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Complaint Review: Oklahoma City DHS - Oklahoma city Oklahoma
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- Oklahoma City DHS 5905 N Classen Oklahoma city, Oklahoma United States of America
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Oklahoma City DHS Dont understand how DHS can take my kids and wont give them back, but how i can get my niece and her son and they are in DHS custody Oklahoma city, Oklahoma
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I needed and wanted to get my story out. It all started Nov of 2008, I took my second oldest son to Saint Anthony's for behavioral issues that he was having at school, and sometimes at home. First i want to say that he was on meds for ADHD, and sleeping disorder which he had been on meds at the time for about 4 years at the time already and it still wasnt helping and he would see a counselor only when he would get his meds refilled and i felt that he needed more counseling then what they was giving him, so thats why i took him there to begin with, so while we are there they tell me that they want to impatient him and he would have to stay for 6 months or more depended on how he was while he was there, well my being a mother that has never had her children out of the home unless it was for a weekend with my sister i just couldnt leave my son there, and i explained to the nurse that and i asked her if she could give me some numbers to some outpatient programs, or some other counselors seens the one he was going to just wasnt helping, and she said yes that she would give me a call the next day with the information that i requested.
So the next day i called to talk to her and i was informed that she was off that day, and i asked if they could help me and they said that they would have someone call me, so i waited and no one had called, and on a normal day i would have been at work but took off, so i would be available when the lady called, and seens i didnt go to work i decided that i would go and get the kids from school a little early to bet the crowd for other parent from picking their kids so while im waiting for my kids to come down 2 DHS workers come in and go to the back office, and so the kids come down and we leave, and while im driving to go pick up my other 2 kids at daycare i asked how there day went and if they had homework, and then they informed me that 2 Dhs workers came and talked to them today at school, and was just asking them questions about where they lived and who they lived with, so by this time i get to the daycare to get my other 2 kids and i ended up going to my fathers to tell him about all of this and while i was there my aunt calls me and tells me that i needed to come to her house and that DHS and the police was there, and they wanted me to bring the kids so the could ask them more questions.
So i went and talked to them and i was informed that the hospital is the one who called and reported me, and while out talking to my children they was also imformed that my oldest son was touching my oldest daughter in a sexual way, and that he had went in her room before and layed on top off, and by this time i was speechless and didnt know what to say or to think, but while the lady was telling me this she then changed her story twice, it went from first my son telling them that he did this to her and then when they questioned her for a couple of hours she eventually told them that yes he did do this to her, then it went from her just telling them and him saying that it wasnt true, so after learning of this they told me i had two choices i could either have the kids brought to my aunts so they could be placed into custody, or to wait until monday and they would have a warrant for my arrest, and then it would be harder to get my kids back, so i had my father drop them off.
So when we go to the first hearing i was told by the judge that i would need to start and do half of whatever classes they wanted me to then my children could return back home, and after court i got with the caseworker which was kathy butler, and she told me to wait until they give me a list of what i needed to do in order for my children to be returned, and i told her no that i wanted to start my classes soon and i would take what ever class they could offer me even if they didnt recommend me to, so i ended up taking a parenting class, and anger management, and at the same time i did counseling alone so i could find away to cope with my children being taking and cope with what my son was doing to my daughter, and also a non offender program that helps you look for sign of a sexually abused child, and also how to be able to talk to your child when they have been abused, but to speed up things i did everything they asked and more within four months of my children being removed and after four months i went to 2 other classes with my kids and went to counseling with them,
So about a year and half went by and they still wasnt home but i got unsupervised visits and overnight visits on the wkends with 2 of them and while i had a unsupervised visit with one of them, a friend asked me to pick up some beer, so not really thinking i did and i dropped it off to him seens he stayed in the same apts as i did, so later we go to the pool to go swimming and they came out there and was talking to me, so later my son told the caseworker and she cut off my unsupervised visits until we went to court, and then i got my unsupervised visits back with the 2, and had to sign a note stating that i wouldn't have no one around them unless they was approved by DHS, so about another 8 months went by and then my friend ended up coming to the house to get his jacket and then about a week or so later i ended up taking him to the store and then back home while i had 2 of my kids with me, and once again i got all visits taking and then they tried to go to terminate seens it been over a year seens the kids was removed, but the grounds that they was trying to terminate was for that i didnt have enough money to raise them and that i talked to two of my children about how would they fell if i give my sister temporary guardianship of them, which they were 12, and 9 at the time.
