protected.

The same diode protected relays were recommended and installed by a very knowledgeable wiring guy who wires both OEM vehicles,showcars also racecars and has numerous youtube videos of how he wires up his vehicles using customers cars as the topic.

Had I known this company was as unfeeling and as shady as they appear I might of reported them especially when it could of possibly costing me an irreplaceable customized corvette I have over $20k invested in over a 25year span of owning it.

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#3 Author of original report

I will stop when you Ripoffs are dead and buried and you know youre in the wrong.

AUTHOR: CAM2 - (United States)

POSTED: Monday, December 20, 2021

For a man that has nothing to hide Scott Bowers you had my 1st Amendment Rights taken away from revealing the truth about your shoddy company but guess what you cannot censor me here or with the Pa.Dept of Justice , EPA;-etc.

Plus I also got myself a CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY wanna see his letter he wrote saying I have a very very very strong case against your buddies who thought you had the power.

Oh and when he heard the phone conversation he said you were 1,000,000 times sunk..Call a lawyer and ask them...You fugged up bigtime bigshot........LOL

I only gave you that false sense of that power you temporarily held onto thats slowly disolving. I told you my intentions to your weasley looking little face and if you had nothing to hide you wouldnt of gotten me banned from forums associated to your company to stop the truth from revealed to stop all the hateful phone calls youre gonna get after thet truth is revealed from people just like me wanting something back for all the money their harnesses costed car lovers after the purchase...

I have a News outfit ready to drive over and interview you too....I wanna see how smooth you are answering questions in that expose'..LOL..I said wait til the EPA and Pa Justice Dept rips ya a new one first so they can ask;-How does it feel getting screwed back by someone with a cactus shoved where the sun doesnt shine..

Youre days are numbered Scotty....I saw ya on your vids on youtube...You look and sound like a whiney b***h so you mustve been looking the mirror when you wrote that rebuttal about that whine and cheese for me.....LOL

Im gonna enjoy watching you squirm and your demise then Im gonna laugh all the way to the BANK!!!!!!!...LOL

What I say is truth...You tell lies..All smoke n mirrors..Just like Ford and the TFI debacle...LOL

Dont rush the end so quick and stop challenging me because Im sure right now I mean business and can keep making you look stupid and feel the sting read your new emails...Im sure it burns like salt and acid rubbed into that gaping wound I inflicted inside your mind where I now reside rent free haunting your thoughts and dreams......

Check out your buddy's page I made for him and Factory 5 in Wareham Mass who is a Kitcar manufacturer that illegally builds kitcars with your wiring harnesses that is capable of inflicting death if it already hasnt and the tally has gone up in the component dept...Enclosed is a picture for your eyeballs to feast on............

Enjoy your days til the end of your days as a wiring expert and enjoy the start to huge troubles and humility. 


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#2 Consumer Comment

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

AUTHOR: Brian - (United States)

POSTED: Saturday, December 18, 2021

I just spent 10 minutes of my life reading the incoherent, grammatically challenged babble you’ve posted. So I get this straight, you purchased something that based on what you've posted, you have modified, sent different parts of all over the place to modify, can’t get to work, and now want the vendor to be on the hook to fix, AND the vendor has told you in very clear language to return for a full refund, yet you choose to be a tool and use this service to discredit a business that has offered your money back after you’ve gone and butchered their product. I am pretty sure that this service is not set up as a spite portal, but to report legitimate grievances, which this one isn’t.

I want my 10 minutes back dimwit.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Just stop

AUTHOR: Flint - (Afghanistan)

POSTED: Friday, December 17, 2021

Judging by your spelling and grammar, you are not smart enough to be messing with a vehicle electrical system.  And the vendor offered you your money back.  Why are you still whining about it?

And yes, most aftermarket parts are poorly made crap.  Get ued to it.

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