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Complaint Review: RED TRIANGLE MEDIA - Internet

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What I am about to reveal is the 100% TRUTH about Red Triangle Media.  Nothing in this report is defamation of Character.  Defamation is slander, Bad mouthing someone who has a good reputation.  This report is the 100% Proof of the non performance and total rip off i experienced with Red Triangle Media and they need to be exposed to the public to protect consumers.   

Red Triangle believes they can rip you off and you cant expose them because of a contract and they'll threaten to sue you for defamation!!!  Well guess what, the TRUTH is NOT Defamation and These Big companies feel they can rip people off and threaten you with law suits so they can continue their fraud.

So to Red Triangle's Attorneys, Lets go to court because I have PROOF That this company is a TOTAL RIP OFF!

Ok lets go.  I met Dave Maise back in March.  I had bad experiences on Fiverr getting Leads for my services which are Business & Personal.  On the Phone, Dave explained to me that Red Triangle Media can get me Qualified Leads for my Loan services and I won't have to worry about the bad experiences I had with Fiverr.  He said "Trust me You'll won't regret It".  I said Ok Ill try you out.   

He sent an email on March 7th @ 7:03pm, he stated :

We are able to produce Real-Time loan leads.  These leads are looking for commercial and or personal loan funding, Business, Start-up or capital funding.  Each lead directly provided directly to your smartphone from the prospect directly as they make their request.  

Here are our most popular option.

They had 3 options, I chose the cheapest to start with which was:

One week of unlimited loan leads or 168hrs of leads - $385

To spice it up more.  He sent an email earlier that same day @ 4:16pm that stated :

Our program is centered around "QUALITY", volume and your "ROI" so no cap the time period is what governs the volume.

I put those two words in Caps & quotations.  Please remember these two words

1. QUALITY

2. ROI "Return of Investment"

I sent Dave My Funding Criteria by email on March 7th @ 7:31pm

Now Option one was for Personal Loans.  My criteria CLEARLY states:

Minium Loan size : $10,000 

Max is $425K

term 3 to 4 years

Must have 700 fico MINIMUM 

Must be a W2 Employee making 40k annually 

 

Ok with all that said.  This is what I received from Red Triangle Media:

Option 1 $385 One week of loan leads ordered

I recieved ONE WEEK OF TOTAL JUNK LEADS, Remember he said "QUALITY" rite???

Every Lead they sent me, I MEAN EVERY SINGLE LEAD they sent me was the total OPPOSITE of my funding criteria.  I recieved a sleu of clients with 500 credit scores, low 600s. Some was even low as in the 400s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  He sent me a Load of Bad credit Clients.

Junk Leads from Craigslist, Junk internet surfer leads

Ok, he did send like a couple that had scores that were just good by the numbers, but their credit files were sooooo THIN, they couldnt even get approved for a Pallet of Doritos.   I mean someone with One chump $500 Credit card on their file with a 680 is NOT QUALITY.

It was a 98% Return of Junk.  Many leads I contacted had no idea that they applied for a loan.  Dave had to contact them back and go thru a reminder.  Most of them did not respond, had disconnected numbers, did not answer by text or email.  The little handful I spoke to was looking for bad & poor credit loans as small as $1500!!!!!  Like some pay day crap loans.  I was heated.  I spoke to clients who hung up on me, Said no I'm not looking for funding.  When the score was sent to me as good, when I finally got to someone it was No...I dont have good credit. My score is 500 something or so d**n low I would just sigh in frustration.  One guy said he saw my ad on craigslist!!! I said "CRAIGSLIST"!!!???

 

I contacted Dave, like What the hell is this???  I said  You get your leads from Craigslist?? I paid for that??? He said No.  I said I just spoke to a client you sent and HE SAID there was an Ad on Craigslist.  Dave said let me call my marketing team and find out what happen.  Dave called me back and said oh your Lead flow got mixed up with another lead flow, but we fixed that issue.  WHAT?? I thought you dont use Craigslist tho??

I said ok Dave, what about the rest of these leads.  These are junk! Dave said these are not junk, He actually told me that Bad credit loans is a Good Business!!!  I said I aint LOOKING for  BAD Credit leads.  He said Oh you never told me that you were looking for Good credit leads!  I SAID DAVE, I sent you my CRITERIA!! He said oh we didnt get it.  I said C'mon man. This is ridiculous!

 

I said I want a refund man.  He said you can't get a refund yet, the lead flow still has another day to run.  I said I don't want it.  It sucks.  He said well you chose option one and this promotion is just regular loan leads, We have Premium Leads, Now this is a different animal.  You'll receive clients that need Bail out loans for pre-foreclosure.  I explained to him previously that I give bail out loans for pre-foreclosure so he suggested that

 

So here's the second deal.  He wouldn't refund me money from option one.  He said We'll give another run of option one AND You can order the Premium Leads.  He said Rite now we have a client looking for a Bail out loan for multiple garages he has worth $800k.  I said Ok,  Lets try that.  If this doesn't work man, I want my money back. He said I'll definitely get a good ROI with the Premium Leads.

On March 11th@ 10:04pm he stated:

Ok good news, we can open up a channel for you on the pre-foreclosure leads.  These are part  of our "High-end leads premium, so they are a bit more expensive, but we can structure the order around a few benefits.  This will make it beneficial to you on mutliple levels and conducive for us based on our lead channels.

