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Complaint Review: StarrCreek's Olde English Bulldogs ,Mutt Breeders. Buyer Beware Of Gilberts402000@yahoo.com - Ambrose Georgia

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  • StarrCreek's Olde English Bulldogs ,Mutt Breeders. Buyer Beware Of Gilberts402000@yahoo.com 116 Benjamin Fussell Road Ambrose, Georgia U.S.A.

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Buyer Beware of all IOEBA Registry breeders. There is a lot of them selling English Bulldogs cross with American Bulldogs as pure breed Olde English Bulldogges. Buyer you have to remember Olde English Bulldogges Is Working Dogs. Also They Shouldn't Look Like a "BIG ENGLISH BULLDOG" With A "SCREWED TAILS" Or " CUT TAIL" Real Old School breeders know this. People need to understand the truth about Bull crap Registry IOEBA. They will registry anything as pure breed dog. But it really it is not. It need to stop and the truth need to be told.

The Truth,

In 1950 1971 1960, Mr Winston, Mr Leavitt and Mr Hermes started this project of breeding a dog with the looks of the 18th century Bulldog. I had become disenchanted with English Bulldogs, due to breeding and breathing problems. I discovered that they didn't look like their ancestors, who were healthier and less extreme. I found that bull and bear-baiting had been very widespread for hundreds of years. Extreme cruelty to animals was inherent in baiting sports.

This cruelty was abhorrent to me, but I was fascinated by the great tenacity and courage of the over-matched underdog. I was also drawn to the Bulldog because of his fierce appearance. A modern protection dog, which looks really tough, will repulse an assailant without having to bite. This is the most desirable end to a confrontation. I couldn't find a reliable source for old style Bulldogs, and set about the daunting task of breeding back. I named the breed Olde English Bulldogge.

Research has been critical in developing a standard. I have period statues, paintings, prints, and all the important older dog books. I found that Bulldog sizes varied during different periods, due to changes in the way the baits were staged. Like all old working breeds, Bulldogs were not bred to a strict standard. Their distinctive body, head, and temperament, were dictated instead by their work.

I do not want the temperament of the original Bulldog. My dogs must be very loving. They must have courage and determination, without being overly aggressive. I've found that I can't count on buyers to get their dogs under good obedience control. If I have to make a mistake, it must be on the friendly side, and if someone wants their dog to be sharper, all it takes is bit of training. I'd rather teach a friendly dog to bite, then vice versa.

I'm using a line-breeding scheme, developed for cattle at Ohio State University. You start with 3 unrelated dogs, two males and one female. Female pups from the first cross are bred to the second male. From this point, females are bred back to uncles, each generation. I have 2 unrelated schemes started, so future outcrosses will be possible. I've used breeds that all have old Bulldog in their background. My dogs are half English Bulldog, and the other half Bullmastiff, Pit Bull, and American Bulldog. The process of getting the dogs to match the old depictions is actually rapid due to the breeds used, and a dogs' short gestation period. I try to get on to the next generation as quickly as possible, to make genetic progress and get consistent results. I'm up to the eight and ninth generations on the two lines, at the time of this printing in 1989, 1995.

My dogs can now breathe. They will never be like hounds, able to run for miles during the hottest weather of summer, but they're three times better than the restricted modern Bulldog. Cesarean section births are not necessary. Artificial insemination, due to male ineptness and lack of drive, has been replaced by natural ties. Life span is over eleven years. All breeding stock have had hip x-rays. No dog with bad hips is bred. I'm now achieving my goal of producing a Bulldog with the health and temperament to be able to serve people, instead of forcing people to serve him.

TheTruth
NEW YORK, New York
U.S.A.

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Master of all bulls

AUTHOR: Bad Quality - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, October 04, 2008

He has slanderd many kennels to get them to reg there dogs with him.He is a basher trying hurt honest breeders.And hates white people.All the kennels you see that he has listed is to only hurt the breed.I have many family references on my website.This man is only out to hurt the honest people.Search his kennel name masterofallbulls and you will find out what type of person your dealing with .

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This man is a danger to society.He is a hater of races and breeders

AUTHOR: Bad Quality - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, October 03, 2008

http://www.yendit.com/uye/MasterOfAllBulldogs he has made threats to many people.He is not a rescue for your beloved pet.It will be used to inhumane practices.He have very much hate in him.Beware of the kennel and his name.If you need more info please contact me.There is a background check being done on him and kennels as we speak.

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#5 Author of original report

Buyers Beware of Mutt breeds This Kennel here StarrCreek's Olde English Bulldogs sell them.

AUTHOR: Masterofallbulldogs - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, October 03, 2008

People need to understand the truth. IOEBA, WBA, and the other So call registry are selling mutts that is not pure breed for tope money. They are trying to scam you people out of your money.

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#4 Author of original report

Buyers Beware of Mutt breeds This Kennel here StarrCreek's Olde English Bulldogs sell them.

AUTHOR: Masterofallbulldogs - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, October 03, 2008

People need to understand the truth. IOEBA, WBA, and the other So call registry are selling mutts that is not pure breed for tope money. They are trying to scam you people out of your money.

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Buyers Beware of Mutt breeds This Kennel here StarrCreek's Olde English Bulldogs sell them.

AUTHOR: Masterofallbulldogs - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, October 03, 2008

People need to understand the truth. IOEBA, WBA, and the other So call registry are selling mutts that is not pure breed for tope money. They are trying to scam you people out of your money.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Masterofallbulldogs was warned not to slander my kennel name

AUTHOR: Bad Quality - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, October 02, 2008

He has abused many breeders.I will not stand for this.I will take leagel action!

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Buyer Beware StarrCreek's Olde English Bulldogges

AUTHOR: Masterofallbulldogs - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 24, 2008

These are mutts they are notr pure breed dogs. You people need to understand that.

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