Complaint Review: Air Tran - AirTran Airlines - Nationwide
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Air Tran/AirTran Airlines Discrimination against White Customers. Ripoff! Atlanta, Georgia; Nationwide
*Consumer Suggestion: Time out for a second.
*Consumer Comment: Interesting Outlook
*Consumer Comment: What you experienced isn't so much related to AirTran as it is Atlanta. It's an Atlanta thing..
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While on a return flight to Houston from Pittsburg on a bereavement flight in mid January, 2005, we were stranded in the Atlanta, GA airport due to ice storms. We were flying Air Tran Airlines.
As we left the plane upon arrival, we were told by their Gate Attendant all flights were cancelled until at least the next morning and we would be there overnight. She told us all to line up at Customer Service Desk to get new flight arrangements and Meal and Hotel Vouchers. We waited in line, got our new flights (which ended up being cancelled several times). We were then told that NO meal vouchers or hotel vouchers would be issued. They "don't do that".
As we walked off, we heard the man behind us in line get his meal vouchers ($15). He was African American and we are white. I stood by and observed all the white passengers be denied meal vouchers and 5 other African American passengers receive vouchers. So...I stood BACK in line and when my turn came, asked the African American clerk (they all were of this race), why we didn't get vouchers. He said again, that NO ONE gets them, Air Tran doesn't issue them. I told him I had witnessed 6 people behind me get them (and I don't know how many BEFORE us), and therefore I wanted vouchers. He refused.
So, I went to another desk and asked for a supervisor. Finally got one of those and presented my case. He stated they "don't do that". I said, "Yes, you do, but obviously for certain people". He got aggravated and rude. Finally agreed to give me a hotel voucher. I called the 800 # on it and they stated it was only for discounted rooms, and that they were all full unless we could get to a hotel 20 mins away. Well, no taxis were running due to road closures, and I didn't feel like walking in the snow and ice. (We ended up sleeping in Delta's area where they gave us all pillows and blankets and we weren't even flying with them!).
I called the toll-free # for AirTran to try and get food vouchers, and the rep there said, Yes, they were supposed to give us vouchers for meals. Went BACK to desk again, stood in line, told them what the Rep said and again, they denied me. I went in the smoking rooms and heard other passengers say the same thing.
We even had an Air Tran captain/pilot state a few things that were so much against AirTran that I'm surprised he's still working for them. I can't repeat them here as they might upset some people. But his advice was to NEVER fly them again. Flight attendants also voiced unhappiness with how they are treated.
When we FINALLY got home 1 1/2 days later, I called and emailed Air Tran's office and explained what happened. I couldn't get through on the phone but return emails stated they do NOT discriminate and basically implied I was lying. I emailed back that I would contact an attorney for discrimination and was answered with "Good luck...have your attorney contact our attorney".
So, we are waiting to see what will happen and if they will start treating passengers better. We will also pursue legal action for discrimination although I'm not quite sure how I will be able to prove it. Would it be my word against theirs? I wasn't able to track down any of the passengers who received meal vouchers as the airport was packed with stranded passengers.
In a nutshell...if you want cheap fares, be prepared to be treated cheaply. And a good suggestion would be to carry a video camera or tape recorder with you if you have to consult with any Air Tran employees so you will have proof if you need it.
We won't EVER fly with them again.
Kathy
Houston, Texas
U.S.A.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion
Time out for a second.
AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 01, 2007
Kathy,
Look at what caused your delay in the first place ICE STORMS.
AirTran (and any other airlne) "Doesn't do that" for WEATHER issues or air traffice control. However they DO do that for other issues such as a mechanical issue with the aircraft. You don't know these other people's situation. Also, you didn't apparently know at first the hotel voucher you got was for a discounted room instead of a free one - is that what the other passengers got as well? How do you know the that other "white" passengers were staying the night?
Bottom line is that your statment about "AirTran doesn't issue them" is simply not true. I am very certain that someone along the way told you it's not done due to weather issues.