These level of leads are usually for our CC Big buys, Investment and Real Estate Liquidation buyers.  Usually when only one of these high end leads convert for our clients, it more than covers the cost of the entire order. So if you can afford and have the budget for premium level we have some options for you.

Again, 3 options, the highest option is no price, the 2nd opiton is a whopping $3250!!!!

I chose the cheapest , option 1 30 days 720 hours of "Targeted lead flow"@ $2550. Remember the word 

"TARGETED"

Your order will be for be for pre-foreclosure leads only commercial and residential.  "US" only

Remember the word "US"  ( United States )

The order will contain the Triangle Trifecta Guarantee. Refund Guarantee

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Now he so called got me a discount down to $2175

which had some ridiculous  additional fee that brought it right back near $2550

Now remember these three words

1. Targeted Leads

2. US (United States)

3. Triangle Trifecta Guarantee Refund Guarantee

Now I sent a bank Wire on March 14th to their Wells Fargo Bank

confirmation number : OPF215540519

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Ok here we go.

1. Another run of the regular Leads

2. 1 run of the Premium Leads for Pre-foreclosures

Guess what I received??

A PLETHORA OF COMPLETE JUNK

1. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the second run of regular loan leads

2. Remember  "Only in US" ( United States )

They sent me a lead which turned out to be a SCAMMER FROM VENEZUELA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was furious. I contacted Dave. here was his response by text:

What....Are you serious

We have country filters, he should not even be able to access our channles outside of US

 

He said Ill be recieving a Cannibis lead....Never came

He sent me a Salon Owner who did not respond to my email.  Phone number had no voicemail setup. When I texted the number I got a reply message that said: Error Invalid number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.

Dave told me she is the OWNER of the Salon and he will check if they have a second number in their database.  NEVER HEARD AGAIN from him about the Salon lead.

 

From March all the way to the LAST WEEK OF JUNE ALL I RECIEVED WAS ONE GOOD LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Besides that ONE Miracle, 

AN EGYPTIAN PYRAMID SIZE OF GARBAGE LEADS!!

ABSOLUTELY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  PRE-FORECLOSURE LEADS!!!  NOT ONE.  More Bad credit, More Junk leads,  Long Time Gaps of no leads.  I would meme Dave like WTH am I still waiting for ???  This is a waste of money.  I actually got a "I was out sick" reply once too.  He claimed he sent a fashion store lead..... I never got that.  From March to the Last week of June I GOT NOTHING BUT CRAP, OPPOSITE OF MY CRITERIA.  

 

Now Im pissed and Demanded a Refund.  After all that money spent, ALL those Bad leads, Remember the phrase "TARGETED LEADS"...... There was ABSOLUTELY NO TARGETED LEADS!!!!  The Premium lead flow order was for Pre-Foreclosures and I RECIEVED NONE!!! 

 

Remember "The Triangle Trifecta Guarantee" Refund Guarantee.  Well I brought that to Dave's attention when I demanded a Refund!  After All that time waiting for what I paid for, going thru scam artists, junk leads....

HE ACTUALLY SAID NO TO A REFUND!!!!!

Dave always bragged about oh we have clients spending $12,000 a month for leads with us.  YEA RITE!  You get that type of money but youre ripping me off for a $2175

 

ARe you KIDDING ME.  He said oh we have 120 days to fix the issue!!!  IM LIKE GTFOH  YOU SUCK!!!  You can't even supply more than ONE QUALIFIED LEAD.  You send me More JUNK than Bill Cosby got pills and you expect me to wait another 120 days!!!!! So you want a 3rd, 4th,5th and a 6th Chance!!!  Thats 4 months.  This Company wants me to wait until OCTOBER FOR THEM TO GET ME A PRE-FORECLOSURE LEAD!!!!!

I said HELL NO, REFUND MY MONEY.  If not I'm gonna expose you on Rip Off Report.  Here he goes with the Oh We'll Sue you for Defamation of Character!!!!!! 

NOW After EVERYTHING I just wrote about them..... IS THIS DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER???? 

OR A COMPANY WHO COULD NOT PERFORM THE TASK AND WANTS TO KEEP STRINGING ME ALONG WITH BS!!!!!  

So Ofcourse I went on a rampage and called him every name under the book and like a sissy he says Im threatening him, he scared, Im harassing him because I said I'll put him in an arm bar and beat him in a Boxing match.  You d**n rite after ripping me off you think someone wants to talk nice to you and take you out to lunch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you spent almost $3000 for a company to supply you qualified leads and all they sent you was small time GARBAGE completely OPPOSITE of your Criteria and DID NOT WANT TO REFUND YOU MONEY, Wouldnt you be upset to.  He wanted to talk to me on the phone??  Theres no need to talk.  You guys are HORRIBLE, Refund my money.  SInce they didnt want to, I went off on him.  Anyone who has ever been RIPPED OFF knows how I feel.

 

I contacted the BBB on them and they couldnt even find a Business Address for this company.  Its hidden somewhere.

Anyways this is the 100% TRUE STORY OF RED TRIANGLE MEDIA.  I can't speak about other lead services they have, what I do know if you need LOAN LEADS of any type, Commercial loans, Personal loans,Business loans and LEADS for Pre-Foreclosures they CAN NOT PERFORM and will NOT REFUND YOUR MONEY, They will RIP YOU OFF and use every excuse under the SUN why they cant get the leads and will threaten to sue you if you expose them. 

Remember Exposing the truth about how you were ripped off is NOT DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER.

If you were Ripped of by this Company or ANY company at that, Do NOT let them stop you from exposing them by the threats of a law suit. 

