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Report: #409343

Complaint Review: Bullsballs, John Saller, John Beaman - Williams Arizona

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  • Reported By: Albuquerque New Mexico
  • Bullsballs, John Saller, John Beaman
    219 E Rt 66 Unit G
    Williams, Arizona
    U.S.A.

Bullsballs, John Saller, John Beaman price fxing, mail fraud, false advertising Williams Arizona

*Consumer Comment: John Saller, bulls balls jaydee salles, still Frauds, criminal impersonators, cowards

* : Beaman and Saller of BULLS BALLS truck nutz continue their dishonest deceptions

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Kenneth Ham and David Ham Ignore Cease and Desist letter

*Author of original report: John Saller, Price fixing bulls balls from 1-6-07 decide for yourselves!!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Price Fixing, Mail Fraud, False Advertising Posts by Kenneth Ham, David Ham from allthenutz.com and yournutz.com are Lies and Complete Fabrications.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: You have been answered, multiple times.

*Author of original report: bulls balls john saller **FRAUDS** criminal impersonation for PRICE FIXING & defamation

*Consumer Suggestion: Bullsballs.com owner caught red handed in a lie **John D Saller**

*Author of original report: Saller Criminal statutes AZ violations beware of saller and his co-conspirator beaman

*Consumer Comment: bulls balls, john saller, john beaman, texas trucker, don in key largofrauds ****

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: allthenutz.com site down for a day while updating information regarding Bait & Switch Tactics

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Kenneth Ham Does it Again!

*Author of original report: bulls balls, john saller, john beaman, texas trucker, frauds ****

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Ken and/or David Ham-Owner(s) of allthenutz.com, practicing "Bait and Switch Tactics.

*Author of original report: bulls balls, john saller, john beaman, texas trucker, frauds ****

*Consumer Comment: Kenneth Ham, alias consumer still at loss and caught up in his own lies.

*Author of original report: bulls balls ripoff Saller Beaman create fruadulent allegations.... defamation

*Consumer Comment: I Know All About This Feud and Bait & Switch Tactics By The Ham Brothers at allthenutz.com

*Author of original report: bulls balls bullsball.com Saller and Beaman speak from forked tongue

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hamm Brothers, Kenneth alias Consumer - Owners of yournutz.com & allthenutz.com

*Author of original report: bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

*Author of original report: bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

*Author of original report: bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

*Author of original report: bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

*Author of original report: bulls balls ripoff Saller Beaman et al

*Consumer Comment: Kenneth and David - Guilty of defamation. Here are the laws you are breaking:

*Author of original report: Bulls balls John Saller John Beaman, their dealers and merchant services "conspiracy"

*Author of original report: bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Kenneth and David Ham - Owners of yournutz.com and allthenutz.com websites

*Author of original report: Bulls Balls Moving forward gaining evidence

*Author of original report: bulls balls & Saller want your sympathy

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: The name they call these type of low life's is "Keyboard Cowards".

*Author of original report: bulls balls saller update

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: One or the other, or most likely both are just sad individuals with sociopath backgrounds.

*Author of original report: tombyll plastics Inc.,JOHN SALLER John Beaman**CA ATTNY General Investigation info***

*Author of original report: Saller fraud, another lie exposed!!!!!!!!!!!

*Author of original report: BULLS BALLS, truck nuts, john saller, john beaman crimminal acts

*Author of original report: bulls balls, saller, beaman, co-cospirators to defraud the public

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Brothers are LIARS !

*Author of original report: BULLS BALLS, FRAUDULENT BUSINESS PRACTICES.

*Consumer Comment: Madoff, Blagojevich, Saller, Birds of a Feather

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Kenneth is a LIAR! There is NO 'price fixing, mail fraud, false advertising' as stated by Kenneth Ham.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hamm Brothers - Their Latest Malicious Attack...

*Author of original report: bulls balls, truck nuts, John Saller

*Author of original report: bulls balls, truck nuts, John Saller

*Author of original report: bulls balls, truck nuts, John Saller

*Author of original report: Saller, bulls balls, truck balls, truck nuts williams az

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This guy operates an internet company selling truck balls, I signed up to be a dealer sent in the money and now he says he didnt get my postal money order. He also e-mailed that he wont sell if I dont match his price. This guy has a felon conviction for assult with a deadly weapon, he doesn't return calls. I am filing a complaint with the postal inspectors. On his website he specifically requires that you match his prices. I contacted some of his curent dealers and they say the same thing that they have an agreement not to sell for less than his posted price or he wont sell to them. Has anyone else purchased any of these or know about this guy?

Consumer
Albuquerque, New Mexico
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

John Saller, bulls balls jaydee salles, still Frauds, criminal impersonators, cowards

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, May 23, 2009
John D. Saller and John R Beaman Ignore Cease and Desist Letter

RE: Defamation, Fraud, Theft, Criminal impersonation

Dear Sirs:

As you are no doubt aware, Yournuts.com is a leading supplier of novelty truck accessories sold under the federally registered trademark Your nutz.

It has come to our attention that you are engaged in a variety of tortious activities directed at Yournutz, apparently in connection with your sale of novelty truck accessories. We have two primary areas of concern.

First, it appears that you are using Yournutz registered trademark which has been assigned serial number by the United States Patent and Trademark Office

, and confusingly similar marks, to advertise your competing products. Additionally, we believe that John d Saller has registered the email address bigrigtex@gmail.com and donwilsonflorida@gmail.com, in an apparent effort to direct sales inquiries intended for yournutz to him. Use of yournutz registered trademark in the metatags for your web sites has the effect of directing individuals searching the internet for yournutz to your competing sites.

All of these actions constitute federal trademark infringement under 15 U.S.C. §1114(a) and for false designations of origin under 15 U.S.C. §1125(a), which subjects you to liability for damages including recovery of your profits, yournutz damages, and attorney's fees and costs under 15 U.S.C. §1117(a). Attorney's fees are available ‘in trademark infringement cases where the acts of infringement can be characterized as malicious, fraudulent, deliberate, or willful.' Rio Props., Inc. v. Rio Intern. Interlink, 284 F.3d 1007, 1023 (9th Cir. 2002) (upholding award of attorney's fees under § 1117(a) based on allegation that defendant acted ‘knowingly, maliciously, and oppressively, and with an intent to … injure'); see also Earthquake Sound Corp. v. Bumper Indus., 352 F.3d 1210, 1219 (9th Cir. 2003) (holding ‘issue is not necessarily one of bad faith: willful or deliberate infringement will suffice'). An award of attorney's fees is also appropriate when an infringer has been given written notice of infringement and nevertheless continues to disregard a party's trademark rights. You may additionally be subject to liability under a variety of state trademark and unfair competition theories as well.

Second, it appears that both of you have routinely posted false and libelous material regarding yournutz and allthenutz,, on various third party websites. For example, someone representing himself only as a bigrigtex and donwilson florida has posted a screed on http://www.ripoffreport.com alleging that yournutz is engaged in ‘price fxing [sic]‘,'mail fraud' and bait and switch ‘false advertising'. In a string of posts following the original post, ‘consumer' correctly and acurately refers to Mr. Saller as ‘arrogant', ‘dishonest', a ‘co-conspirator', a ‘coward', and someone who engages in ‘fraud and deception'.(((Redacted))) (((Redacted))) and (((Redacted))). It appears that all of the offending statements are posted by either or both of you in the guise of various disinterested ‘consumers' or ‘anonymous' posters1.

The statements you have posted to various third party sites regarding yournutz allthenutz are false, and appear to be intended to both damage his reputation and his commercial relationships with consumers and/or third party resellers of his products. Accordingly, these statements are defamatory and subject you to civil liability. See State v. Stummer, No. CR-07-0429-PR at paragraph 16, (Arizona 2008) available at http://supreme.state.az.us/opin/pdf2008/CR070429PR.pdf. Additionally, the statements intended to damage yournutz business relationships are actionable under the tort theory of injurious falsehood in Arizona. See Fillmore v. Maricopa Water, 120 P.3d 697 (Ariz. App. 2005). There are other legal causes of action available to yournutz as well, such as intentional infliction of emotional distress. Additionally, by masquerading as anonymous third party ‘consumers' on various third party boards, you are violating the terms of use under which you are permitted to post to those third party boards. Your behavior may subject you to liability to these third parties, and may constitute a civil and criminal violation of the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act 18 U.S.C. 1030 et seq.

This letter provides you with formal written notice demanding that you immediately cease and desist making false and injurious statements regarding yournutz, allthenutz and the owners products and business on the internet or elsewhere. Moreover, you are advised to immediately cease and desist infringing use of the yournutz trademark, any other yournutz trademark, and any confusingly similar trademark, in connection with your goods and/or services, including removing yournutz from your websites and metatags thereto.

yournutz hopes that the parties can resolve their differences without resorting to litigation. Nevertheless, yournutz is fully prepared to protect its rights. Since your wrongful and libelous behavior appears to be escalating on an almost daily basis, you are advised to take the following actions no later than Monday, February 9, 2009, to avoid a lawsuit being filed against you and your company: (1) delete all references to yournutz or any similar reference from your websites; (2) cancel your registration and use of bigrigtex@gmail.com donwilsonflorida@gmail.com; and (3) cease any further posting of derogatory and defamatory statements on the internet.

If you have any questions regarding this matter, please contact me no later than February 9, 2009.

Sincerely,

yournutz.com

DC:kt

This is the latest posting to myself, John D. Saller, owner of BullsBalls.com . Stay tuned for further updates regarding the pending legal action against me for my criminal behavior


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#2

Beaman and Saller of BULLS BALLS truck nutz continue their dishonest deceptions

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 01, 2009
The truth about John beaman and John saller of BULLS BALLS truck nutz ...the first has been issued a harrasment restaining order and the other is a convicted violent felon... read on

What would you say if you came across a company that publishes on their website that if you sell their truck nuts for less that the prices they sell for they will not ship any future orders? That was posted on their site for almost two years until they were called on it. Then they changed it to you can set your price as in the past? But in the past, they fixed the price. Then they deny that dealers of theirs conspire with them to fix prices? I have a copy of a letter sent to TRAILERTOYS, one of their dealers, that states they can NOT discount the price because of the agreement with the manufacturer. That was Jan 09.

