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Complaint Review: PoetryScams.com - Internet Internet

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My husband has just received another email from Jeff Paris despite we have requested he not contact us. I see nothing that requests that Jeff Paris end things privately, quite the contrary and you will see this when you read the emails sent from him to me.

I have know Jeff Paris for quite some time and was very impressed with his business PoetryScams.com and Literacy Escape until a couple months ago when everything changed my outlook about him and how dishonest he operates his businesses.

He lists business on his site as scams, or run by immortal webmasters or fraudulent business if you don't provide a link to him or if you upset him.

I find it quite strange that he would compare himself to rip off report. He likes to run in the circle of the big guys and blames his harassment behind Borderline Personality Disorder and Adult Autism. One must take responsibility for their actions.

He sends abusing emails etc, I have an entire inbox of emails and can provide full header that comes from his IP address to both my husband and I.

He black listed my website Todays-Woman Inc on his poetry scams for no reason. Our website is not a scam. We are a free online community with a solid one year reputation. Our site is ran solely on donations and we make no profit from a free community that we run.

He says that he provides information for scams he has investigated, yet has no solid evidence backing this that todays-woman.net is a scam.

This report I have filed is not to get back at Jeff Paris it is about his dishonesty as a website / business owner and his ongoing harassment of other website owners.

The administrator of literacy escape contacted me last month regarding our link to him on todays-woman that he could not find it and it was not accessible by Google bots. I sent him a Google cache of our website showing him Google did pick up his link.

He then apologized to me the link was there, after jumping to conclusion and sending me a previous nasty email. You will still see the Google cache where we were linked to LiteraryEscape.com

Shortly after this he listed on his website PoetryScams.com as bad to do business with. I have gone to Jeff Paris and asked for the situation to be resolved. I have copies of all email communications between he and I. I have logged ip addresses where he has used my feedback form to harass me. I have banned his IP and he has reset it to come through a different IP. He has removed us from his black-list only to put us right back on again.

Here is a list of sites owned under his domain name.

ZeroFunk.com
LiteraryEscape.com
Poetrylessons.com
Poetryscams.com
submityourpoetry.com
poetsportal.com
FreeOnlineBlogs.Com

Only recently from filing this report and him getting word of this has he updated his site to include his wife's information. Jeff Paris states inaccurate information on his website when he states that I have no experience in poetry or compassion for online users. I think todays-woman reputation and our testimonials will speak for itself and my accomplishments of having my own book published since the opening of todays-woman.
Despite several emails requesting that Jeff Paris end all contact with us he has once again contacted us to send us a copy of his reply to this report like I stated before.

I have all evidence of harassment, dishonesty , libel , slanderous and his trying to sell open source scripts he has Ripped off from the net from sites sorceforge.net this and will provide it to any willing parties that require a screen capture , logs or emails, full header included.

I have stated what I needed to on this I have no more statements at this time.

Rose
Belleville, Ontario
Canada

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#8 Consumer Suggestion

OMFG...

AUTHOR: Steven - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Rose,this guy here is ****ing with you.
The BPD and the autism, especially the latter, are smoke and {expletive} mirrors.

Do yourself a favor: contact the authorities.
As for Jeff, he can get screwed, for all I care.

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Literature forums and Literature Vault are not owned by Jeff Paris and Chrispian Burks of Literature Vault and Sean of Incka Limited (Literature Vault) are no way associated with Jeff Paris

AUTHOR: Rose - (Canada)

POSTED: Sunday, December 19, 2004

Literature forums and Literature Vault are not owned by Jeff Paris and Chrispian Burks of Literature Vault and Sean of Incka Limited (Literature Vault) are no way associated with Jeff Paris they were only websites that linked to him. Therefore I would like to make a formal apology of my misunderstanding that these sites were Jeff's and I recommend that Writers both visit Literature Forums and Literature Vaults as both names have been removed from Todays-Woman black list of sites owned by Mr.Paris

Sites owned by Mr.Paris are

ZeroFunk.com
LiteraryEscape.com
Poetrylessons.com
Poetryscams.com
submityourpoetry.com
poetsportal.com
FreeOnlineBlogs.Com

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Please stop this.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 15, 2004

I removed you from poetryscams.com's "questionable sites list". I hope this clears everything up. I truly hope you are done being dishonest and turning everything around onto me. Also, yes, you banned the entire U.S. Military Installation here, in Keflavik. That is about 5000 people.

