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Complaint Review: twentyfirstcenturyauctions - Bocka Raton Florida

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  • Reported By: Nigel — Hastings Florida New Zealand
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  • twentyfirstcenturyauctions 10604 South 180th place Bocka Raton, Florida USA

twentyfirstcenturyauctions Marvin Friedman Shaun Friedman21st Century AuctionsGarage Memories, LLCJack MillerMillers Mustang BarnMike Flynn JnrMike Flynn SnrHollywood wheels auctions, Jupiter FloridaThe Garage Inc, FloridaBrickle MotorsRonald Norman, Lansing, NYRichard Deceptive and Corrupt Car Salesman strikes yet once again. Bocka Raton Florida

*Author of original report: A Fabulous 1957 Ford Fairlane alright!

*General Comment: the gentleman from New Zealand is a pathalogical liar

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This is to report yet another scam car sale by repeat offender, Mr Marvin Friedman. Marvin or "Marv" as he calls himself is the owner or is associated with TwentyFirstCenturyAuctions " and "Garage Memories, LLC" He opperates out of Florida with his son Shaun  Friedman.

A word of warning about this man Marvin. He is a shocker and should not be trusted. He does not speak the truth, he over sells his cars and will not put right defects. 

I am new to the "Ripoff Report" but was horrified to see that Marvin has had complaints about him dating back many years. What is most disturbing is that despite multiple complaints about him to e-bay that he continues to be sell cars on e-bay and has a dealers lisence. 

This is my story and i will only give the short version. Please note that i reside in New Zealand.

On the 11th of November 2012, i decided to bid on a 1957 Ford Fairlane 500, Sunliner that was listed on e-bay. Listing item 170934 and number 968053. I contacted the seller, twentyfirstcenturyauctions, Marvin. We spoke several times over a couple of days about the condition of the car.

The car was owned by "Jack Miller" and was part of the "Millers Mustang Barn collection in west palm beach, Jupitor Florida"

The car was advertised as a frame up restoration, 41,000 miles, D code, Raven Black, black and whites seats. Marvin really convinced me that the car was perfect, that Jack Miller was a perfectionist and would not ever purchase or sell a car that was not 100%. He stated that all Jacks cars were started every month and that they were driven 13 miles every second month to stop the deterioating mechnacilly etc. I was even able to view the car on utube in the collection etc etc.

Marvin was very convincing and stated that he was 73 years old, had been the largest Ferrari dealer in the USA and was now retired and selling classic cars as a hobby. He asked me to check his 100% perfect record of feedback on e-bay having sold 885 cars. All very compelling.

After talking to Jack Millers private banker i was convinced that i was dealing with reputable people, so the transaction was done, car picked up and delivered to Long Beach CA for delivery to New Zealand.

When i got the car back to New Zealand and took delivery of the car in February 2013, i was so shocked and dissapointed at the condition of it. I had paid USD $59,500 for the car which was top money at the time.

The car was not drivable, the fuel pump was faulty, the brake fluid was in crystals, the diff was leaking so much oil, the automatic transmission was shot, the motor was a 292 2 BBL, the car was dented, the front suspension had been jacked up with bolts! the power steering had been fitted poorly and had the wrong mounting bracket, the wipers were broken, the list goes on mechnacially.

The worst feature was to come, that is appart from the rust, that the car had a white paint undercoat showing in the boot! Very visiable and not something that i was expecting to find in a genuine 41,000 mile car that was factory black!

To cut a long story short, i soon realised that the car was not genuine, it was a 1957 Ford Victoria cut down and made into a Sunliner. The VIN number at the front of the chasis had been cut out and welded in and the data plate changed.

So four years later, $100,000 NZD pured into the car we are just about ready to roll. Durring the past four years i have complained to almost every law enforcement body imaginable including e-bay.

When i received the car and under NZ law, if your goods are faulty, you have 7 days to lodge a complaint. I made complaints to Marvin Friedman and Jack Miller.

