Doc's Sport Service - Robert Ferringo - Ringo - Bobby F. Lousy Sports Handicapping Service Disguising Itself As Legitimate Internet

I don't have much experience at this. But i got an email for a free weeks worth of picks from 2 handicappers of my choice on the site.. I bet on Their 7 unit bets and their 5 unit bets.. I won them all. The only one I lost was the 3 unit bet for my favorite team, so i decided to put a small wager on them.! I know it was only one week, but hell.. It had me considering buying a package! My question to your report.. If you bought ONE package, and LOST. Why didn't you persue their guarantee then? Instead you go and buy a SECOND package? There's just so many holes in your story. I just don't understand why you would make this stuff up? I just want to say. My one week was very good there!

Also, you say that a person betting $1,000 on all picks since the Fall of 2006  would have banded between $200,000 and $300,000.  Why wouldn't you know exactly how much they would have banked?

 You say "you have not yet figured out a way to monitor each customer's results."  Have you ever tried doing just that

with a computer?  It doesn't seem to me to be beyond a computer's capabilities.

I have lost for 3 months straight. Robert Ferringo used to be good but, he is past his prime. He's not worth it. Do not spend your money on his picks! absolutely worthless. You should have an extra 15,000 laying around and you might bank 1k at the end of the season. It's not worth it. He is really bad.

Sorry, Just to add that anytime I have lost with any of the cappers, all you have to do is send them an email(which they ask you to do) and ask them to keep you updated with the cappers picks until a profit is shown.................No questions asked.

Scott in vegas, Docs Sports,

Just a quick note here.

I have purchased picks from docs and they have been up and down, some GREAT some HORRIBLE. Scott, I just think that you had bad timing and were not in it for the long haul, with R Ferringo's baseball picks I'm currently up 90 units already just from the start of the season(about 8 weeks).....granted that 90 units was 120 units just a week ago. Any bets you make are a GAMBLE on the cappers thoughts and we can't all be right all of the time.......give me a break. Which gets me to my point....These guys go on heaters of winning runs and losses as well, bottom line is i'm doing alot better with them than I ever did without them. BTW - Docs Nba bought me a motorcycle this year (so far) as well :)

One thing that I will agree with scott on is that a few times per week RF's totals lines are not what you will get by the time he posts them to his subscribers. An over under of 9 will be 9 1/2 or on a couple of occasions 10by the time I can place my bet, I think he should state or say hey play this pick up to 9 at this amount of units or drop to this amount of units @ 9 1/2......

Larry - Tampa FL - (((Redacted)))


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From Doc's Sports Services

First, we would say that Doc's Sports Service is one of the most trusted and well-respected organizations in the entire handicapping industry. Doc Moseman has been a successful professional sports handicapper for 37 years and in that time has developed an impeccable and unquestioned reputation. I assure you that everyone in our company is held to the same high standards in regards to honesty, integrity, and results. Our reputation is critical to us and we want to make sure that the negative experience of one customer doesn't distort what we've built over these decades.

Over the nearly 40 years that Doc's Sports has been distributing picks there have been thousands of satisfied customers who were able to turn a healthy profit while being treated fairly and honestly by our organization. However, there have also been customers who may not have had a positive experience, which primarily has more to do with how much money they've won or lost as opposed to whether or not we've treated them fairly or not.

While we can't always control the wins and losses, the main issue we have is in regards to questions about our "legitimacy" or our customer service. We are often praised for how we go above and beyond when it comes to our level of service and we will continue to operate in this manner.

Doc's Sports has been in business since 1971 and we have earned a great reputation in this industry. Doc, himself, is often invited to such contests as the Leroy's Money Talks Invitational. He placed second in that competition two straight years, and you don't get invited to such prestigious events without being one of the most well respected and top-producing handicappers in the industry.

Robert Ferringo has been a professional handicapper with Doc's Sports Services for nearly two years and we're extremely proud to have him with our organization. Robert has always met or exceeded the standards we have here in terms of ethics, honesty, and performance. We feel that he has a very bright future and are excited about what he has accomplished and what he will accomplish in the future.

In the seven-month time period that "Scott In Vegas" tracked, Robert posted total gross losses of approximately $3,800 for clients in basketball, baseball and football. However, in the 12 months prior to August of 2007 he posted profits of approximately $12,000 for those same clients. He has produced tremendous amounts of profits for most of his clients, but unfortunately losing stretches do happen and we are confident that he will bounce back from his recent cold spell and continue to produce.