Telling the truth how you were ripped off is NOT DEFAMATION of CHARACTER!!  Ill give Red Triangle Media's Attorney all the CLients I was sent and they can see for themselves how I was ripped off and should get refunded.

THIS COMPANY WILL RIP YOU OFF

2175 THUMBS DOWN. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

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#7 Author of original report

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AUTHOR: Red Triangle exposer - (United States)

POSTED: Thursday, August 15, 2019

More list of Bad Clients

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AUTHOR: Red Triangle Media Exposer - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, August 14, 2019

Some Docs did not load properly But I am Back to include those that were missing.  In this Report I'm going to throw some emails in also.

At the moment we're trying to figure out a solution with craigslist if they can retrieve that expired post. As you will see with these docs.

You will see email PROOF THAT MY LOAN APPROVAL CRITERIA WAS SENT TO DAVE WELL BEFORE THE ORDER STARTED.  HE RECIEVED IT AND SAW THAT IT SAID 700+ FICO ON ALL 3 BUREAUS AND STILL SENT JUNK CLIENTS.  Mind you, on a call with Dave, he told me it's impossible for anyone to have 700 plus on all three bureaus LMFAO!!!  But he said he will send PREMIUM CLIENTS!!! 

But since that was a PHONE CALL and not by text or email, he will definitely say "Oh I didn't say that, what i said was....blah blah....These dudes are NON PERFORMING RIP OFFS like so many fake companies on the net.  It's a Pool of Poop

If granted, I will be posting the "actual ad" that Red Triangle Media" put in craiglist that ACTUALLY said and i quote "APPROVAL ISNT CREDIT BASED"!!!  And this is coming from a MARKETING COMPANY who said I will be getting "PREMIUM PRE-FORECLOSURE LEADS" & HYPER TARGETED LEADS based on my Criteria 

I will also be contacting the client that saw that post if theres a copy in his sent folder.  I'm offering $2500 CASH TO ANYONE WHO CAN RETRIEVE THAT POST. 

This will be SUPER DEN TO THE MAX POWER TO SHOW THAT POST!!!!  Even tho I have the text proof and the posting ID, I WANT TO SEE THAT ACTUAL AD AND SCREENSHOT IT WITH A GOLDEN ARCH AROUND IT!!!

I have soooo many junk files from this company it is pathetic.  

THEY DO NOT SEND PREMIUM LEADS.

THEY CHARGE YOU OUTRAGEOUS LEAD GENERATION FEES AND POST ADS ON CRAIGLIST AS YOU CAN SEE AS PROOF.  AND THIS WAS THE THIRD CLIENT THAT TOLD ME THEY SAW THE POST ON CRAIGLIST. 

I DID NOT RECIEVE NOT ONE PREMIUM PRE-FPRECLOSURE LEAD!!!!!!!!!!  NOT ONE!!!!

ONLY BAD PERSONAL LOAN LEADS

NON PERFORMING LEADS

SCAM ARTIST LEADS

NON RESPONDING LEADS AKA FISHERS N TIRE KICKERS

BUT I PAID THESE CLOWNS CLOSE TO $3000 !!! 

FOR WHAT???  JUST TO POST ADS ON CRAIGSLIST AND BAD CREDIT ADS AROUND THE NET AND DAVE HAS A NERVE TO GET SOMEONE NAME KURT TO COME ON HERE AND ACT LIKE IM FAKE, LIKE I DONT HAVE A BUNCH OF EMAILS AND TEXTS OF ALL THE BAD LEADS

IF THERE WAS A NUMBER.... I WOULD SAY OUT OF 100 LEADS. RED TRIANGLE MEDIA SENT.....

ONE GOOD LEAD.  AND SAYS NO TO A REFUND

THEN SAYS WE WILL SUE YOU FOR DEFAMATION!!!

THIS COMPANY IS THE MECHANIC WHO COMES BY YOUR HOUSE TO FIX YOUR TRANSMISSION WITH A BUTTER KNIFE, DAMAGES YOUR SHIFTER AND SAYS : HEY I DID MY JOB!! 

YOUR CAR CAN'T EVEN GO IN GEAR AND THEN SAYS HEY MAN ILL SUE YOU IF YOU TELL ANYONE WHAT I DID, THATS DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER!!!

RED TRIANGLE MEDIA HAS NO CHARACTER, THEY ARE A FILTHLY LOWN DOWN DIRT BALL COMPANY WHO WILL RIP YOU OFF

If anyone knows any computer tech or has any inside craiglist connection that can retrieve that ad which the posting ID is 

New York

Post ID : 6838616919

I WILL PAY YOU $2500 DIRECT INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BY CASH APP, PAYPAL, ZELLE..ETC ETC

 

BUT REMEMBER THO

LIKE KURT SAID

"IM FAKE AND JUST WANT FREE LEADS!!!

IM PATIENTLY WAITING FOR RED TRIANGLE MEDIA'S ATTORNEY TO CONTACT ME FOR THIS DEFAMATION LAWSUIT BECAUSE I HAVE MY ATTORNEY & PI ON STAND BY WITH ALL THE CLIENTS THAT YOU EVER SENT ME AND THEY ARE ALL OPPOSITE OF WHAT I PAID AND YOU DID NOT REFUND ME AFTER MUTLIPLE ROUNDS OF LEAD GENERATION

AND THERE IS A LINK ON HERE THAT SAYS WILL YOU MIND TO GET CONTACTED BY THE MEDIA, I HAVEN'T GOT CONTACTED BY ANYONE BUT IM GOING TO FIND OUT HOW!!!!

