Carpenter Construction Carpenter Contracting Same Company, Different Name, Internet

As I stated on your other rebuttal, right here at the top of the page Carpenter exposes his own lie that Carpenter Contracting is NOT Carpenter Construction, and your own defense of him shows they're the same! As would any reasonable person conclude seeing both firms' listings on the BBB, where one was clearly started up in recent months to get around the F rating of the older one. Clearly, KevinR, you are indeed Mr Carpenter, or put up to this by him. How interesting that you and ole Vern styled your RR identities the same way, ending in a capital R (for Ripoff?). I hope someone here contacts the real Vern Glasgows, father and son, to see if either really wrote what supposedly came from them. but as I stated elsewhere, even if he did write to defend Carpenter, it doesn't mean Carpenter hasn't taken others for a ride. Same goes for you and toilet refund lady, assuming any of you even exist.

And that's why Mr Carpenter took pains to try and con everyone here in an earlier rebuttal to another post, that Carpenter Contracting was a different firm altogether having nothing to do with himself. I refer back to his F rating on the BBB. And don't tell me its because he doesn't want to pay them to be a member. There are plenty of unpaid companies with A ratings. If not for that, maybe I could put more weight on my own nagging doubts about this whole affair, that being that this flurry of complaints on RR seem to go back no further than this past May. But I suppose if indeed he's being targeted unfairly by a cabal out to get him then he has no worries given his strong cadre of support among you, toilet lady and good ole Vern the Elder.

So let me get this straight... after "Vernon's" validity is questioned, with good reason, now another extremely satisfied "client" of Patrick's (who also had less than $90 worth of work done) is on the defensive for him.  I'm trying to think of an instance where I paid someone that amount of money to do one job and then was scouring the internet looking for negative reviews of them only then posting everywhere possible about how incredible they are...  Can't think of anyone that does that.

The writing styles between Vernon and Kevin are identical $ symbol after the numbers, double exclamation points, threating random people who have no irk with them...

Also, pointing to the Yelp site, it is extremely easy to discredit all of the "positive" reviews posted there.  They are verbatim copies off of Patrick's website testimonies.  Not only that, but the vast majority are posted the same day by multiple people.  

I'm still waiting on my refund Patrick.  Oh, thats right, you told me over the phone you don't give refunds, and then said "I quit" without finishing the job that you took my money for.  But if you really are trying to turn over a new leaf, please send me a refund check of $870 and I will be more than happy to let everyone on this site know about it.

After seeing the pictures from a fellow reviewer on the stone work quality that he did for her and also that he took her money and walked off the job, it became very obvious to me that Patrick is a fraud.  When you have multiple victims with very similar stories, it is no longer a case of your word versus theirs, but rather a pattern of fraud.  If you feel you have been the victim of fraud, you can let the Attorney General of Texas know about it with this form: https://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/complaintform.pdf  

If you also live in McKinney or Plano, please let local law enforcement know.

We had a terrible storm in our neighborhood which left a lot of fences damaged. I heard about Pat from a neigbor of mine, he had repaired there fence as well.

I called him and he came right over. He gave me a quote of only 50$, no money up front. He came the next day and installed a steal post with supports and rebuilt several parts of my fence for free. I ended up paying 72$ as the quote was just for labor, but he explained that at the beginning. These guys are good people.

If you don't believe me just read these reviews, http://www.yelp.com/biz/carpenter-contracting-aka-carpenter-consruction-mckinney I'm not the only one that thinks he is great.

My neighbor told me that he gave her a full refund. I think that is unheard of.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/plumbing/patrick-carpenter/patrick-carpenter-took-140-f-86f6e.htm I know her and that was real.

Furthermore bashing an 82 year old veteran is shameful!! I am a patriot and I think your accusations against Vernon are extremely disrespectful and show what kind of people you guys  really are. If I was Pat I would definatly file a restraining order against you guys.

According to white pages, there are 2 Vernon Glasgows at the address he provided, one being 82 and one being 39.  He posted enough information with his name and partial address that anyone with a computer can look up on collincad.org to see his full address even though he misspelled the street address.  I find it hard to believe that a WWII vet, retired cop who is savvy enough to find this website online and be proficient at using the internet to post a review.  I personally don't know any 82 year olds that could do it.  Also, why would an ex-cop post his personal information online for the the world to see?  That doesn't make any sense to me.  I don't think the Dallas PD would appreciate seeing the image of their shield being used in this capacity.   Why would anyone put their neck out on the line for a guy they don't know and have no idea how many people he scammed out of money. 

