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Report: #52455

Complaint Review: Allied Interstate - Oceanside New York

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  • Reported By: auburn California
  • Allied Interstate 3070 Lawson Blvd. Oceanside, New York U.S.A.

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Allied Interstate has attempted to collect on behalf of Verizon Wireless the amount of $174.52 for several years without proving proof that such charges are valid. On several occassion I tried contacting Allied Interstate and only after wasting many hours on the phone finally bypassed their voice prompts and talked with one of their operators. Allied has claimed that they got the account from Verizon Wireless whom in turn I have called.

Verizon Vireless claimed that the account belong to Air Touch a company they acquired and no longer had records available. And yet Allied Interstate has continued to harrass me thru the mail and via the phone.

I am now seeking legal action against Allied Interstate and Verizon Wireless in Placer County Small Claims Court. Soon I will have my day in court and look forward to the day that Allied Interstate and Verizon Wireless come to court.

Needless to say I am now getting mail from both companies requesting me to drop legal action against them if they forget the amount they were trying to collect.

Fighting back,

Mario Garcia

Mario
auburn, California
U.S.A.

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#14 Consumer Suggestion

Ignore them

AUTHOR: Bill - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, August 06, 2006
The truth is if people would simply ignore and never ever send money to these ignorant n**i blood sucking parasites like Allied they would be out of business over night.
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#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds

So silly i had to respond

AUTHOR: Jason - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, November 08, 2004
IT cracks me up that people think debt collections is customer service... Fukkers your not customers anynore if AI ic alling you, you are over the top hardcore debtors plain and simple.

To the person talking about Visa and out of work ten months through the entire post you said you know about this debt and know its yours, then finally you want proof? IT is your right of course but come on its fu**ers like you that deserve to be belittled by AI

To jennifer the AI manager??? I have known the man who started this company my whole life, for christs sakes my mother went into labor in the original office (a small mobile home that grew into NRC) and never once did we buy debt, we have always made out money from percentages and fees... makes me wonder if you really did work for AI for 6 years and if you did i understand now why you dont anymore. and as for the comment coming about my former status, it is because as we know schults went to jail sold off AI to some fu**ing indian (dots not feather) but has a new company which i am proud to be a part of.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Problem That Never Gets Solved

AUTHOR: Beth - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, October 27, 2004
My husband and I were talking about our own
annoying phone calls from Allied Interstate
& he told me he gets between 10 to 20 calls
a day from companys like Allied Interstate
concerning people that owe money. Neither
of us think that companies should be able
to receive telephone calls like this. My
husband is there to work and not to be answering
the telephone like this. He has come to think
the best solution for his problem is just
to erase the messages off of his telephone.
But he knows the next day it will start all over
again. You would think in this day and age
something could be done to help these companies
from having their employees waste so much time
for things like that. He has been fighting
this problem for a long time.
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#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds

worked at the original Allied Interstate, before the buyouts of other collection agencies and then naming them Allied..

AUTHOR: Jennifer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 14, 2004
Hello All!

I used to work for Allied Interstate Inc for almost 6 years. I also was in the management team. I am in no way defending them, because like I just said I USED to work for them. Allied used to buy old debt under the original owner. But since it has become corporate America, they mostly collect on accounts placed by the original creditor.

I worked at the original Allied Interstate, before the buyouts of other collection agencies and then naming them Allied. If I was in your situation, I would first look through your old copies of bills, etc and find where you did close the accounts or pay them off.

Secondly I would call the original creditor and talk with them. In my experiences there were more times than I can remember when a client placed an account with us that shouldn't have been. Depending on what they tell you then of course, act from there. If the account was placed in error it can be rectified. Nothing can be placed on your credit bureau unless the original creditor says to do so and it has been placed at the agency for more than 30 days, if I remember correctly.

Just a note, most clients do not want anything placed on customers credit reports, because they are still in fact a customer or they want to gain them back. Also the FDCPA, Fair Debt Collections Practices Act, says that you have 30 days from the original placement of the debt to dispute it. At that point you can send a letter to them requesting that they do not call you at home or at work. Now if you do get a call anywhere other than home you can cease them verbally.

Also if there is something on your credit bureau report (CBR), you can write to the credit bureau and dispute it. Most of the time it will be taken off because once you dispute it, Allied has 10 business days to respond and prove that it is yours. In my experience working there for 6 years, they didn't fill those papers out from the CBR, they just threw them away. This is all I can think at this time. Please let me know if you have any further questions/comments. I would be glad to help. Post below..
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

worked at the original Allied Interstate, before the buyouts of other collection agencies and then naming them Allied..

AUTHOR: Jennifer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 14, 2004
Hello All!

I used to work for Allied Interstate Inc for almost 6 years. I also was in the management team. I am in no way defending them, because like I just said I USED to work for them. Allied used to buy old debt under the original owner. But since it has become corporate America, they mostly collect on accounts placed by the original creditor.