"OH YOU KNOW WE KEPT THE FILES"

RED TRIANGLE MEDIA IS A RIP OFF SCAMMING COMPANY

 

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UPDATED DOCS FROM LAST REBUTTAL SCAM REPORT

AUTHOR: Red Triangle Media Exposer - (United States)

POSTED: Monday, August 12, 2019

This is some Update proof Docs, just a snippet

1. Text Proof of the Venezuela Scam Lead

2. Henry Owens 

3. Amanda

4. Marc CRAIGSLIST LEAD!! College student that lives with his Dad

But Kurt said, Im FAKE & Just want Free leads

ANd Dave said Im getting Hyper Targeted Pre Foreclosure Premium Leads

And in the begining he said these will all good leads and he's sure ill be satisfied

Proof Emails coming soon. This is a very time consumig process from screenshots to email to saving to desk top to loading on here.  I might create a youtube video to show proof , if not just stay tuned for moree DOCS!

This is Proof of Non Performance, Bad leads etc etc..

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UPDATED SCAM REPORT WITH PROOF DOCS

AUTHOR: RED TRIANGLE MEDIA EXPOSER - (United States)

POSTED: Sunday, August 11, 2019

Hello Consumers!  As I previously stated on my last rebuttal that i Would post DOCUMENTED PROOF that RED TRIANGLE MEDIA is nothing but a bunch of rip offs, liars & a company that is incompetent and does NOT PERFORM THE DUTIES / TASK that you pay them for and in addition to that, they hide behind bullsh*t language in their contracts to promote a fear tactic claming they will sue you for defamation of character if you try to expose them!  WOW!!! 

Consumers & Business People across the world... DO NOT FALL FOR THIS BS!  You can NOT DEFAME the CHARACTER of a SCAMMER!!!!  Think about it:

  If you're not happy with a company's performance, I mean you've came to the conclusion that they basically just "SUCK" and is not living up to your expectations and can NOT PRODUCE LEADS BASED ON YOUR CRITERIA and you REQUEST A REFUND and they tell you NO, then give you excuses about "Let us try again, our contract states we can try again"....

Annnnnd You let them TRY AGAIN and they STILL SUCK AND CONTINUE TO PRODUCE JUNK LEADS and you AGAIN, request a REFUND and they AGAIN TELL YOU NO!!!??  AHHHH,  ISN'T that RIPPING YOU OFF!!!??

Then after lies upon lies, they come back and say, Hey can we talk on the phone about the refund.  My response is HELL NO, theres NOTHING to talk about.  JUST REFUND MY MONEY!  I don't talk to lying salesmans because there is no proof of a conversation so I do everything by text and or email. 

If i continued to talk to these people; I WOULD NOT HAVE THIS PROOF.. After I said Im going to ripoff report then the fake text come thru like Hey you didnt wanna talk to us about your refund so we're not giving it??!!! 

Listen I am very well dressed in Psychology!!!  Very Well Dressed by Real Experiences!  Not by college reading courses.  Real Experiences being around the most savvy investors and salesman..  You learn their BS immediately.   

Red Triangle Media can only lie and produce FEAR in the uninitiated!! 

OK IT'S GO TIME!!

I will breakdown my proof in Categories.

First Category : Lies and Reverse Psychology

The Lies of Red Triangle Media Person, Author of Rebuttal KURT.

Kurt said this : 

"Unfortunately this is a false review, fake, staged and heavily omitted.  This Individual has targeted us just as he has targeted many marketing companies and is a gross habitual abuser of fake reviews using sites with no vetting process.  He poses as a fake customer, purchases services waits until services are fully delivered then complains and finds every reason to cry refund"

Lol, This to the uninitiated sounds powerful and like True words spoken But to people who know bs and lies from the gate always have the BEST REBUTTAL and the TRUTH NEVER DIES.

Here's how we break down this lie.

1. Kurt says I'm fake and I targeted them and "MANY" Marketing Companies and Im an ABUSER of Fake Reviews?

Really?  OK Now Kurt Can you Prove this as true or is this just a Lie combined with Reverse Psychology,

Here's the Truth.  I have NOT EVER MADE any REVIEWS on ANY OTHER MARKETING COMPANY EVER!  

Search my name Ian Richardson on Rip Off Report or ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET.

  See if you can find ANY HABITUAL ABUSE of FAKE REVIEWS!!  All you will find that I blasted a PERSON who RIPPED ME OFF WITH FAKE TRADELINES.

THATS A PERSON, AND I MENTIONED HIS FRIEND IN THE REPORT ALSO.

HIS FRIEND GOT MAD BECAUSE I WOULDNT TALK TO HIM AFTERWARDS. I CAME TO A CONCLUSION, YOUR FRIEND RIPPED ME OFF.  YOU SPOKE TO HIM BUT WOULDN'T DO A THREE-WAY CALL WITH ALL OF US. 

THE SCAMMER WHO IS YOUR FRIEND ANSWERS YOUR CALL BUT DOESN'T ANSWER MY CALL, BUT YOU BOTH SPEAK ABOUT ME, THE ONE WHO GOT SCAMMED. IN MY EYES, THEYRE BOTH SCUM.

I have NEVER USED THE SERVICE OF ANY OTHER MARKETING COMPANY!!! 

