Ultimate Technologies, Kirby Deceptive practices, stealing from Wal-Mart, door-to-door, Kirby dealers Ripoff Knoxville Tennessee

i can understand...they were hard on you....think of it like boot camp...they weed out the weak ones as fast as possible....

i can understand you were misled to a degree maybe about time schedule or something...but if you had any level of brain, you would have asked more questions and drawn clear boundaries before starting....but you sound like you were born yesterday....for one thing you werent actually being employed.... its actually an independent contractor position and just like any other ICP....there is no guaranteed wage for anything... its just a contract that says if you perform 48 qualified demos, youll get paid that 1600 or whatever....which is nothing.... the idea is that by doing 48 legit demos, you are gonna make at least about 2-3 times that much....

heck i made $5500 my first two weeks knocking doors with kirby....

so i would just be thankful for the free training....probly taught you more about business and life than you had ever learned up to that point....

and writing here about a 14 hour day....like as if it was 14 hours of straight work...and so the guy ripped wal mart a little.... BIG DEAL.... way to go....stick up for wal mart which has ruined more small towns and small businesses than id care to mention...

anyways kirbys seem pricey....but ill tell you i really havent seen another vacuum that compares much... dont get me wrong theres a couple of half decent cheapies out there...but ive had my kirby about 8 years...and ive used it for sooooo much i cant explain.... i even ran my own shampoo business with it...charged over $30/ hr.... cuz believe it or not...it does a great job....much better than the high pressure steam....anyways im just saying...one day youll learn what that experience was really about... LIFE! you tried, you were too weak....move on!

First of all, I worked for this company one summer before school started, and I believe the allegations made to be inaccurate. To me, it sounds as if this particular individual misinterpreted everything that was said.

The general reaction when a person is new in the business is much like this one. Most are very skeptical at first.

First of all, I would like to clarify a few things.

In the interview, I myself, asked what exactly the work would entail. I was told that there were various positions available, and that it really just depended on where you fit in. Set up and display, canvassing, and management opportunities were a few.

In the orientation, I CLEARLY remember the lady informing us of the $1600 a month guarantee which "averages to about 400 a week". NEVER did she say we would be payed 400 a week. Of course, you have to listen CAREFULLY. NOBODY is going to PAY you for NOT doing a job, right? I have never heard anything about a weekly 400 dollar paycheck. The way that the 1600 dollar guarantee worked was as follows:

1. You work AT LEAST 5 of the work days.
2. You put on a total of 48 demos in one month.
3. You do AT LEAST 10 demos a WEEK (you can have a bad week or two and make up for it in the next).
4. You do something called an "A to Z" demo, which consisted of showing the machine like they TOLD us to in training (you have to do the job right basically, but you have to do the job RIGHT ANYWHERE you work).

(This stuff basically became a bible to me because I wanted to make sure I knew what I had to do to make my money)

If you did all of these things, not ONLY would you make at LEAST 1600 a month, but you might even make a little more.

The way their payscale worked from what I understood, was like this:

Lets say you sold a total of only 5 Kirbys that whole month and you made about 1000 dollars by the end of the month, BUT you did your 48 demos! Then at the END of the month term, they cut you an ADDITIONAL check for 600 to equal 1600. Make sense? That 1600 has always been there to ensure that if you are going out and doing your job, you will still make some money. You didn't HAVE to sell a single Kirby (which is very unlikely when you do 48 shows) to get this. If you did 48 shows in a month and didn't sell a single one, they would write a check for 1600 dollars (which I have never seen happen with 48 shows).

If you sold around 8 to 10 in the month and made 1600+ on your own, they didn't cut you an ADDITIONAL 1600 check on top of that. Like I said, the 1600 was a guarantee to make sure we at LEAST made that in a month.

As far as the appointment stuff goes, that is what the canvassing department is there for. If they can get enough people to work as canvassers (appointment setters) then you don't have to knock on the doors yourself. Otherwise it is all up to you! And personally, I am somebody that is ready to make money for myself instead of waiting for somebody else to do it for me, so I didn't mind when we didn't use the canvassers.

As far as the hours, some nights we would end up working later than others. If you go out more than once, you will know this. For the most part, we usually worked from about noon (leave the office) to 8pm (drive home).

I don't think it is appropriate for somebody to give a false impression on a company where people are just trying to make an honest living. Maybe you didn't like it, but everyone else did fine.

And also, about the paychecks, all the taxes were done by 1099s which are sent out at the end of the year. So please be assured, everyone pays Uncle Sam!