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Complaint Review: J.T. Advertising - Doral Florida

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Hello fellow ROR.com users,

The following is a report that I am filing against J.T. Advertising for presumable shady business practices. I have no concrete proof that they are a scam company, but if you read my story and compare it to the companies I refer to in the report, you will see that this company smells like bologna. Big smelly bologna. So here it goes . . .

This is just a warning. I did not work for this company (thank God) but know that they seem very sheisty. First off, let me direct you to two other companies on ripoffreport.com that use similar (matter of fact, EXACTLY THE SAME) tactics as J.T. Advertising. These two companies are Miami Marketing Works and Niko Group Inc., which are both affiliated with Cydcor. Now J.T. Advertising is not necessarily associated with these two companies but, if you read this report and compare it to the reports of the other two companies, you will see that all of these companies use the same tactics to scam people.

The reason I know is because I have been looking for a job within the field of Marketing/Advertising for quite some time now and decided to hand in my resum to companies through monster.com. Unfortunately, although monster.com is not necessarily affiliated with these companies and is actually a great website, online job searching websites are breeding grounds for scam companies. I was contacted by the aforementioned companies and was able to find the ripoffreport of MMW and Niko Group before going to the interviews. I immediately cancelled the interview after reading what a ripoff these companies were and told them that I would never work for their company. Unfortunately, I actually wasted my time in attending an interview with J.T. Advertising not too long ago, but thankfully (thanks to this website) I was able to pin-point the B.S. and left the interview, telling them that I wasn't interested in the job. The following is a list of events that happened at the interview. The points with a * next to them are points that I would like the reader to compare to the tactics described by members of this website in pertinence to Miami Marketing Works, Niko Group Inc., and any other Cydcor affiliate. You will see that, although supposedly not affiliated with Cydcor or its affiliates, J.T. Advertising uses the same deceitful techniques as them and smells just as much as a rat as they do. So here we go . . .

I come to the office and notice that it is EXTREMELY tiny, about three rooms that are immensely small and a waiting area in the back with a few couches. I am greeted by a tanned-skin man in a black suit at the door and told to go to the waiting area. I go there and am greeted by a woman and told to fill out some paper-work. There were only these two people in the office. Fishy. Of course, since this company supposedly advertises for sports teams, the waiting room has a small flat-screen TV playing what else but ESPN. They do this to comfort those who come for the interview along with putting up old, cheesy "You can succeed!" posters that look thirty years old. Unfortunately, I wrote my address on the forms that they gave me but, thankfully, I omitted my Social Security Number.

The woman picks up my paper-work and tells me that I will meet the manager and, lo and behold, the manager is the guy who was sitting at the front and who greeted me in. He takes me into his tiny office and we start the interview.

The first red flag comes up when he begins to talk about the company's methods of "advertising." He says that normal advertising is a waste of money thanks to people using such things as Tivo to fast-forward through commercials. He says that J.T. Advertising's form of advertising is a lot "better" - they get people who work for them to drive around Miami, going business to business attempting to set up a deal with a company face-to-face. Now when I hear this, I immediately p***k up my ears. Other scam companies do this too. They get people to drive around in their own cars, wasting their own gas, being pretty much door-to-door salesmen.

So I am suspicious at this point, and to test him, ask if the company gives employees company cars. He informs me that they don't but that employees actually instead do car-pooling and split the costs of gas between them. But he ASSURES me that the money spent on gas is tax-deductable (see. Cydcor's tactics of making their employees lie on tax forms, very similar I suppose).

He then starts talking about how those who work for the company usually begin working for it because of the great "management" positions they have (see. Miami Marketing Works and how they promise "independent business that you will act as a manager in" which are actually just small offices). He says it in a very "impressive huh!?" tone. No, it was not impressive. He then begins to talk about what great loads of money people make there.

I ask him whether people are paid based on salary or commission. He pauses and then says "Well, let me put it to you this way, the average salary for somebody that works here is probably around 35,000 a year" and follows it by more crap. I say that I understand but ask again whether people are paid based on SALARY or COMMISSION. He dejectedly responds that they are paid based on commission but has the nerve to say "But, hey, that is A LOT better than how much you are making at the job you are working in now!" He was trying to spin it to look positive. Didn't work. My job sucks, but not enough to fall for this scam (see. Miami Marketing Works and Niko Group Inc.'s tactics of avoiding questions on salary and benefits and methods of payment based on commission).

I think that, at this point, the man saw that I was not interested and asked if I thought that working for them would be a good idea. Thanks to this website, I was able to ascertain myself that this was a scam and a waste of time and said, politely, that I have researched companies that door door-to-door sales and that pay based on commission and that I do not think that I would be interested in working for them. He apologizes for wasting my time. I thank him for the opportunity and leave.

Lesson to be learned: always do your hw before you apply to somewhere.

Sincerely,


Stopthescam
Miami, Florida
U.S.A.

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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Scam? No. Unethical business practices? Yes.

AUTHOR: Ron - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 07, 2008

I worked for J.T. Advertising when they were located in Orlando off Hanging Moss Road as well.

The business model and services provided to their clients are not scams. As was previously mentioned, the only start-up costs are your time and in some cases dignity.

You will not get an honest answer from anyone involved in the company about what/how/why they conduct their business.

They take advantage of the naivety of young, sometimes desperate people looking to join the working world with the now-classic interviews, business deals, management opportunities, etc. (the one that always got me was never explaining why they answer the phone simply as "marketing", the first time or two i figured it was just one unprofessional employee, I still wonder if it was for some legal purpose or just to remain vague about the company.)

