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Complaint Review: reputationstacker.com - Internet

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*Author of original report: Issue Resolved

*Author of original report: Correcting some facts

*UPDATE Employee ..inside information: Comment from ReputationStacker

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Originally started using this service for review and reputation management and soon discovered the software was poorly put together and full of bugs. We trialled the software for 2 days and requested a refund under their 30 day money back guarantee (they do not provide the option to cancel an account from within your account so you have to email).

After noticing a charge, we contacted them again and advised that we had requested to cancel. We also asked the check our account activity to see that we hadn't signed in or used the software after the initial two days as proof of this. 

Despite that, they refused claiming that we were just outside of their 30 day refund window and denying all knowledge of receiving the cancellation email. We offered to show them a dated print out of the email (we can get logs from our third party ESP) but this didn't seem to matter. 

The amount involved is small ($69) but it's dishonest for a company to offer a money back guarantee, and then refuse to acknowledge it even in the face of clear evidence that customer does not use their product. 

It also sends alarm bells ringing that 

1) They have no registered company details anywhere on their site including the privacy policy / terms of service

2) The office address is a Mailbox in California

This is 2017 and people do not have an issue with dealing with a company based in India, so I'm unsure why they try so hard to hide this. My only guess is that they have frequent issues similar to this and want to avoid any legal recourse. 

 

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#3 Author of original report

Issue Resolved

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POSTED: Wednesday, May 17, 2017

A few days ago the owner of the company reached out by email and sent (a very genuine) apology and rectified the situation. 

It seems this was just a case of support reps following a script without deviation; it's just unfortunate that it took everything here to get a resolution. 

For the record, I'm now convinced this is a case of bad systems / hiring and not bad company or company leadership as they do seem genuine in their intent to fix this issue. 

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POSTED: Thursday, May 11, 2017

You have some obvious false statements in your reply - I only wish you were this forthcoming in dealing with my original request. 

1) "The client started by saying that they sent an email previously requesting cancellation, then threatened to write bad reviews if we didn't provide a refund."

- We both know this isn't true. 

Here is my first (recent) email to you

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Hi,

I sent a message requesting a cancellation of my account (XXXXX) around Mar 31st and a refund.

I've just checked and I've been billed. I'm sure if you check my logs you can see we haven't logged in or used the service.


Could you process a refund please to my card ending XXXX?

(I've removed my account name and last four digits but otherwise left the email unchanged)


And my second email sent after you replied to my initial email with a standard script about being outside of 30 days

****************

I've contacted you out of courtesy as I assume it was just an admin

error on your end.

I'm unsure why you don't have the email but you can clearly see that I
haven't used the product since the first few days of joining. I'm
asking again, please check and refund accordingly. I really don't want
to file this as a dispute with the card company as you then get
charged for the chargeback in addition to having to refund the money

************************


I've pasted this in its entirety and not changed or removed any part - I'd urge you to tell the truth. 

The final email that you've pasted is accurate - that's what I sent an hour ago. There's no extortion going on here; I'm already highly likely to warn anyone in the community who asks to avoid you and your software and no amount of refund will change that. There's nothing for me to extort.

I genuinely want you to reflect on whether your desperation for $69 was worth all of your time spent dealing with this and the bad word of mouth that your poor customer service will generate. You can see I haven't used the product even if your 'never fail bullet-proof email system' didn't receive my email. Unless you're on the verge on running out of money, why wouldn't you refund a customer in that situation. 

I understand you're a small company and money is probably scarce, but this isn't a good way to do business. That said, you can sleep easy knowing I have no further intention of dragging this out or wasting my own time complaining anywhere else unless you want to keep telling lies about this situation.  


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AUTHOR: ReputationStacker - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, May 11, 2017

Hi readers,

We've been through a few rounds of emails with this client, starting on day 42 after they signed up. The client started by saying that they sent an email previously requesting cancellation, then threatened to write bad reviews if we didn't provide a refund.

We explained that cancellation is entirely in their control within their account (they click the "Cancel" button), and that per our 30-day money back guarantee, in order to be refunded they must cancel and request a refund within the 30 day period - no big suprise there.

We also explained that the cancellation policy is clearly explained in our User Guide (https://reputationstacker.com/user-guide/) and Terms of Service, and that we also provide these instructions in every reply to every client who requests cancellation. We have triple checked our email logs, phone records and voicemail, and have found no previous communication from this client prior to day 42 after they signed up. In their review they state that there is no option to cancel, but this is obviously not true, as our User Guide has very easy to follow instructions on how to cancel.

They also state that we are probably foreign based. Pros of cons of foreign based companies aside, we are not one. We are a California LLC. Our entire team is US based. Develpment is in Orlando, FL, marketing is in Dallas, TX, and customer support and additional development is in Los Angeles, CA.

They also claim that they offered to send us a copy of an email requesting information on cancellation, but they never actually made this offer to us.

Here is a copy of the last email we sent to this client:

"We understand your frustration. We really do. We try to make it as absolutely easy as possible for you to cancel by providing instructions in our User Guide as well as our Terms of Service, and putting the cancellation process entirely in your hands by clicking the "Cancel" button in your Billing Account so you have total control. 

We also provide these instructions in every reply to every client who requests cancellation, again to make it very easy for you to cancel. We have triple checked our email logs, phone records and voicemail, and have found no communication from you. We absolutely believe that you sent it; we just didn't receive it.
 
If you don't plan on using the service any longer then you will want to follow the instructions to cancel if you have not done so already.
 
Again, we sincerely apologize that this has caused you frustration. Seriously, we're not just writing that - we want cancellation to be as pain free as possible. It's the same reason why we don't lock anyone into long term contracts or have cancellation fees like many other companies. We want to make our product easy to use, as well as easy to cancel if you no longer wish to use it.
 
We welcome any suggestions you'd like to share with us for improving the cancellation process or any of our other features or processes. We seriously mean that as well - your constructive feedback is much appreciated if you'd like to share it."
 
And here was their response to this email:
 
"My only hope is that your company doesn't go out of business before you have time to reflect on what this experience has lead to a few months down the line when I'm done and how many customers it's likely to loose you.
 
I've filed the dispute with Amex - I'll let them take it from here."
 
At ReputationStacker we are all about doing the right thing by our customers, but we can't succumb to threats of extortion. It's simply not fair to our team and to our other clients.
 
We hope you understand our side of things and see that we are always transparent with our clients.
 
Sincerely,
The ReputationStacker Team
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