University Of Phoenix -Ground Student Discrimination by a University of Phoenix Instructor Charlotte North Carolina

I would like to respond to the initial posting and make some observations of the rebuttals.

It is possible to have an instructor that is tough. In my experience at the UoP I found that, just as in life, one must deal with all sorts of individuals. Some people expect more from their students, employees, and subordinates. The fact that we may not like how our teachers, bosses, and superiors conduct themselves is irrelevant. As long as they are within ethical and legal guidelines we must follow their rules and adapt to their standards.

I found my instructors at the UoP to be much like the drill instructors and bosses I have had over the years; a mixture of pleasant and unpleasant people. What one instructor may accept as participation another may not. The author of this posting was not happy with being a member of team "A" and refused to join that team. The instructor was making a valid decision when assigning you to a team, which you were not happy with. That is called teamwork, the ability to work with others of different backgrounds and personalities. It is a reflection of real life. I have found that life is not fair so one should get used to it.

I propose a scenario. You are working in a hospital and are required to work with individuals you do not like. You have two choices, make the best of it or quit. You may not like your new boss because he or she is a stickler to attendance. You have two choices; adapt or quit. The military drill instructor that was assigned to your platoon is not as lenient as the other platoon leaders. You have two options. You may cry, quit the military and go home, or suck it up and be a better soldier. Combat is going to be tougher than any drill instructor will ever be. That is real life.

Do you see my point? The teacher was trying to make you a better student and person. We must all work with others in a team situation at some point in lives, and we may not like it. Instead of crying discrimination every time you do not get your way, maybe you should try to rise above any pettiness and show your muster. Be a team player even if it is killing you to do so. Show others that you can still participate and add to the team effort despite any animosity. In the end you will gain the respect of the team members. I believe you missed an opportunity to outshine your teammates by working with them instead of making it quite obvious that you did not like them.

I have found that the teachers, bosses and drill instructors that were the toughest in my life taught me the most about life. It is easy to have your hand held, be lead around and given your own way. If that is what you want in life, then you will always be a follower. Take the lead and you will find yourself becoming a leader that commands respect, not demands it. Others will follow you if you show leadership qualities. This is a fact about life. Life may not always be fair; sometimes it is hard and we must make the best of it. It is best to get used to it. If you were a soldier, employee or a student and you did not do it my way; it would be the highway for you.

As for the rebuttals, the first one was written by a current employee that is giving guidance to a student on how she may resolve a situation with the UoP. It was pleasant and well written. It may be Libby's job to put a positive face on the UoP, and may be of some help to others. It was an affective positive rebuttal that commands attention by its appropriateness.

The second, written by a former employee, sounded as if it was written by someone with an axe to grind with the UoP. It was nasty, showed signs of bitterness, and was not an affective rebuttal. Look at the title "Quit trolling and get a life" and the ending "Get the hell out of here." This rebuttal was poorly written. Whatever was written in between the first and last lines of the rebuttal is negated by the beginning and ending sentences. It was a personal attack on Ms. Bailey, not on her message

I would suggest to Apllogroupclassactionlawsuites to put a positive face on future rebuttals if you want to be taken seriously. If you are a former employee, would it not have been better for your cause if you politely responded to the message with an alternative solution rather than attack the messenger. Ms Bailey put her name to her rebuttal; you hide behind a pseudonym. What are you ashamed of? As a former employee you have the inside information, why not put that forward as a response to an argument instead of that nasty thing you call a rebuttal.

Is Ms. Bailey a hypocrite because she is doing a job that you did, and you found repulsive? That is until you were fired. Up until then you had no problem doing that repulsive job. There is an old saying "You can attract more flies with a teaspoon of honey than you can with a gallon of vinegar." You may only win in a court of law with facts. I hope for your group's sake that you are not the face of that group because you will never win your case with an argument such as the one you presented in this forum.

Respectfully,

Rick

I would like to respond to the initial posting and make some observations of the rebuttals.

It is possible to have an instructor that is tough. In my experience at the UoP I found that, just as in life, one must deal with all sorts of individuals. Some people expect more from their students, employees, and subordinates. The fact that we may not like how our teachers, bosses, and superiors conduct themselves is irrelevant. As long as they are within ethical and legal guidelines we must follow their rules and adapt to their standards.

