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Complaint Review: Abacus Limited - Internet

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  • Reported By: Millie — Moreno Valley California
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Abacus Limited Abacus Computers Mr Yong Ming Ming Mrs Tasha Smith Fidelity Worldwide InvestmentFIL Limited Work At Home Job Scam Internet

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I was contacted by txt & was interviewed via Yahoo Messanger.. following is my conversation with Mr Ming.. once I called to verify that the check he sent me was BOGUS I decided to play stupd & see if he would reissue the check since he stated in our converstation it was NOT a Scam... needless to say he ended the conversation & got off line

It may seem like I provided a lot of personal info however I did NOT provide anything that they would not get from my resume which they supposedly have

 

Started on 12/9/14

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello

Me: Hello Mr Ming

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Good Morning

Me: Good Morning, How are you?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Fine and thanks for asking

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I believe you are here for the job briefing and interview ?

Me: Yes

Mr Yong Ming Ming: What's your interview verification code ?

Me: HR325410

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I believe you are here for the job interview and briefings where you will get to know all about the job position as well as the company information and history ?

Me: Yes

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I am Mr Yong Ming, 50 years old and i am the Hiring Manager of Abacus Limited, . I  would be the one to brief you about the position and the company.

Me: Nice to meet you

Mr Yong Ming Ming: What are your full name, sex, age ,cell #and location ??

Me: *******. I go by *****... female, 43, cell ******, location Moreno Valley, CA

Mr Yong Ming Ming: To know more about the company please visit

http://www.abacus-ltd.com/  .You have 5 minutes to go through the company's website. Let me know once done so we can proceed further.

Me: OK.. think I've got it. looks like your company is based overseas, what kind of position are you looking to fill? I do accounting work mostly A/P & A/R

Mr Yong Ming Ming: The positions available are: Accounting Manager, Accounting Payroll Clerk, Administrative Assistant, Book keeping,Clerical Admin, Credit Correspondent, Customer Service,Data Entry,administrators, Executive Assistant, Finance and Accounting, Medical Biller/Coding,Receptionist and Front desk... Which are you applying for ?

Me: your a computer company that does medical billing??

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Yes

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Next would be the briefing about the Job and the company. I advise you read with care.

 Just follow the briefing and you can ask questions when i am through. Let me know when you have finished reading and understanding every line. You will be allowed to ask questions later. With each line just respond with an Okay.

Me: okay

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: This is strictly an online and work from home job where everything is been done online remotely. You can work in the office if you want once we are through with setting up our new branch (Company) at your location and you can as-well work from anywhere of your choice or anytime you want/any time that does suit you.The working hours are flexible.

 The pay rate is $18 per hour training is $22 per hour and you will get payment weekly via direct deposit or pay check.Working Part Time is 20 hours and Full Time is 40 hours weekly.You will be paid either by Direct Deposit or Pay Check... Is that okay by you ?`

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Our company is basically looking for 16 team workers/employees who will work online at the moment until the building is been established and launched by the Overall Adani Group world wide and by the President and other government officials after which the document of incorporation will be filled and then signed by the Overall Manager of the company before it commences it's activities in office.

 The Supervisor,who would be attached to you online,He/She will assign you logs of duty daily and you will  be required to work according to instructions,using the Microsoft Office tools and the Accounting software.Now the function of the Accounting software is to arrange,formalize and manage the data you have processed,and get sent to your supervisor via E-mai

Mr Yong Ming Ming: after which you contact him(through his/her cell phone) to let Him or Her know you are done with your duties which was assigned to you. Is that okay by you ?

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: We are going mainly into the interview now and I advise you should read any question I ask you.After due examination,you are required to send back your answer back to me over here.Be quick with your answers and also ask questions if necessary.

 Your quick and timely response matters a lot in this beneficial position....Okay ?

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: DUTIES & RESPONSIBILITY:Tracks data and source documents.Prepares and sorts source documents, and identifies and interprets data to be entered.Compiles, sorts and verifies data for accuracy.Contacts responsible parties or clients from other organisation to resolve moderately complex questions, inconsistencies, or missing data. Also perform Records keeping, keyboarding/data entry and performing a variety of other office tasks account balancing, invoicing recording,proper data analysis of sales records and recording pay slips into accounting database all these will be done through the use of the accounting Software, such as faxing or emailing confidently and positive attitude online from home.

 Can you handle these duties effectively ??

Me: yes

Mr Yong Ming Ming: The supervisor, who would be attached to you online, he/she would assign logs of duty daily and you would be required to work according to instructions, using the microsoft office tools and the accounting software. Now the function of the accounting software is to arrange, formalize and manage the data you have processed, sent to your supervisor via E-mail.