Marvin got really angry with me and stated that "its a great car" and "that you are having buyers regrets". Jack Miller didnt want to know and stated " that if Marvin has talked the car up then thats his issue, not mine - sue me"

I have contacted e-bay and to be frank they are bloody useless, i have contacted the Florida state highway patrol and the FBI. I ended up doing all of the investigation work myself into the ownership history of the car as Marvin stated that he knew who had restored the car, " he was an older car restorer whom is now retired, it took him three years to complete the rebuild in his garage" I asked Marvin about what work had been done on the engine and he was able to reply in detail, "its been overhauled with rings and bearings" I have often wondered who actully restored the car?

So the ownership history was intresting. Jack Miller purchased the car on the 5th of April, 2010, 41,228 miles, paid $49,500 at " Mike Flynn Jnrs, Hollywood Wheels Auctions" I contacted Mike Flynn many times about the ownership history of the car and he always had excuses why he could not find the sales and purchase records. At that time i was not aware that his father, "Mike Flynn Snr" "Flynn Classic Inc" had owned the car from the 28th of December 2007 to when he sold it to the "Garage" on the 1st of May 2008. The milage was recorded as being 41,223 miles at that time.

So "The Garage Inc" then onsold the car to "Brickle Motors" also on the 1st of May 2008. "Brickle Motors" then sold the car back to "The Garage Inc" on the 1st of May 2010 which a milage recorded as 41,228. This is when "Mike Flynn of Hollywood Whhels Auctions" sold his fathers old car to Jack Miller!!!!!

So i have called the "Garage" and low and behold they remembered the car! They asked me not to discuss this with "Brickle Motors" as they would not know anything as they only went to auction with them. I found this very strange?

I have also been threatned by Shawn Friedman, principal of Garage Memories, LLC and twentyfirstcenturyauctions.

So if you check the milage - there can be no way that Jack Miller drove his cars 13 miles every second month!! More lies from Marvin.

I was shocked to recently read that Marvin has a litany of complaints about him on online auto forums such as the Cadillac & LaSalle Club Discussion Forum, as well as consumer sites such as the Ripoff Report. I have also found online reports that Marvin Friedman was sentenced to six years in federal prison in 1995 for laundering drug money on a Ferrari sale, and at that time agreed to plead guilty to defrauding three banks out of nearly $1.3 million by listing cars he was selling on consignment as company holdings. Beware of this e-mail address as it appears that another company may use it as well, LUVDG@aol.com. I have found complaints about Marvin on this Ripoffreport about his e-bay sales but yet e-bay is still reporting him to have a 100% perfect sales record! At the time that Marvin withdrew my car from e-bay it had already had 16 bids. I reported this to e-bay but i still see his same old bullshit adds on e-bay. I just wonder how many other cases such as mine are out there.  Even despite my complaints to Jack about Marvin, Jack allowd Marvin to sell his Mustang collection, that speaks volumes about that man as well - i wonder how many of that collection were built by the "same restorer" as mine was?

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#2 Author of original report

A Fabulous 1957 Ford Fairlane alright!

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POSTED: Sunday, March 26, 2017

Alan

Clearly you are in-bed with Marvin Friedman or may even be him behind this rebuttal. 

Firstly if you knew this car as well as you claim to, then you would know that it was not a genuine 1957 Ford Fairlane 500 Sunliner, rather that it was a 1957 Victoria cut down. Are you disputing that fact here?

Just remember – Marvin Friedman and Jack Miller sold me a 1957 Ford Fairlane 500 Sunliner, but delivered me a 1957 Ford Victoria cut down.

I note that you make no reference to the claim that the car was a chop shop car and not genuine rag top as sold to me by them. I take it that you think that this is okay to do this, maybe its normal practise in your eyes? Please explain.

Also you claim to have ridden around in the car - sort of like you had done some miles in it, maybe a car show or a trip up the coast etc - is this what you meant?

If you are so familiar with the car and you have done these trips as claimed, then please explain why the mileage was listed as being 41,228 when Jack Miller purchased the car and was only 41,240 miles, four year later.

