Report: #1448543

Complaint Review: Dutchsinse - St Louis Missouri

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  • Reported By: Izisyup — St Louis United States
  • Dutchsinse

    St Louis, Missouri
    United States

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This individual claims to be able to predict/forecast earthquakes.  He is constantly asking for money, then bullying people who questions the expenditures of said funds.

 

Avoid sending money because all it does is support his Marijuana growing operations.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Dutchsince is simply not accurate and that means he fools people into thinking he is

AUTHOR: Frank - (United States)

I have been watching DutchSince on both YouTube and Twitch.   I have not seen any mention of Marijuana nor have I seen him require payments of his viewers. In chat is a different story as of 10/16/2018 chat requires a subscription that's 60 dollars a year!  No thanks.

Let me explain what Dutchsince does and you decide if he's a rip-off?  

1. He makes around 25-43 forecasts each week on Sunday at 10PM CST , most of the areas are on or near the "Ring of Fire" where Earthquakes are plentiful

2. He counts a "HIT" to be within 200 miles (any direction), within a Magnitude (Or within 32x  difference in strength, and within 7 or 10 days)

3. His followers or subscribers, never track yet claim to new people that Dutchsince is accurate, he is not

4. How accurate is he? In my own tracking with Earthquakes within 25% of the forecasted Strength ( Anywhere from 13% to 31% per week correct)

5. His followers and himself are abusive to anyone who does not believe in the value of his services. They berate, harass, and even threaten anyone who is not a Dutch disciple. (proof attached)

6. He openly chastises USGS, EMSC and spreads lies the agencies are purposely hiding earthquakes, or they are the  " Point 9 society" by lowering reports to a point 9 on purpose.

7. Several countries have banned him from forecasting namely New Zeland and he has issues in Indonesia and Italy

8. He does sell shirts and mugs on teespring and asks supporters to "support his operation" always at the end of shows

9. His moderators also ask for "donations" and are the only posters allowed to post links , to payment services to raise money for themselves (go fund me etc)

10. That's what this is about

Is this a rip-off? I'll let you decide, I do think ita an abusive site that does not accept the fact Dutch may very well be wrong and that he gets lucky by cherry picking spots on the notorious Ring of Fire , watch his show its a repeat of the same thing every week just a matter of a few different warning zones . His "HITS" are almost always way under his forecasted strength, he does this I believe for more sensationalism.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Smear campaign - Libel!

AUTHOR: Janelle - (United States)

 Dutchsinse is the furthest thing from a rip off. His name has been smeared, he has been doxed he has been blacklisted... all for telling the truth. His methods of forecasting earthquakes are now being assimilated by mainstream scientists. Obviously the person who wrote this Ripoff Report is very jealous or working for a government agency. We are wise to these tactics they didn't work before and they're not going to work now especially in the fake media climate. Whenever someone is attacked unrelentlessly without reason you better believe they have something important to say.

Something that the powers that be do not want you to hear. As far as asking for money, Dutch has a patreon link on his YouTube channel like almost every other YouTuber. To be honest I can't remember if he mentions it or not.. so if he does it must be really miniscule. And who cares if he does? How is that any different from any other YouTuber? Dutch has been doing this for a long time I've been listening to him since 2011 and he's been attacked nonstop. (((REDACTED)))

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#3 Consumer Comment

Mention of Mayotte Volcano, Dutch's comment in a video and my Facebook post to Mayotte Prefect

AUTHOR: Kelly - (United States)

I do have a background in data dealing with GIS and in understanding the Earth. I watch Dutch because I have relatives and friends in Oregon and Washington. Regardless, after watching Dutch for quite a while he has never pressured for any money but offers a link if you wish to donate. These endeavors are expensive, furthermore, cost prohibitive on your own. I can mention off the top of my head several entities that press you for money. Dutch, however, personally acknowledges each donation at the end of his broadcast and says thank you. Dutch, however, is very accurate on his predictions and has the methodology printed and on his website that you can download and do yourself which he encourages so that you understand what is going on in our world today. 

Getting to the Mayotte issue, I do know some people overseas in Iraq and Southern Africa. Whan the mention of Mayotte came up so I tried to contact them to let them know about the mention in the video. They never responded so I tried on Facebook to send the link info to the country officials that way. I did get a response and they were interested in a translation as they speak French. My sister-in-law is fluent in French, Japanese and English. I thought she might be able to help but found out that the Prefect of Mayotte had already contacted our "Feds" and complained about Dutch. I dropped the subject and offered to the Facebook people what I knew and that they should not get in trouble with their government. 

Amusingly enough, recently the volcano next to Mayotte has been shaking and there are measured quakes which one can see on the European feeds as I have in fact lost faith in USGS and will not rely on them for my well-being or comments I make to others. These quakes are quite vigorous I would say from the comments left by the inhabitants of Mayotte could be considered serious. I wonder if the Prefect of Mayotte might be thinking that perhaps he should maybe watch the video that Dutch put out so he could learn more that would benefit his people, but I am not him and do not know his responsibilities, so I will keep quiet here.