I found my instructors at the UoP to be much like the drill instructors and bosses I have had over the years; a mixture of pleasant and unpleasant people. What one instructor may accept as participation another may not. The author of this posting was not happy with being a member of team "A" and refused to join that team. The instructor was making a valid decision when assigning you to a team, which you were not happy with. That is called teamwork, the ability to work with others of different backgrounds and personalities. It is a reflection of real life. I have found that life is not fair so one should get used to it.

I propose a scenario. You are working in a hospital and are required to work with individuals you do not like. You have two choices, make the best of it or quit. You may not like your new boss because he or she is a stickler to attendance. You have two choices; adapt or quit. The military drill instructor that was assigned to your platoon is not as lenient as the other platoon leaders. You have two options. You may cry, quit the military and go home, or suck it up and be a better soldier. Combat is going to be tougher than any drill instructor will ever be. That is real life.

Do you see my point? The teacher was trying to make you a better student and person. We must all work with others in a team situation at some point in lives, and we may not like it. Instead of crying discrimination every time you do not get your way, maybe you should try to rise above any pettiness and show your muster. Be a team player even if it is killing you to do so. Show others that you can still participate and add to the team effort despite any animosity. In the end you will gain the respect of the team members. I believe you missed an opportunity to outshine your teammates by working with them instead of making it quite obvious that you did not like them.

I have found that the teachers, bosses and drill instructors that were the toughest in my life taught me the most about life. It is easy to have your hand held, be lead around and given your own way. If that is what you want in life, then you will always be a follower. Take the lead and you will find yourself becoming a leader that commands respect, not demands it. Others will follow you if you show leadership qualities. This is a fact about life. Life may not always be fair; sometimes it is hard and we must make the best of it. It is best to get used to it. If you were a soldier, employee or a student and you did not do it my way; it would be the highway for you.

As for the rebuttals, the first one was written by a current employee that is giving guidance to a student on how she may resolve a situation with the UoP. It was pleasant and well written. It may be Libby's job to put a positive face on the UoP, and may be of some help to others. It was an affective positive rebuttal that commands attention by its appropriateness.

The second, written by a former employee, sounded as if it was written by someone with an axe to grind with the UoP. It was nasty, showed signs of bitterness, and was not an affective rebuttal. Look at the title "Quit trolling and get a life" and the ending "Get the hell out of here." This rebuttal was poorly written. Whatever was written in between the first and last lines of the rebuttal is negated by the beginning and ending sentences. It was a personal attack on Ms. Bailey, not on her message

I would suggest to Apllogroupclassactionlawsuites to put a positive face on future rebuttals if you want to be taken seriously. If you are a former employee, would it not have been better for your cause if you politely responded to the message with an alternative solution rather than attack the messenger. Ms Bailey put her name to her rebuttal; you hide behind a pseudonym. What are you ashamed of? As a former employee you have the inside information, why not put that forward as a response to an argument instead of that nasty thing you call a rebuttal.

Is Ms. Bailey a hypocrite because she is doing a job that you did, and you found repulsive? That is until you were fired. Up until then you had no problem doing that repulsive job. There is an old saying "You can attract more flies with a teaspoon of honey than you can with a gallon of vinegar." You may only win in a court of law with facts. I hope for your group's sake that you are not the face of that group because you will never win your case with an argument such as the one you presented in this forum.

Respectfully,

Rick

I would like to respond to the initial posting and make some observations of the rebuttals.

It is possible to have an instructor that is tough. In my experience at the UoP I found that, just as in life, one must deal with all sorts of individuals. Some people expect more from their students, employees, and subordinates. The fact that we may not like how our teachers, bosses, and superiors conduct themselves is irrelevant. As long as they are within ethical and legal guidelines we must follow their rules and adapt to their standards.

I found my instructors at the UoP to be much like the drill instructors and bosses I have had over the years; a mixture of pleasant and unpleasant people. What one instructor may accept as participation another may not. The author of this posting was not happy with being a member of team "A" and refused to join that team. The instructor was making a valid decision when assigning you to a team, which you were not happy with. That is called teamwork, the ability to work with others of different backgrounds and personalities. It is a reflection of real life. I have found that life is not fair so one should get used to it.