Then the owner of the company, John D Saller, created several identities (donwilsonflorida, bigrigtex, harry333, and posted lies regarding one of his compettitors. He accused them of identity theft and bait and switch. We have documented IP adresses proving that it came from the owner of Bulls balls. Received: from BBBHCOFFICE (unknown [71.36.165.21])
(Authenticated sender: bullsballs@qwestoffice.net)
The above IP address has been used to post under the created names by John D Saller of BullsBalls and Jaydee sales llc in
AZ. Additionally, by masquerading as anonymous third party
consumers on various third party boards, John D Saller is violating the terms of use under which he is permitted to post to those third party boards. John D Saller at bullsballs.com and Jaydee sales llc.s
behavior may subject them to liability to these third parties, and may
constitute a civil and criminal violation of the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act 18 U.S.C. 1030 et seq.

What would you do? Well for one I would stay away from that site. The owner has breached his contract of privacy, and the web master John R Beaman of the wwwebfactory stated he had no privacy on his site that runs the checkout for sales. HMMM, Beaman gets all the personal and credit info and provides ZERO privacy.

Well, since Saller has committed felonies in my opinion, so a criminal complaint has been filed. States attorney generals have been notified and the investigation is underway.

As you can see and intuitively feel, impersonating someone to post lies about a business is criminal, in AZ it is a felony.

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Kenneth Ham and David Ham Ignore Cease and Desist letter

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, May 08, 2009
Kenneth Ham
David Ham

February 4, 2009

By Certified Mail,

Return Receipt Requested

U.S. MAIL and FAX

Kenneth Ham
PO Box 94991
Albuquerque NM 87199-4991

David Ham
10953 Ramsgate Drive
Santee, CA 92071-2824

RE: Trademark Infringement and Defamation

Dear Sirs:

Our law firm represents JayDee Sales, LLC ("JayDee"), a limited liability
company organized under the laws of the State of Arizona with a principal
place of business in Williams, Arizona. As you are no doubt aware, JayDee is
a leading supplier of novelty truck accessories sold under the federally
registered trademark Bulls Balls.

It has come to our attention that you are engaged in a variety of tortious
activities directed at JayDee, apparently in connection with your sale of
novelty truck accessories. We have two primary areas of concern.

First, it appears that you are using JayDee's registered trademark "Bulls
Balls", which has been assigned serial number 78723552 by the United States
Patent and Trademark Office, and confusingly similar marks, to advertise
your competing products. For example, the website www.allthenutz.com,
registered by Mr. David Ham, includes references to "Bull Balls", which is
confusingly similar to JayDee's federally registered trademark.
Additionally, we believe that Mr. David Ham has registered the email address
bullsballsinfo@gmail.com, in an apparent effort to direct sales inquiries
intended for JayDee to him. Finally, we note that "bull balls" appears in
the metatags of www.allthenutz.com, and in the metatags of www.yournutz.com,
registered by Mr. David Ham. Use of JayDee's registered trademark in the
metatags for your web sites has the effect of directing individuals
searching the internet for "bulls balls" to your competing sites.

All of these actions constitute federal trademark infringement under 15
U.S.C. 1114(a) and for false designations of origin under 15 U.S.C.
1125(a), which subjects you to liability for damages including recovery of
your profits, JayDee's damages, and attorney's fees and costs under 15
U.S.C. 1117(a). Attorney's fees are available "in trademark infringement
cases where the acts of infringement can be characterized as malicious,
fraudulent, deliberate, or willful." Rio Props., Inc. v. Rio Intern.
Interlink, 284 F.3d 1007, 1023 (9th Cir. 2002) (upholding award of
attorney's fees under 1117(a) based on allegation that defendant acted
"knowingly, maliciously, and oppressively, and with an intent to ...
injure"); see also Earthquake Sound Corp. v. Bumper Indus., 352 F.3d 1210,
1219 (9th Cir. 2003) (holding "issue is not necessarily one of bad faith:
willful or deliberate infringement will suffice"). An award of attorney's
fees is also appropriate when an infringer has been given written notice of
infringement and nevertheless continues to disregard a party's trademark
rights. You may additionally be subject to liability under a variety of
state trademark and unfair competition theories as well.

Second, it appears that both of you have routinely posted false and libelous
material regarding John Saller, a principal of Jay Dee, on various third
party websites. For example, someone representing himself only as a
"consumer" from Albuquerque has posted a screed on www.ripoffreport.com
alleging that John Saller is engaged in "price fxing [sic]","mail fraud" and
"false advertising". In a string of posts following the original post,
"consumer" variously refers to Mr. Saller as "arrogant", "dishonest", a
"co-conspirator", a "coward", and someone who engages in "fraud and
deception". Moreover, it appears that this is a consistent and widespread
pattern, as identical rants can be found on various other third party
websites, including by way of example only, (((Redacted))). It
appears that all of the offending statements are posted by either or both of
you in the guise of various disinterested "consumers" or "anonymous"
posters1.

The statements you have posted to various third party sites regarding Mr.
Saller are false, and appear to be intended to both damage his reputation
and his commercial relationships with consumers and/or third party resellers
of his products. Accordingly, these statements are defamatory and subject
you to civil liability. See State v. Stummer, No. CR-07-0429-PR at paragraph
16, (Arizona 2008) available at
http://supreme.state.az.us/opin/pdf2008/CR070429PR.pdf. Additionally, the
statements intended to damage JayDee's business relationships are actionable
under the tort theory of injurious falsehood in Arizona. See Fillmore v.
Maricopa Water, 120 P.3d 697 (Ariz. App. 2005). There are other legal causes
of action available to Mr. Saller as well, such as intentional infliction of
emotional distress. Additionally, by masquerading as anonymous third party
"consumers" on various third party boards, you are violating the terms of
use under which you are permitted to post to those third party boards. Your
behavior may subject you to liability to these third parties, and may
constitute a civil and criminal violation of the federal Computer Fraud and
Abuse Act 18 U.S.C. 1030 et seq.

This letter provides you with formal written notice demanding that you
immediately cease and desist making false and injurious statements regarding
Mr. Saller, JayDee and JayDee's products and business on the internet or
elsewhere. Moreover, you are advised to immediately cease and desist
infringing use of the "Bulls Balls" trademark, any other JayDee trademark,
and any confusingly similar trademark, in connection with your goods and/or
services, including removing "Bull Balls" and "Bulls Balls" from your
websites and metatags thereto.

JayDee hopes that the parties can resolve their differences without
resorting to litigation. Nevertheless, JayDee is fully prepared to protect
its rights. Since your wrongful and libelous behavior appears to be
escalating on an almost daily basis, you are advised to take the following
actions no later than Monday, February 9, 2009, to avoid a lawsuit being
filed against you and your company: (1) delete all references to Bull Balls
or any similar reference from your websites; (2) cancel your registration
and use of bullsballsinfo@gmail.com, Theofficialbullballswebsite.com,
Thebullballs.com, and Thebullzballs.com; and (3) cease any further posting
of derogatory and defamatory statements on the internet.

If you have any questions regarding this matter, please contact me no later
than February 9, 2009.

Sincerely,

Deanna Conn,
Quarles and Brady, LLP
Attorneys of Law

DC:kt

This is the latest posting from myself, John D. Saller, owner of
BullsBalls.com .
Stay tuned for further updates regarding the pending legal action...



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#4 Author of original report

John Saller, Price fixing bulls balls from 1-6-07 decide for yourselves!!

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 10, 2009
For those following this thread, please note this link from alexa
http://web.archive.org/web/20070211121656/www.bullsballs.com/dealer/signup/info.html
1-6-07
"If you are planning to sell any of our products on-line,
via your own website or any of the many auction websites,
you must match our retail prices as posted on our website(s).
If your prices are lower then ours, WE WILL NOT FILL ANY OF YOUR FUTURE ORDERS."

You will notice quite specifically that saller is refusing to sell if you don't match his price. to me this is per se anti competitive price fixing. He currently now states on his site that :
2-10-09
"In closing, however you as a dealer, may set your prices for any / all of our products that you feel pertinent for your business, whether on-line, retail stores or at special events, as in the past"

He is saying that his policy is no different than in the past, I have email from his dealer that this is still the case.
Well the link to alexa wayback shows what his "policy is" now he calls people liars when confronted with the truth of his fraud here, his defamation here and on his site, and his illegal price fixing.

To me, the FACT that he is claiming that "in the past" his policy was not to fix prices is a LIE and FRAUD. If there is a different way to look at this then I sure don't see it.
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Price Fixing, Mail Fraud, False Advertising Posts by Kenneth Ham, David Ham from allthenutz.com and yournutz.com are Lies and Complete Fabrications.

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 10, 2009
All of the above posts from the Unscrupulous Ham Gang are malicious lies, they should
have received letters from my attorneys by now, it is out of my hands and there will be no more posts from myself. I sincerely apologize to all the viewers for all of this garbage created here and earlier at Amazon.com.

John D. Saller
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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

You have been answered, multiple times.

AUTHOR: Nobull - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, February 06, 2009
The facts were presented to you in multiple emails and rebuttals.If you can't read, and assume I am lying, then you are mistaken.David understands, and so should you. No one is interested in
your continual hate and malicious defamation of character. I see no reason to reply to your diatribe anymore.

-John Beaman
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#7 Author of original report

bulls balls john saller **FRAUDS** criminal impersonation for PRICE FIXING & defamation

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 01, 2009
TO ALL CONSUMERS, DO NOT TRUST BULLS BALLS OR JOHN SALLER OR JOHN BEAMAN, They will breach your trust and use your personal information as they see fit, even in the commission of criminal acts.................