#2 Consumer Comment
Interesting Outlook
AUTHOR: S - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 27, 2005
I find this particular letter interesting enough to write back. First off I am an airline employee. The first thing that most travelers do not understand is that ALL airlines not just ATA have certain rules that protect them and well as their passengers. One of those rules deals with inclimate weather.
As a CUSTOMER SERVICE action an airline will issue meal and hotel vouchers, but they ar enot oblligated to. During certain times of the year especailly in certain parts of the country such as the east coast you can almost never fly out due to weather.
There would be no way to provide service for those of you that live on that side of the country if they HAD to pay for every weather incident. I'm not saying its right, but they are thinking about their wallets as most companies do and must to survive.
It is called and act of God, they do not have a direct line to heaven to find out if they should operate, nor does the passenger, I'm sure neither would fly if they knew the weather was going to be so harsh. The company would have to spend a few thousand dollars per flight to put up very unhappy, nasty and sometimes down out right rude people for the night.
And passengers did not make it where they wanted to go. The people in the middle are the agents. (Am I defending what they did, no.) After having to deal with the technical side of a canceled flight we have to try to explain why we can not send them tonight. After doing this for over 1000 in one day it does tire one out. The simple fact of the matter, people do not understand there are different reasons why things are done and why things are not done.
If it is a mechanical issue which the airline has control over, then yes they are obligated to give HMTs (Hotel, Meal,Transportation vouchers) to passengers. If it is weather realted the best they can do in some cases is to offer a dicounted rate called the Distressed Passenger Rate that the passengers pay out of pocket. You can obtain a copy of these rules from the airline or DOT. Again it is a customer service call.
You also have to look at a few other things before you go screaming discrimination, and reporting things on a site like this can lead to slander and what not, so this piece of information is valuable to you. First of all there are HOT SPOTS. Places where people fly for specific reasons.
I worked in Palm Springs. We have famous people, rich people, and every day joes like me and specail groups that we see every day. Sad to say each is treated differently. If it is a group such as a company sending staff for a major meeting or what not that does a lot of traveling with ATA (which is the companies bread and butter, not the occassional vacation traveler) they will take care of those people differently.
Sad to say if you fly a few times a year, they will not miss the $1000 you spend, but they will miss the $10-20,000 a company will pay a year to send their employees to meeting and what not. Palm Springs was very much like this. I was told to do what I had to make certain groups happy, while I had to tell the family I could not help them.
That is one of the reasons being an agent is bitter sweet. I did have the freedom to wiggle a bit, but in the end, it all comes down to my keeping a job, so I had to do what the Corp wanted.
The first thing you should do is contacted the Cust Serv and tell them what flight what time and about how many people received vouchers. Vouchers are accountable documents and can be tracked. Then you left the Corp office investigate.
This saves you the money you would pay to a lawyer. In worse case it may be the employee that is in the wrong and not the company, so to slander a company makes YOU the bad guy. They may even see fit to offer you some sort of goody.
While it will not be a million dollar lawsuit settlement a free trip for 4 to see grandma is great sometmes too. They will fire the employee. But be very careful, as the pilot and the flight attenddants you mentioned in this article as being upset with ATA and saying unrepeatable things may end up fired of worse because you mentioned them, and yes they can find out who there are, they do it all the time.
There are only so many planes for ATA ont he ground at a time so its not hard to figure out who they are. If you seriously feel you have been mistreated, go to DOT (Department of Transportation) not a lawyer, as they may do more than your lawyer can, as you said you ahve to prove it.
The funny thing is you can't, but the company can. Those accountable documents I spoke about will tell n themselves, so again save your money, opt for a few free tickets may be and no matter what air line you fly you will ahve issues if the weather is bad.
Delta may be great, but I have also seen the very same thing happen to their passengers. Needless to say when you have an issue that involves something out of the hands of a company try being a bit nicer to the persont hat has to give you the bad news.
We did not purposely make it rain or snow or cause a fire just so that you could not go home. Its no fun being called names (yes racial names too) by a passenger that is upset because they can not have their way. In fact that is the quickest way to be refused help, and yes we have the right to refuse to help a confrontational passenger.
With that said I have this last piece to say. When you point a finger there are 3 others pointing back at you. You say this is discrimination, if you take to carrying camera make sure to have a legal form with you as well, so that you can get permission to film the employee, or they will refuse to help you. It sucks being treated different because of your race does it not.
Think on that the next time we walk down the street or see something on TV and make a comment. In this world to many people of ALL races are quick to scream foul.

#1 Consumer Comment
What you experienced isn't so much related to AirTran as it is Atlanta. It's an Atlanta thing..
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 26, 2005
Kathy,
What you experienced isn't so much related to AirTran as it is Atlanta. Furthermore, it's a growing problem and can be seen in restaurants, stores, etc.
Yet these same people will be the first to cry "racism" if something doesn't go their way. My advice is to avoid Atlanta, period, though I am very glad to hear that Delta treated you well.


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