NOSS NOSS123 Number One Success System NOSS123.com Desperate To Keep Illegal Gifting Scam Afloat NOSS123 Threatens Ex-Member Kapolei Hawaii

Chris, Mal is truly despicable and a complete liar. I highly doubt that she paid anyone back, because you obviously were her latest victim. Maybe she is only regifting those who are listed with her, but then where are the hoards of people to attest to her kindness?

Chris,
If I was was her, would I be telling you to report her and NOSS123 to the BBB, FTC, and Attorney General. If you and others who have lost money in this scam do this then you may have a chance to get some of your money back if the FTC decides to go after the leaders of this club.

This Mal didn't even go through the appropriate procedures that NOSS123 instructs. Of course these appropriate procedures try to make an illegal transaction look legal (FTC definition). This is yet another reason not to join these illegal pyramid gifting schemes, you never know who you are dealing with. Most of these internet money making schemes attract the greediest people around who are about getting as much money as possible from whoever they can.

I would suggest to you Chris, to file a complaint with the FTC. You can go to their website and they have directions on how to do this (Just do a search on "Gifting Club" on their website). I would also file a complaint with your state's Attorney General as well as the Better Business Bureau and describe exactly what happend with your interaction with Mal and NOSS123. This will put NOSS123 on the Government's sights and when criminal charges start to be filed they may make the perpetrators of this scheme pay back the money they received, as they did in other cases such as these. Good Luck Chris.

Look at the writing styles and its the exact same mal nice try you have to choose to be a different person from the same state leave it to a scam artist to play that game you will never learn and will always be a scumbag and a thief con artist and as i said before you and you con artist partnet Barry gilliam with your new scam program the welloffnetwork with never get by me with any of your crap im on you like theres no tommorro and with any luck for you there wont be any tommorro so good like with your scamming as i will not stop coming after you never

i signed nothing no gifting statement or anything didnt even get a number for being a member from her she was gone as soon as she had the dough nothing was complete except her deception period. Had i signed such and got to be a member and not just racked over the coals i wouldnt be so mad but the ladys a thief plain and simple

Chris, you gave Mal a gift pf 3500 dollars without expectation of a promised return what-so-ever. The money is a GIFT between 2 consenting adults in a private manner. Didn't you say or sign something to this affect when you gave your gift?

The IRS defines a Gift as the following:
"Gifts include money and property, including the use of property without expecting to receive something of equal value in return"

and yet you now state the following:

- "she talked me right into spending 3500.00"
- "i was screwed over "
- "mals greed as we all can see is pretty plain"
- "shes a plain old thief "
- "I simply want revenge at her for robbing me"
- "Who in there right mind would trust this thief with anymore money so she can call me anything she wants the fact is she stole 3500.00 from me "
- "your simply a con artist scumbag thief"
- "you havent paid anything back to u took there money just like mine and run off with it just like the thief you are"

When I gave a gift of 100 dollars to my niece for her Birthday last month I didn't come on ripoffreport and start calling her "a thief", "she stole from me", "she robbed me", "she's a con artist". It's suppose to be a good feeling to give. Could it be Chris, that you were exepecting some type of material return for your gift? If this is the case then it wouldn't be considered a gift by the IRS. Food for thought folks.

One she contacted me and gave me a very good story and yes she has been in noss for a long period of time and is a trainer so she talked me right into spending 3500.00 only as soon as she gets my money she starts this s**t here on the ripoff forum while im asking for my money back and getting no where with her. She flat out tells me too bad you started at a bad time for whom i say its painfully abvious for Mal so I never even got to start in the program before i was screwed over and ive talked to lots of others in the program who are doing great its got nothing to do with noss itself its only got to do with one thief having a fight with someone on the inside of noss and then trying to ruin them as she likes to claim thats whats being done to her and it is strictly by me. Whos out to get her over her actions as you kindly pointed out before nick had she helped any of the folks she wanted to help they would have all made good with the program but mis mals greed as we all can see is pretty plain. So let it be know im not going to stop till she gets whats coming to her and her new program the new scam program the welloffnetwork so nick I hope this helped you as far as her and the attorney general she heard that crap for several years and it never stopped her and they say it about all programs on the internet so its got nothing to do with it other then shes a plain old thief and now is scared that her just deserts coming her way and boy is it

Hi Chris,
Break it down for me could you. Just how did she steal from you?

Thanks
Nick

Hi Chris,
Break it down for me could you. Just how did she steal from you?

Thanks
Nick

Hi Chris,
Break it down for me could you. Just how did she steal from you?

Thanks
Nick

Hi Chris,
Break it down for me could you. Just how did she steal from you?

Thanks
Nick

Nick this is simply a matter of a thief named mal stealing from everyone she could then bashing the program after she robbed all the folks she could as for me being a member in noss im no member in it I simply want revenge at her for robbing me and then having the balls to come on here and lie and say shes been threatened she is being threatened by me im out for her blood get that right mal.

But most importantly is her odasity to come on here and try to sell her new program the welloffnetwork just like the thief she is read her original statement she wasnt trying to push a new program and she didnt have one ect all lies her and her smam artist partner Barry gilliam had it going the whole time do u see her giving back money she stole hell no.