Bulls balls .com and John D Saller, aka Texas Consumer, sonny, I watch for bad people, Well, you never returned e-mails nor answered the questions here, All Saller did was post voluminous amounts of defamation through fraudulent impersonated names and identities here and at other sites on the internet, As seen above Saller made a common criminal error and is NOW FULLY EXPOSED as the fraud he is. Despite contacting his "webmaster" this criminal behavior of Saller continues.

The way I figure, honest people dont need to "create" defamatory lies like Saller, Saller couldnt respond in truth. Because the allegations of his acts are TRUE!!!

I guess they will now "disappear" as the keyboard cowards that they are. They now will answer for their BAD actions.

BTW maybe Mr. Key Largo better keep a better eye on himself and Saller and Beaman because as he says he "watches out for BAD people"

The way I see it, either saller made up these "people" which is a crime. Or his fraudulent defamatory postings were relied upon by others to further his fraud, which is another crime.

I sent you an email Beaman and I conclude by your non response that you are indeed the co-conspirator and responsible jointly with Saller for both your planned deceptions and frauds. I hope you are treated by the Justice system with the same brush that you conduct your business with. So Boys this just may be ending for me and Beginning for YOU!! You should have listened to all the advice you were given!

CHECKMATE
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

Bullsballs.com owner caught red handed in a lie **John D Saller**

AUTHOR: Jd Stole From Me - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
Attention John D Saller. You need to be careful when you make statements that are so easily disproved. That means they are also just as easily proved. And that means they prove you are a liar. Easily pointing out that you make fraudulent statements intended to injure me and my business. Here is what you said in a post dated 1-31 at 10:46,
allthenutz.com site down for a day while updating information regarding Bait & Switch Tactics site was down a couple days ago for several hours,

Well, here is the site uptime report for the time in question. There are no outages at all!


Monitoring stats for: http://www.allthenutz.com


Day Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun Mon Weekly Total
Date 01/20 01/21 01/22 01/23 01/24 01/25 01/26
Outages 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Time on error 00:00 00:00 00:00 00:00 00:00 00:00 00:00 00:00
% Uptime 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0
Connect time 0.11 0.11 0.11 0.11 0.12 0.11 0.11 0.11

Outages- number of times we were unable to access this URL
Time on Error- the total time this URL was not available (hr:min)
% Uptime- the percentage this URL was available for the day
Connect Time- the average time in seconds to connect to this URL



So John since it's now unquestionably proven that your comments about down time are a lies, anything and everything you say is suspect. John I expect your next post to contain an apology to me and the consumers depending on this site for the truth!

David
Allthenutz.com
Yournutz.com
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#9 Author of original report

Saller Criminal statutes AZ violations beware of saller and his co-conspirator beaman

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
I'll try and help you here Saller. Of course this will also help the AZ attorney general and your local DA. Mr John Beaman please take note of the statute for conspiracy.

Both your actions as documented are offensive egregious, and unconscionable, all done to further promote your Anti competitive acts including price fixing and restraint of trade. I THINK I HAVE REACHED THE END!!!! Now it will be up to the LAW enforcement to prosecute. And of course MR H may decide to sue civilly and I'm sure he will end up with a verry nice award.

FELONY #1

13-1202. Threatening or intimidating; classification

A. A person commits threatening or intimidating if the person threatens or intimidates by word or conduct:

1. To cause physical injury to another person or serious damage to the property of another;
B. Threatening or intimidating pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 or 2 is a class 1 misdemeanor, except that it is a class 6 felony if:

1. The offense is committed in retaliation for a victim's either reporting criminal activity or being involved in an organization, other than a law enforcement agency, that is established for the purpose of reporting or preventing criminal activity.

MISDEMEANOR #1 Class 1

13-1203. Assault; classification

A. A person commits assault by:

1. Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causing any physical injury to another person; or

2. Intentionally placing another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent physical injury; or

3. Knowingly touching another person with the intent to injure, insult or provoke such person.

B. Assault committed intentionally or knowingly pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 is a class 1 misdemeanor. Assault committed recklessly pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 1 or assault pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 2 is a class 2 misdemeanor. Assault committed pursuant to subsection A, paragraph 3 is a class 3 misdemeanor.



FELONY #2

13-1602. Criminal damage; classification

A. A person commits criminal damage by recklessly:

1. Defacing or damaging property of another person; or

2. Tampering with property of another person so as substantially to impair its function or value;
B. Criminal damage is punished as follows:
2. Criminal damage is a class 5 felony if the person recklessly damages property of another in an amount of two thousand dollars or more but less than ten thousand dollars.

3. Criminal damage is a class 6 felony if the person recklessly damages property of another in an amount of more than two hundred fifty dollars but less than two thousand dollars.

FELONY #3
13-2002. Forgery; classification

A. A person commits forgery if, with intent to defraud, the person:

1. Falsely makes, completes or alters a written instrument; or

2. Knowingly possesses a forged instrument; or

3. Offers or presents, whether accepted or not, a forged instrument or one that contains false information.

B. The possession of five or more forged instruments may give rise to an inference that the instruments are possessed with an intent to defraud.

C. Forgery is a class 4 felony.

FELONY #4
13-2006. Criminal impersonation; classification

A. A person commits criminal impersonation by:

1. Assuming a false identity with the intent to defraud another; or

2. Pretending to be a representative of some person or organization with the intent to defraud; or

3. Pretending to be, or assuming a false identity of, an employee or a representative of some person or organization with the intent to induce another person to provide or allow access to property. This paragraph does not apply to peace officers in the performance of their duties.

B. Criminal impersonation is a class 6 felony.

MISDEMEANOR #2
13-2203. False advertising; classification

A. A person commits false advertising if, in connection with the promotion of the sale of property or services, such person recklessly causes to be made or makes a false or misleading statement in any advertisement.

B. False advertising is a class 1 misdemeanor.

FELONY #5
13-2308. Participating in or assisting a criminal syndicate; classification

A. A person commits participating in a criminal syndicate by:

1. Intentionally organizing, managing, directing, supervising or financing a criminal syndicate with the intent to promote or further the criminal objectives of the syndicate;
B. A person shall not be convicted pursuant to subsection A of this section on the basis of accountability as an accomplice unless he participates in violating this section in one of the ways specified.

C. A person commits assisting a criminal syndicate by committing any felony offense, whether completed or preparatory, with the intent to promote or further the criminal objectives of a criminal syndicate.

D. Except as provided in subsection E or F of this section, participating in a criminal syndicate is a class 2 felony.

FELONY #6

13-2310. Fraudulent schemes and artifices; classification; definition

A. Any person who, pursuant to a scheme or artifice to defraud, knowingly obtains any benefit by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, promises or material omissions is guilty of a class 2 felony.

B. Reliance on the part of any person shall not be a necessary element of the offense described in subsection A of this section.

C. A person who is convicted of a violation of this section that involved a benefit with a value of one hundred thousand dollars or more is not eligible for suspension of sentence, probation, pardon or release from confinement on any basis except pursuant to section 31-233, subsection A or B until the sentence imposed by the court has been served, the person is eligible for release pursuant to section 41-1604.07 or the sentence is commuted.

D. The state shall apply the aggregation prescribed by section 13-1801, subsection B to violations of this section in determining the applicable punishment.

E. As used in this section, "scheme or artifice to defraud" includes a scheme or artifice to deprive a person of the intangible right of honest services.
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#10 Consumer Comment

bulls balls, john saller, john beaman, texas trucker, don in key largofrauds ****

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
OK John Saller aka Don in key largo... I am going to type real slow so you can understand this... pay close attention

YOU ARE A CRIMINAL FRAUD or the worst type. Rather that compete legally you revert back to your felon mind... You have accused all the nutz of bait and switch by pointing to the "guys" that "called" for "bullsballs". YOu got careless as most stupid criminals do...... Maybe you'll get a spot on "america's dumbest criminals"

Just a heads up for you, this is being passed on to Mr H at his site so he can file criminal charges. You have created a story of "bait and switch" using an assumed name: DON, then you pointed to that and have cut and pasted it all over. You thought it would take a court order to prove your fraud, however as I posted before YOU ARE DUMB!!!

(((Redacted)))

this link is done by DON, I watch for bad people but notice it was posted by bullsballs.com, the next posting is done by the same poster and signed John d saller....

(((Redacted))) his reply to the original poster is done through the same account and it is signed JOHN D Saller.... bingo!!!

Those pages and others have been archived YOU ARE SO SCREWED!!!! DO you want more PROOF or can you smell your own IT NOW!

YOU ARE PROVED TO BE A FRAUD>>>>>>>>>>>


 CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

allthenutz.com site down for a day while updating information regarding Bait & Switch Tactics

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 31, 2009
site was down a couple days ago for several hours, when it came back up all the old cheap prices regarding bulls balls products had been changed to the prices that most sites charge for the products. With all the Noterity regarding using Bait and Switch Tactics at allthenutz.com, I assume they decided to make some changes trying avoid further detection.

Changing prices and small amounts of text is a really simple task. Ed hartel, their webmaster for several years and part-time video actor along with Kenneth seemed to have made a coding error.

All three of these guys can be viewed at yournuts.com, David the egotistical one leads off in all the videos, Ken (tradeshow) also know as 'consumer', the one posts most of the libelous and untrue posts on this site and many other of these types of sites all over the internet viewable there also. Ed hartel goes by his own name.

Anyway, mores lies and slanderous posts will follow this post from the Clan as soon as they review this rebuttal from me.

Stay Tuned:
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#12 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Kenneth Ham Does it Again!

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 30, 2009
EVERYTHING I have posted is true with evidence and first hand knowledge with ABSOLUTE proof.

You are so full of it, if i was in New Mexico, i would smell you...
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#13 Author of original report

bulls balls, john saller, john beaman, texas trucker, frauds ****

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 30, 2009
John Saller bulls balls , john beaman, tex, sonny, et al. Finally you admitted to your Fraudulent postings. As I stated before I have no internet company nor have any interest in any internet company. That makes your postings fraud and defamation.