I worked at the original Allied Interstate, before the buyouts of other collection agencies and then naming them Allied. If I was in your situation, I would first look through your old copies of bills, etc and find where you did close the accounts or pay them off.

Secondly I would call the original creditor and talk with them. In my experiences there were more times than I can remember when a client placed an account with us that shouldn't have been. Depending on what they tell you then of course, act from there. If the account was placed in error it can be rectified. Nothing can be placed on your credit bureau unless the original creditor says to do so and it has been placed at the agency for more than 30 days, if I remember correctly.

Just a note, most clients do not want anything placed on customers credit reports, because they are still in fact a customer or they want to gain them back. Also the FDCPA, Fair Debt Collections Practices Act, says that you have 30 days from the original placement of the debt to dispute it. At that point you can send a letter to them requesting that they do not call you at home or at work. Now if you do get a call anywhere other than home you can cease them verbally.

Also if there is something on your credit bureau report (CBR), you can write to the credit bureau and dispute it. Most of the time it will be taken off because once you dispute it, Allied has 10 business days to respond and prove that it is yours. In my experience working there for 6 years, they didn't fill those papers out from the CBR, they just threw them away. This is all I can think at this time. Please let me know if you have any further questions/comments. I would be glad to help. Post below..
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

worked at the original Allied Interstate, before the buyouts of other collection agencies and then naming them Allied..

AUTHOR: Jennifer - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 14, 2004
Hello All!

I used to work for Allied Interstate Inc for almost 6 years. I also was in the management team. I am in no way defending them, because like I just said I USED to work for them. Allied used to buy old debt under the original owner. But since it has become corporate America, they mostly collect on accounts placed by the original creditor.

I worked at the original Allied Interstate, before the buyouts of other collection agencies and then naming them Allied. If I was in your situation, I would first look through your old copies of bills, etc and find where you did close the accounts or pay them off.

Secondly I would call the original creditor and talk with them. In my experiences there were more times than I can remember when a client placed an account with us that shouldn't have been. Depending on what they tell you then of course, act from there. If the account was placed in error it can be rectified. Nothing can be placed on your credit bureau unless the original creditor says to do so and it has been placed at the agency for more than 30 days, if I remember correctly.

Just a note, most clients do not want anything placed on customers credit reports, because they are still in fact a customer or they want to gain them back. Also the FDCPA, Fair Debt Collections Practices Act, says that you have 30 days from the original placement of the debt to dispute it. At that point you can send a letter to them requesting that they do not call you at home or at work. Now if you do get a call anywhere other than home you can cease them verbally.

Also if there is something on your credit bureau report (CBR), you can write to the credit bureau and dispute it. Most of the time it will be taken off because once you dispute it, Allied has 10 business days to respond and prove that it is yours. In my experience working there for 6 years, they didn't fill those papers out from the CBR, they just threw them away. This is all I can think at this time. Please let me know if you have any further questions/comments. I would be glad to help. Post below..
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#8 Consumer Comment

ramblings

AUTHOR: Andy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, August 04, 2004
Allied Interstate has been calling my personal cell phone and my house phone harrassing me and my family. They claim I know a certin person, even though I said I do not know this person; they keep on calling. I have also called numbers of times and have asked them nicely to take off my numbers. They have not done so, in fact they insist that I do know the person. They are very rude when spoken to and have no sense of morals. They are the scum of the earth, and I rank them near the taliban.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Robin, be careful! read up on your state's Statute of Limitations and the Fair Credit Reporting Act

AUTHOR: S - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 30, 2003
If you think that Allied has a valid debt from you, then my suggestion would be to call the original party and request paperwork from them. Has it been a number of years? Look at your credit report and see if the debt has been discharged. If it has, then the records on your debt have probably been purged. Allied buys up old, frequently inaccurate debt and don't have the proof in writing they need to prove the debt. So you need to contact Alliance, if that is where they are saying the debt is from, and get something confirming it. Then, ask if you can pay them.

If not, you write a Cease and Desist Letter to Allied which will at least stop the laughing, condescending phone calls that are never handled professionally. Then you handle payment the way you want or what is easiest. Beware, though, that if you accept a settlement, get it in writing that this will clear your debt!

Otherwise, you will hear from another collection agency sometimes years later with the remainder of the debt. Allied is unscrupulous, and don't tell the truth to the debtors they service. If the debt has already been discharged off your credit report, tell people like George to go take a flying leap off a tall building because they can't do crap to you or your credit report.

The biggest problem with companies like Allied is that when people like yourself want to take care of any outstanding debt, they are treated so badly and lied to that it makes people not want to deal with them. Odds are, they will get screwed to the hilt even if they do pay. Handle this carefully and read up on your state's Statute of Limitations and the Fair Credit Reporting Act.
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#6 Consumer Comment

What Can I do Then?

