Buyers Beware Of Monica Hawkey - Bear Holler Olde English Bulldogges, These people are lying to People they are Registry anything as pure breed. shawn-kris Olde Bulldog Cross need to stop breeding. These people are Selling Mutts and Pure Breeds. Alderson Virginia

These people are known liars and known racist people. They are from Slave State call VA one of the State that Hate color people. Watch out for these people they call me n****r spick and send e-mail with Color babaies hanging on a rope. real racist people. People like this don't need your money. They stay lying to buyers and Selling mutts are pure breeds. Watch out for these people. This is fact.

These people better sending us e-mail for years to come. I never send this man threaten e-mail in my life. I don't do wrong to anybody the own thing I doing is when morons post the same old bull crap about how the American Court System lie on us just to crap on our name in 2005. Where are the Wild Pigs in NYC or Freeport NY? We don't lie we been getting racist e-mail from these morons for years. So we are trying to pay them back for the years of the bull crap they did to us. People need to understand the truth. Eye for and eye. These people in Bulldogs world was racist, evil redneck that need to be stopped. This is fact. I should I lie about how these people been doing to us and lot of other color people.


Here is some real info about Mr Kwame Winston
http://www.oldbulldogs.com/pdf/WhereTheWildPigsNYC5.pdf. You people need to read this understand the lies and the set up in this bull crap case. Where is the Wild Pigs in NYC or Freeport NY that Lying Cops and the lying Animal Right morons said about Mr Kwame Winston at. Also this Man just came home in 2004 for having a gun because he was help and taking care his Family from Evil people e-mailing him Threatening e-mails that you will see when that link get working. How there is still Racial people in the World. How can the Cops and American Court System can get way with a lie. We also looking for real lawyers to stop these lying Cops, Lying American Court System and Lying Animal Right people from Set up people and doing wrong to real people that is trying to change there life.

WE AT THE OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION IS HERE TO HELP STOP THESE LYING ANIMAL RIGHT PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS WAY FROM YOU. WE ALSO SELL THE BEST MOLOSSER BULLDOGS, BULLDOGGES, BANDOGGES, BANDOGS AND MASTIFFS IN THE WORLD. THESE MORON ANIMAL RIGHT PEOPLE LYING PIGS AKA COPS ARE TRYING TO SET YOU UP DESTORYED YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS AND CIVIL RIGHTS. WE NEED YOUR HELP TO STOP THIS. NEED DONATE TO OREBAREGISTRY.COM TO HELP IN THIS FIGHT. THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN YOU FROM HAVING DOGS OR BREEDING THEM. IT IS GETTING SAID OUT HERE IN AMERICA. WE HERE FEEL LIKE THERE IS REALLY NO FREEDOM NEED YOUR LETTER AND YOUR DONATE TO THE BEST KENNEL AND ASSOCIATION IN THE WORLD. WHAT DO YOUR CLUB DO TO SAVE YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS AND YOUR CIVIL RIGHT? ALSO THESE LYING ANIMAL RIGHT PEOPLE ARE KILLING DOGS WHEN THEY TAKE THEM FROM YOU. THEY CALL YOU ANIMAL ABUSE. REAL PEOPLE DO REAL THING. HELP US TO HELP YOU. GOD BLESS AND JOIN US. THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU ALSO THEY CAN SET YOU UP AND LIE ON YOU. THAT IS HOW IS AMERICAN COURT SYSTEM REALLY IS.

Also The OREBA Resuce NetWork Group is to help Breeders, and Dog owers to understand there have right also. Need to make people understand this. Mr Kwame Winston Civil Rights and Human Rights was Lied on, and destoryed for they said he was Training Dogs to Fight Wild Pigs in Freeport NY. You tell your self where is the pigs that he can train to fight dogs with. You people need also to understand References like Long Island Press - March 22, 2005 , New York Daily News - March 23, 2005, Long Island Press - Sept 14, 2005 are no longer working because they see the truth that Mr Kwame Winston really didn't do this. You people need to understand real facts and the truth about this lying Case that Mr Kwame Winston was set up. Also moron from TX Mr Kwame Winston have EDUCATED.
http://www.freewebs.com/orebarescue/

People can lie a lot just to make somebody look bad
http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4159/NY/US/1

also these people are racist and evil people. we beedn getting threat e-mail from these people with racist words. watch out for these lying people here.


Buyer Beware of this man and woman. They have cross breed dogs and have there registry own dog registry but they really have Big English Bulldog registry cross. These people are not telling consumers the truth. It is sad need to be stopped.

Remember Buyers The Original Olde English Bulldogges have tail and don't look like big English Bulldogs cross with 'SCREWED' TAILS. The Truth had to be tolded to all you good consumers. We need you help to let more people know about this people. These are The Right Registry for the Olde English Bulldogges OREBA and LBA. The Other ones like IOEBA, WBA, OBBA, NBA, CKC, ARF, NKC and ADBA was registry us to have real Dog matching. These people are really hurting the Breed.