Mr Saller you have accused allthenutz.com of a serious crime, "bait and switch". I demand you present EVIDENCE that you have personal proof to make that statement. Will you present it here? and you may email it to me also. YOUR PERSONAL knowledge of this alleged criminal act. If it is so, It will be added to my complaint to the AZ and CA attorney generals report and follow up to the FTC. If you do not present PERSONAL proof then your statement is defamation and libel per se .

As I stated earlier, I have nothing to gain financially for my detailed expose of your devious and criminal acts. YOU ARE A CONVICTED FELON! (by your own admission) The states attorney generals and FTC are quite capable of filing any necessary charges against you. You are also in violation of the terms of service here for posting addresses and personal information about your "top competitor" and by posting fraudulent information. It is obvious that all your false statements are made to further your "price fixing scheme" and to further deprive honest consumers of FAIR and HONEST services. for your reference AZ statutes Ch 23 13-2310(A)(E), which is a class 2 FELONY. This is just one or the MANY statutes I believe you are violating.

If you want proof of your price fixing, then email me and I will send you the case # with the AZ attorney generals office and you can request it from them, I'm sure they would love to hear from you!!!! and of course they want to hear from sonny and tex et al.

EVERYTHING I have posted is true with evidence and first hand knowledge with ABSOLUTE proof.

So Johnnies, Just post here that you have NEVER told ANY dealer that they had to match your price! Because if you do, you will be committing another fraud. hmmmm what will you do?

I do wish you could see that accusing people of being sociopaths and then posting traits is defamation meant to injure and ridicule. As I said before you "confess through accusation"

Still waiting for the keyboard cowards sonny, tex consumer etc. to email me to prove that they are indeed not Saller and his co-conspirator Beaman

You mr saller et al have been caught in your own web of lies and the spider of JUSTICE is descending upon you. YOU have been TRAPPED!!!! and you did it to yourselves!
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#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Ken and/or David Ham-Owner(s) of allthenutz.com, practicing "Bait and Switch Tactics.

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 29, 2009
Well, Mister Consumer, alias Kenneth Ham from Albuquerque, New Mexico, you finally told the truth for once, regarding these two sentences.
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Don't you realize law enforcement can trace ALL your posts back to the origin?
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Of course, however you conveniently left out the part about the fact it takes a court order to do so. That is why you hide behind ALL your posts all over the internet spreading your libelous, defamatory lies using aliases.
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This site is fabulous, it is better than ANY deposition!!!!
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You like this site and others like them because you can spread your filth and get away with it until one of us files a lawsuit, we know you won't, because you know you wouldn't stand a chance in Hell winning. As I have stated before, you are nothing more than a "wanna be" lawyer, hanging on to brothers shirttail, to make a living.

Sincerely,
John D. Saller

BTW:

I will give you and your brother David credit for one thing, you and/or him tell lies and twist the truth better then anyone I have ever the misfortune to deal with.

OK, your up Consumer Ken, twist this posting around with your lies and make more of a fool of yourself then you already have.

I know you are not married, however I sometimes wonder if David's wife and kids know about the sociopath type behavior regarding all these posts over the internet for the last few weeks, really sad
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#15 Author of original report

bulls balls, john saller, john beaman, texas trucker, frauds ****

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 29, 2009
Well mr texas trucker, or should I say John Saller, impersonating another to post fraudeulent defamatory posts is actionable. John Saller and his co conspirator, John Beaman are perpetuating a malicious intentional fraud. Making up stories to defame? Well that's their M.O.

Email and posts hve been traced to hmmmmm wiliiams AZ. right around the shop with the fool dressed like a donut. Too bad all the emails cc'd John Beaman who claims no connection. So if Mr tex aka sonny aka I watch for bad people, John Saller want to HIDE , its too late, you are exposed.

Don't you realize law enforcement can trace ALL your posts back to the origin? Wow are you guys that stupid? Wee you guys are dumb!!!!!!

Its was too hard to answer the honest questions posted here? You both are the epitome of what is wrong with my country USA, weasels like you who think they are immune from prosecution and seek to do harm to honest citizens.

If I am incorrect then PLEASE, mr tex trucker, key largo, sonny, email me and I will verify and post here that you are indeed not the same person.

An honest person would do this to clear up any confusion. However, your failure to submit to verification of your anonymous postings will be PROOF that you are indeed ALL John Saller/John Beaman. So guys stick up for your buddy and come forward.

WE Shall wait and see. If indeed you are not Keyboard Cowards then you will assist me in the QUEST FOR THE TRUTH

This site is fabulous, it is better than ANY deposition!!!!
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#16 Consumer Comment

Kenneth Ham, alias consumer still at loss and caught up in his own lies.

AUTHOR: Texas Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 29, 2009
We are truckin buddies and have been buying bulls balls for years and been treated well
at bullsballs.com, we don't like your way of doing business or liars in general. We all use the same content in our postings. No sense in trying to rewrite the truth. I see you have begun to use the term Mr. Saller used regarding you fellers. (Keyboard Cowards) You guys have not said the truth from day one, and seem to be running out of ways to twist your lies around anymore.

Texas Trucker Consumer,
retired and watching out for the "bad guys" like you and your brother David Ham.
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#17 Author of original report

bulls balls ripoff Saller Beaman create fruadulent allegations.... defamation

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 28, 2009
Lets see, Key Largo or Texas post the same fraudulent report, then bullsballs john saller points to this fraud and repeats it, that is so criminal, defamation. It is sad to see the desperate lies of Saller and Beaman. They continue to hide and still refuse to address one instance of fraud posted here. Their most recent fraud, the "bait and switch" is reprehensible and will necessitate reports to law enforcement.. I cant see why they want to bring this onto themselves, every thing they have accused others of is EXACTLY what they are doing. It has been too easy to trap these rats as they jump ship. Who will they blame next for their illegal fraud misrepresentation, false advertising, defamation, and evil acts. Saller and Beaman cant take the light of TRUTH. They had their chance to be honest but chose to be keyboard cowards.
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#18 Consumer Comment

I Know All About This Feud and Bait & Switch Tactics By The Ham Brothers at allthenutz.com

AUTHOR: Texas Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 26, 2009
Hi All,

I have been buying 'bulls balls' type truck balls for years, I get a new truck every year. I am a retired big rig trucker who spends most of my time online, much to my wife's dismay, trying to find interesting things.

The other day I 'googled' bulls balls and found this website, selling the same sets that I have bought in the past from the manufacturer's site. The prices were slashed in price from what I usually paid at bullsballs.com.

I then went to bullsballs.com and checked their prices, they were still the same as they have been for years. I then clicked on a link called Compare Imitators, I've been there a couple of times before, it is page the boys over there put together a few years back comparing the other companies, products, prices and services. Other information under 'updates' tells a pretty sorid story about the Ham Brothers and their lack of business ethics.

According to Information at bullsballs.com, this allthenutz, isn't even a dealer for them, they indicate that they are an Unauthorized Dealer and I knew these were the real bulls balls, so I wondered how they had these balls for sale if they aren't a dealer. So i went back to the manufacturer's site and looked around some more and discovered that these guys must be buying
their balls from some other Authorized Dealer in small quantities and placing pictures and info on their site so that they could get ill gotten
traffic, when people searched for truck balls. By doing this, they seem to be using the trademark bulls balls illegally.

Well, I decided to call allthenutz, get the lowdown and see why their prices are so cheap. After talking to them, and asking if these were the real bulls balls, they said yes. Well, I buy all my stuff online and am always trying save a few bucks, I asked if the chrome and blue bulls balls were in stock, the answer was no, I asked how come it says they were both in stock, I don't
know, I'll check. Somebody else came to the phone and said the webmaster hadn't updated the page yet and he tried to switch me to one of their
smaller nuts.

It was then I really started to get the run around, this person kept trying to get me to buy something else and started to get kind of nasty when I kept saying no, I only want the bulls balls. So I asked about other colors, they
were out stock too. I knew then, I was being had and told him so, he hung up!

Well, combined with what I just read about this company, I decided to call my old trucking buddy and asked him to call and order some, the very same same thing happened to him.

In conclusion, taking into consideration all the bull I read earlier at bullsballs.com and what we experienced over the phone, we agreed, this was
the old 'bait and switch' routine.

So anyway, I went to Bullsballs.com and ordered my balls. After thinking about it for couple of days, my buddy and I decided let people know about this bait and switch operation at allthenutz.com. View their info below:

hanks, Texas Consumer


Helix Specialties
yournutz.com - allthenutz.com
Kenneth and David Ham
10953 Ramsgate Drive
Santee, California
United States
Phone: 888-843-6889
allthenutz.com
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#19 Author of original report

bulls balls bullsball.com Saller and Beaman speak from forked tongue

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 25, 2009
John Saller has described his documented behavior... many times he and Beaman have proclaimed loudly that beaman has nothing to do with the site... hmmmm then why is this posted at the bottom of their web page "All Website Content Designed and Maintained by JayDee Sales, LLC and The WWWeb Factory". Well, let see, the wwwebfactory is owned by John R Beaman and jaydeesales is john saller, so their posted MAINTAINED AND DESIGNED by is either false advertising and a fraud or John Sallers posting here is a lie and fraud to protect his co conspirator... What are we left to believe? hmmmm should we believe the posting rants of a convicted felon, John D Saller, convicted of a VIOLENT felony..... hmmmm thats one of the traits he describes a sociopath including lying.... hmmmm.

I have NUMEROUS documentations similar to the above that these two dangerous persons have been caught in their own lies and deceptions. They haven't provided any proof for their statements and hide in their rooms AFRAID to be men and answer their phones to discuss their acts.

So is the Saller clan committing Fraud and false advertising on their site or are they committing fraud and deception in their postings here.... I certainly could go on but as Saller stated he has received e-mails through his site regarding his request for consumers to email him about anything, and has been sent the proof that a NORMAL business man would understand. And that was protected under privacy and subject to Californias' Privacy Act of 2004 which Saller and beaman were informed of and continue to violate.. thats ongoing illegal behavior.... All of his pages have been archived and documented for absolute proof.. The Saller Beaman Clan are squirming and know their foundation of lies, deceptions and illegal behavior is crumbling.