You can see my comments on Facebook on the Mayotte page if it is still there. You can see the videos by checking out Dutch's channel on YouTube. Personally, I think Dutch is harder on himself than most anyone else except the people who are trying to destroy him. I would imagine the bullying is for their own gain monetarily. People should realize when this "baby" starts rocking, I doubt money is going to mean much if anything. We as a world should be paying more intelligent attention to our environment and should be helping each other and not destroying each other for stupid reasons. We are all educated and I expect that people can judge for themselves and I would encourage them to do so by watching the videos and tracking his weekly reports.

Cheers and the best to everyone.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Izisyup

AUTHOR: Al - (United States)

Sad attempt to discredit and slander someone who is only sharing useful information, that other entities we pay for should be doing. I've watched his feed for a while now and he has never begged for anything and never mentioned drugs. He only recently was given option to sell merchandise on utube, and has only mentioned it a few times. I've never felt any pressure to give money or purchase any thing. I've only felt his earthquake prediction methods show that they are not random events and highly correlate to volcanic activities as well. Every resource he uses  is from legitimate sources, this report should be filled on the media for not informing the public of all that is going on, instead of all the nonsense they and utube show. Donations do not entitle anyone to say how funds should be used, look up how much your favorite charities pay executives and waste funds on guide star dot com and get back to me, Izisyup. Also some universities and corporations grow marijuana for research and profit, so what it is legal most places now anyway and pills are worse.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Slander / Libel / Defamation of Character against Dutchsinse AKA Michael Yuri Janitch,

AUTHOR: Athena - (United States)

Please be advised any and all allegations regarding Mr Michael Janitch are false and a viral attempt to falsely discredit his accomplishments as a scientist over the last decade.  As a fellow scientist I assure you his work has merit and his findings of geological changes are accurate.  His is youtube site, website and scientific advancements are his own intellectual proptery.  At this time I must request you remove the above complaint and provide the contact information of false accusations to Mr. Janitch for further legal action.  

The man known as "Dutchsinse" has been the victim of harrassment by academia, insurance compaenies, etc over the last 10 years.  He has been bullied and publicly demeaned by those who are following a green agenda which does not provide information to the general public.  His statements regarding tornadoes in Joplin MO saved the lives of several of my family members.  His statements regarding "preparing" follow those of READY.GOV and FEMA guidelines.  

These false Defamation accusations are an attempt to silence someone who speaks the truths of earth changes.  There is no charge to follow his youtube site.  We follow him by choice and make no contracts in anyway.  The scientific community is at a cross roads where academias and old school organizations feel threaten by those who have stepped up to make great new findings.  We are all grateful for his contributions to saving the lives of many through his efforts.  

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

False accusations on ripoff report

AUTHOR: dutchsinse - (United States)

A series of false accusations have appeared on "ripoff report" filed by someone who has a grudge or is trolling.

The false claim says that I have somehow "faked" volcanic plumes seen on satellite imagry reported to me by my viewers, and seen on NOAA satellite images.

The additional false claim says that I'm "growing marijuana" and that I use drugs... NEITHER claims are true.  I do not use drugs of any kind, do not manufacture, or sell them either.

These are false , slanderous libelous claims from false accusers who have no morals.

I support law enforcement, the US Military, and the rule of law.  I will defend myself in court if necessary on these things.


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#7 General Comment

As a Follower of Dutch

AUTHOR: Clista - (United States)

I have followed Dutch and NOT ONCE have I heard this man FORCE anyone to buy anything or DONATE anything. This man has been harrassed constantly by media, Utube, and trolls just looking to give people trouble.

As a follower it is my FREE choice to watch this man do his Earth Quake updates, NO ONE forces me to do so. I have seen Porn videos being suggested on sites and these are not attacked by anyone. 

Why can people not leave this man alone? Anyone who chooses not to watch him does not need to but to report this man as a RIPOFF is wrong!!!!

 

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#8 Consumer Comment

SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST DUTCHSINSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED

AUTHOR: Joe - (United States)

SOMEONE IS PUSHING A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE TRUTH. THAT IS ALL. THE ORIGINAL REPORT SHOULD BE REMOVED AND DELETED FOR ILLEGAL SMEARING. I AM THE ONE WHO SUGGESTS DONATING TO DUTCHSINSE IN THE CHAT ROOMS NOT DUTCHSINSE HIMSELF. I TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR RAISING FUNDS FROM WITHIN THE CHAT ROOM, DUTCHSINSE ONLY MENTIONS THE SWAG THAT YOUTUBE NOW OFFERS HIM

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