The Truth is Here.

In 1950 1971 1960, Mr Winston, Mr Leavitt and Mr Hermes started this project of breeding a dog with the looks of the 18th century Bulldog. I had become disenchanted with English Bulldogs, due to breeding and breathing problems. I discovered that they didn't look like their ancestors, who were healthier and less extreme. I found that bull and bear-baiting had been very widespread for hundreds of years.

Extreme cruelty to animals was inherent in baiting sports. This cruelty was abhorrent to me, but I was fascinated by the great tenacity and courage of the over-matched underdog. I was also drawn to the Bulldog because of his fierce appearance. A modern protection dog, which looks really tough, will repulse an assailant without having to bite. This is the most desirable end to a confrontation. I couldn't find a reliable source for old style Bulldogs, and set about the daunting task of breeding back. I named the breed Olde English Bulldogge.

Research has been critical in developing a standard. I have period statues, paintings, prints, and all the important older dog books. I found that Bulldog sizes varied during different periods, due to changes in the way the baits were staged. Like all old working breeds, Bulldogs were not bred to a strict standard. Their distinctive body, head, and temperament, were dictated instead by their work.

I do not want the temperament of the original Bulldog. My dogs must be very loving. They must have courage and determination, without being overly aggressive. I've found that I can't count on buyers to get their dogs under good obedience control. If I have to make a mistake, it must be on the friendly side, and if someone wants their dog to be sharper, all it takes is bit of training. I'd rather teach a friendly dog to bite, then vice versa.

I'm using a line-breeding scheme, developed for cattle at Ohio State University. You start with 3 unrelated dogs, two males and one female. Female pups from the first cross are bred to the second male. From this point, females are bred back to uncles, each generation.

I have 2 unrelated schemes started, so future outcrosses will be possible. I've used breeds that all have old Bulldog in their background. My dogs are half English Bulldog, and the other half Bullmastiff, Pit Bull, and American Bulldog.

The process of getting the dogs to match the old depictions is actually rapid due to the breeds used, and a dogs' short gestation period. I try to get on to the next generation as quickly as possible, to make genetic progress and get consistent results. I'm up to the eight and ninth generations on the two lines, at the time of this printing in 1989, 1995.

My dogs can now breathe. They will never be like hounds, able to run for miles during the hottest weather of summer, but they're three times better than the restricted modern Bulldog. Cesarean section births are not necessary. Artificial insemination, due to male ineptness and lack of drive, has been replaced by natural ties. Life span is over eleven years. All breeding stock have had hip x-rays. No dog with bad hips is bred. I'm now achieving my goal of producing a Bulldog with the health and temperament to be able to serve people, instead of forcing people to serve him.

HERE IS DOCUMENTED PROOF OF MY FIRST REBUTTAL THAT MR. KWAME MASTEROFALLBULLDOGS,OLD RED ENGLISH BULLDOGS ASSOCIATION,IS NOTHING BUT A SLANDERER AND A CONVICTED DOG AND ANIMAL ABUSER,AND A CONVICTED FELON.

PROOF: http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4159/NY/US/

Kwame,Masterofallbulldogs as he calls himself,(Old Red English Bulldogs Association)has taken it upon himself to slander,de-grade,discredit all Olde English Bulldogge breeders,not limiting himself to one breed but to other breeds also,such as the Alapaha, He has gone as far as setting up his own personal website of Slanderous lies and going on the Ripoff report,when in truth, Mr.Kwame really is a convicted felon of dog fighting,animal abuse,cruelty to animals,concealed weapon charges.etc.etc....just to name a few. This is documented fact. So please people see thru this fool. Also go to Ripoff Report # 372018 and see what they have to say about him. Make sure when reading ALL reports you scroll down to the bottom of the page and read ALL the Rebuttals.

Master of all Bulls
Jose
Old Red English Bulldogs Kennel

This man(Jose) and affiliates are nothing but scam artist,
liars,convicted felons,just plain frauds.They try to foul,and degrade honest
breeders with good dogs, to promote their junk.
Please people do your homework and research this man and his complaints.
If you go down the list,his name or kennel name is on
most of these complaints about most of the Olde English Bulldogge breeders.
He is jealous of all,If you look at his complaints,they are nothing but an
advertisement for his dogs, that is why he does what he does,he has nothing else
to do between jail sentences.AND MR.JOSE KWAME WINSTON,whoever
you are this week ducking the law, you will be hearing from my attorney
if he can locate you. You have chosen the wrong people this time for your
crap.If anybody would like to discuss this with us,feel free to call we will answer any of your question.Thanks Monica 1-304-445-2014..