With people like Saller And Beaman, their lies is what ultimately crushes them... But I'm sure they think they can fool a judge also... they are in for the surprise of their lives!!!! While I stick to the facts they can only continue to defame and libel with 2nd grade name calling, I sure expected more from OLD people!!!! Maybe they are suffering from some of the age diseases, thats the only reason I can see they would be lying so boldly (can't remember the previous lies). The postings they make here sure don't indicate any "intelligent" positions. Well Stay tuned as Saller and Beaman are given more rope and a shovel to dig out of the hole they know they are in.

MORE TO COME
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#20 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Hamm Brothers, Kenneth alias Consumer - Owners of yournutz.com & allthenutz.com

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 25, 2009
Price Fixing, Fraud, False Advertising, Mail Fraud are complete fabrications and therefore libelous LIES by Kenneth Hamm and/or his brother David .

The brothers Hamm, in my opinion, are sociopaths. I have in my Hamm File many dozens of emails over the past years where they "spout" this same type of crap. These claims regarding me, owner of bullsballs.com and Beaman, a webmaster that I farm out some of my work out to and who has nothing to do with my business practices. To say that we are committing "price fixing, fraud, false advertising, mail fraud and conspiracy are pure and unadulterated LIBELOUS LIES.

They have been posting these lies all over the net since December of last year, on sites such as this one and beginning with Amazon.com. Amazon once notified removed and have initiated steps to keep people like these two from spreading their filthily lies.

In the posts above, they made ridiculous claims and even though I asked them to post proof, they have not and cannot because they make them up as they go along.

They own many sites selling the same type of products as I do within this niche market of Truck Balls. One of them, allthenutz.com even has my products available even though he is NOT an AUTHORIZED DEALER, they have tried may times to become one and I refuse, because I do not want to be associated with these type of unethical, lying, unscrupulous people such as the HAM Brothers, who operate accordingly, out of David's garage after ten years of struggle to topple me and my company.

They obtain my products through "Back Door" methods, allowing them to post
pictures and create text on their website, thus allowing them to have their sites come up in search engines when people search for "bulls balls", which is the most often searched set of "key words" used by people looking for this unique and controversial product on Google, Yahoo and MSN and other search engines

Once a potential buyer goes to their site they see our Superior Products, slashed in price, and then , I have often thought, they probably used "bait and switch" tactics to sell their own inferior products'.

The other day, I found a posting, that seems to make my suspicions true, at least in this guys situation and his fellow trucker friend, because of what his posting indicated regarding allthenutz.com using "bait and switch" tactics.

Secondly "bulls balls" is a BullsBalls.com Registered trade mark and they do not have, and never will get my permission to use legally on their sites.

In many of Kenneth's postings, also in two of his threatening voice mails left on my business phone, and one to one of my employees at a different business phone, he verbally threatened her.

He alludes to the fact that he works within the legal community in Albuquerque, NM where he resides and carries on these unscrupulous attacks on me and my company which is nothing more then a successful competitor.

I have long suspected that he is nothing more than a "wanna be" attorney, he probably often wonders why that has not and will never happen

If anybody is not sure what a sociopath is like, all of his malicious postings here and elsewhere are perfect examples of sociopath traits.

I have taken the liberty of including some info on sociopaths below, please pay particular attention to the ones 'bordered' by hyphens:

Profile of the Sociopath

This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the
behavior of sociopaths.

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
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* Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for
them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in,
a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing
and even able to pass lie detector tests.
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* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love

* Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:

1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
3. Authoritarian
4. Secretive
5. Paranoid
6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where
their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
7. Conventional appearance
8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs
their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world


(The above traits are based on the
psychopath checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)

Sincerely,

John D. Saller
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#21 Author of original report

bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 24, 2009
Bulls balls, fraud, false advertising.Well, fortunately the ultimate defense upon accusation of defamation is the TRUTH. John Saller is a CONVICTED FELON, he has stated so publicly. Saller and Beeman are BOTH committing fraud, price fixing, restraint of trade. I have PROOF and will be filing shortly. And Yes, any attorney will see what has happened and this has been atorney reviewed. So yes Saller and Beeman should act professionally and within the law, they refuse. So if anyone has additional information, contact me and we can add you to any class action suits. The fact that innocent consumers are misled here with sallers and beemans deceptions only strenghthen the case AGAINST them.Thank you!!! Any consumer who posted here may contact me and will be sent all the proof so you can see how these guys, Saller and Beeman, have misled and defrauded you with thier fraud and deception.

Thanks!!
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#22 Author of original report

bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 24, 2009
Bulls balls, fraud, false advertising.Well, fortunately the ultimate defense upon accusation of defamation is the TRUTH. John Saller is a CONVICTED FELON, he has stated so publicly. Saller and Beeman are BOTH committing fraud, price fixing, restraint of trade. I have PROOF and will be filing shortly. And Yes, any attorney will see what has happened and this has been atorney reviewed. So yes Saller and Beeman should act professionally and within the law, they refuse. So if anyone has additional information, contact me and we can add you to any class action suits. The fact that innocent consumers are misled here with sallers and beemans deceptions only strenghthen the case AGAINST them.Thank you!!! Any consumer who posted here may contact me and will be sent all the proof so you can see how these guys, Saller and Beeman, have misled and defrauded you with thier fraud and deception.

Thanks!!
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#23 Author of original report

bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 24, 2009
Bulls balls, fraud, false advertising.Well, fortunately the ultimate defense upon accusation of defamation is the TRUTH. John Saller is a CONVICTED FELON, he has stated so publicly. Saller and Beeman are BOTH committing fraud, price fixing, restraint of trade. I have PROOF and will be filing shortly. And Yes, any attorney will see what has happened and this has been atorney reviewed. So yes Saller and Beeman should act professionally and within the law, they refuse. So if anyone has additional information, contact me and we can add you to any class action suits. The fact that innocent consumers are misled here with sallers and beemans deceptions only strenghthen the case AGAINST them.Thank you!!! Any consumer who posted here may contact me and will be sent all the proof so you can see how these guys, Saller and Beeman, have misled and defrauded you with thier fraud and deception.

Thanks!!
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#24 Author of original report

bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 24, 2009
Bulls balls, fraud, false advertising.Well, fortunately the ultimate defense upon accusation of defamation is the TRUTH. John Saller is a CONVICTED FELON, he has stated so publicly. Saller and Beeman are BOTH committing fraud, price fixing, restraint of trade. I have PROOF and will be filing shortly. And Yes, any attorney will see what has happened and this has been atorney reviewed. So yes Saller and Beeman should act professionally and within the law, they refuse. So if anyone has additional information, contact me and we can add you to any class action suits. The fact that innocent consumers are misled here with sallers and beemans deceptions only strenghthen the case AGAINST them.Thank you!!! Any consumer who posted here may contact me and will be sent all the proof so you can see how these guys, Saller and Beeman, have misled and defrauded you with thier fraud and deception.

Thanks!!
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#25 Author of original report

bulls balls ripoff Saller Beaman et al

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 24, 2009
Bullsballs.com bulls balls and co-conspirators Saller and Beaman.

Dear Sonny in San Fransisco: By your post here you are confirming the ability of the Saller clan to defraud, and defame. By your statements it is clear that you too have been defrauded and conned. Thats why they call them CONvicts. Many innocent unsuspecting consumers like you are defrauded every day. That is why I am taking these two clowns down to the level they belong. They are exposed fro the frauds they are, by publishing more deceptions here with the intent to CONvince consumers.

Sonny, you posted "Because your claims of fraud, price fixing and false advertising has been proven wrong here, I thought you might want to see what you are both guilty of:
Sonny, in order to make that statement you are relying on the fraudulent and false informational posts made here by Saller and Beaman, do you have firsthand knowledge that the posts are TRUE? No you don't, because I have factual proof that sallers statements are false. You see sonny, thats why they make you go to school to learn law. You have been duped to posting defamatory statements. Please be VERY careful in your personal dealings, you are too easily fooled. You are the type of person that people like Saller and Beaman prey on. You aren't the first person they have conned. Just be careful in the future. If you want solid proof just email and i'll get it to you.
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#26 Consumer Comment

Kenneth and David - Guilty of defamation. Here are the laws you are breaking:

AUTHOR: Sonny - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 23, 2009
Because your claims of fraud, price fixing and false advertising has been proven wrong here, I thought you might want to see what you are both guilty of:

Definitions of libel on the Web:

* a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person
* print slanderous statements against; "The newspaper was accused of libeling him"
* the written statement of a plaintiff explaining the cause of action (the defamation) and any relief he seeks
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* In English and American law, and systems based on them, libel and slander are two forms of defamation (or defamation of character), which is the tort or delict of making a false statement of fact that injures someone's reputation. "Defamation" is however the generally-used term internationally, and is accordingly used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "libel" and "slander".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel

* Defamation of an individual or individuals in a published work, with malice aforethought. In litigation, the falsity of the libelous statements or representations, as well the intention of malice, has to be proved for there to be libel. In addition, financial damages to the parties so libeled must be incurred as a result of the material in question for there to be an assessment of the amount of damages to be awarded to a claimant. ...
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* Published words or pictures that falsely and maliciously defame a person. Libel is published defamation; slander is spoken.
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* Written defamation that causes injury to another person.
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* Libel is written defamation; untrue words written down as opposed to said aloud.
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* Arnold, FO The Law of damages and compensation. 1913.
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* maliciously damaging someone's reputation in print, as in: When the book came out, the author was sued for libel by three different people.
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* use of print or pictures to harm someone's reputation. Until 1964, a person could prove that they had been libeled simply by showing that the statements in question were incorrect. In 1964, the Supreme Court decided that public officials had to prove that the statements in question were made with "actual malice"-for the purpose of harming the person's reputation. As a result of the Supreme Court case, Time, Inc. v. ...
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* Any written or printed matter tending to injure a person's reputation unjustly.
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* tones down dangerous statements.
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* Any false or malicious written or printed statement that publicly ridicules someone or damages their reputation.
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* Defamation by writing such as in a newspaper or a letter.
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* Malicious publication of a defamation of a person by printing, writing, signs, or pictures, for the purposes of injuring the reputation and good name of such person.
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* Written and published or broadcast statement, which damages someone's character (in a permanent form).
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* Publication of defamatory information. Most General Liability policies cover libel.
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* A tort of defamation through published writings or pictures that are critical of the plaintiff. Compare with Slander.
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* Published or broadcast communication that lowers the reputation of an individual by holding him or her up to contempt, ridicule or scorn.
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* Defamation of person's reputation or character by any type of publication, including pictures or written word.
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* A statement of a criminal charge.
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* written defamatory statements about another.
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* Libel' is the common term for 'defamation'. Defamation is the deliberate writing (libel) or speaking (slander) of untrue information about a person or corporation. Where the spreading of defamatory speech or material causes material damage to those it relates to they may seek legal redress for the damage caused. Libel, and how it is created and prosecuted, is a complex area of law. For the average person it is very difficult to prosecute. ...
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Any lawyer can see you are in deep trouble because of your claiming that BullsBalls, John Saller and John Beaman have committed crimes that have proven to be false in this thread of comments makes you both criminals.