But it was ok for my caseworker to tell my 12 year old son that his mother and father rights where going to be terminated and asked him if he knew what she meant by termination, and he told her yes, then he called my crying and told me what she said, so i told him dont worry about what she said and that i would take care of it. and i called her and went off on her for doing that and when we went back to court and brought up about me talking to my kids about it, i made sure i told the judge what she had told my son, and the judge told her that she wasnt able to do that. but the judge which was judge Kirby told her that wasnt a good enough reason to terminate so he told me i could either go with the guardianship and when my sister thought i was ready for my children to be returned then we could petition the court to do that, or we could take it to jury trial and let them decide.
And with the guardianship my sister would be the only one to say when i could see my kids and how often my kids would be able to come and stay with my as long as they wasnt here more then 6 days a week, so i thought this would work better for us just to get DHS out the picture, so thats what we did. so that took place in Feb 2011, and then the review would be a year after that. so while we waited until the review to come up every weekend and holidays my kids where with me, and then in may i ended up getting my other sisters kids and then going down to file a guardianship on them with the county court house and that was granted, then a few days later i ended up getting custody of my niece from DHS custody, from another judge from the same court house that i was dealing with, with my own children and yes he know that my kids was in Dhs custody then they went into a guardianship with my sister and that the case was still open for a yearly review, but he still granted me custody of her and her unborn child and she had just turned 15 years old. so 7 months goes by and we go back to court for my children, and i was told by the same judge that even though i have others kids that i raise and that lives with me, that my own children will never return back home, and which he wouldnt say why, and just told me that if i wanted any more advice that i would need to seek advice from an attorney, but i told him i dont understand how i can get 4 other kids and 2 of them are in DHS custody and 2 are through the county court house, and he still told me the same thing, and told my sister the case is being closed, but that she could not allow the children to returned back home, and that it was up to her if she wanted me to see my kids.
So i dont understand if i gave my sister guardianship of them for a year until we had to go back for a review, and they didnt take away my rights and im still paying child support every week of $102.00. and been paying that seens 1 month after they went into custody. But i dont know who i need to contact to see if they could help with opening my case back up and too see where everything went wrong at, yes i know i messed up on two different times, and i can admit to that but that still doesnt give them a reason to not let my kids come back home for good, but although they can come and stay every wkend and other times. This all doesnt make sense to me. So if someone can please help me in any way i would love to hear, cause i have done everything that i can think of.
So the next day i called to talk to her and i was informed that she was off that day, and i asked if they could help me and they said that they would have someone call me, so i waited and no one had called, and on a normal day i would have been at work but took off, so i would be available when the lady called, and seens i didnt go to work i decided that i would go and get the kids from school a little early to bet the crowd for other parent from picking their kids so while im waiting for my kids to come down 2 DHS workers come in and go to the back office, and so the kids come down and we leave, and while im driving to go pick up my other 2 kids at daycare i asked how there day went and if they had homework, and then they informed me that 2 Dhs workers came and talked to them today at school, and was just asking them questions about where they lived and who they lived with, so by this time i get to the daycare to get my other 2 kids and i ended up going to my fathers to tell him about all of this and while i was there my aunt calls me and tells me that i needed to come to her house and that DHS and the police was there, and they wanted me to bring the kids so the could ask them more questions.
So i went and talked to them and i was informed that the hospital is the one who called and reported me, and while out talking to my children they was also imformed that my oldest son was touching my oldest daughter in a sexual way, and that he had went in her room before and layed on top off, and by this time i was speechless and didnt know what to say or to think, but while the lady was telling me this she then changed her story twice, it went from first my son telling them that he did this to her and then when they questioned her for a couple of hours she eventually told them that yes he did do this to her, then it went from her just telling them and him saying that it wasnt true, so after learning of this they told me i had two choices i could either have the kids brought to my aunts so they could be placed into custody, or to wait until monday and they would have a warrant for my arrest, and then it would be harder to get my kids back, so i had my father drop them off.
