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Report: #463677

Complaint Review: 4sota.com - San Bernardino, California

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  • 4sota.com 620 W. Mill Street, Suite A San Bernardino,, California U.S.A.

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I went to Security Officers Training Academy of San Bernardino Calif. on 5-7-09 and paid the $275.00 for my powers of arrest class for Guard card and filing fees. I was instructed that once successfully completing class my application would be filed electronically with the Dept. of Consumer Affairs Bureau of Security and Investigative Services. They instructed me that in 7-21 business days once DOJ background check was cleared my approval or denial would be posted for public viewing online and a printed copy is positive ID to begin working. I after 7 business days I checked everyday and no sign of my name so 5-28 I called up to BSIS and they told me they had record of my app or fees. I called the school only to be given excuses and the run a around by front office staff. I was disconnected and when I called back I got a message machine with Franks message on it. I left a message asking he or his office to please return my call. I waited 2 hrs and called back and I asked for the person in charge of filing my application, I was told Jan the office manager was the person I need to talk to but of course she is never available. I was instructed by Candice the receptionist that Jan was checking and I need to check back. I said when can I expect some news, she asked me to give her until Mon. so I did.

Mon. June 1 the school opened at 8 am I waited until 8 :50 and called to talk to Jan. She would not talk to me and I told Candice that I was tired of being given the run around by the staff and if I did not get the information I needed by the time we hang up I'm going down to the Colton Calif. BBB and talking to them. Well amazingly after about 10 mins Candice came back on with my information. I called BSIS and they told me there was nothing in the system and that if my app was just filed it would take a couple days to get entered into the system. Well I called another contact at a security school who has access to the state database and he verified that my application had just been submitted that morning.

I am very upset that I was lied to and taken advantage of by this school. I need work and could be working right now I have job offers. I could have afforded the fees to file a chapter 7 to save my home I just saw get auctioned publically due to no work. This school is engaging in deceptive and unfair business practices. I'm not sure how many other guards have been unjustly treated by this school but I'd bet my whole class had their money played with. When I called BSIS 6-1-09 I spoke with Dee and she informed me that it's not an uncommon practice for these school to wait until they get a large number of apps and then submit them. Not a nice way to treat your customers that are out of work in these hard times Frank and Jan!

David
Highland, California
U.S.A.

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AUTHOR: SOTA STAFF - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 02, 2010


First of all, the names Jan and Frank Feldman are the old owners of Security Officers Training Academy (SOTA). Which has now been under new ownership since June 1st 2009. The school is now run much more professionally, efficiently, and smoothly. We have not had any complaints. The complaint above, may have been a general issue or problem but by previous owners. Although it is true with any individual that has a felony misdemeanor, unpaid traffic tickets, or child support that the license (guard card) can take an extended amount of time. We strongly push this issue so we do not falsely lead people into believing they are not going to walk out with a state certification over night! We are a training facility, we submit your state fees to the Bureau of Security and Investigative Services, we have a contracted live scan rep finger print you. We provide the training and convenience of having it all done in one place. But, thats where the line is drawn. We can not rush the state of california employees to rush their decision nor can we rush the fbi and department of justice to rush your background results.

We provide quality training and have placed 94% of our graduates into the security field. We have highly trained instructors and efficient staff members who have worked here for years. We always are growing and expanding offering new courses and working with companies all over  southern california to place our graduates. We register everyone in a timely matter and do not practice any deceptive business here. It is in our best efforts to get everyone trained, and employed as soon as possible, as we know finding work is the main goal.

This incident that "David" speaks of may have been a one time incident with a previous owner, who does not work here any more. There has never been a issue like that in the 34 years we have been in business. Also, we do not appreciate names listed in the report above seeing as how he did not report correctly. Candice was only an employee instructed to say what she did by the then owners.

Onlinesecurityschool.com was never ran by frank feldman. It is operated by the current owners of SOTA and has not had complaints.

We hold an A rating with the BBB, and have been in buisness since 1976. We are certified by Department of Consumer Affairs, and BSIS. We hold licenses for firearms, baton, cpr/first aid and taser training. We are not a hoax, nor do we take peoples money and not complete the task at hand.



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FRANK FELDMAN'S NEW ONLINE SECURTY SCHOOL - "O.S.S." - www.4sotaonline.com IS HERE TO RIP YOU OFF!

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, August 08, 2009

I just thought the public should also know about Frank Feldman's new online way to take advantage of more guards that need work in these hard times! BEWARE OF O.S.S and FRANK FELDMAN!

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BEWARE Frank Feldman's other security school, http://www.onlinesecurityschool.com,http://www.tiborprotection.com

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 25, 2009

Frank is involved with these companies also so BEWARE! I'm NOT saying they screwed me, however if Frank and his staff are involved BE WARY! Frank still has not made any attempt to accept any accountability for their actions against me. Their only rebutal is that it was the background check that was taking my guard card so long since I checked yes to the question as to weather I was EVER convicted of a
misdemeanor or a felony. I have filed BBB and Consumer Affairs Deptartment Bureau of Security and Investgative Services complaints against this school. They refuse to be accountable for their actions. I say again SHAME ON YOU! Your academy prides itself on teaching "Ethic & Professional conduct of a Security Guard". Why may I ask are you and your staff above practicing what you teach? How is what you did to me in ANY way Ethical or Prefessional?

http://www.onlinesecurityschool.com

http://www.tiborprotection.com

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