Why not just compete in an adult manner like all others on the net?

Sonny - San Fransisco, CA
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#27 Author of original report

Bulls balls John Saller John Beaman, their dealers and merchant services "conspiracy"

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 19, 2009
Well, the notification process is moving forward, dealers interview, merchant services notifications. Those that wish to be named in the suits can refuse to act according to the law and pay the price. Some see the "crime" and are running the other way. Since there is a definition of legal conspiracy I'll post it so you can read it. These businesses ar being put on notice to allow them to mitigate damages and remove themselves from Beamans and Sallers plans.

CONSPIRACY, crim. law, torts. An agreement between two or more persons to do an unlawful act, or an act which may become by the combination injurious to others. Formerly this offence was much more circumscribed in its meaning than it is now. Lord Coke describes it as "a consultation or agreement between two or more to appeal or indict an innocent person falsely and maliciously, whom accordingly they cause to be indicted or appealed and afterwards the party is acquitted by the verdict of twelve men."
2. The crime of conspiracy, according to its modern interpretation, may be of two kinds, Namely, conspiracies against the public, or such as endanger the public health, violate public morals, insult public justice, destroy the public peace, or affect public trade or business. See 3 Burr. 1321.
3. To remedy these evils the guilty persons may be indicted in the name of the commonwealth. Conspiracies against individuals are such as have a tendency to injure them in their persons, reputation, or property. The remedy in these cases is either by indictment or by a civil action.
4. In order to reader the offence complete, there is no occasion that any act should be done in pursuance of the unlawful agreement entered into between the parties, or that any one should have been defrauded or injured by it. The conspiracy is the gist of the crane. 2 Mass. R. 337; Id. 538 6 Mass. R. 74; 3 S. & R. 220 4 Wend. R. 259; Halst. R. 293 2 Stew. Rep. 360; 5 Harr. & John. 317 8 S. & R. 420. But see 10 Verm. 353.
5. By the laws of the United State's, St. 1825, c. 76, Sec. 23, 3 Story's L. U. S., 2006, a willful and corrupt conspiracy to cast away, burn or otherwise destroy any ship or vessel. with intent to injure any underwriter thereon, or the goods on board thereof, or any lender of money on such vessel, on bottomry or respondentia, is, by the laws of the United States, made felony, and the offender punishable by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars, and by imprisonment and confinement at hard labor, not exceeding ten years.
6. By the Revised Statutes of New York, vol. 2, p. 691, 692, it is enacted, that if any two or more persons shall conspire, either, 1. To commit any offence; or, 2. Falsely and maliciously to indict another for any offence; or, 3. Falsely to move or maintain any suit; or, 4. To cheat and defraud any person of any property, by any means which are in themselves criminal; or, 5. To cheat and defraud any person of any property, by means which, if executed, would amount to a cheat, or to obtaining property by false pretences; or, 6. To commit any act injurious to the public health, to public morals, or to trade and commerce, or for the perversion or obstruction of justice, or the due administration of the laws; they shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor. No other conspiracies are there punishable criminally. And no agreement, except to commit a felony upon the person of another, or to commit arson or burglary, shall be deemed a conspiracy, unless some act besides such agreement be done to effect the object thereof, by one or more of the parties to such agreement.
7. When a felony has been committed in pursuance of a conspiracy, the latter, which is only a misdemeanor, is merged in the former; but when a misdemeanor only has been committed in pursuance of such conspiracy, the two crimes being of equal degree, there can be no legal technical merger. 4 Wend. R. 265. Vide 1 Hawk. 444 to 454; 3 Chit. Cr. Law, 1138 to 1193 3 Inst. 143 Com. Dig. Justices of the Peace, B 107; Burn's Justice, Conspiracy; Williams' Justice, Conspiracy; 4 Chit. Blacks. 92; d**k. Justice Conspiracy, Bac. Ab. Actions on the Case, G 2 Russ. on Cr. 553 to 574 2 Mass. 329 Id. 536 5 Mass. 106 2 D R. 205; Whart. Dig. Conspiracy; 3 Serg. & Rawle, 220; 7 Serg. & Rawle, 469 4 Halst. R. 293; 5 Harr. & Johns. 317 4 Wend. 229; 2 Stew. R. 360;1 Saund. 230, u. 4. For the French law, see Merl. Rep. mot Conspiration Code Penal, art. 89.

A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.

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#28 Author of original report

bulls balls, Saller Beaman price fixing, fraud, false advertising

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 19, 2009
Well, since these two shady persons deny price fixing, I'll post here what I rely on, THE LAW,

16720. A trust is a combination of capital, skill or acts by two or
more persons for any of the following purposes:
(a) To create or carry out restrictions in trade or commerce.
(b) To limit or reduce the production, or increase the price of
merchandise or of any commodity.
(c) To prevent competition in manufacturing, making,
transportation, sale or purchase of merchandise, produce or any
commodity.
(d) To fix at any standard or figure, whereby its price to the
public or consumer shall be in any manner controlled or established,
any article or commodity of merchandise, produce or commerce intended
for sale, barter, use or consumption in this State.
(e) To make or enter into or execute or carry out any contracts,
obligations or agreements of any kind or description, by which they
do all or any or any combination of the following:
(1) Bind themselves not to sell, dispose of or transport any
article or any commodity or any article of trade, use, merchandise,
commerce or consumption below a common standard figure, or fixed
value.
(2) Agree in any manner to keep the price of such article,
commodity or transportation at a fixed or graduated figure.
(3) Establish or settle the price of any article, commodity or
transportation between them or themselves and others, so as directly
or indirectly to preclude a free and unrestricted competition among
themselves, or any purchasers or consumers in the sale or
transportation of any such article or commodity.
(4) Agree to pool, combine or directly or indirectly unite any
interests that they may have connected with the sale or
transportation of any such article or commodity, that its price might
in any manner be affected.

The interpretation of the above is. These two,SALLER and BEAMAN are in a conspiracy to break the law as stated above.. They have been notified and put on notice. So, their denials are LIES, which is to be expected with persons of their dubious character. And YES there are criminal as well as civil penalties. Since I am on a QUEST FOR THE TRUTH, I believe this will be better prosecuted by States Attorney generals. All the civil fines go to the state. And the SALLER and BEAMAN clan along with their "conspiring dealers" can deal with their own potential criminal charges. As the magnifying glass of truth exposes these "fraudsters" I think they are starting to get burned like useless piss ants under the heat of TRUTH.
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#29 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Kenneth and David Ham - Owners of yournutz.com and allthenutz.com websites

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 19, 2009
As always, more lies. The below statement as posted by "Consumer" who is Kenneth/David Hamm:

"They have been repraminded and warned by trust guard about their policies and libel and defamation."

Mr. Ham filed a dispute with Trust Guard claiming that we posted his private information online, but they investigated and determined that his claims were unfounded because they found this information all over the internet. My account is still active and none of our customers have ever filed a dispute with Trust Guard, except David.

The name they call these type of low life's is 'Keyboard Cowards'.

Sincerely, BullsBalls.com
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#30 Author of original report

Bulls Balls Moving forward gaining evidence

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 15, 2009
This Saller guy and his partner john Beaman, still don't get it. They don't reply and just hide like scared girls.... Anyway, their libel continues, as does the violation of privacy. Lets see, one is a convicted felon and the other has a restraining order for harrassment ... They are now exposed. and their world is collapsing quickly. Why these guys want to be sued is beyond me. They have been repraminded and warned by trust guard about their policies and libel and defamation. But I am not done. Persistence pays and Saller will either act like a normal business person or be brought to task. Thanks to my good fortune I am able to pursue this to the end, and I will.

Stay tuned
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#31 Author of original report

bulls balls & Saller want your sympathy

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
It is always amazing how saller and his conspirators now claim to be Victims, maybe victims of their own greed. I guess he knows "keyboard coward". at his site he has taken the time and effort to post private confidential information, defame characters of non-felons, and that is why this forum is a god send. He avoids calls, by his own admission. He publishes on his site a one sided attack that is purely financial motivated. He is one sorry useless eater, he eats peoples time and trust. His day of reckoning is coming and will most likely will claim to be a poor victim, sounds like the Nigerian scam posts,, poor me! anyway documents are in the mail and the sooner he is stopped the better off the internet community will be. BTW since he posted my private e-mail address I am now receiving copious amounts of spam from every objectionable site you can imagine... thanks John..NOT!!

I just want people to see how you "Confess through accusation" An honest business person acting in good faith and within the law would answer their phone and have a good faith discussion of this matter. This would be in compliance with his contracts with his service providers. Too bad his webmaster has such an evil streak. Birds of a feather. He has received many request to cease over the past years and answered with more defamatory posts... so here we are.. a two sided public disclosure.

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#32 REBUTTAL Owner of company

The name they call these type of low life's is "Keyboard Cowards".