I propose a scenario. You are working in a hospital and are required to work with individuals you do not like. You have two choices, make the best of it or quit. You may not like your new boss because he or she is a stickler to attendance. You have two choices; adapt or quit. The military drill instructor that was assigned to your platoon is not as lenient as the other platoon leaders. You have two options. You may cry, quit the military and go home, or suck it up and be a better soldier. Combat is going to be tougher than any drill instructor will ever be. That is real life.

Do you see my point? The teacher was trying to make you a better student and person. We must all work with others in a team situation at some point in lives, and we may not like it. Instead of crying discrimination every time you do not get your way, maybe you should try to rise above any pettiness and show your muster. Be a team player even if it is killing you to do so. Show others that you can still participate and add to the team effort despite any animosity. In the end you will gain the respect of the team members. I believe you missed an opportunity to outshine your teammates by working with them instead of making it quite obvious that you did not like them.

I have found that the teachers, bosses and drill instructors that were the toughest in my life taught me the most about life. It is easy to have your hand held, be lead around and given your own way. If that is what you want in life, then you will always be a follower. Take the lead and you will find yourself becoming a leader that commands respect, not demands it. Others will follow you if you show leadership qualities. This is a fact about life. Life may not always be fair; sometimes it is hard and we must make the best of it. It is best to get used to it. If you were a soldier, employee or a student and you did not do it my way; it would be the highway for you.

As for the rebuttals, the first one was written by a current employee that is giving guidance to a student on how she may resolve a situation with the UoP. It was pleasant and well written. It may be Libby's job to put a positive face on the UoP, and may be of some help to others. It was an affective positive rebuttal that commands attention by its appropriateness.

The second, written by a former employee, sounded as if it was written by someone with an axe to grind with the UoP. It was nasty, showed signs of bitterness, and was not an affective rebuttal. Look at the title "Quit trolling and get a life" and the ending "Get the hell out of here." This rebuttal was poorly written. Whatever was written in between the first and last lines of the rebuttal is negated by the beginning and ending sentences. It was a personal attack on Ms. Bailey, not on her message

I would suggest to Apllogroupclassactionlawsuites to put a positive face on future rebuttals if you want to be taken seriously. If you are a former employee, would it not have been better for your cause if you politely responded to the message with an alternative solution rather than attack the messenger. Ms Bailey put her name to her rebuttal; you hide behind a pseudonym. What are you ashamed of? As a former employee you have the inside information, why not put that forward as a response to an argument instead of that nasty thing you call a rebuttal.

Is Ms. Bailey a hypocrite because she is doing a job that you did, and you found repulsive? That is until you were fired. Up until then you had no problem doing that repulsive job. There is an old saying "You can attract more flies with a teaspoon of honey than you can with a gallon of vinegar." You may only win in a court of law with facts. I hope for your group's sake that you are not the face of that group because you will never win your case with an argument such as the one you presented in this forum.

Respectfully,

Rick

Dear Ms. Baily,

Please quit trolling in this forum to eradicate or circumvent issues to ward off potential legal claims against the University of Phoenix and Apollo Group, Inc.

As I did when I was employed by the University of Phoenix, I question your intent and ethics in attempting to select out issues, events, and student circumstances in an effort to indemnify the organizations public perception.

Get the hell out of here.

I regret to hear you had a bad experience. The University of Phoenix has an office dedicated to hearing student complaints and doing their best to resolve them. If you would like the Office of Dispute Management to look into your issue, please contact us through any of the methods below:

Mailing address:
Office of Dispute Management
University of Phoenix
4615 E Elwood Street
Mail Stop: AA-S401
Phoenix, AZ 85040

Email address:
UofPhoenix@phoenix.edu

Phone:
602-557-5566

Fax:
480-557-2275

Best regards,

Libby Bailey, University Relations Administrator
On behalf of University of Phoenix - Office of Dispute Management
4615 E. Elwood Street AA-S401 | Phoenix, AZ 85040
phone: 602-557-5566| fax: 480-557-2275 | email: UofPhoenix@phoenix.edu