So MR. KURT this Proves LIE # 1 

Kurt I CHALLENGE YOU TO POST THE MANY OTHER MARKETING COMPANIES that i did a FAKE REVIEW on.  You said "MANY"  ...well Please can you POST JUST ONE, PROVE YOUR REBUTTAL!  You can't because You n I both KNOW THAT IS A 100% LIE.  

LIE # 2

"He poses as a fake customer, purchases services until services are fully delivered then complains and finds every reason to cry refund"

Remember Esther Rolle from Good Times When James Died :

"d**n d**n DAAAAMN"!!

This is just downright Pathetic and STUPID! 

You really have to read that and realize HOW STUPID that is. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD SOMEBODY SPEND THEIR MONEY THEN ASK FOR A REFUND IF SERVICES WERE RENDERED!!?? 

Kurt, Kurt, Kurt.....ahhhhh ( sigh )

 You're going to see by all the text messages and emails that The SERVICES WERE NEVER RENDERED and THAT'S WHY I REQUESTED A REFUND!  NOT ONCE will you find any message from DAVE that says "Hey we sent you everything, the services are done, you can't get a refund"....

YOU'LL WONT FIND THAT. 

What you'll find is YOU GUYS GOING FOR ANOTHER ROUND because you DIDNT FULLFILL THE TASK  the FIRST TIME, and the SECOND TIME YOU STILL DID NOT FULLFILL THE TASK.  So SERVICES WAS NEVER RENDERED MY FRIEND......d**n Kurt, You need more training in Your Lie game, It sucks more than your Leads. LOL

LIE # 3

"He then threatens to extort money back from the marketing companies saying that he did not get the services he paid for. The reason he does this is he will not work leads he only wants free and easy conversions

Now you're on AMBER ALERT.  Lying this much means you're are either a Pathelogical Liar or a Compulsive Liar.  

Ok You will see by the text and email messages that I TRIED to WORK their Leads and you will see the no responses, scammers from overseas, junk from craigslist, disconnected numbers etc etc.  Free and Easy LMFAO! And Kurt you said I try to extort money back from the marketing "Companies"....Hmmm Companies as if I did this to "Multiple" Companies....Please in your next rebuttal PRODUCE THAT PROOF OF EXTORTION of these other COMPANIES and also YOURS TOO!!!

LIE # 4

"So like many other designed these extortion tactics to get free leads, pick the good ones, then cowardly victimizes himself to get money back then repeats this process to other companies.  Most times when an individual starts a compliant with this is 100% truth most times its heavliy fabricated"

Ohhhhhh Really Kurt. Hmmm Okay once again you said "COMPANIES'. Kurt you keep making this reference.  Please post the PROOF THAT I DO THIS TO OTHER COMPANIES INCLUDING YOURS.  See your rebuttal is just Lies combined with Reverse Psychology.  Its just well written.  

Extortion tactics to get free leads and pick the good ones..."GOOD ONES".  As I stated before you guys only sent ONE GOOD LEAD!  The rest were junk and you even sent leads from CRAIGSLIST!! So the only one getting free leads was Red Triangle Media.  And yes YOU KNOW I KEPT THE FILES.

LIE # 5

"We like many other companies he has done this to try to contact him to discuss his issues and he always refuses to speak to any of us because he knows we know he is lying and simply doing this to get free services then cash back.

Let me explain this crap in detail.  The first time I SPOKE TO DAVE ON THE PHONE and said I wanted a Refund, He said NO, its too early our contract states we get another run.  I said you sent me all junk tho!!!

He says oh bad credit loans is a good business.  I said I NEVER ASKED YOU FOR BAD CREDIT LOAN LEADS! 

Dave said Oh well you never actually told me you wanted Good Clients??  I SAID I SENT YOU MY lOAN APPROVAL CRITERIA!!! 

He said oh we didnt get it!!!  And after having a few talks with Dave, I realize he was a reverse psychology salesman SNAKE and I said no more phone calls! 

I have to use text and email as PROOF AND IM GLAD I DID or I wouldn't be able to back up my PROOF. 

AFTER Telling me I can't get a refund many times and then telling me oh if you put us on rip off report and tell this issue we'll sue you for defamation of character, we told everyone about you, after I said I'm still gonna do it, its hey lets talk on the phone????  TALK ABOUT WHAT???

  I DON'T NEED TO HEAR ANYTHING!!  YOU GUYS FROM MARCH TO JULY COULD NOT PRODUCE MORE THAN ONE LEAD. 

I REQUESTED REFUND LIKE 3 TIMES ON THE PHONE WITH DAVE THEN AGAIN BY TEXT AND AFTER YOU CANT SCARE ME FROM EXPOSING YOU, ITS HEY LETS TALK, IF YOU DONT TALK TO US YOURE NOT GETTING YOUR REFUND???

NEWS FLASH: YOU ALREADY SAID NO 4 TIMES!!!!!  THE ONLY THING WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN WAS YOU TAKE THE L AS A PROFESSIONAL AND JUST REFUND ME AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE! 

"YOU GONNA LEARN TODAY"......Kevin Hart"

AND KURT ONCE AGAIN, YOU SAID IVE DONE THIS TO MANY OTHER COMPANIES!!!  PLEASE KURT, PROVE THAT POINT.  You've said it like 3 or 4 times already.  WE WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT OTHER COMPANIES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.  AND PLEASE LET THE PROOF BE REAL & UNDOCTORED.

