Report: #694883

Complaint Review: Aaron Laird - Katonah New York

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  • Aaron Laird 18 Pinetree Dr. Katonah, New York United States of America

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I was recently asked by a friend to confirm the validity (or determine there was fraud involved) of an Internet advertisement offering the famous "Green Pass" (Must Fly) from Southwest Airlines. You may read the advertisement and the initial email response I received when I made an inquiry, VERBATIM, below. Since I could find nothing on Google relating to any Aaron Laird in the greater New York area, and since payment was requested via adding funds to a Green Dot Mastercard, I simply requested to know the name of the "hospital" or "medical group" to which Mr. Laird (the perp.) served as a gynecologist (this was his chosen occupation when I asked him what his profession was). To confirm that he really was Aaron Laird (and not simply sending out someone else's driver's license and passport), I merely asked him to also send a recent utility bill (which is much more difficult to obtain and/or falsify if this truly was a scam). Immediately after this request, things became belligerent and threatening, as he realized "the jig was up!" While I have made a report to the local law enforcement agency with jurisdiction in the New York area where the ID information was from, I am quite sure this "Aaron Laird" poser is nowhere near New York. In fact, I even spent a bit of extra money (again, to assure my friend that this was NOT a legitimate sale) to attempt to confirm the email address belonged to a Mr. Laird in the New York area. I was UNABLE to confirm this.

Again, below is the original advertisement, as well as "Mr. Laird's" initial email response to my inquiry:

Original Online Advertisement:

For sale: four (4) Southwest Airlines green passes good for four roundtrips. Greenpasses are fully transferable (no name appears on the ticket). They have no blackout dates. And if a greenpass holder wants to catch the next Southwest flight from say, California to Florida, they can call on short notice and do so. These are fully transferable passes. Fly anytime anywhere on their route system. There are no fees to change travel dates. These are NOT standby passes; you will have a guaranteed seat on the flight you want and can even request a boarding pass 24 hours before departure to ensure you are on the A-list (first to board). These are Green Must Ride Vouchers and NOT buddy passes. Once these passes are in your hands you can fly on the same day if you wish. If there are cash seats available, then you can use these passes to secure confirmed seats regardless of what the actual airfare for those seats may cost. Each pass can be used by two people traveling one-way or can be used by one person flying roundtrip. You can even fly into one city and return from another. Remember that Southwest is the only remaining larger airline that doesn't charge for your luggage, so consider that when comparing costs on another airline. You can use these vouchers to fly to distant (over 1000 miles away) destinations. To book a seat using a greenpass, Southwest Airlines can be reached at 1-800-4359792. Tell the agent you will be using a "Non-Revenue Must Ride Greenpass". The customer service agent will give you a reference number and you must have that number and the greenpass with you when you check in at the airport. All four passes are valid for travel until May 28, 2011. If you need one, my asking price is $185 for a roundtrip pass. If you take at least two (or all four), i can reduce this to $175 per roundtrip pass with free overnight shipping. To help you understand how a greenpass works, attached to this ad is a picture of one of the passes showing instructions. Payment is by either by check or, if you need the passes shipped asap, by express deposit into my mastercard account. Thanks.

Then here is the initial response by email to my inquiry:

I have a total of six roundtrip Southwest Airlines Green Passes available for sale.My wife works for Southwest and she gets a roundtrip Green Pass every month. They must be used for travel before they expire. These are the dates when they will expire:November 10, 2011 (4 pass)December 6, 2011 (2 passes)There are no additional fees to be paid to Southwest when using these tickets. These are fully transferable passes. Are you familiar with how Southwest Green Passes work? A Green Pass is a roundtrip unrestricted and totally flexible ticket. A picture of one of these passes is attached to this email with instructions on it to show you exactly how it works. Each Green Pass is valid for one roundtrip on any Southwest Airlines flight. If two persons are travelling then you can split a roundtrip Green Pass into two one-way passes, so you basically get two one-way seats.HOW TO USE A SOUTHWEST AIRLINES GREEN PASS :To book a seat using a Green Pass, all you need to do is call Southwest Airlines (1-800-4359792) and tell the agent you will be using a "Non Revenue Must Ride Green Pass". (you can even do this now while reading this email)The customer service agent will ask for the passenger's names and travel dates. At the end of the call, you will be given a confirmation or reference number and you must have that number, your ID and the green pass with you when you check in at the airport. Again, attached to this email is a picture of one of the Green Passes explaining how to use them. When you call Southwest, please advise the Southwest agent that you will be using NRMR GREEN PASSES (the NON-REVENUE MUST-RIDE type of pass).These passes have no restrictions and no fees are to be paid to the airline. It's $200 if you need just one Green Pass. If you take at least two, I can reduce this to $180 for each Green Pass (and I can reduce this further to a final $170 if you take at least five or all six). Fedex overnight shipping is included. You don't have to pay me extra money for overnight shipping. It's included in the ticket price.Again, anyone can use the passes. They are fully transferable and there are no blackout dates, no standby, no wait-list, which means you can fly anytime.If you look at the picture attached to this email, you will see that the part where it says "passenger name" is blank (leave this blank please, Southwest's airport staff will fill out the ticket when you check in at the airport). The picture also shows that the itinerary is "open" which means you can use these Green Passes to fly to any airport served by Southwest Airlines.Payment is either by check or, if you need the Green Passes shipped out to you asap, by greendot deposit into my mastercard account which can be done easily at most retail locations. I can also meet up on any Friday if you know anybody here in the Katonah or Bedford (NY) area. If none of these options suit you, you can buy your tickets elsewhere. I am not interested in going through hassles.Payment details will follow in my next email. I am not interested in transacting with difficult people and will ignore emails that appear to come from difficult buyers.Thanks.Aaron-- (((REDACTED)))
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#3 Consumer Comment

He Ripped me off!

AUTHOR: D - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, February 28, 2011

He ripped me off for $900.00.. He claimed he had 202,000 miles with Singapore Airlines. He advertised that he was selling them at $8.00 per 1,000 miles including taxes and fees. Being a virgin to Internet/Online scams he seemed to be legit.. Cutting to the chase, I called the airline to confirm that my reservations were made... They replied, Sorry sir, we do not have you in our system..

I email the guy last night:

I called the airline to confirm my reservations and they said nothing was in their system..

he writes back: (First Email)

Ummm, maybe because, maybe because... ummm...

maybe because....

Eeeeek! I'm a bad boy! Bad bad boy!!
First i went to this website:


And then I bought a portable usb 3G modem. Portable usb modems makes it difficult to triangulate user position, so i can send emails from my laptop while cruising from one street block to another. And then i had the modem sent to an untraceable mailbox address here in new york which i got off the internet. And then i went here:

And then i downloaded anonymizer software to anonymize email and browser trace routes. And then i download hacker software so i can send the emails to you with reconfigured trace protocols so that the emails cannot be traced. And then i interlink Tor, Privoxy and TorCP on my laptop to Onion Routers so that when you or anyone check where my emails are coming from, the trace protocols will show a fake location and that i am in russia or thailand or argentina or kenya or alaska or africa or peru or japan or new york or berlin or indonesia or wherever!! The emails all get lost in the anonymous operating system which destroys the trace by multiplexing the channels!!!

Yummy! Try it, check my email IP origin and you will be like WHAT THE HECK WHY IS IT SAYING CANADA NOW, THEN AFRICA, THEN JAPAN, THEN PERU, THEN FLORIDA, THEN KENTUCKY, THEN MALAYSIA. It's not good, it's not good coz I now got the fat 900 bucks from those sweet greendot moneypackies.
Eeeek! My fat sneaky hands grabbed the yummy $900 using a fake ID in the name of Aaron Laird. Fake fake ID, easy to make, like the one attached to this email.
And then i went to this website

and then i bought a prepaid disposable ATM card that can be loaded with this moneypacky thing and then i just throw the card away after withdrawing all 900 bucks to avoid being traced. Eeeek! I got my fat sneaky hands on that disposable ATM card using a fake name, fake date of birth, fake ssn , fake details, fake address, fake everything.. anyone can get 'em bad cardy cards for few bucks on forums like http://www.talkgold.com/forum/f18-.html