After I left J.T. Advertising, I learned that they falsely reported the earnings of an "employee" to the IRS (by tens of thousands of dollars). "Employee" because everyone who works there is actually an independent contractor.

A good portion of the people that I worked with in Orlando have spread throughout the country and opened their own identical businesses. There are reports on this website and others about more than a few of them.

They would probably receive less complaints/consumer reports if they shifted their target "employee" demographic and were less prone to giving people the run-around.

The best thing I took from the experience was to do more thorough research on future prospective employers.

I'de be interested to hear why J.T. Advertising no longer has an office in Orlando.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Scam? No. Unethical business practices? Yes.

AUTHOR: Ron - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 07, 2008

I worked for J.T. Advertising when they were located in Orlando off Hanging Moss Road as well.

The business model and services provided to their clients are not scams. As was previously mentioned, the only start-up costs are your time and in some cases dignity.

You will not get an honest answer from anyone involved in the company about what/how/why they conduct their business.

They take advantage of the naivety of young, sometimes desperate people looking to join the working world with the now-classic interviews, business deals, management opportunities, etc. (the one that always got me was never explaining why they answer the phone simply as "marketing", the first time or two i figured it was just one unprofessional employee, I still wonder if it was for some legal purpose or just to remain vague about the company.)

After I left J.T. Advertising, I learned that they falsely reported the earnings of an "employee" to the IRS (by tens of thousands of dollars). "Employee" because everyone who works there is actually an independent contractor.

A good portion of the people that I worked with in Orlando have spread throughout the country and opened their own identical businesses. There are reports on this website and others about more than a few of them.

They would probably receive less complaints/consumer reports if they shifted their target "employee" demographic and were less prone to giving people the run-around.

The best thing I took from the experience was to do more thorough research on future prospective employers.

I'de be interested to hear why J.T. Advertising no longer has an office in Orlando.

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You aren't right but you aren't wrong

AUTHOR: Bill - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 11, 2008

I'll start by saying that I used to work at J.T. Advertising in Orlando, FL back in the summer of 2003 for about 2.5 months. They were located at Hanging Moss Rd near to U. of Central FL. I started because I was looking for full time work and I found them online in the Orlando Sentinel job listings. Being a door-to-door salesman was certainly not the easiest job I've ever done but I do not regret it for the experience.

J.T. Advertising is a private company which is under the umbrella of Smart Circle International smartcircleinternational. formerly known as Granton Marketing, which is a division of DS Max.

I assure you that this is not a "scam". Were you to work for J.T. Advertising, you would be selling legitimate products, mostly coupons and other discount services, for large companies. When working there I sold coupons for Papa John's Pizza, Tire Kingdom, and other smaller restaurants as well. Sales are mostly done in residential neighborhoods, although smaller businesses can also be visited. You are given the merchandise on consignment and are not penalized for what you do not sell. You keep a fixed amount of money for each piece you sell, depending on the total cost. Generally, it was $9 per $20 piece sold and a daily goal of making $100 per day was pushed strongly by the management.

I would not call this company a scam. I was not required to put out any money out of pocket, in fact in my first week I was guaranteed $50 cash per day. The business is really defined as multi-level marketing, or MLM. Some people refer to them as scams, and certainly some are, but this particular business is not. I won't get into the common complaints of MLMs because they vary widely, but the less scrupulous ones require initial monetary investment and all certainly require large amounts of time investment.

I say it is not a scam because I did not lose anything by working there except my time, and I did make the promised commission off all of my sales. I also believe that the few people who do very well will make good money, however due to the nature of MLM companies, the numbers are quite against you. I have since been working in the field of engineering so I have left the promises of MLM behind. Still, I felt the need to clarify the nature of this business because I do not regret participating for the short time that I did. Selling coupons door-to-door certainly is an interesting experience for a 19 year old. Some people could stand to learn a bit from it, I sure did.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

How do you call a company a scam that you met for 5 minutes?

AUTHOR: Tonydanza - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 06, 2007

I'm curious as to how you can call this company a scam. The man that interviewed you told you exactly what the company does and is all about. He did not decieve you in any way. I used to work for that company and don't have any complaints what so ever. From what you described, you didn't meet with the owner of the company but rather one of the assistant managers

T.V. commercials are extremely expensive and most individuals do change the channel or TIVO when a commercial is on. All J.T. Advertising does is bridge that gap and drive traffic flow into these companies. Maybe to you, field work or going business to business is a scam to you, but I don't belive all the companies that they do business with would do business with them if it wasn't effective. Go to their website jtadvertising.com and look at some of the testimonials of clients. Something must be going on right. You asked about salary and what not. I know the owner does different things with different individuals. Essentially there might have been a salary involved for you. I don't know that though, that would be up to the owner.

Miami marketing works and Niko group have absolutely no affiliation what so ever with J.T. Advertising. So why even compare. They don't even represent the same companies. You said that J.T. Advertising tries to go business to business and set up deals when in fact they don't set up any deals whatsoever. You're merely going on what some person wrote about another company on rip-off.

It just seems to me, you have no clue what you're talking about. You said in your statement "(see. Miami Marketing Works and Niko Group Inc.'s tactics of avoiding questions on salary and benefits and methods of payment based on commission)."
The tan skinned man as you put it that did your interview didn't avoid any question whatsoever.

The man wasn't rude to you and in fact you thanked him for the opportunity and left. It just doesn't seem right for you to come on here and call that company a scam based on what you read about other companies.

Again I worked there for a long time and can say nothing but great things. I learned a hell of a lot and I wish that there were more people like the owner Jared Tacher in this world. His attitude is one that I have never seen before. Also, thanks to the training I received at J.T. Advertising, my current employer loves the work that I do.

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