WE WANT TO SEE A REAL BS REVIEW AND EXTORTION TACTICS WITH MY REAL INFO ATTACHED THAT YOU CLAIM I DID

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OK LETS GET TO THE GRITTY PART / PROOF DOCUMENTS

What your see here is proof emails & Text but Rememebr what Kurt said: I'm Fake and this is a Fake Report and he said Services were Rendered" PLEASE REMEMBER THAT!

First email : DAVE Exhibit # 1 

Dave states leads are Real-Time and looking for 

1. Commercial loans, Personal loan funding

2. Business, Start up of Capital Funding

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Dave email exhibit # 2

Youll see proof of my criteria that was sent and all conversations about the leads

EVERYTHING!

Dave email exhibit # 3

Youll see the contract and you can read for yourself what they CLAIM they was going to do and what I paid for

Signed Contract Doc Email

Youll see our hand signatues, ( But remember "Im fake" )

Dave email exhibit # 5

Youll see proof email that I was supposed to get

"PREFORECLOSURE PREMIUM LEADS"!!!!

Dave email exhibit # 6

Youll see "Brick & Mortar Proof" Claim

 

Dave email exhibit # 7

Youll see "Proof Of Lead Type"

 

Dave email exhibit # 8

He states that they are Hyper Targeted Leads

 

Dave email exhibit # 9 

More Contract Proof

 

Dave email exhibit #10

Proof of second round of leads

 

Dave email exhibit # 11

Proof leads were active

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Now lets start with the ONLY lead that was good.  ONE

Client named James.  His credit was But he was a Business owner and if you read my criteria youll see with business owners, we go off of the profit of the business.

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These Next clients fall into one category

BAD CLIENTS! I was promised PREMIUM QUALITY LEADS

PREMIUM PREFORECLOSURE LEADS. I DID NOT RECEIVE NOT ONE OF THOSE!

 

These leads didnt respond, had bad credit and poor credit, disconnected numbers etc etc

1. Sara francisco "Salon Owner"

2. Henry Owens : A lead sent Twice to no avail

3. Marc - "CRAIGLIST POST? ID # 6838616919

A GAWD d**n COLLEGE STUDENT THAT LIVES WITH HIS DAD?  Oh yea I was getting Premium Leads for Preforclosure!!!!  Commercial Loans, Capital Loans rite???  PREMIUM HYPER TARGETED!!!!???

4. Audrey Walker 

Audrey is / was an referral agent to one of the lenders I use.  NICE! 

BUt remember, Kurt said Im Fake and this is a Fake Report and services were rendered and I just want free leads!!!!!!

5. Darius Outling : Nothing

6. Richard Torres - Nothing'

7. Karen :??  No tradeline to SUpport her income Claim of $96,461!!!

Couldn't Proof up with income claim.  Pays for a car that doesnt report to credit bureaus

Never sent financials.

I called GM Financials to check her claims. They said she's been late MULTIPLE TIMES.

Almost makes $100k per year and has $300 Tradeline!!  PLEASE WE KNOW WHAT'S UP!!

BUT THESE ARE HYPER TARGETED PREMIUM LEADS RITE!! Mr Kurt & Dave,  I'm fake tho rite??

8. John

Low credit score

9. Amanda 

Very low score

Ty Payne : LMFAO!!!

Krystle Ann: NO SHOW

Colleen Baldwin

560-600 Credit score

CHARGE OFFS & LATES!!!!

Patrick Phillips wants 2500-5000??? BUt my criteria is $10k Minimum

Bad credit!! Yes Kurt Im just this Fake guy making up all these names rite???

PLEASE GO TO TEXT MESSAGE LABLED : DAVE'S EXCUSES

ALL THE BUSINESS CLIENTS WHO MADE CLAIMS, FAILED WHEN IT WAS TIME TO SHOW PROOF AND NOBODY ADVANCED.  ALL CLIENTS DISAPPEARED.  NOTHING WAS HYPER TARGETED PREMIUM

I DID NOT GET ANY PREFORECLOSURE LEADS!!!  

KURT YOU SAID :

"He Converts leads then says they are all bad except the ones he Converts"

Ok Kurt Time to Proof up what you say.

I CHALLENGE KURT TO PROVE THIS STATEMENT. SEND WHATEVER CLIENT THAT I CONVERTED THEN AFTERWARDS SAID THEY WERE BAD EXCEPT THE ONES i CONVERTED....

THIS SOUNDS PATHETIC!!!!!   

YOULL SEE IN MY MESSAGES THAT JAMES WAS THE ONLY REAL & TRUE CLIENT.!!!

AGAIN SEE TEXT LABLED: DAVE'S EXCUSES

THIS WILL END MY PROOF REBUTTAL PART 1

MIND YOU:  I DARE YOU TO RESPOND BECAUSE I HAVE SO MUCH MORE PARTS MR KURT.  THIS GETS DEEPER THAN THE ABYSS AND I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL IM REFUNDED.

BE VERY CARFEFUL ON WHAT YOU SAY.....BECAUSE MY NEXT RESPONSE WILL BE THANOS 2.0

AND OH YES, IM PATIENTLY WAITING FOR THIS COURT DATE.  I HAVE A NICE PROOF PACKAGE OF YOUR CRAP SITTING IN A VAIL OF DEFECATION.  

SEND THE S CALLED GOOD CLIENTS THAT YOU SENT??

SENT THESE CLIENTS THAT I CONVERTED THEN LATER SAID THEY WERE BAD???