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Hello,

Believe me, I have a lot of names I call these guys and all are appropriate. However, since I do not have sociopath qualities, as I believe they do, I pretty much keep them to myself and go about my business in true business like manner, unlike these two individuals.

I read an article in the latest Readers Digest last night that really brought it home as to what these brothers are like and what the are doing.

The activities they are doing is happening all over the web to other innocent victims, like myself.

The name they call these type of low life's is "Keyboard Cowards".

I had not heard that 'phrase before', I am aware of another phrase the makes me think of these type of people, that one is Internet Extortionists.

Also in the article it printed a remark by a reader that went like this:

These "keyboard cowards" have no respect for themselves or anyone else. As an educator, I have always taught my students to always reply to a hurtful or disrespecting remark, in a positive manner.

So, with that thought in mind, Brothers Hamm, I wish you a nice day !

Sincerely, John D. Saller, Owner * www.BullsBalls.com
The First Bulls Balls / Truck Balls Site on the Internet !
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#33 Author of original report

bulls balls saller update

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 13, 2009
Bulls Balls update: Attorney general requests all documentation. So this is moving forward. It may be soon that this eyesore of a company will be deep 6'd. The amount of time it has taken is phenomenal. But success is a brief spot away. The SALLER clan should have ceased when notified over a year ago. Like Clint says "once in everyones life you come across someone you just should't have fu**ed with..............and that person is me" I want to thank the attorney that have helped pro bono. They took a look at this and got real motivated.. Thanks!!!!

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#34 REBUTTAL Owner of company

One or the other, or most likely both are just sad individuals with sociopath backgrounds.

AUTHOR: Texas Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 11, 2009
Brothers are LIARS !

ALL of these postings are from either Kenneth OR David, owners of Yournutz.com, allthenutz.com and many sites and all vicious lies.

One or the other, or most likely both are just sad individuals with sociopath backgrounds.
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#35 Author of original report

tombyll plastics Inc.,JOHN SALLER John Beaman**CA ATTNY General Investigation info***

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 11, 2009
Ok Johnnys and Chadd. Lets contact the CA attny gen also and get their opinion. Ive included the contact info:

To report a possible violation or to request additional copies of
this publication, contact the:
Public Inquiry Unit Attorney General's Home Page:
Attorney General's Office www.caag.state.ca.us/
P.O. Box 944255
Sacramento, CA 94244-2550 E-Mail Address:
(916) 322-3360 piu@hdcdojnet.state.ca.us
Toll Free (800) 952-5225

Even a toll free number so it wont cost you a dime. Ill post my response. Hopefully you will correct your ongoing criminal behavior. I'll also ask them about Tombyll plastics INC. your manufacturing people in San Bernadino, with regard to the sales tax. I want to get the facts straight. You don't give any useful info, either purposefully or due to ignorance, don't know.

Please post WHO you speak to, time, and what they tell you, and what you told them. then it can be verified, just like your site seals..

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#36 Author of original report

Saller fraud, another lie exposed!!!!!!!!!!!

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 11, 2009
Johm saller, bullsballs.com makes the above statement in support of his side.

'I don't want my products associated with him in any way.'

Well Johnny, If that is in fact TRUE then explain why you devote NUMEROUS pages on your site dedicated to business libel per se with david hamms picture posted illegally.

You are a strange do nut wearing guy. I'm trying to follow you on your statements but they make no sense, business or legal. If the above is true then there would be NO reference to "him" in any way on your co-controlled site. (with John Beaman wwwebfactory.com, as posted on your site)

More lies and deceptions by JOhn D. Saller of bullsballs.com. If you only knew witch dealers are on board with us you'd be shocked. Even your dealers are fed up with your arrogance and lies..... and calling them isnt working anymore. Some have chosen to side with the law and you should immediately.........

So please explain the above or I will assume you are just posting further lies.

Just remember all the chances you had. You chose to hide from phone calls, so here we are on this public forum and on the road to court. Good job Johnny
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#37 Author of original report

BULLS BALLS, truck nuts, john saller, john beaman crimminal acts

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 10, 2009
Hey there John boys, Ive included the link to the department of justice, Let's just get the facts straight. Here's the deal. I will contact them on Monday and discuss this with them and post here what I find out. And if I am incorrect I will post an appology here.

You Johnny boys call also, remember to tell them that you are the experts and can do whatever you want. Then you post what they tell you. If you still have access to your computers.

We shall let the chips fall where they may. I hope for you that your "all in" bet gives you what you deserve on the river.

What You Can Do

Antitrust violations are serious crimes that can cost a company hundreds of millions of dollars in fines and can send an executive to jail for up to three years. These conspiracies are by their nature secret and difficult to detect. The Antitrust Division needs your help in uncovering them and bringing them to our attention.

If you think you have a possible violation or just want more information about what we do, contact the New Case Unit of the Antitrust Division:

E-mail: newcase.atr@usdoj.gov

Phone: 1-888-647-3258 (toll-free in the U.S. and Canada) or 1-202-307-2040

Address:

Antitrust Division - New Case Unit
601 D Street NW, Suite 10107
Washington, DC 20530
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#38 Author of original report

bulls balls, saller, beaman, co-cospirators to defraud the public

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 10, 2009
WELL SAID you criminalies.... I guess all the legal cases and laws are crap too? You guys are both criminals.

If I recall correctly, it was "two guys" who "maliciously hounded" and threatened until they were the reason for another CROOK Richard Nixon was called out on the carpet. And exposed to the public as criminal.

I really doubt you two criminals will get a "pardon" from the president.....

You both are exposed for what your criminal activities are. And I'm sure you will be seeing all the proof soon enough, with a REAL judge to decide.

Im sure you both sleep well at night knowing how you are stealing from unsuspecting consumers. Will your next roommate be Bubba, or Bruce, time will tell. They do say that Federal Prisons are the best!


price fixing n. a criminal violation of federal anti-trust statutes, in which several competing businesses reach a secret agreement (conspiracy) to set prices for their products to prevent real competition and keep the public from benefiting from price competition. Price fixing also includes secret setting of favorable prices between suppliers and favored manufacturers or distributors to beat the competition.

Price Fixing

n.A method in which businesses who are in competition with each other set up a strategy to fix up prices of particular commodities to avoid price competition.It is a criminal act according to federal laws as it encourages unfair competition and the public is deprived of reasonbale prices..This arrangement can also be made between suppliers and manufactures or distributors.


I think the "MAN" will be visiting you both very soon along with your distributors who conspire with you.

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#39 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Brothers are LIARS !

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 10, 2009
ALL of these postings are from either Kenneth OR David, owners of Yournutz.com, allthenutz.com and many sites and all vicious lies.

Consumer
Abq, New Mexico
U.S.A.

Knoak
Charlotte, North Carolina
U.S.A.

Nobull
Fort Mohave, Arizona
U.S.A.

Consumer
Albuquerque, New Mexico
U.S.A
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#40 Author of original report

BULLS BALLS, FRAUDULENT BUSINESS PRACTICES.

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 10, 2009
Dear Mr Saller, owner billsballs.com,

The facts are that all posted about you is verifiably true.

First. You are a convicted felon by your admission and AZ court record TRUE

Second. You have maliciously violated your own published PRIVACY Policy by posting the information here that was gathered through your website. TRUE

Just a couple of pertinent questions for you.

First. How can anyone believe what you say when you lie by violating your own privacy policy?

Second. How does your price fixing help competition by lowering prices to the consumer?

Third. You state that you have verified security.. well this didn't prevent you from violating your privacy policy by posting personal information. I want $10,000 for this invasion!!

It is quite clear that you are a pathological liar. And when confronted with the truth you try and attack the innocent victims. You may be a true sociopath!

Your co-conspirator web master has published on the web that he is responsible for the web correctness of your site. Leading unsuspecting consumers to believe your site is abiding with the law. Another fraudulent deception.

YOUR LIE #1. I have NO younger brother. You create more lies to confuse.
This post is to WARN consumers of your unethical, unscrupulous, fraudulent practices.. that's it. Nothing personal jonny.

TO BE CONTINUED
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#41 Consumer Comment

Madoff, Blagojevich, Saller, Birds of a Feather

AUTHOR: Knoak - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 10, 2009
After reading this so far it's apparent all these guys are similar. It's obvious because I read the piracy policy and saller violated it with malicious intent by his posting on this site is definitive proof.

Anyone sending this saller guy their credit card information is forewarned that it may end up all overt the internet, just like he's done with other private information collected on his site, fraudulent bullsballs.com.

It's been my experience that business that evade your valid business calls like john saller does it's because they are crooks and it holds true again because he's a felon.

I want to give a big thank you for Mr. consumer pointing this out to the public because we need all the help we can get to avoid deceptive web sites like this guy saller's bulls balls com

It's always been my fear that these sites would post my private information just like john saller did. He sounds like a reel peace of s**t

Respectfully submitted

name withheld for fear of retribution
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#42 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Kenneth is a LIAR! There is NO 'price fixing, mail fraud, false advertising' as stated by Kenneth Ham.

AUTHOR: Nobull - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, January 10, 2009
HIS POSTING IS A LIE.

There is NO 'price fixing, mail fraud, false advertising'.

My name is John Beaman. I am only the Webmaster for John Saller and his web site BullsBalls.com. I am not the owner, and not responsible for the site content or business policies of the BullsBalls company.

'Consumer, Albuquerque, New Mexico U.S.A.' is an obvious ruse to the real posters identity, that of Kenneth, the brother of David of San Diego, California and owner of a competing truck balls website to BullsBalls.com.

LIE # 1: Kenneth is not a 'consumer' as he is discussing dealer sales policy, and even states this in his whining above.

LIE # 2: The company policy is only recommending that everyone sell for the same price for good business reasons that Kenneth doesn't seem to have a clue about. Most companies do this. Therefore this persons claims against me are pure bullcrap.

LIE # 3: To insinuate that I am a convicted felon and do not return phone calls is an outright lie and pure criminal defamation of my character. I see no reason for him to include my name in his lying, petty, childish whining in an attempt to discredit me or my work as a webmaster.