I have also given your ip addresses from my server logs to the webmasters of the sites where you pretended to be other people in order to give people a bad impression of me. 2 of them have verified that your ip address matched the ip addresses I have for you. Nick from sevengraff will most likely check his site control panel and verify that you are the person who told everyone that I steal software and make it look like my own, when really, I have proven to Nick, the author of the "New Life Blogger" months ago, that I am a competent php programmer and he has seen some of the code I have written as open source for him to include into his software.

I have not turned against your site with lies. Though I can not prove circumstantial incidents, I do not need to because I have 2 webmasters that can prove via server logs that you have intentionally signed up under false names, to their websites while trying to discredit me and my Wife.

As far as what you said on your website, I have not "taken control of my wife's website". My wife and I split our relationship 50/50 and I respect her and she respects me. We have a mutually beneficial marriage and we care about each other. Your attacking my marriage only shows how small you really are. I have never attacked your marriage or personal life, and it really distresses me that you would sink so low, as to discredit me as a husband and a father. My family means a lot to me, which is why I removed you from the visible blacklist, because your attacks are stressing us out tremendously because you won't stop bothering us with your accusations and personal attacks. I would rather swallow my pride, as I have done by removing you, than put up with you childishly attacking my wife and I.

I emailed you husband yesterday and told him that if he removed the lies you placed onto your site, I would remove the listing for you, from poetryscams.com I think it is now your turn to swallow your pride and follow suit. Can you swallow you pride and stop being dishonest or will you keep this childish dispute going?

I am still curious how you think a webmaster is a cheater and a scam simply for running multiple FREE websites and personal websites.

Again, if you have legitimate complaints regarding our site, I have plenty of time to discuss the matters with you. My wife and I do not wish to make anyone feel that poetryscams.com is biased or illegitimate and I would love to know your thoughts on the sites if you truly think they are scams. However, attacking my family and my own character is not legitimate, especially since you know nothing about me or my family.

To the owners of this site, I ask you to no longer allow this person, Rose, to attack me as a person at this site. If she has a problem with me as a person, she needs to discuss this with me and not try to convince the world that I am a bad person. I spend time with my daughter, teaching her about love and kindness. I donate to various charities. I volunteer when I can to help different causes like the American Red Cross and the (Painful) National Bone Marrow Donor Program. I discuss every night with my wife the reasons I love her and she does the same with me. I help any person that asks me for help. So for once I would like you to recognize that you could possibly have the wrong idea of me and my family and the very helpful free websites we run. Is it so much to ask? Just at least stop going to my favorite websites and trying to convince my friends that I am not who I have proven time and time again to be, a caring and responsible person who constantly helps anyone who needs help, even if it is inconvenient.

Just please stop this. Please. You really are freaking us out, and I am not saying that just to be saying it. Please don't force me to get a restraining order against you, that is such overkill for a situation that easily could just be a misunderstanding, as my wife tried to tell you before you deleted her polite message to you for peace, that it could be just a misunderstanding on your part.

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My Reply to PoetryScams.com

AUTHOR: Rose - (Canada)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 14, 2004

I'm Rose DesRochers the Individual Jeff Paris has tried to slander in his Rebuttal to my report on his business ethnics. To day Tuesday December 14th 2004 Jeff Paris has my company listed on his blacklist of sites. He has slanderous and libel content about me on his website stating that I have edited the letters received from him, untrue and can provide full header to any isp provider , editor of staff of rip off report , or lawyer. I have not changed my dynamic ip address as you have to spoof it and I have no knowledge how to Ip spoof.

I have not banned the entire Country of Iceland , My husband shawn banned their ( being Mr. Jeff Paris and his wife's)Isp from entering the website. Because his wife were able to get their Dynamic Isp and ban it.

He quotes I broke a link agreement with poetryscams.com and all I did was request my link be removed from his site and I removed his link, as he violated our terms of service. Literacy-escape did not loose any money do to my report and if so I would like to see evidence of this , do you not need to provide proof of that before you can list it. If not it is hear say.

He black lists us because we have removed accounts from Todays-woman , that is like blacklisting an isp provider because they shut down accounts that violate their terms of service again hear say evidence by my past members who were removed for violating toss.

He requests us to make a formal apology to a community that supports us 100 % that is to funny and further more ,I wonder how one can list a company as a blacklist for removing poetry that violastes our toss and what does what goes on within our company have to deal with an outsider?

He states several emails were received from me that states I have sent mail sense cease was asked to be stopped. I was the one who requested he cease emailing me. My isp provider can validate when I sent my last email to him and I can vouch that my husband Shawn just received an email from Mr.Jeff Paris Sunday Dec 12th .