Who in there right mind would trust this thief with anymore money so she can call me anything she wants the fact is she stole 3500.00 from me and im going to get even shes never going to sell s**t as long as im alive on the internet and mal its no threat the mail campaigns running soon just for you and Barry

So Mal,
Let me see if I have got your story straight.
You gifted to an inviter in noss
You tried to go it alone, but quickly realized how hard it is to sell this
So you joined with the winners in noss and became a trainer
You obviously were then able to attract people who were willing to join
When they didn't get anywhere after starting in at the $500 level you brushed aside their negativity and enticed them to go for the $1000 and $2000 level anyway. When they did this (or didn't do this) and things still didn't go well for them you abandoned them and went on to the next victim.
Your guilt for not helping them persist in noss is what led you to where you are now.

Are you saying that not one of the people that you got started in noss ever made it work?

So I must think that you stopped at some point to find out what was the hold up because in theory noss is a great system and should work easily for everyone. So some one told you to go to your AG's office. The AG's office told you of how pyramid schemes work and that noss was a pyramid. I doubt you believed this because noss is not a pyramid under any structure that you could find.

From your lack of fear from the AG's office is it safe to assume that even though they could not prove that NOSS is a pyramid scheme, that they wanted to procecuted you anyway because of your actions while in the NOSS and you are now to paying volluntary restitution for your involvment in noss "or else"?

The fault did not lie with noss, but it is with you and your actions.
If you stopped to help your fellow noss members then you wouldn't be in this mess.

Please feel free to correct me if any of the above is wrong

My problems not with noss but with you the thief mal and your wild claims that you have settled with all us folks is just one more lie from you you havent settled with me or many others your simply a con artist scumbag thief.

And you and your new program with your scam partner Barry Gilliam im not going to rest till Your in jail where you belong and im hiring a email company to spread the word about you and barry and the welloffnetwork.And im going to post names and addresses of your clients that you havent paid anything back to u took there money just like mine and run off with it just like the thief you are.

So lets see how well your program is going to do with the next round of attacks on you and him and your program. And just so you know i could care less about noss either this is about you and my money scumbag.


sample of email ad to run soon

Publice service anouncement

This is to inform you the general internet about a scam organization run by a group of scammers.

The name of the program is http://welloffnetwork.com/index.php
this is run by the well known thiefs and scammers Barry Gilliam And Malchishuah Giddings-Phillips.

If you recieve anything by these individuals please repond by reporting to f.t.c
the F.B.I the attorney general office in your state and the attorney general in the state of Ga.

If you have more questions contact your local law enforecement but do not send these people any of your hard earned money at all.

Nick, I believe you and your team player, Chris, are doing more harm to your program, NOSS123, than your human eye can see. Your participation is appreciated.

Chris, your attacks are fruitless. I believe our line of argument has come to a close.

I thank you in advance for your assistance in the demise of NOSS. You admitted several times over, that I stole your money while we were both members of NOSS. This bolsters my argument that NOSS is a scam. You are contradicting every thing that you claim NOSS stands for.

You and I both recognize that NOSS are full of thieves. I was once a part of this illegal organization, and at that time, I was not exempt from such titles.

I want to add, if I may, your voice mail message in which you made theatening remarks. You may listen to this voice mail message by dialing 218-936-1005, pin no. 66781#.

Chris, I do not know who you are. You may want to note that I have settled with each of my receiving lines (persons who joined with me in NOSS). I had a working relationship with these individuals, and I know each of them by name.

It amazes me how you have my telephone number, yet the only time you have decided to call, were to make threats. If somehow you fell through the crack, or anyone else who have joined with me at NOSS, while I was a member, give me a call directly so that we can resolve this matter promptly. Feel at liberty to report me to your Attorney General as well. In fact, it is my recommendation.

Nick, I believe you and your team player, Chris, are doing more harm to your program, NOSS123, than your human eye can see. Your participation is appreciated.

Chris, your attacks are fruitless. I believe our line of argument has come to a close.

I thank you in advance for your assistance in the demise of NOSS. You admitted several times over, that I stole your money while we were both members of NOSS. This bolsters my argument that NOSS is a scam. You are contradicting every thing that you claim NOSS stands for.

You and I both recognize that NOSS are full of thieves. I was once a part of this illegal organization, and at that time, I was not exempt from such titles.

I want to add, if I may, your voice mail message in which you made theatening remarks. You may listen to this voice mail message by dialing 218-936-1005, pin no. 66781#.

Chris, I do not know who you are. You may want to note that I have settled with each of my receiving lines (persons who joined with me in NOSS). I had a working relationship with these individuals, and I know each of them by name.

It amazes me how you have my telephone number, yet the only time you have decided to call, were to make threats. If somehow you fell through the crack, or anyone else who have joined with me at NOSS, while I was a member, give me a call directly so that we can resolve this matter promptly. Feel at liberty to report me to your Attorney General as well. In fact, it is my recommendation.

Mal,
Chris doesn't speak for all of us. On the contrary I think your comments are at least thought provoking. I apologize for him because I can see that he is irate at your actions in the past and now.

Let me ask you something. Did anyone who has persisted in NOSS ever lose any money? Did you lose money? Isn't it true that the only people who lost money in NOSS are those who gave up and did not persist? If the 2 above statements are true, then no fraud charges can be claimed against NOSS.

Also your claim that NOSS is an Illegal Pyramid are totally unfounded. Just compare NOSS' structure to every government agency's description of a Pyramid Scheme. NOSS will not collapse because of your defamation here or because new people who are interested in NOSS decide not to do so. WHY? It is because everyone who is already in NOSS cannot and will not lose money even if no new people apply to NOSS. Only those who just got in and are scared away by your scare tatics will lose.
Hre are 2 sites that show you exactly the structure of a pyramid scheme. If you persist in them you will lose, if you persist in NOSS you will win. That's the bottom line difference?
http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.shtm
http://www.sec.gov/answers/pyramid.htm