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Complaint Review: Asset Acceptance - Warren Michigan

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Asset Acceptance zombie debt collector lies harrasses ignores certified letter adjusts credit dates Warren Michigan

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: More Data on AA

*Consumer Suggestion: they can be stopped

*Consumer Suggestion: "M"..Equifax just violated the FCRA..and AA the FDCPA..

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In 2002 had dispute with Sprint over my final bill. I say I owe them nothing. They said I owed them around $180. There resolution was to stop talking and hand me off to collectors.

Asset Acceptance, who seems to specialize in zombie debt collection must have picked it up. I never heard from them but saw them on my credit report. They listed amount as over $200. I disputed the amount while cleaning up my credit report. I got a call from AA. At first the guy was polite, but then starting making up stuff *telling* me that I "must have" run up my bill. He was just pulling ideas out of thin air. His tone and his accusations infuriated me, so I hung up. He called right back and in an angry tone started with "Let me ask you something ..." - at this point I hung up - again.

In June 2005 I sent a certified letter. I included a note about the call, told them I consider this harrassment and to only write. I demanded documentation. I never heard back.

My only response was another collection agency (FBCS) trying to collect on their behalf in November 2005. The letter said "We have contacted our client and they have agreed to accept $156.80 at this time." Notice the last three words. It doesn't say it would be the final bill. Just "at this time."

I complained to Equifax that they never provided me with documentation. Equifax sent me back a letter saying they investigated it and were satisfied. I called Equifax to demand that they tell me what documentation they had. They told me they have no documentation. Since AA is "member" - they just take their word for it! So this is how AA gets away with it. They take advantage of the fact that Equifax does nothing to police their data. To me this is a major hole that needs to be plugged and probably the source of most peoples frustration. Maybe we should all sue Equifax.

I pointed out to Equifax that AA keeps pushing up the amount and pushing up the dates. This is despite the fact that the only contact has been the harrassing phone calls and my certified letter and some letter from FBCS. I'm not stupid enough to give them even a partial payment since they refuse to verify the debt.

I tried to complain some more, but Equifax sent me a letter saying that all further disputes on this issue will go unanswered. How is this fair? What recourse does a consumer have if Equifax protects and refuses to police the rogue credit agencies that they are dealing with.

I shouldn't find this surprising. When I took the initiative to police my credit report a few years ago, I found *several* mistakes that I made them fix. The one they refuse to resolve is AA. Which I just don't understand.

Yes, I tried the usual bit of filing with the FTC. That of course did nothing. I'm sure AA just laughs at that. They are abusing the system and know all the holes. If they know Equifax won't police them, what's to stop them from continuing with their tactics?

M.
Beverly, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

More Data on AA

AUTHOR: M. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 02, 2006

I decided to get my annual free credit report and see what AA has on my Experian acct, which gives more detail then other reports:

ASSET ACCEPTANCE LLC
This item is currently being investigated.

Original Creditor: SPRINT PCS

Status: Collection account. $214 past due as of Jun 2006.

Date Opened: 01/2005

Type: Installment

Reported Since: 03/2005

Terms: 1 Months

Date of Status: 03/2005

Monthly Payment: $0

Last Reported: 06/2006

Responsibility: Individual

Credit Limit/Original Amount: $203

High Balance: NA

Recent Balance: $214 as of 06/2006

Recent Payment: $0

This is a dispute over something from 2002 for $180. How can they claim it was "opened" on 1/2005 ? Now they've incremented it yet again. Now we're up to $214? For a single zombie debt from 2002, can any of this be valid? Which date "resets" the seven year limit? Is this legal?

I will look into the suggestions on what to do next with Equifax. It's too bad they've decided to take the low road. If they simply did their job and policed their data, there would be no need for this.

I already sent a certified letter to AA in June of 2005. They ignored it. I think I read on another site/thread that Equifax refuses to accept certified letters. They shouldn't be allowed to take on a fortress attitude. I really think they are the source of the problem. Companies like AA just take advantage of their laziness.

Thanks for the advice. For some reason it didn't occur to me that Equifax might even be in violation for telling me to get lost. It's good to know.

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they can be stopped

AUTHOR: Judy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 02, 2006

Asset Acceptance will back off when pressed to the wall.

Go on ACAinternational.org, of which they are a member.

Send faxes to all locations disputing the debt.

Get a complaint form from ACA and fax that to AA too. And file a complaint with the FTC- you will need copies of faxes and correspondence. Good luck-I have been victorious over them already in many occcasions

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"M"..Equifax just violated the FCRA..and AA the FDCPA..

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 02, 2006

"M",

When dealing with Equifax you ned yo be very concise, and directly quote the FCRA. They are in direct violation of the FCRA, as you have a legal right to see what confirmation was provided to them, and by whom.

That attitude they have of "all further disputes will go unanswered" will work in your favor when they apply this attitude when the summons is served. Then you get the default judgement when you sue them for the blatant FCRA violations.

Go to ftc.gov and read and print out the FDCPA and the FCRA. Then go to budhibbs.com and read all about the illegal activites of Asset Acceptance and also to get all current contact information. While there go to the NACA link and contact an Attorney in your area who specializes in these matters and get that lawsuit filed right away against Equifax.

Also prepare a "debt validation" request to Asset Acceptance and/or whomever is currently collecting on this "debt, where you clearly dispute the debt and DEMAND to see something you signed WITH THEM and an account history. Send this by certified mail, return reciept requested, and be sure to put the certified# on the letter itself and keep a copy for your records.

These are junk debt buyers who pay far les than 1 cent on the dollar for a debt of this age and type. Usually 1/10th of 1 cent in a portfolio purchase.

They must prove you owe THEM the money AND that THEY have the legal right to the debt, which means they must provide proof they purchased it, and from whom, and for how much!

When they fail to respond, you just supply the certified letter and proof of mailing to Equifax and/or the court and demand it be removed. And this will guarantee your win on the lawsuit.

Good luck!

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