He reports on his site that he will be making all information available for a court case and that all materials from the future court case will be made public as per the 'Right to Information Act'. If he wants to waste his money to take me to court over this, he will be wasting his money as I have all evidence including his abusive letters to support my statements. I would not file a report unless I have other wise.
To post slanderous on a website and list a business as a scam with no solid evidence to back it is a scam in itself not to mention changing the appearance of your website to resemble the site you are black listing , all things Mr. Paris has done.

I felt seeing how Mr. Paris replied to my report with his rebuttal that I had a right to reply to my rebuttal as obviously Mr. Paris has turned this against my site with lies , and slanderous of my character as both an administrator , author and columnist by posting lies about me to back his own mistakes. How can this be resolved my only suggestion would be is he should of never black listed us in the first place, as anyone who visits poetryscams.com will see that todays-woman.net is not a scam and I have a business number with the Better Business Bureau.

I think this all started over one upset webmaster, who was mad that we removed his link from our site for breaking the toss and went on to blow a small situation out of the water and by doing so the truth came out about him as more evidence came up about how dishonest he is.

Each reply he makes here , he is just looking more dishonest.

My only other suggestion the truth will set you free. Three sides to every story my side , his side and the truth and I suggest before any one involves themselves with both business owned by him doing a background check.

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One last rebuttle.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 13, 2004

I forgot to hit on this issue.

You are speaking of your site. If this is about your site, then do not post it here. You posted based on my wife's site.

Secondly, you leave my wife out of this. She was nothing but polite with you and you banned all of Iceland just to ban her from complimenting you on the work you have done, again. You are very odd indeed, can not even take a compliment without getting mad and vengefull

Thirdly, you have a long record of deleting your users' poems that they have posted to your poetry post. Some of them were excelent pieces, also. Your members constantly post on your forums that they wish you would treat them like humans and then you delete their posts in a rage of insanity. Do us all a favor and stop lying, please, it is disturbing.

Fourthly, your site's testimonials have no contact information so your users can verify that you did not write the testimonials yourself. So, what does that tell us? That you made them up. Come on Rose, just relax and take some time off the Internet and spend time with your family and stop making your situation worse by diggin your hole deeper.

Sorry if this was mean, but I really feel sorry for you. You have so much anger in you and I am trying to explain that I have harmed you in no way. You harmed yourself, own up to it and make a change for the better. I will pray for you, Rose.

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I am sorry you are still upset.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 13, 2004

I am sorry that you are still upset, but please, contact me if you have problems with me. You are not making prgress by making faceless accusations.

I would like to hear why you think PoetryScams.Com is a scam. You say things about me as a person, but have never stated a relevant fact about PoetryScams.Com.

You are really upset because I told you that because you broke our link trade agreement I could not link exchange with you anymore. This is a matter of webmaster ettiquete. You were originally blacklisted as a bad link trade partner and the reason you are blacklisted as a dishonest site is because, Rose, you keep posting untrue and meaningless comments and attacking my family and friends.

My wife did go to your website and she posted a very polite and diplomatic message in your forum to try to settle your dispute and you banned the entire island of Iceland in return, just to keep my wife from being nice to you on your site. I read what my wife wrote to you and she even complimented on your website. So please, stop the lying.

PoetryScams.Com is listed on over 5000 websites as an unbiased and honest poetry scam resource and I have had 2 high school students requesting to borrow the site's content for school related work. So, obviously, you are the only one that thinks a site that accepts no money is a scam. The site tells honest information with solid evidence. Tell me what is a scam about that.

Maybe what is a scam is that we just showed a leap of faith and we just made LiteraryEscape.Com a free website a few hours ago, just to prove that we are not in this for money.

I recommend you read Devrie's newest article at PoetryScams.Com entitled "Can you keep from calling all poetry sites a scam?" The article is located here: http://poetryscams.com/differentiate.html

That article will tell you the difference between a scam site and a high quality website that has multiple dedicated servers, employees, and so forth.

In fact, in January, Devrie is hiring 2 new administrators and editors at LiteraryEscape.Com because we feel that a website run by a husband and wife is just not quality when regarding poetry critiques.

Again, if you have any relevant reasons as to why you call our sites a scam, we can discuss it, but after repeating yourself over and over, you are just wasting the time of this fine site's readers, webmasters, administrators, and frankly, myself.

You are the only person in our sites' 5 year history that has ever called us a scam, Rose of Todays-Woman.Net.