Nothing is guaranteed in the world of sports gambling. We adopt a long-term approach to this realm of entertainment and investment and we encourage our clients to do the same. Short-term investing in sports gambling is not different than short-term investing in the stock market the chances are that you're going to either do very, very well or do very, very poorly. It's generally all or nothing, and that doesn't fit into our model of success. In fact, it's been the honest, straightforward manner in which Doc's Sports has weathered the down times that has helped us build the sterling reputation that we present.

We also encourage those people who cannot afford to lose money to not bet. We have a talented group of handicappers that can help players stay in the game as long as possible AND turn a healthy profit. However, to be able to do that you need to be able to weather the good times and the bad and have a long-term goal for success.

Since the fall of 2006 the combined selections for Robert Ferringo and Doc's Sports for college basketball, Major League Baseball, and football would have net someone betting $100 per Unit a total profit of anywhere between $20,000 and $30,000. Dime bettors those betting $1,000 per Unit would have banked between $200,000 and $300,000. Full documentation is available to substantiate those claims. During that time either handicapper has had runs of tremendous fortune as well as tremendous misfortune. But the end results are undeniable. Again, this is a volatile market that we choose to make a living in. However, we do so with great success. And we do so with the highest ethical standards in the industry.

Our clients come first. And as we can't always control what happens on the field we always make sure to treat all of our customers with honesty, respect, and candor.

Here are a list of misrepresentations and distortions that we took exception to in "Scott in Vegas's" article:

1) In his article he claims to have lost $493.00 using "round numbers" while betting Robert Ferringo's baseball selections from August through October of 2007. We keep detailed records of our results and over this period someone betting $100 per Unit would have turned a profit of $1,015. After the expense of paying for the selections that's still a net profit of $595. Scott In Vegas appeared to only be betting $10 per Unit so his total profit should have been $59.50.

2) Scott in Vegas claims that we don't flat bet, which means to bet the same amount of money on each game. This is true, but an overwhelming majority of handicapping services has some sort of rating system so this is absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. We use the system because it has been proven to work over the years. If Doc knew of a better system he would be using it.

In fact, many services use tiered packages with different pricing. For example, they may have a Silver Package of selections for $100, a Gold Package for $500, and a Platinum Package for $1000. We do not do that. We offer the same price for all of our handicappers' selections. Each client pays the same amount for the same picks.

3) He claims that over the period that he tracked in baseball and in football that Robert Ferringo's plays rated 4.0 or higher (The $40 bet) would "more often than not lose". This is not true. Over that time his record on plays rated 4.0 or higher was 54-47, including 24-11 in baseball and 30-36 in football.

4) Scott claims that, "Ferringo distorts his numbers." However, he doesn't provide any examples and this statement can be considered libel. Everything that is posted anywhere on our site, at all times, is 100 percent accurate to the best of our knowledge. Mistakes obviously happen, but they are corrected in the swiftest possible fashion.

5) The policy of Doc's Sports Services is that we extend the service of customers who do not show a profit over the course of their subscription for any given season. We have always honored this policy and any claim that we haven't is baseless.

Here is the official statement from the company. This goes out on several emails and is posted in our member area.

Please keep in mind we have so many customer subscriptions, starting and stopping on different days, with different handicappers, for different sports, that it would be impossible for us to monitor each customer's individual performance. We leave it up to you to let us know when picks are owed to you, and we will always deliver on our guarantee to you. Customer service is very important here at Doc's Sports. We have not yet figured an automatic way to monitor each customer's results based on sign up time, units, capper and sports, but when we owe you something you can be assured you will get it, all you have to do is ask.

6) We did not ban anyone's IP address from accessing Doc's Sports Blog. The Blog was set up as a tool for our customers to ask questions and get insight into how their handicappers go about making their selections. It was not intended to be a forum for people to rant, and our move was also an attempt to keep competitors from coming in and posting their promotions. (Which was happening.) There are many other venues for those things and the intended purpose of our Blog was simply to help our clients in any way possible.

The fact is that "Scott from Vegas" or any of our other clients can always call up and ask for and extension of service. Not only will we oblige, but also in many cases we will give them extra service or extra games. It's always been our policy to go above and beyond. It should also be noted that we've attempted to contact "Scott in Vegas" but we only have one Scott with a Las Vegas address and he did not subscribe to Robert's college basketball selections. If contact is made we will certainly be happy to take care of any of the questions, concerns, or issues you may have. We can be reached at 1-866-238-6696 or service@docsports.com.