 You will undergo a one week training from your training supervisor,he will training you on how to work with the programs accurate and other data entry works you will need to get done.Your training is going to be done online through your pc and phone

Me: Okay.. my computer is old & won't be able to handle too much data, it crashed a couple years ago so i'm concerned it won't be able to handle the workload

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright..There is no problem with that

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

You'll earn $25 hourly , you will receive your pay via direct deposit or pay check weekly or Bi-weekly

Me: that's great i'm just hoping it will survive long enough for me to be able to replace it

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

I am going to ask you few questions now, Are you ready ?

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: (1) What type of jobs have you had?

(2) How did you get your previous jobs?

(3) What were your main responsibilities? Achievements?

(4) Are you currently employed?

(5) Are you willing to work flexible or long hours?

(6 ) When would you be available to start?

(7) Are you seeking employment in a company of a certain size?

Why?(How long do you intend working for this company ?

(8) How would you like to be Paid ? Weekly Or Bi-Weekly/Direct deposit

or Wire Transfer ?

(9) What Bank Do you Operate with to see if it tallies with the company's official salary payment account ?

Me: 1 - A/P, A/R. G/L entrys, Bank Reconciliations, Medical Billing, Prepare & Recieve Purchase Orders, office supply ordering & tracking

Me: 2 - found on monster or career builders

Me: 3 - full A/P & A/R, credit card processing

Me: 4 - no

Me: 5 - yes

Me: 6 - any time

Me: 7 - no

Me: I look for long term perminate positions

Me: 8 - as i'm not sure about this type of position (work from home) & only meeting through online chat I am leary due to all the identity theft. I would want to be paid by check at this time.. as i become more comfortable with this I might change to direct deposit

Me: 9 - Wells Fargo Bank

Mr Yong Ming Ming: You will undergo a one week paid training and the company will provide you with materials to setup a mini office in your house and your W2 form will be coming along with the working materials you need to start working with.

 You will Earn $25 per hour,You will receive your pay via Direct deposit or Paycheck weekly.Training $20 per hour

 I need you to hold on online because i need to forward our conversation to the Head Dept to enable them see if you are committed and good for this job.I need you to hold back online

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I'm back, congratulations the company has decided to give you a chance for you to work for the company and will like to see your diligence,Charisma,Committement to this job

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

Me: thank you

Mr Yong Ming Ming: You will be paid Bi weekly !

 What mean of payment would you prefer?Direct deposit or paycheck

Me: for now I'd like paycheck

Mr Yong Ming Ming: In the mean time i need you put these following requested info on here

Name :

Address : (PO Box not valid)

City :

State :

Zipcode:

Cell # :

E-mail:

so that my secretary can put you on register

Me: *********

Me: **********

Me: Moreno Valley

Me: CA

Me: 92555

Me: ******

Me: *******@****.com

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Do that now Okay

Me: done

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I will be back in an hour ..I need to attend a boards meeting now ..Okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I will be in touch

Me: talk to you soon

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Here are the name's of the software's you will need to start working with-  BS 1 Accounting software  ,myob business essentials software 2005,For Peach Tree premium 2010 US Patent Single Users Pack, simply accounting 2009,Adobe Photoshop 52011,Adobe Acrobat 8 2012,Ariba 8 2012ASP 32007,CSS 6 2012,Dreamweaver 7 2011,HTML 11 2011,Illustrator 3 2009,Microsoft Access 8 2011,Microsoft Excel 8 2011,Microsoft Word 11 2011,MySQL 5 2011,PHP 5 2011,UNIX 2 2005,Windows 7 1 2011,Windows XP 8 2011,XML 5 2007,Vendor Management  7 2012.

 Are you familiar with any of the sowftwares ?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Before you start work you will receive a payment ,you will be using this payment to Purchase the accounting software's plus the shipping logistics, because we will be sending  you  some equipment you will be needing to start work with, immediately you get this payment you start work.

 You will get started with work ASAP,The company will provide you a free Hp laptop with a fast internet connection and your W4 form will be coming along with the working materials you need to start working with,you are to purchase all your materials from a certified vendor we have been patronizing for years now Okay ?

Me: okay

Me: can i ask which position i will be fullfilling?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: The accounting position

Mr Yong Ming Ming: You will receive a paycheck for the purchase of the working materials,the company's accounting dept will issue the check and have it sent to your house via FedEx Or USPS ,they will have it sent to the address you have just provided so i suppose the name you provided is same on your bank info....?