RED TRIANGLE MEDIA IS A BUNCH OF SNAKE OIL SCAM ARTIST SCUMBAGS

IF YOU WANT LEADS THAT COME FROM CRAIGSLIST AND FREE SITES, THIS IS WHAT YOURE PAYING THEM TO DO JUST READ MY PROOF!

AS TIME PROGRESSES ILL BE UPLOADING DOCS AS THE WEEKS GO BY BECAUSE IT'S TIME CONSUMING TO DO ALL IN ONE DAY

 

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RED TRIANGLE SCAM UPDATE PROOF DOCUMENTS & Conversations on this Scam Company will be POSTED Next

AUTHOR: The Red Triangle Scam Exposer - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 31, 2019

Ok, I had to submit this update for anyone reading that nicely reverse psychology written rebuttal which the author is kurt.  Guess what, I dont even know who this person is , Never dealt with him.  I Believe he sent me like one email before with info but thats it.  I did NOT deal with this dude.  So the fact that he's the author of this rebuttal is beyond pathetic.  The Scammer I dealt with is named Dave Maise who probably went to Kurt and said hey look what he said, then Kurt probably said, don't worry I'm gonna call him fake!  "Yeeea Thatta get'em on my side"

Anyways his horrible reason of me trying to get leads for free is garbage.  On my first trial with these crooks, I asked for a refund.  Dave said No, its too early, our contract states we will do another run, if you're not satisfied, We'll refund. I said I wasn't satisfied and this dude still wouldn't refund me

So on that being said.  I'm putting my RIP OFF PROOF PACKAGE TOGETHER, and Kurt whoever you are, You better get the TRUTH from DAVE because I'm about to Post the GARBAGE he sent me, The excuses he gave me for the scam artist , The excuse why my info got mixed up with a craigslist account you guys had, All the ridiculous crap. 

How you guys have PREMIUM LEADS for PRE-FORECLOSURE and HOW NONE OF THAT WAS SENT.  I will POST THAT PROOF. You sent garbage.  Kurt, I kept the files man. FAKE PEOPLE DONT HAVE PROOF KURT, whoever the hell you are.  Now you are correct, fake people and disgruntled clients "DO" post fake reports from being bitter but if you ask them for proof, they can't produce it because they're fake rite.  I'M POSTING ALL THE PROOF.

You're gonna be seriously embarrassed when I post the conversations with these so called "Premium Clients" that were downright horrible.  You guys know how to talk that salesman bs to try to save your reputation and call me a fake person with a fake review. 

WATCH THE PROOF I POST IN THE NEXT REBUTTAL MY FRIEND  WE'LL SEE WHO'S FAKE.  You might as well get the Proof from Dave because you came on here running your mouth.  So for all you consumers, this is what my next post is going to show.

1.  Real text messages and emails of the Bum Crap clients that they sent.  REAL OFFICIAL SCREEN SHOTS.

2.  Real text messages and emails of ME and DAVE MAISE of Red Triangle Media, My frustrations with him of why they keep sending me bum leads, You will see these are real messages from Dave Maise 561-859-2152.

But oh yea, I'm fake tho rite, this is a "Fake Report" rite ......  I will Post the email converstaion I had with one of his dumb staff people who sent me a message that was completely wrong, then later try to say, sorry it was a typo

Nothing is going to doctored! These are going to be real conversations dating back to May 2nd.  I couldnt go back further because I have sooo many messages with him , my phone stopped at that date.

3.  Copy of the Contract.  The money that I paid.  And their disclaimer of giving a refund.  This Idiot said I purchase things later just to file a fake report.  HOW STUPID IS THAT!!!  Who the hell buys a service on purpose just to go back and file a fake report.  I'm a real business person, with a REAL BUSINESS website for real estate flips, wholesaling and Funding.  When contacting clients by text and or email, I gave my site info upfront sometimes.  You'll see that in the REAL TEXT MESSAGES & EMAILS TOO.

4. Real Email messages to Dave about my FUNDING APPROVAL  CRITERIA and ALSO his pitch about giving me PREMIUM LEADS for PRE-FORECLOSURE.  You will SEE THAT THIS COMPANY IS A FULL CAN OF WET SH*T.

They are HORRIBLE at what they claim they do.  Now like DAve said to me,  Bad credit loans is a good business.  Maybe, Not for me.  I never paid for that.  How would you feel if you paid a company $2300 for PREMIUM REAL ESTATE LEADS and they send you some CLOWN with bad credit FROM CRAIGSLIST!!!!  Send you clients with disconnected numbers, bad credit, clients who don't respond, clients who are not EVEN LOOKING FOR FUNDING, And these supposed to be TARGETED PREMIUM LEADS!!! I will POST PROOF OF THAT ALSO!! When they said these are "TARGETED LEADS"!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm gonna POST THAT PROOF TOO.  

Consumer beware.  Give me a few days, I have alot to gather up correctly and when Im done, Im gonna love to see this clown KURT CALL ME FAKE.  

You Ripped me Off... AND I WILL EXPOSE YOU WITH PROOF.  You should've asked DAVE, Hey does this guy have any proof about the clients, Any text messages, emails, anything???  No, your dumbass gets on here and start calling me fake like that was gonna save your rep, Nah,  You guys SCAMMED the wrong dude. 

Because everything i post on here, goes to pissed consumer, It hits social media, it hits any social platform to WARN CONSUMERS TO STAY AWAY FROM YOU SCAMMERS!  The only thing Dave is gonna say is ohhh he threatened me like a little sissy. 

