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Report: #1498575

Complaint Review: BBB of Kansas City - Kansas City, Arlington MO, VA

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  • Reported By: Olathe KS United States
  • BBB of Kansas City Kansas City, Arlington , MO, VA United States

BBB of Kansas City International Association of Better Business Bureaus Failing to properly publish complaints and reviews Kansas City, Arlington MO, VA

*Author of original report: File a complaint against the International Association of Better Business Bureaus

*Consumer Comment: "Bad Press" About the BBB??? The BBB Is a WELL KNOWN Scam!

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I can't believe how incompetent this office is at their jobs.

I filed a complaint against a contractor for failing to install 7 fence posts per the terms of the written agreement. I had contacted this company numerous times before the complaint over the phone and in writing, and they failed to respond. I gave them a deadline and stated if I didn't hear back from them by "x" date that I would be filing a BBB report and one with the AG's office. So, I filed.

Immediately following filing, the contractor arrived at my home, banging on the door without an appointment and sent me written correspondence. Over the course of two weeks, the CEO and the contractor's son sent written correspondence to me by e-mail. All of this correspondence was forwarded to the BBB for their records. I planned on filing suit in small claims court per the AG of Kansas's recommendation, but I discussed the problem with my credit card provider and they agreed to open a dispute to reduce my stress and to expedite the problem.

Mackenzi, the BBB rep, closed out the file without a proper written response from me, citing she had my response from the correspondence and that the CEO was obviously trying to work out an arrangement with me, although I knew better from their track history with me and others. And, following their supposed resolution, they sent a contradictory one in the mail that failed to match the original written terms, trying to wriggle out of properly applying Creo Coat to the posts by extending the warranty. That wasn't the agreement, and I have no faith the company will stay in business that long considering their shoddy workmanship. No other BBB handles complaints this way.

They formally send the customer a response by e-mail asking if the resolution from the business is acceptable. Then, the complaint is closed. Moreover, I had to hear the complaint was closed from the CEO who openly bragged in writing about getting it closed. When I requested that it be reopened, Mackenzi flat out refused. I asked to speak to her supervisor, and she initially didn't provide her information although she claimed she would call me. Another 3 weeks later, still no callback. Over the course of over 45 days, I e-mailed the contractor 3x regarding setting a date for utilities and reinstallation. No replies.

I e-mailed Mackenzi and stated the contractor didn't live up to the resolution. She agreed to reopen the complaint, and I said I'd give them another 2 weeks to respond. At that point she finally provided her supervisor's phone number. When they failed to respond and American Express honored the dispute in my favor, I sent Mackenzi an e-mail with an update and told her I was tired of haranguing the contractor. I said she could reopen it or not, but I was providing them with the new information all the same for public records. I further said I would happily repay the contractor when they install as contracted. I received this message back from Mackenzi: "The BBB has audited your complaint history through our system and found that we can no longer handle your complaints against a business in good faith. Any current and future complaints will be closed as invalid."

What? I will freely admit I file my share of BBB complaints and am prone to whinging if something goes awry because that is what the forum is about, but all of my complaints are factual. Period. And, this e-mail isn't going to prevent me from continuing to file complaints. In the future, I am copying and pasting all complaints into a Word document. And, I will be compiling them and submitting complaints about this office and other offices that fail to properly record my complaints for record or fail to forward my complaints to the business.

I'll further say that I have filed BBB complaints recently, and the only office failing to process them is the Kansas City location. I recently pulled up the complaint history with the contractor, and they removed my complaint. I also pulled up the Google review I left for their office through Kansas City. Under my Google login, it shows the complaint is posted for the public to see. If I pull it up without the login, the complaint isn’t shown. Therefore, I believe the BBB of Kansas City contacted Google and suppressed my complaint.

More importantly, they sided with the business when I supplied ample documentation to show they were at fault, they had not resolved the matter and even sent them a record of the CEO’s criminal history published on the Missouri Secretary of State’s website. I have recently filed a complaint against the BBB with the attorney general of Virginia, where their International Association of Better Business Bureau’s is located. The behavior out of this office is absolutely atrocious.

I tried to keep an open mind with the BBB over the years, but all the bad press is valid. They don't care about the customer; they care more about collecting fees from business owners.

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File a complaint against the International Association of Better Business Bureaus

AUTHOR: - (United States)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 11, 2020

So, here were my recent next steps. 

I completed a search through Linked In for employees of the IABB (International Association of Better Business Bureaus). I found the names of their chief development officer, chief operating officer, VP and general counsel, and director of engagement and events. I called 703-276-0100 and was transferred to their extensions and started leaving messages. Within about an hour, I was contacted by a woman who is over BBB adherence. I also filed an Attorney's General report against the IABB with the state of Virginia. They have opened up an investigation on several complaints I wrote that were never properly addressed, including this one. They have stated they will get back in contact with me in the next 2 weeks. I also plan on filing one with my own state and the state of Missouri.

My advice to others would be to document when complaints were initially filed, make screen prints showing the filing and the complaint (should show the case number but every office is different), and save all replies from the office. There are problems with some locations allowing documents to upload when the complaint is filed, so make sure you send all supporting documentation to an e-mail address in the office, and click on the option to prove delivery and proof that they opened the e-mail. Then, once the complaint is resolved or unresolved, routinely check the site to make sure they have published the complaint and periodically check to make sure it hasn't been removed.

If you have a problem, document it, then file a formal complaint with the IABB. If enough people complain about the BBB's legitimacy, action will eventually be taken. I'd personally file a complaint with your state attorney's general, the state that the BBB is located in, and the state of VA due to the location of the IABB.

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"Bad Press" About the BBB??? The BBB Is a WELL KNOWN Scam!

AUTHOR: Momo - (United States)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 11, 2020

 The BBB is NOT the business police. The BBB is NOT part of ANY government body or law enforcement body. The BBB cannot force any business to do anything. The ONLY purpose of the BBB is to SELL their PHONY "ratings" and "accreditations" to ANY business which wants to buy them. If you complained about one of their CUSTOMERS, you automatically lose. The BBB and all their phony BS is a SCAM. Anyone who is in business for as long as 17 minutes KNOWS THIS!

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