Lie # 4: Kenneth never placed an order, but his brother David did.

LIE # 5: There is no mail fraud. His brothers money was refused/returned with explanation that his dealership was never approved. He placed his order after receiving an application receipt email that is automatically sent by our software. It was in no way an 'acceptance or approval' of dealer status, only a notification that his request was received..

LIE #6: There is no 'agreement' with the dealers, only recommended guidelines.

It is also stated on the application submission page that the management of BullsBalls.com reserves the right to approve/disapprove or discontinue any dealers status, as any company has every right to do so, and this type of 'dealer' is a perfect example of why this right was used in his case.

REASONS BEHIND THESE RANTINGS:

David continually steals ideas from and uses BullsBalls registered trademarks in an attempt to sell his copycat products online. The facts of his doings are stated on a BullsBalls imitators comparison web page. We also invite suggested corrections to the facts as we state them. These are solid product comparison facts, not the bullcrap lies and slander like this posting by his unscrupulous brother Kenneth.

Because they both seem unable to deal in this factual information, they have resorted to threatening emails and childish antics all over the internet, including this RipOffReport page, and submissions of bogus negative product reviews on Amazon.com and the like. His brothers product line is more costly and inferior, as factually stated, and he is just acting like a child with his temper tantrums and without any references, facts or truth.

There is no ripoff by John Saller. All companies reserve the right to accept or reject dealer applications and they were both rejected for good cause. This is not a rip off nor mail fraud. Davids only reason to try and become a dealer was to provide a legal way of using the BullsBalls trademark in keyword advertising. He was already threatened by a lawsuit for illegally using any BullsBalls trademarks in keyword advertising in the past.

Kenneth and David really need to grow up and cease and desist from the continual harassment and liable slander with all these childish postings all over the internet.

I really feel sorry that some internet sellers resort to these rediculous tactics. I can only hope everyone will see it for what it really is.

Sincerely, John Beaman - Webmaster for www.BullsBalls.com
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#43 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Hamm Brothers - Their Latest Malicious Attack...

AUTHOR: John D. Saller - Owner Of BullsBalls.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 09, 2009
Hello, My name is John D. Saller.

I created BullsBalls.com during the late nineties. Since then many people have
imitated my ideas and product line, because, with a lot of hard work it grew to
be successful and ripe for imitating.

In my opinion, this posting is not from a 'Consumer', as claimed, but is
actually Kenneth Ham, the older, more malicious brother of David Ham who has
copied many of my inventions and innovations and sells poor imitations of our
product line on many duplicated websites.

Between the two of them, they have brought the word 'malicious' to a whole new
level. Their intent regarding posting comments like these is that it will
encourage perspective customers not to buy our products and buy his imitating
products.

I am all for healthy competition in business, this constant posting of negative
comments at first upset me, but I've gotten to the point that now I just feel
sorry for them, although, I obviously have a strong dislike.

I, of course hope that people will realize he is just angry because I refuse to
allow him to become a dealer for my company and sell my product on his web site
because of his unethical ways.

"I don't want my products associated with him in any way."

They both continue to try and sign up as one of my dealers, and I continue, to
tell them NO, but they just won't accept my answer. I stand firm on my belief
that if anyone takes the time to honestly compare both product lines they will
choose the 'Original Bulls Balls / Truck Balls' as viewed on and purchasable at
BullsBalls.com.

Their previous malicious attack was over the holidays against my Amazon.com web
site, posting untrue information on my product pages as well as creating four
different "communities" (forums) and filling them up with libelous remarks. The
Amazon Support Team agreed and removed all their postings and are taking action
to prevent this type of irresponsible postings from ever happening again.

Also, during this same time frame, I received several harassing phone calls from
Kenneth Hamm, who I believe to be this person who posted this untrue
information, at my office. When I refused to answer the phone because my
'caller ID' indicated it was him, he then called an unrelated business of mine
and threatened one of my female employees.

At this time, I am in discussions with my attorney (finally) to take whatever
action seems pertinent to stop these two scoundrels from continuing their
unscrupulous ways in a legal fashion.

Below is a "point by point" rebuttal of their untruthful claims:

* This guy operates an internet company selling truck balls, I signed up to be a
dealer, sent in the money and now he says he didnt get my postal money order.

Rebuttal 1. - He signed up again, as a dealer, as he has many times over the
years, and I have refused every time. David bypassed our approval system and
placed an order anyway, and sent the payment via Priority Mail even after I
emailed him and told him he was not approved again as in the past, because of
his unprofessional personal and business practices.

He sent the "letterpak" anyway, and when it came into the Post Office, I asked
the Post Mistress to return it to him, which she did, the same day I received
it. We also copied the letterpak with her handwritten note and my initials,
because I fully expected some posting as this one. My best guess, he went ahead
and sent the check/MO anyway to use for present and future untruthful postings
here and elsewhere.

* He also e-mailed that he wont sell if I dont match his price.

Rebuttal 2. - This is an outright lie and I ask him to produce proof and post
that email here! Our policy is clearly stated otherwise.

* This guy has a felon conviction for assult with a deadly weapon, he doesn't
return calls.

Rebuttal 3. - This is the only true statement in all of his slanderous rantings.
I chose to plead guilty to the charge after a long time coming domestic
dispute. It is something I am truly ashamed of, but it happened. I have paid
my debt to society, it is my personal past, and is irrelevant to my business
dealings. The Hamm Clan continues to post this info in all their vicious
attacks wherever they can for obvious reasons. BTW : It is the only statement
that is true in this posting, as well as in previous malicious postings,
wherever he/they can find a place to continue their unethical business practices.

* I am filing a complaint with the postal inspectors.

Rebuttal 4. - If he does, he would have no proof of wrong doing and everything
would have to be a lie. Anybody can go to our web-site at www.BullsBalls.com,
click on any and many links, such as : About Us, Privacy Policy, Security
Policy, Guarantee Policy. Our Testimonials Page has literally hundreds of
emails sent to us over the years regarding our products and our excellent
customer service. These two jerks seem to be the only people that complain and
hide behind pseudo names and anonymous email addresses.

You will also find on our site, our Third Party - Business Verified, Certified
Privacy, and Security Links where an independent company did an lengthy and
comprehensive study on us and certified us a "reputable business" for the last
ten years. It should also be noted here that their sites/companies that they
own and operate (out of their garage) are hiding behind P.O. Boxes and often
"free" email addresses such as bullsballsinfo@gmail.com, KEN4HM@aol.com and
dh4dham@gmail.com amongst many others also.

* On his website he specifically requires that you match his prices.

Rebuttal 4. - This an absolute lie. What is indicated on our "Dealer Info Page"
is :

"If you are planning to sell any of our products on-line, via your own website
or any of the many auction websites, we highly recommend that you match retail
prices on our website(s)."

This is to make it fair for ALL of our dealers that sell on the Internet.

* I contacted some of his curent dealers and they say the same thing that they
have an agreement not to sell for less than his posted price or he wont sell to
them.

Rebuttal 5. - He is lying here also. We ask him to produce proof and post those
emails here or write a paragraph attesting to those claims and 'digitally' swear
to it here, by posting his real name, in a new posting.

* Has anyone else purchased any of these or know about this guy?

Rebuttal 6. - Over the last ten years, hundreds of thousands, in my best
'guesstimate' have purchased our products. The only complaints posted to the
internet, on sites such as RipOffReport is by these two guys. You can view our
"testimonials Page" and see for yourself !

Well, in conclusion I would like to apologize again to everyone, for those that
continue to waste your time and mine with these sad attempts to discredit me and
BullsBalls.com. I have apologized for these two men many more times then I care
to admit, over the years.

I must also apologize for his inclusion of my "webmasters name," who only
supports the internet side and has nothing to do with my business policy. To
link his name with such lies as 'mail fraud and price fixing' is totally
uncalled for and is unwarranted defamation of his character. I have informed
him of this libelous act.


Thank you for your time,

Sincerely, John D. Saller
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#44 Author of original report

bulls balls, truck nuts, John Saller

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 08, 2009
This guy is forcing dealers to match his price or have their dealership canceled. He advertises that he is the honest seller , when in fact he accepts money and never sends out product, he has been reported to the postal inspectors for mail fraud and we're adding new victims to the list of overcharged consumers. Stay away from bullsballs.com or any of their other sites.

I looked up this John Saller guy and he has a felony arrest for assault w/ deadly weapon, I think somewhere in Williams AZ. Its time to stop this arrogant, dishonest person. I think he belongs in jail.
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#45 Author of original report

bulls balls, truck nuts, John Saller

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 08, 2009
This guy is forcing dealers to match his price or have their dealership canceled. He advertises that he is the honest seller , when in fact he accepts money and never sends out product, he has been reported to the postal inspectors for mail fraud and we're adding new victims to the list of overcharged consumers. Stay away from bullsballs.com or any of their other sites.

I looked up this John Saller guy and he has a felony arrest for assault w/ deadly weapon, I think somewhere in Williams AZ. Its time to stop this arrogant, dishonest person. I think he belongs in jail.
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#46 Author of original report

bulls balls, truck nuts, John Saller

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 08, 2009
This guy is forcing dealers to match his price or have their dealership canceled. He advertises that he is the honest seller , when in fact he accepts money and never sends out product, he has been reported to the postal inspectors for mail fraud and we're adding new victims to the list of overcharged consumers. Stay away from bullsballs.com or any of their other sites.

I looked up this John Saller guy and he has a felony arrest for assault w/ deadly weapon, I think somewhere in Williams AZ. Its time to stop this arrogant, dishonest person. I think he belongs in jail.
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#47 Author of original report

Saller, bulls balls, truck balls, truck nuts williams az

AUTHOR: Consumer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 08, 2009
This rip off is continuing his devious deceptive practices, I need some help on who to file the complaint with, also need more victims to respond. If you bought one of his products you overpaid due to his continuous price fixing scheme. I got one of his dealers to admit in an e-mail that he has an agreement to fix prices.
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