Take a look at the BBB listing for both his businesses.  Consumers have posted on this site to help protect other consumers so maybe they won't use him and be scammed like we were.  His slogan on his website that says "Choosing our Service saves YOUR money" is a joke.  It has cost me double to have my project completed as he quit working after he was paid and barely started the work.  I had to hire another contractor to fix what he tore up and redo the little bit work he did do. Patrick A Carpenter is a con-artist and is the same owner of Carpenter Contracting and Carpenter Construction.  Just put  in his name in the collin county property records and pull up his DBAs.  You'll see he has the same address on both even though he denies being the same person.

http://countyclerkrecords.co.collin.tx.us/webinquiry/

He filed his new dba in June to avoid all of the people who have posted reviews and filed with the BBB.  This is his attempt to be able to scam more innocent people.

Hey Vern, seems y'all own a house, or at least your family trust does, on ole Appaloosa in Frisco, according to city-data.com. Maybe you're just a buddy of this guy, assuming you are for real and not Carpenter posing as you. Why would you have had reason to go looking up ripoff reports on him, if you aren't him, and had no problems with his work? UNLESS, you either ARE him, or were put up to posting rebuttals for him. And he may well be an honest guy being smeared by competitors or folks just plain out to get him. From what we've seen posted here, if it were all true, I'd figure he'd be locked up by now. But any time we see supposedly happy customers somehow stumbling upon angry posts about a company, we have to view it with a jaundiced eye. We expect the company being reported to do its own responding, addressing the customers' issues at hand. Not shill jobs, true or not true. As an ex cop, maybe this guy was scared enough of screwing around with you that he did what he was paid to do for you. Doesn't mean he ain't ripping others off. And none of us know one way or the other at this point. My point is, your post, if it was made legitimately, doesn't help him and only raises further suspicion, for the reasons I've already given.

My name is Vernon Glasgow, you can check me out if you like.

I got a flyer on my door, I live in Frisco off of Appollssa Dr. I called Pat and he fixed my fence and my sprinklers. Prior to this encounter I had never met him before. Those are the facts. You need to leave Pat and his associates alone.

I am helping him because I believe in small business and people like Pat deserve to succeed. I am advising him to file a restraining order for harassment against you guys. I hope he does.

To Carpenter's good and loyal retired vet/cop "buddy", Y'all don't really expect anyone reading the zillions of reports about this guy to believe you're for real, do you?

I hired these guys to repair my fence and fix my sprinklers. They were wonderful.

They did not want any money up front, and only charged me 80$ for all there help. I am a disabled WW-2 veteran and it is difficult to do things around my house. I am also a retired dallas police officer, and member of the dallas police and fire association. You can trust these guys!!

These boys helped me with lots of things I have needed doing for a long time for free. Im very glad I ran into them, you will be too.

It appears to my trained eyes that many of these reports are falsified about Pat. He is a wonderful human being and an amazing builder. I am a diabled WW-2 veteran and a member of the retired DPD association.

All I can say is I have used Pat for many repairs around my house and I will definatly be calling him again. He asked for no money up front and actually charged less when the job was done.

Make no mistake about it.  Carpenter Contracting/Carpenter Construction is the same person.

The Collin County public records already prove this but in addition you can see the Google Cached version of his old website ( carpentercontracting.org ) and then look at the new site ( carpenterconstruction.org ).  The language is exactly the same for both sites.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ovd2hH8ab1kJ:www.carpentercontracting.org/%3Fstart%3D20+www.carpentercontracting.org&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

   Patrick Carpenter, Carpenter Contracting, Carpenter Construction- all the same rip off artist.   The 'new' website looks exactly like the old one with only minor changes.  I printed up his old website before it disappeared. Yep, same guy.. B E W A R E !

The websites are identical, except Patrick Carpenter changed his mailing address and phone numbers as he scammed too many consumers under the other name.  All of his "testimonials" are the exact same as when he had the www.carpentercontracting.org website up as well as all of the other info.  He does not have the experience he claims he does and will scam you out of your money.    Check out the Collin County public records before you do any business with this person.

http://countyclerkrecords.co.collin.tx.us/webinquiry/

Also, check out the BBB website for both companies. 

I am the owner of Carpenter Construction, we have been in business for a very long time.

We are in no way related to this Carpenter Contracting company.

We can understand the mixup as the names are similar, but as we take our reputation very seriously, please disregard the aligations that have been made here.