Again, I am sorry you are so upset, but you are the one making a fuss without showing a logical reason. You can not even tell the truth when you do it.

Please, stop wasting everyone's time. This is a fine site, and all of "us webmasters" that run scam reporting sites are always getting attacked by persons like yourself who do not realize that being honest is easier than lying and making up stories as to why you are upset. Be honest within yourself and really focus on the cause of your anger, Rose. You once told me that you suffer from "depression". Did you ever try to look in yourself and find out why?

I suffer from a borderline personality disorder and I am autistic. So, how is it that I can swallow my pride and accept that I need to focus extra hard on following the norms of society, yet you can not even control your anger? Please, just locate the cause of your anger and stop displacing it towards other webmasters. We are all in the poetry nuche for the same basic reasons, and this bickering is rediculous, to say the least.

I appologize again to Rip-OffReport.Com for this, I have tried to calm this person, but her attacks just keep coming. I also appologize to the readers, I know you would rather see warnings about true scams and not childish fibbery.

Also, Rose, everyone knows my website, please if you are going to keep this up, at least stop repeating youself. The average webmaster runs 5-10 websites. I own 39 domains. Many people own thousands. It is not a scam to run multiple websites. It is also not a scam to charge money for online services like web hsoting, as LtieraryEscape.Com does offer Geocities.Com style hosting and pagebuilding. We charge money for services, the poetry portions are free.

In closing, Rose, you are making yourself look foolish by attacking myself and every webmaster in my link trade list. Think of how a normal person views the opinionated comments you are making. You don't even state rational ideas, just ludicrous opinions that are irrelevant to what a "scam" is.

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I am sorry you are still upset.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 13, 2004

I am sorry that you are still upset, but please, contact me if you have problems with me. You are not making prgress by making faceless accusations.

I would like to hear why you think PoetryScams.Com is a scam. You say things about me as a person, but have never stated a relevant fact about PoetryScams.Com.

You are really upset because I told you that because you broke our link trade agreement I could not link exchange with you anymore. This is a matter of webmaster ettiquete. You were originally blacklisted as a bad link trade partner and the reason you are blacklisted as a dishonest site is because, Rose, you keep posting untrue and meaningless comments and attacking my family and friends.

My wife did go to your website and she posted a very polite and diplomatic message in your forum to try to settle your dispute and you banned the entire island of Iceland in return, just to keep my wife from being nice to you on your site. I read what my wife wrote to you and she even complimented on your website. So please, stop the lying.

PoetryScams.Com is listed on over 5000 websites as an unbiased and honest poetry scam resource and I have had 2 high school students requesting to borrow the site's content for school related work. So, obviously, you are the only one that thinks a site that accepts no money is a scam. The site tells honest information with solid evidence. Tell me what is a scam about that.

Maybe what is a scam is that we just showed a leap of faith and we just made LiteraryEscape.Com a free website a few hours ago, just to prove that we are not in this for money.

I recommend you read Devrie's newest article at PoetryScams.Com entitled "Can you keep from calling all poetry sites a scam?" The article is located here: http://poetryscams.com/differentiate.html

That article will tell you the difference between a scam site and a high quality website that has multiple dedicated servers, employees, and so forth.

In fact, in January, Devrie is hiring 2 new administrators and editors at LiteraryEscape.Com because we feel that a website run by a husband and wife is just not quality when regarding poetry critiques.

Again, if you have any relevant reasons as to why you call our sites a scam, we can discuss it, but after repeating yourself over and over, you are just wasting the time of this fine site's readers, webmasters, administrators, and frankly, myself.

You are the only person in our sites' 5 year history that has ever called us a scam, Rose of Todays-Woman.Net.

Again, I am sorry you are so upset, but you are the one making a fuss without showing a logical reason. You can not even tell the truth when you do it.

Please, stop wasting everyone's time. This is a fine site, and all of "us webmasters" that run scam reporting sites are always getting attacked by persons like yourself who do not realize that being honest is easier than lying and making up stories as to why you are upset. Be honest within yourself and really focus on the cause of your anger, Rose. You once told me that you suffer from "depression". Did you ever try to look in yourself and find out why?

I suffer from a borderline personality disorder and I am autistic. So, how is it that I can swallow my pride and accept that I need to focus extra hard on following the norms of society, yet you can not even control your anger? Please, just locate the cause of your anger and stop displacing it towards other webmasters. We are all in the poetry nuche for the same basic reasons, and this bickering is rediculous, to say the least.