Me: don't take this the wrong way.. as you know i stated earlier that I am leary about a work from home position.. with that being said & the fact that you will be mailing me a check it does concern me that you keep asking about my bank info

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I just asked for a confirmation

Me: yes but i don't understand why it matters what name is on my bank account

Mr Yong Ming Ming: It matters because we need to write your name on the company check and have it mailed to you so it can tally with the name attached to your account

Me: my legal name is ********... a check does not have to match the name on my bank account exactly for me to cash a check... if & when I decide to have direct deposit then i'll verify the name on the account.. I appologize as with the economy there is a lot of identity theft & bank accounts having fraud against them here

Mr Yong Ming Ming: The company will issue you a Check to enable you purchase all the EQUIPMENTS you need to start work with.

 NOTE: All software's are to be purchased from the software office the company has been buying from for years now.

 You will be notified with which of the software's office you are to purchase the software's from as soon as the check  get to you.

 Once You have received the check you are required to have it deposited into your bank account and funds will be made available into your bank account in the next 24hours or less understood?

Me: yes

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I believe the company can ensure your commitment and trust right?

Me: as long as you are a legit company you have my commitment & trust

Me: sorry.. there are more fraudualant work from home companies than there are real legitamite companies

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Okay this is not a scam

Me: then you have my commitment & trust

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Can you briefly explain to me what you will be using the Company Check for?

Me: purchase of whatever software i am told to purchase from the company provided

Me: #1 is to get setup to be able to start working ASAP

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Do you have any question for now ?

Me: when should i expect to receive the startup materials & check??

Mr Yong Ming Ming: This week

Me: will i receive tracking info?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Yes sure

Me: okay.. i'll keep watch for tracking & the delivery

Me: thank you

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright,You are advised to be here online tomorrow Morning by 8 am EST for updates about the  check and how to get started with work and training okay.

 Bye for now and remain blessed

Me: OK.. think that is 3 hours ahead of me.. i'm PST

Me: confirmed.. that is 5 AM for me

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Okay cool

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Bye,!

Me: bye

Me: Good morning

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Morning

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How are you doing today ?

Me: would of been better if I didn't get up at 4:30 for nothing.. you told me to be on at 8 EST.. which i told you was 5 AM my time... it's now 8:26 my time

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Sorry **** i was not currently available I just lost someone very close to me

Me: I am sorry to hear that

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Thanks for caring Mildred Karlinger

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I am now back on desk now

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How was your night rest ?

Me: not bad

Me: guessing yours wasn't so good

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Yes correct

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How are you doing today ?

Me: good & you

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Fine and thanks for asking

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How are family and friends doing ?

Me: good, thanks for asking

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I believe you are set and ready for today's task and update ?

Me: yes

Mr Yong Ming Ming: The check to use to purchase your working materials will be issued  out to you today and you will receive it by tomorrow morning, i  will be here to provide you with the tracking number so you can keep track and know when it will get to you okay

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Should i email your first task to you now ?

Me: sure

Mr Yong Ming Ming: What email should i email it to ?

Me: **********@*******.com

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright hold while i do that now

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Your task has been sent to your email now

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Let me know once received

Me: okay.. got it

Mr Yong Ming Ming: That will be all for today,you are to report online tomorrow 8am your time for more update and for the tracking number to the package that you will be receiving tomorrow...have a wonderful day.

Me: Thank you.. look forward to speaking with you at 8 AM (PST).. i'll respond to the email today

Me: have a good day

Mr Yong Ming Ming: You too

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Good Morning

Me: Good morning

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How are you doing today ?

Me: good. how are you?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Fine and thanks for asking

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How was your night rest ?

Me: good & you?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Same

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How are family and friends doing ?

Me: good.. couple friends have the flu but otherwise good

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I believe you are set and ready for today's task and update ?

Me: yes

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Your task was forward to the company Hr Dpt and it was great ****** Keep it up

Me: thank you

Mr Yong Ming Ming: You are welcome

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I have the tracking number for your check that was mailed out to you now.

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Here is the tracking number to the package that was mailed out to you ( 9470101699320011788767 ) you are required to track it on https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction? to know the delivery status.Track it and let me know the status of the package ok

Me: it shows that they received the notice of the shipper however they have NOT received the package as of yet

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright..I will like you to look out for it and notify me once you receive the package via usps for instructions ok.

Me: ok

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Good Morning

Me: Good morning

Me: How are you & yours??

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Ì'm good

Me: just popped in to track the check... looks like it's at the postal facility about 30 miles from me

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Went well and thanks for asking

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Okau

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Okay*

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Notify me once you have the check with you for further instructions

Me: ok

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello ******* any update yet on the package ?