This is 12 miles that was done while the car was in Jack Millers collection during the period between 2010 and late 2012 wasn’t it?

Now, that’s not a very big ride that you have been on, is it? So please explain where you went and how many miles you have done in the car so that I can understand just how you can claim to have known the car so well?

So clearly you know the car very well, I am not disputing that. Why then do you think that Marvin Friedman of Twentyfirstcentury auctions did not photograph the visible rust in the car, the white paint in the boot, the cut and weld marks in the parcel tray area, the fiberglass matting that was clearly showing in the front valance or the dent in the front right hand fender that was showing in the photos of the day that it was driven into Mike Flynns, Hollywood Wheels Auctions where Jack Miller purchased the car on the 20th of March 2010?

Do your homework man, as the dent is there and is clear for the world to see on the internet!

Now on the point that you make that I am a liar and trying to extort money from Jack Miller. You are a clown for even suggesting this?

Yes I stand by the fact Jack Miller and Marvin Friedman ( take your pick ) have defrauded me over the purchase of this car.

I quite frankly do not give two hoots about what else they have or have not done, its what they have done to me that counts here. So don’t try defending Jack Miller or Marvin Friedman in this case as I was duped by them and yes I believe that I should have received compensation in this case or they should have atleast taken the car back. I have given them both this opportunity to do so. I see nothing wrong with that given the extent of the cars issues.

So its disappointing that you see that simple request as “extortion” What would you have done in this case then or do you just see this type of behaviour as normal?

If you want evidence of what I am claiming, then I have plenty. I still have the original front guard here from the car that was so and rotten with rust that it could not be repaired. I also have a full photo history of every part of the car during its New Zealand restoration clearly showing that it’s a Victoria and not a genuine Sunliner as advertised by Marvin as being a Museum quality 1957 Ford Fairlane 500, Sunliner, 42,000 mile car.

I have kept every receipt for every last cent spent on the car here in New Zealand. The car has been examined by Authorities here in New Zealand throughout its restoration and I am prepared to sign an affidavit regarding the ethnicity of this issue.

So don’t call me a liar when you do not know the facts.  

As for the 100% ebay record. Well I can only suggest that Marvin withdraws any ebay sales that he knows will come back at him as he did in my case. Had he not withdrawn the car from ebay ( note that it had already received 16 bids when he withdrew it) I would have given him bad feedback. I also understand from ebay that he has had warnings from them, but take that up with them.

Again I reiterate, that I am only interested in what has happened here in my case. This is my experience with these guys and I have all of the evidence that is needed to prove or defend my claims. I am happy to put up a u-tube post showing how stuffed the car was when I got it if you like? Maybe this will help you understand the extent of the issues and may also put off other poor unsuspecting buyers from these ripoff merchants!

 

Have a look at the photos attached, then post your appology! 

 

 

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the gentleman from New Zealand is a pathalogical liar

AUTHOR: Alan - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, March 23, 2017

I know Mr. Miller for more than 20 years. The Ford 1957 Ford Fairlane convertible described was part of Mr. Miller's fabulous automobile collection in his Museum in Jupiter, Florida. I personally rode in this car with the gentleman who ran the museum for the Millers and took care of his multi-million dollar car collection.

This particular automobile was sold to a gentleman in New Zealand. The sale happened several years again and he has continued with this charade and litiney of false allegations in an attempt to extort money from Mr. Miller.

As with all the cars in Mr Miller's Auto Museum collection, this was an exceptional vintage car that was magnificently restored. Simply put this man is a pathalogical liar and his fabricated fairy tales earns him a 5 star Pinochchio award.

Mr. Friedman sold the museum and all the cars in the Fall of 2015.They were sold on Ebay and in checking the feedback on these cars, all have glowing reports from the purchasers and 100% positive feedbacks. In fact, with nearly 1000 vintage cars sold over the past 17 years, Ebay shows a 100% Feedback rating since March of 2000.

 

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