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Complaint Review: Time Share Exchange - Internet

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  • Reported By: Jean — Park City Utah United States of America
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We believe that we have been scammed, duped, taken advantage of and lied to by Eric &The Villa Group/ Time Share Exchange Enterprises. . As a result we are out $19,100.

While staying at the Villa del Palmar Flamingos in July2012, we attended an update. At the update we met their Sales Manager Eric & Members. We were meeting with him (as compared to just one of the sales staff) because as gold members we had a significant annual maintenance fee commitment. At the meeting, he explained that they were concerned that at some point we would want to stop being members or in the future our heirs would not want to make the payments. The program he proposed addressed the organizations concern about receiving ongoing maintenance fees.

His proposal was twofold. The first part was to upgrade our gold membership and our fixed week unit without points to a Villa Preferred Access membership with points for $18,500. The second part of the proposal addresses why we spent $18,500 to have the same fixed week unit. He said and gave us a document in writing where he would allow us to rent, for the next 3 years, both our 3-bedroom unit for a net amount of $3,400 per week (rental amount less maintenance fee) and a 2-bedroom unit for $2,200 per week. After the initial 3 year period we could rent out one 2-bedroom unit for $2,200 each year, while going back to using our 3-bedroom unit.

Also during this initial 3 year time period, we could use a 2-bedroom unit for a cost of the $798 maintenance fee. He would upgrade this unit to an ocean front or penthouse unit prior to check-in. The 3 years of $3,400 net for the 3-bedroom plus 3 years of the 2-bedroom unit for $2,200 would offset most of the upgrade fee of $18,500. Subsequent to the 3 year period, the annual rental for a 2-bedroom unit at $2,200 would cover ongoing maintenance fees. Of course the rental fees would increase by 23% annually. In addition we paid a $600 fee to Enterprise Travel to facilitate the rental process.

Unfortunately no rental monies were ever paid. But of course we paid on our side. The net result of this process has been to pay a large sum of money to convert a gold fixed week unit we already had access to into the same exact unit with points.

In January 2013 we were at the resort and found out several disappointing things, confirming what had happened to us. It started with our VIP Concierge Debbie Fox now being an Elite Concierge. She initially thought we were elite members since our points exceeded the minimum necessary for this program. At an update we found out that we were not elite members, that the previous sales staff was no longer employed and that we were one of many who had been duped by their sales staff. They said we should be happy we only spent what we did as compared to what some other owners had paid. Naturally, if we paid more money and obtained more points we could be elite members and have access to some of the areas around the pool that we previously had access to.

The bottomline: We assumed because the Sales Manager was an employee that his proposal was credible, good for both parties and that his actions were sanctioned and managed by The Villa Group/Universal Vacation Club.

We have been in touch several times with The Villa Group. They have concluded that, in spite of the gross misrepresentation (our words) and some accountability must be held for both parties involved (his words), that there is nothing wrong here. UVC apparently has no accountability at all.

While we would recommend the Villa del Parlmar Flamingos as a great resort to visit, we would, however, suggest that anyone listening to their spin at an update or sales presentation go in with their eyes open and understand how they operate.

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#3 General Comment

Buyer Doesn't Understand the Roles of the Companies

AUTHOR: Paul - (United States)

POSTED: Sunday, October 01, 2023

It sounds like the Buyer was a Gold Member, and they upgraded to Villa Preferred Access.  Gold Members had access weeks 1-50.  Weeks 51 & 52 were available for an increased price.  Villa Preferred Access is a points based system.  You purchase a specific quantity of points, and additional points are available at a pre-determined price.  You come to any of the resorts participating in the program, and stay for whatever length of stay you prefer.  

ResortCom is the servicing agent.  ResortCom does not make resort policies, they implement whatever policies are enacted by the Board of Directors.  Universal Vacation Club has nothing to do with any buy-back plan, and that is why they refused to discuss the issue with the buyer.

It is true that timeshare sales personnel often tell some tall tales.  However, it is the buyer's responsibility to review the contract, and if they disapprove of the provisions of the contract, a rescission period of 5 working days (excluding Sunday and Holidays) applies in Mexico.  

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Villa Group Scam

AUTHOR: Jennifer Williams - ()

POSTED: Thursday, May 23, 2013

I stayed there last year. First impressions were amazing but this soon changed after being hassled for what they said would be 90 mins of our time but was really 3 hours later 4 sales reps trying to talk us in to a timeshare. Rooms were nice but cleanliness wasn't at all. Our bed got changed once and that was the night before we left...very pointless!!! The maid seem to do what was the basic cleaning like changing towels etc and I think our room got swept twice in our stay. I would never stay there again, this is another forum with more people who were scammed by Villa del Palmar: Villa del Palmar

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Villa Group Scam

AUTHOR: RoseW - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, February 14, 2013

Villa del Palmars Sales Practice has a well recognize reputation for the lies, scams and most likely to misrepresented the contract at the moment of signing. Villa del Palmar sales associate like any other sales person will tell you all the wonders you want to hear to make a purchase, most timeshare presentation last 90 minutes, but at Villa del Palmar you can be up to 4 hrs in there. I'm sorry you fell for this scam, I know a company called Mexican Timeshare Solutions that can give you a totally free consultation on how to get out of that contract, this is their website:

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