4 Oceans LLC Waterman Products SCAM Campaign claiming to clean the oceans but only selling bracelets. Boca Raton Florida

There is no disclosure of where or who manufactures the bracelets, therefore it is impossible to confirm whether or not the materials are recycled or not.

I am unable to find any financial disclosures for the company, so it’s also impossible to confirm their claim that they clean 1lb of plastic per bracelet they sell. Do any of the local news outlets who have promoted the 4Ocean brand have access to this information, or are they just irresonsible journalists?

Are you counting the plastic picked up during cleanups paid for by the government, such as the $140,000 contract you recieved from the city of Boca Raton, as part of the 1lb/bracelet calculation? Because that would just be asking people to pay $20 after the fact for plastic you were already paid to clean up. How about the plastic collected from the bins you’re paid by the city to collect on South Beach Park and Silver Palm Park, is that counted toward the plastic collected supposedly being paid for by these bracelet sales?

Sidenote: The Mayor of Boca Raton who approved that deal ended up with a felony arrest for corrupt misuse of public office, failing to disclose income from business entities she helped as mayor.

A volunteer says they gave them water...did they feed you? 

Hi there, 

We monitor our info@4ocean.com email address and respond to almost all inquiries inside of 24 hours. If you can provide the email address you attempted to reach out to us on, we'll be happy to look into what happened. Over the past 30 days we have a 96% customer satisfaction rating on all interactions with our customer service team. We're always happy to help with any questions you may have.

For any questions or concerns about 4Ocean, we encourage all to view the numerous news reports that have been done about us, verifying the legitimacy of what we do, and the impact we're having on the world. As of May 2018, we've pulled over 600,000 lbs of trash from the oceans and coastlines in 26 countries around the world. This has been verified by the BBB, as well as these news organizations: https://4ocean.com/blogs/news/wusa-9-verified-news-report

For questions about where to apply, our Indeed page will provide our job postings: https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=4ocean&l=Boca+Raton%2C+FL

For those wishing to help out in our local community cleanups, they can view where we'll be on our Facebook events page: https://www.facebook.com/pg/4OceanBracelets/events/?ref=page_internal All of these events, and the amount of trash pulled have, and will be verified through the local chapter of the BBB as well. 

If you ever have questions or concerns, we're here 7am-6pm Monday-Friday at info@4ocean.com or on our numerous social media pages:

https://www.facebook.com/4OceanBracelets/?ref=bookmarks

https://www.instagram.com/4ocean/?hl=en

 I have been emailing a general email. More and more it seems like a Robot response Tried to contact this email, and it does not exist. There is no way to contact this company it seems unless you are ordering a braclet.

The email adress provided by "Christian" who responded to this report "does not exist" I have not yet managed to contact this company directly.

Secondly, Its a no-brainer; These bracelets are no less polluting than the plastic they were recycled from. IDIOCY or Scam?

I purchased a 4 Oceans bracelet to help the cause of cleaning up Oceans, a passion of mine. I have been following them and have volunteered. I have completed one clean up in Deerfield beach this past weekend. I missed one in Miami a few weeks ago but heard it went well. They supplied all the materials for the clean up, gloves, buckets, bags. We all got a Pink Bracelet (for Breast Cancer Awareness). We were also supplied with water. It was a wonderful day with people who wanted the same thing, to keep our oceans clean. Some of the people I met had participated in numerous clean ups, so they are not just a "Jewelry Company" as this person claims. There was also no money taken from any volunteer. They are a wonderful organization.

We truly appreciate your feedback as well as the posting on this forum. We are aware that there are others that have similar concerns. This provides us the opportunity to set the record straight and continue our efforts to enlist others to our Ocean Clean-Up Movement.

 Allow me to clarify on some of your concerns. If you require any additional information, you can contact me directly at christian@4Ocean.com

 To be clear, 4Ocean is a for profit organization that utilizes the funds raised by the purchases of our bracelets, which are made of recycled materials, to fund the ocean clean-up efforts.

 I looked up all email correspondences from you and was only able to find two email threads.

May 16th 2017 - We received an email regarding your order #446466, where you were looking for the status of your delivery. We responded with troubleshooting information which successfully allowed you to resolve the problem you were having. Your specific response was:

“Thank you for getting back to me!  Yes, it was delivered!!  They placed it in the box, rather than bring it to my door. So I do have it. Sorry for being so alarmed about this.

It's lovely and I've shown it to my neighbors... I'll be buying a few more!!

Thank you so very much!!”

June 15th 2017 - Email received with the Owners registration and your comments about Scamming.

To be clear, the information you looked up is freely available information about our company and ownership structure. 4ocean staffs over 30 Employees, 5 Captains and over 1000 Ambassadors/Volunteers.

In regards to emails related to the questions that you wanted answered, please forward them to me with the email you used to contact us because we have no record of them. I will investigate why they were not received.

June 16th Customer Service Call - We received your call and due the the importance of the call, we escalated it to our Co-Owner (Alex). On this call, it is my understanding that Alex provided additional information for you to review about 4Ocean.

July 7th Alex Follow Up Call - Alex followed up on a call and email providing additional pictures and links. Unfortunately this was not considered to be proof of what we are accomplishing for the Ocean. Alex also offered to have you come to our facilities, meet our staff and participate in a clean-up.

You declined this invitation.

In response to your specific questions:

If this is a for profit company, how do I apply for equipment operator?