Its one of those disposable prepaid ATM cards that can be used without providing social security number, then i activated it with a fake ID and fake name, fake date of birth, fake address, fake everything. And they cost just few bucks and can be loaded with delicious moolah using western union or greendotty moneypackers.
So now even if you complain to the store where you sent the fat yummy cash by moneypak or to the cops or to whoever, the fat yummy cash you sent was already collected from an ATM by bad a*s "aaron" (if there even was a "aaron" coz the fake ATM account was activated with fake name, fake address, fake date of birth)
Aaaaak! i now got the sweet 900 dollahs sweet cash on my fat sweaty hands and i will go check out them hot adidas shoes at the mall tomorow.
Eeeek! And then i used photoshop software to make fake pictures of passport and driver licence and changed the names, ID numbers and rest of details on them to show fake name, fake details, fake everything.
Eeeek! And then i opened a new Singapore Airlines miles account and made a screenshot of it with zero miles balance and used photoshop to edit the balance so that it shows lotsa lots of miles.

Aaaaak!! And then to make the whole airline ticket offer seem realistic enough I got a fake phone number on the internet on this website:
so the call cannot be traced because its a bad a*s internet phoneline and the call is routed via the internet, then routed to my laptop via a hacker software system that spoofs the number so it cannot be traced. They also offer instant Seattle numbers and voicemail on www.k7.net for free.
Anyway i have to go and meet up with my girl and gangsta boyz. She is so so so impatient and wants to whip my a*s everytime i'm late.
No need to respond coz i'm gonna abandon this email address and open a new one under a new different fakey fake identity for fresh new york Yankees or dallas cowboys scam with a delicious cashiers check or fake western union scam! eeek!
eeeeek... love the fakey fake ID attached to this email which photoshop should be awarded a medal for!!!

Second email 10 minutes later: 

Ok thanks for the sweet cash 900 bucks. Cool, my bad. Anywayz now i'm
not "aaron" anymore coz it was fake name anyway. Just finished
doctoring a new i.d with fake data, fake i.d. number, fake everything.
I'm "Dr. Paul Fenyves" now. Just made a new fake i.d for fresh new
scam (attached to this email for you to inspect how perfect it looks).
Maybe i can use this for new scam selling fake redsox or new york
yankees tickets. Found a new way to rob some fat cash by asking the
buyer to put the cash in between pages of a newspaper and send me the
newspaper by fedex overnight to some random address and i simply go to
that address on delivery day and meet up with the delivery guy and
give him a fat tip of $5 and a realistic-sounding drama excuse about
how i need the package and that my "office" is closed today so i had
to wait outside for the delivery and i just show him the fake i.d.
Time to get a new phone number on www.virtualphoneline.com or www.k7.net


Please becareful people.. These people are pros... Remember, if it is to good to be true, it probabley is.. Stick with your local travel agent...

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Sends a Passport/Driver's License But Not a Utility Bill?!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, February 25, 2011

The reason this appears to be a fraud on the part of Mr. Laird is that his initial response to the customer who sent in an email expressing interest in his advertisement actually, AND WITHOUT A REQUEST BY THE POTENTIAL CUSTOMER, contained Mr. Laird's passport and driver's license, anticipating that a potential customer may be thinking "scam" here. Of course, the real person behind this scam is NOT Aaron Laird, but someone who merely stole or otherwise improperly obtained the real Mr. Laird's ID documents. How could someone feel comfortable sending out - without even a request - a PASSPORT and DRIVER'S LICENSE, but then balk at a copy of a recent utility bill (where account number could be redacted).

Common sense would indicate that the utility bill would contain no additional "confidential information" that the passport and driver's license (such as physical address, etc.) did not contain and had already been revealed to the potential customer, again without the customer even making such a request. Of course the difference is, there is no way this scammer could quickly obtain a utility bill in the name of the person whom he was impersonating with the illegal dissemination of ID documents that were not truly his. BEWARE HERE!

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AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 24, 2011

What does him not sending you confidential information, "making you sound like a scam artist" have anything to with him being a rip off?

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