I appologize again to Rip-OffReport.Com for this, I have tried to calm this person, but her attacks just keep coming. I also appologize to the readers, I know you would rather see warnings about true scams and not childish fibbery.

Also, Rose, everyone knows my website, please if you are going to keep this up, at least stop repeating youself. The average webmaster runs 5-10 websites. I own 39 domains. Many people own thousands. It is not a scam to run multiple websites. It is also not a scam to charge money for online services like web hsoting, as LtieraryEscape.Com does offer Geocities.Com style hosting and pagebuilding. We charge money for services, the poetry portions are free.

In closing, Rose, you are making yourself look foolish by attacking myself and every webmaster in my link trade list. Think of how a normal person views the opinionated comments you are making. You don't even state rational ideas, just ludicrous opinions that are irrelevant to what a "scam" is.

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I am sorry you are still upset.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, December 13, 2004

I am sorry that you are still upset, but please, contact me if you have problems with me. You are not making prgress by making faceless accusations.

I would like to hear why you think PoetryScams.Com is a scam. You say things about me as a person, but have never stated a relevant fact about PoetryScams.Com.

You are really upset because I told you that because you broke our link trade agreement I could not link exchange with you anymore. This is a matter of webmaster ettiquete. You were originally blacklisted as a bad link trade partner and the reason you are blacklisted as a dishonest site is because, Rose, you keep posting untrue and meaningless comments and attacking my family and friends.

My wife did go to your website and she posted a very polite and diplomatic message in your forum to try to settle your dispute and you banned the entire island of Iceland in return, just to keep my wife from being nice to you on your site. I read what my wife wrote to you and she even complimented on your website. So please, stop the lying.

PoetryScams.Com is listed on over 5000 websites as an unbiased and honest poetry scam resource and I have had 2 high school students requesting to borrow the site's content for school related work. So, obviously, you are the only one that thinks a site that accepts no money is a scam. The site tells honest information with solid evidence. Tell me what is a scam about that.

Maybe what is a scam is that we just showed a leap of faith and we just made LiteraryEscape.Com a free website a few hours ago, just to prove that we are not in this for money.

I recommend you read Devrie's newest article at PoetryScams.Com entitled "Can you keep from calling all poetry sites a scam?" The article is located here: http://poetryscams.com/differentiate.html

That article will tell you the difference between a scam site and a high quality website that has multiple dedicated servers, employees, and so forth.

In fact, in January, Devrie is hiring 2 new administrators and editors at LiteraryEscape.Com because we feel that a website run by a husband and wife is just not quality when regarding poetry critiques.

Again, if you have any relevant reasons as to why you call our sites a scam, we can discuss it, but after repeating yourself over and over, you are just wasting the time of this fine site's readers, webmasters, administrators, and frankly, myself.

You are the only person in our sites' 5 year history that has ever called us a scam, Rose of Todays-Woman.Net.

Again, I am sorry you are so upset, but you are the one making a fuss without showing a logical reason. You can not even tell the truth when you do it.

Please, stop wasting everyone's time. This is a fine site, and all of "us webmasters" that run scam reporting sites are always getting attacked by persons like yourself who do not realize that being honest is easier than lying and making up stories as to why you are upset. Be honest within yourself and really focus on the cause of your anger, Rose. You once told me that you suffer from "depression". Did you ever try to look in yourself and find out why?

I suffer from a borderline personality disorder and I am autistic. So, how is it that I can swallow my pride and accept that I need to focus extra hard on following the norms of society, yet you can not even control your anger? Please, just locate the cause of your anger and stop displacing it towards other webmasters. We are all in the poetry nuche for the same basic reasons, and this bickering is rediculous, to say the least.

I appologize again to Rip-OffReport.Com for this, I have tried to calm this person, but her attacks just keep coming. I also appologize to the readers, I know you would rather see warnings about true scams and not childish fibbery.

Also, Rose, everyone knows my website, please if you are going to keep this up, at least stop repeating youself. The average webmaster runs 5-10 websites. I own 39 domains. Many people own thousands. It is not a scam to run multiple websites. It is also not a scam to charge money for online services like web hsoting, as LtieraryEscape.Com does offer Geocities.Com style hosting and pagebuilding. We charge money for services, the poetry portions are free.

In closing, Rose, you are making yourself look foolish by attacking myself and every webmaster in my link trade list. Think of how a normal person views the opinionated comments you are making. You don't even state rational ideas, just ludicrous opinions that are irrelevant to what a "scam" is.

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