Me: no

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright..I will be here waiting to hear from you ..

Me: ok

Me: Hello

Me: I received the check today.. it's too late to go to the bank so i'll go on Monday

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Good Morning

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Let me know once getting my messages Okay?

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello Mildred are i believe you are getting my messges ?

Me: sorry... this is her husband

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Good Morning

Me: good morning to you.. i'll have her contact you soon

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Let me know once she's back

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello

Me: Good morning

Me: I apologize as i was having to deal with some bank transactions i did not authorize this morning

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Morning

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How are you doing today *****?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright no problem

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I believe all has been done now ?

Me: my personal stuff yes... I'll be going to the bank shortly to deposit the check you sent me

Me: once it has cleared your bank i'll be ready to order the product

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Note: You will be depositing the check through your bank ATM which is an accounting task. this is just to test your ability in the accounting field as part of your training.

Me: sorry.. my abilities in the use of an ATM has nothing to do with my accounting abilities

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Me: if the ATM is a pre-requisit to the position I'll have to return the check uncashed

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Once deposited and the funds are available for use you are needed to make a withdrawal of the funds Okay ?

Me: once the check has cleared YOUR bank i'll be happy to withdrawl the funds

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Okay notify me once deposited

Me: ok

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How many mins will it take ?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: you

Me: i'll go to the bank within an hour

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Alright

Me: will you be sending me a computer or will i be buying one?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: A new HP laptop will be coming along with your working materials .Okay?

Me: okay

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Talk to you soon

Me: ok

Hide Recent Messages (F3)

 Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello *****

Mr Yong Ming Ming: What's the update now ?

Last message received on 12/15 at 10:43 AM

Me: I called RBFCU to verify the check before depositing & am told that it is an INVALID CHECK

Mr Yong Ming Ming: What !!

Me: yeah.. any idea's what happened?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: That cheque sent to you is as real as money ..

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I will the accounting manager now ..and see whats going on

Me: ok... thank you

Mr Yong Ming Ming: You are welcome

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello..I am back

Me: hello

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Our accounting manager just got sued

Me: that's not good.. what's that mean

Mr Yong Ming Ming: He got sued for issuing out a bogus cheque to our applicants ..I believe that serves him right ..

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Don't you think ?

Me: yes it does.. hope he gets jail time as well

Mr Yong Ming Ming is typing...

Mr Yong Ming Ming: If you insist ..Now The vendor wants to comfirm something regarding the shipment

Me: ok

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Do you have the Automated Time Tracker?

Me: no

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

FUNCTION OF TIME TRACKER: The Automated Time Tracker will enable us to track the number of hours you spend daily

 Ok, You will need to obtain that to enable us track your working hours

Me: yes I know what it is.. i do not have one & have never used one

Me: where would i get one?

Mr Yong Ming Ming:

You will need to obtain it from the vendor so the vendor can also preload it in the laptop  and it will be coming along with the company's suit and everything will be good to go .

The cost is $400.99

Mr Yong Ming Ming: NOTE: You will be reimbursed for this purchase along with your first pay in double.

Me: I will NOT put any money out of pocket.. I am currently unemployed if i don't start with you & have NO income

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I know that Mr Mildred ..That is why its stated above that you will be reimburesed for tis purchase along with your first paycheck

Me: I don't have the funds to put out.. I am broke

Me: why don't you pre pay & pre load the software needed rather than sending a check for me to purchase the software?

Me: that would eliminate the problem like you have with your accounting manager issuing bogus checks

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Five good reasons why you are needed to make order for the software programs.

1.The company does not have the software programs because we does not specialize of accounting software's.

2.This is to show how committed you are to work for the company.

3.The software vendor is the vendor all our employee has been buying software's from for years now.and you will make the order from her to enable her install the needed above software programs with disc and have it shipped overnight to you via FedEx.

 4.Due to the rate of unemployment these days,The company is hiring 16 teams to work for the company with 4 software programs and to enable them deal with clients in the healthcare sectors,insurance sector,banks and business organizations e.t.c

Mr Yong Ming Ming: 5.Your training supervisor need you to get these programs ready to enable you work accurate with him or her.

Mr Yong Ming Ming has signed out. (12/15/2014 1:34 PM)

Last message received on 12/15 at 1:27 PM

Me: so what's going to happen with the bogus check? are you reissueing me a valid check? once i have one then i can get the funds to purchase the required software

12/17/14 1:44 PM

Good afternoon Mr Ming

Mr Yong Ming Ming: Hello

Me: any update on getting the bad check replaced?

Mr Yong Ming Ming: How are you doing today

Mr Yong Ming Ming: I dont think

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