Anyone reading this. If you spent d**n near $3000 for real estate leads back in MARCH and by July all you recieved was ONE lead and the Rest was COMPLETE CRAP, wouldnt you be pissed off if you was told NO for a refund??? 

Wouldnt you wanna KO the scammer on the other line telling you NO.  Hell yea I would love to Mike Tyson Uppercut Dave into outerspace for not refunding my money.  Anyone who got scammed before knows how I feel. 

But since I can't do that.  I will expose this company for the next 40 years with no parole. If they change their name, Ill be rite there to warn consumers.  I will also post the complaint I did with the BBB and how they responded to me saying they can't even find an address for Red Triangle Media!!!!!  

You called me Fake was your WORST MISTAKE.

And any consumer who would like to background me and needs funding.  Hit my email up finalresultsllc@rocketmail.com and I will put you in DIRECT CONTACT WITH MY LICENSED LENDERS who lend Residential, Commercial,Business & Personal loans.  Now Mr Kurt, How does a Fake person do that.  You scamming scumbag clown. 

And also I will send you REAL BUSINESS CONTACTS / REFERENCES in the Real Estate and Funding field that will speak highly of me and will tell you HOW REAL I AM!  Nuff SAID

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THIS IS A REAL REPORT!!! The only FAKE ONE HERE IS RED TRIANGLE MEDIA

AUTHOR: Whistle Blower who is For Real - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 31, 2019

 Ok Mr. Dave Maise , I’m going to make this short and sweet, I know you wanna save your business and are very well trained at creating False narratives as a Salesman. But We both know I’m not Fake and your Company, Red Triangle Media SUCKS AND IS A COMPLETE RIP OFF. Everything I ever posted on this site has been 100% accurate. And i’ve only posted 1 other person. I said whistleblower because that’s what i was doing on your company. You know 100% that 99.99% of your leads were bad and was the opposite of my funding criteria that I sent to you by email. HOW am I fake when I posted Real dates! But ok I’m going to do it like this since you wanna play this bs role that this is a fake "Report” Anyone who wants to do BUSINESS WITH RED TRIANGLE MEDIA, And you think that This is a FAKE REPORT. Contact my EMAIL which is Finalresultsllc@rocketmail.com and I will show you 100% PROOF that They RIPPED ME OFF AND They did NOT PERFORM the task I paid for!! THIS COMPANY IS HORRIBLE! They Do Not live up to their Hype and sent me complete GARBAGE LEADS!!! I have soooo many clients that i kept for my records and I have the proof of my funding criteria and I will show my business website and the funders that I’m associated with. Now Dave, Does this sound fake to you . Man, You ALREADY KNOW IM REAL, STOP THE BS, You’re being exposed. And anyone who emails me , I will give you my DIRECT PHONE NUMBER, And I will PROVE THESE GUYS ARE RIP OFFS.. YOU’VE Been Warned. We can Rebuttal all Day DAVE. I got PROOF YOU GUYS ARE RIP OFFS!!! I don’t need to post my name, Anyone who contacts me will see who’s real. Consumers need to be warned for Scammers and I’m speaking up. So anyone who thinks i’m fake , HIT THAT EMAIL UP AND ILL SHOW YOU PROOF !!!! So go ahead use your "Saleman” reverse psychology speech about this is a fake report! lol, Anyone who hits me up will get proof?!! What you thought??? You thought i didn’t keep record of all those Bum leads you sent. EXPOSED! Yea tell your attorney to hit me up so i can send him the same crap you sent me # Red Triangle Media SCAM

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The Whistle Blower Report - Is a fake staged extortion review - Abusing The ripoff report system.

AUTHOR: Kurt - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 31, 2019

Unfortunately this is a false review, fake, staged and heavily omitted.  This individual has targeted us just as he has targeted many marketing companies and is a gross habitual abuser of fake reviews using sites with no vetting process.  He poses as a fake customer, purchases service waits until services are fully delivered then complains and finds every reason to cry refund.

Becoming irate, threatening staff members etc.  This is his cycle as he then uses his life and kids and hides behind them to justify his behavior through false guilt and hardship.   He then threatens to extort money back from the marketing companies saying that he did not get the service he paid for.  The reason he does this is he will not work leads he only wants free and easy conversions. 

So he like many other designed these extortion tactics to get free leads, pick the good ones, then cowardly victimizes himself to get money back then repeats this process to other companies.  Most times when an idividual starts a complaint with this is 100% truth most times its heavily fabricated.

  Notice he does not use a company name he only states complaints as a phantom individual. a  so called "Whistle Blower"   We like many companies he has done this to try to contact him to discuss his issues and he always refuses to speak to any of us.  Because he knows we know he is lying and simply doing this to get free services then cash back.

He converts leads, but then says they are all bad except the ones he converts...Go Figure. Anyone who knows anything about leads knows they all don't convert.   This is a far too common practice using Ripoff report to extort companies because he knows they don't vet their reviews.  Because of this the reviews and abuse on Ripoff report are out of control.  You can see here in a recent article https://www.searchenginejournal.com/ripoff-report-complaint-websites-google-rankings-drop/277311/#close   This is a common practice by internet scammers to get good services from good companies for free.  Fortunately the proper steps have been taken as this individual has done this to countless marketing companies using this abusive and extortion tactic. But companies are wise to his act as he must use un-vetted channels to stage his false complaints and make himself unreachable.    But like any business knows after while you always get those customers who are fake, abusive or both and nothing you can do can make them happy because you cant make everybody happy which is simply part of business.

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