Adriatic Services Scam Artists, unprofessional and liars! ripoff Tempe Arizona

After much research and more rip off reports from new victims, I have concluded that these guys are completely unsafe to do any business with. This may be a long explanation of all of my information, but it will help you not get ripped off like the rest of us! Read on...

First of all if you have any doubts as to whether these folks are real business people or you have become another victim, please call Detective Sullivan at the Cyber Crimes Unit of the Scottsdale Police at 480-312-5175. We need all the people we can get to file compaints with their department in their jurisdiction to nail these guys. This house of cards is coming down around the two brothers, Dan and Goran, fast! Also file with the BBB in Scottsdale, with IC3.gov, the internet crime complaints center. Don't forget to update your reports here at Rip-Off Report. I know it takes time, but we all need each other to get these scam artists.

Also, make sure you file complaints with your credit card companies, paypal or however you paid (even by check) so they can put the money on hold from Adriatic's merchant account. Do not hesitate or you will lose the chance to get your money back. It will also keep them from making any money. It will all be tied up until the investigations are over. I have already done this.

After months of sending information back and forth to the banks I have yet to see Goran address any of the issues I presented in the complaints. Especially here in this forum. His "employees" send diversionary information to the banks and tell you that you just haven't marketed, thinking no one has the resources or knowledge to investigate the company on a technical level. They have changed company names, addresses and phone numbers so many times, but they cannot hide if you guys keep informing us of the new address and phone information they give you.

Goran claims to have talked with me personally to resolve my complaints and I have never heard from him, EVER! I am not sure he is even a real person or what his name or anyone else in their circle might really be. I have talked with many people in the organization and they are all supposedly buddies from ASU who go out together all the time so you know they talk. This was told to me by Mike Tomlin, their supposed technical service person. Anthony and Ryan and the original salesman Matt Riley all told me little bits and pieces of the relationships, but who knows what is lies or truth. Matt is gone and I haven't heard from anyone since I got the ring around the rosie treatment from Anthony, Mike and Ryan. Mike had said he was going to quit since he was getting so many compaints. I repeatedly asked to have Goran to contact me and no one would have him call me. They said no. Then he claims to have talked with me and it is not true. They gave me "FREE HOSTING" for the website as a token, but if it doesn't work, it's a moot point.

It is important to understand the nature of what they do and how they do it. By using documentation that says no refunds, they are using the laws of Arizona to their benefit, even when they do not perform the work. In their initial lettters, email and advertising they claim that the website is "TURN KEY" and will belong to you. It doesn't, nor does the domain name. It doesn't because you cannot access the HTML code, and they block the domain so it cannot be transferred when they register it with Go Daddy. The claim to have the state of the art system and it is only a poorly designed shopping cart template. The sites are not internet search engine friendly, failing most of the time to register with them on search engine submittal link they gave me to submit it to. They claim to do what is called SEO or Search Engine Optimization in their upgrade package and haven't even performed it on their own website, why would they do it for yours? On and on...

Look at all their marketing materials and they make claims to all of this. It won't happen and never will. No one has ever received a commission check (except them) and no one has made any sales from them that I know of, even though I have repeatedly asked them to show me proof. Ask them real questions and you get no real answer, only circles of BS going nowhere. Don't be fooled by their merry-go-round.

My biggest question to them is this; why with all the money being made globally in this industry would you need to rip people off for such small amounts of money, when you could be making a fortune. Why? It's a 54 billion dollar industry! Because you either don't know how or you don't care! Tell me ANYONE to call and verify that they actually received money from Adriatic or youradultstore.net and we'll have the police and banks check the information. Don't tell me it's a matter of client privacy. If you had one customer who was willing to give you a reference, we would know.

The most important thing to know is they determine how much money you have to spend and then ask for it. Their pricing is not set. I asked Ryan and he said he lets their sales people charge what ever they want. Really? No standard pricing for the same exact service? Why do some pay thousands for what others pay less than a few hundred? Because they just want to take whatever you have! Hmmmm...they also don't ever tell you exactly what they have in their marketing portfolio for SEO. What is entailed and what work do you provide for the money? Anthony is their marketing salesman (or was) and couldn't give me a list. What a fool I am, but you don't have to be! What do you mean you will handle it, don't worry? Where is my update after months and months? I haven't seen anything but a change of the home page picture. That isn't s****.> Thanks to David for giving me the Scottsdale Police Detective's number and just remember, what comes around goes around.

Dear Mr. Will,

After reading all the rip off complaints against these two individuals what they took from alot of people.

I decided to contact ScottsDale Police (Cyber Crime Unit) and spoke with a Detective Sullivan.

I filled him in on there two scum bags that keep taking money from people and don't produce.

He advised me (Detective Sullivan) for all the people involved (that lost money) to please contact him personally, he assured me they will take immediate action against these people involved.

Please contact him (we need these guys locked up for good) the phone number is below (if he is not there) please leave a message in his voice mail.


Detective Sullivan (480) 312-5175



Please keep me informed on this matter.



David

Since my first posting I have had several conversations with the folks at Adriatic and it seems we may have come to reasonable and fair terms. Having the understanding that the company was taken over just recently, they have begun to work on the issues we have discussed at length. I feel that as of yesterday we may be able to work through the issues and in good time have a product with which we can both make money!

I did get to see some of their work today and I greatly appreciate the fact that they apologized for the delays. I hope that in the future we will both grow the business on a solid foundation of teamwork and communication.