So when we go to the first hearing i was told by the judge that i would need to start and do half of whatever classes they wanted me to then my children could return back home, and after court i got with the caseworker which was kathy butler, and she told me to wait until they give me a list of what i needed to do in order for my children to be returned, and i told her no that i wanted to start my classes soon and i would take what ever class they could offer me even if they didnt recommend me to, so i ended up taking a parenting class, and anger management, and at the same time i did counseling alone so i could find away to cope with my children being taking and cope with what my son was doing to my daughter, and also a non offender program that helps you look for sign of a sexually abused child, and also how to be able to talk to your child when they have been abused, but to speed up things i did everything they asked and more within four months of my children being removed and after four months i went to 2 other classes with my kids and went to counseling with them,
So about a year and half went by and they still wasnt home but i got unsupervised visits and overnight visits on the wkends with 2 of them and while i had a unsupervised visit with one of them, a friend asked me to pick up some beer, so not really thinking i did and i dropped it off to him seens he stayed in the same apts as i did, so later we go to the pool to go swimming and they came out there and was talking to me, so later my son told the caseworker and she cut off my unsupervised visits until we went to court, and then i got my unsupervised visits back with the 2, and had to sign a note stating that i wouldn't have no one around them unless they was approved by DHS, so about another 8 months went by and then my friend ended up coming to the house to get his jacket and then about a week or so later i ended up taking him to the store and then back home while i had 2 of my kids with me, and once again i got all visits taking and then they tried to go to terminate seens it been over a year seens the kids was removed, but the grounds that they was trying to terminate was for that i didnt have enough money to raise them and that i talked to two of my children about how would they fell if i give my sister temporary guardianship of them, which they were 12, and 9 at the time.
But it was ok for my caseworker to tell my 12 year old son that his mother and father rights where going to be terminated and asked him if he knew what she meant by termination, and he told her yes, then he called my crying and told me what she said, so i told him dont worry about what she said and that i would take care of it. and i called her and went off on her for doing that and when we went back to court and brought up about me talking to my kids about it, i made sure i told the judge what she had told my son, and the judge told her that she wasnt able to do that. but the judge which was judge Kirby told her that wasnt a good enough reason to terminate so he told me i could either go with the guardianship and when my sister thought i was ready for my children to be returned then we could petition the court to do that, or we could take it to jury trial and let them decide.
And with the guardianship my sister would be the only one to say when i could see my kids and how often my kids would be able to come and stay with my as long as they wasnt here more then 6 days a week, so i thought this would work better for us just to get DHS out the picture, so thats what we did. so that took place in Feb 2011, and then the review would be a year after that. so while we waited until the review to come up every weekend and holidays my kids where with me, and then in may i ended up getting my other sisters kids and then going down to file a guardianship on them with the county court house and that was granted, then a few days later i ended up getting custody of my niece from DHS custody, from another judge from the same court house that i was dealing with, with my own children and yes he know that my kids was in Dhs custody then they went into a guardianship with my sister and that the case was still open for a yearly review, but he still granted me custody of her and her unborn child and she had just turned 15 years old. so 7 months goes by and we go back to court for my children, and i was told by the same judge that even though i have others kids that i raise and that lives with me, that my own children will never return back home, and which he wouldnt say why, and just told me that if i wanted any more advice that i would need to seek advice from an attorney, but i told him i dont understand how i can get 4 other kids and 2 of them are in DHS custody and 2 are through the county court house, and he still told me the same thing, and told my sister the case is being closed, but that she could not allow the children to returned back home, and that it was up to her if she wanted me to see my kids.
So i dont understand if i gave my sister guardianship of them for a year until we had to go back for a review, and they didnt take away my rights and im still paying child support every week of $102.00. and been paying that seens 1 month after they went into custody. But i dont know who i need to contact to see if they could help with opening my case back up and too see where everything went wrong at, yes i know i messed up on two different times, and i can admit to that but that still doesnt give them a reason to not let my kids come back home for good, but although they can come and stay every wkend and other times. This all doesnt make sense to me. So if someone can please help me in any way i would love to hear, cause i have done everything that i can think of.
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#1 General Comment
I UNDERSTAND!
AUTHOR: HSquared_Mommy1989 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 09, 2012
I understand your frustration. I have had my fair share of issues with DHS. I have actually filed a ripoff report as well against Canadian County DHS. I hate to tell you that I do not have answers for you. And I am sorry for that. If you are or were ever a victim of domestic violence The YWCA has great advocated that will help you in any way they can. I know DHS is very corrupt and does not make sense with most of what they do. I had an attorney (Thank God). If it were not for my attorney there is no telling if I ever would have got my kids back. And they were taken from me only because my husband beat me up in front of them and threatened to kill us all. They said I failed to protect. I am sorry for your situation and can at least offer my sympathy to your situation. I hope things get better for you.
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