AUTHOR: Robyn - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 16, 2003
I was contacted by Allied Interstate quite a few times, but never was able to return their phone call within their working hours because of my schedule. I finally switched shifts with someone and got a chance to contact them. They are trying to collect a debt with Visa. After several attempts to work something out with Visa, I guess I got referred to Allied. Unfortunately, I was without work for 10 months this year. (Note to others, that payment protection stuff that the credit card companies push to you...think about it!), so I was unable to make consistent payments to Visa. I finally got to speak to a live person at Allied after waiting for 30 minutes. I used to work in a call center and realize that at certain times calls get backed up. However, I was greeted rather rudely and and was explained the situation in a very "matter of fact" tone. Understandable, though I never treated a caller in this manner, understandable still if the call center is super busy. I requested documentation of the debt and something sent to me in writing -1) so that I can verify the debt and the creditor and 2) so that I can have the payment coupon to send payment to. I was then laughed at and told that they had sent out letters to me. I have not recieved anything from Allied Interstate. The last thing I have regarding this matter is my statement from Visa. That's it. I asked to verify my address because I had moved. I told the girl my new address and she said that is what they have on record for me. I again requested that I be sent a letter, collection letter, notice anything and she said they do not have to do that. She said they already sent me letters and that I probably just threw them away thinking that they were junk mail. (?) I open everything I get, junk or not. How am I supposed to pay it then? She told me she could take payment over the phone. I don't know her from eve to just be giving her my personal financial info and I don't even have an active checking account. I'm so confused. I actually want to get rid of this debt?! I asked to speak to supervisor and I got cut off. I tried calling again and waited for 45 minutes before my phone died on me. All I want is some type of mailing/documentation. I even filed a complaint with the BBB. I understand that as long as you're in compliance, the law can care less about ethics, but help me to understand this please? I unfortunately also had another credit card in collections with Alliance One. I recieved all their correspondence, my phone calls were handled professionally and I wasn't treated like scum of the earth. They have a job to do and they do it, without the attitude...Anyway, I digress... How can I get documentation, or whatever from Allied about my debt?
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#5 Consumer Comment

YOU HAVE 30DAYS TO DISPUTE

AUTHOR: JOANN - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 10, 2003
1ST OF ALL IN ALLIED INTERSTATES AND ANY COLLECTION AGENCY LETTER IT ALWAYS STATES THAT YOU HAVE 30DAYS TO DISPUTE, WHEN THAY RECIEVE A DISPUTE IN WRITING WITHIN THE 30DAYS THEY HAVE TO PUT THE ACCOUNT ON HOLD AND REQUEST THE FILE FROM CLIENT OR IF THEY HAVE IT ON FILE THEY HAVE TO SEND YOU THE INFORMATION, IF ANY COLLECTION BREAKS THE 30DAYS AND CALL YOU TO COLLECT AND NOT TO DISCUSS THE DISPUTE THE THEY ARE BRAKING FDCPA, TAKE THEM TO COURT. GEARGE I HOPE YOU DONT WORK FOR A COLLECTION AGENCY BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO CALL HE SO I TAKE YOU AND YOU COMPANY TO COURT. BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW THE LAW PERSONNAL JUDGEMENT IS 2,500 AND I DONT THINK ALIED WOULD PAY THAT FOR YOU. a*s
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#4 UPDATE Employee

Rebuttal/Rebuttal2

AUTHOR: George - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, July 03, 2003
rebuttal 1... all you can do is correct my grammar...what a little b***h... are you going to cry?/////Rebuttal 2...Wow... IF that happened i would question it too... Ive never heard of allied collecting for alltel... (doesnt mean we don't) So i cant defend my company in that instance.... However... Pull up infor on the net...LOL this and other DEBTOR friendly sites are the only place you have ever seen complaints... and imagine that they are from debtors.... as far as you comment about court cases again LOL... allied INterstate has been named in only "ONE" suit where it went further than the debtor asking if we can be sued to an attorney... that case4 you are welcome to look up simply type in any search engine volkov v. allied interstate.... yeah we have offered to settle that does not admit guilt... btu what no one notices is that is a susidary company... allied interstate west.... Lets say donatos workes spit in your pizza...they are owned by mcdonalds hence would be named in the suit...nothing more
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#3 Consumer Comment

Sorry George you may be right but you are also dead wrong

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 02, 2003
How are you going to tell someone what they do and don't owe? It sounds to me like you have forgotten that you are a person working for the company not the company itself so don't take the fact that they may be harassing people so seriously. Too many reports on the internet and in the media and in court have shown that Allied Interstate has harassed people, been wrong,and bullied them over the phone and in writing. Are all of these people big fat liars too? Although Mario may have stretched the truth and added his own spin, he may be right. I'll tell you why!

I just received a weird phone call from Allied Interstate. The lady mumbled the name of the company asked me if I had received any letters from them and proceeded to very quickly tell me I owed $2015.00 on an account with Alltel Communications.I laughed and told her "HELLLL NO" and then I asked her what were the dates of this bill. The dates were December 13th to May 30th. So, I proceeded to tell her that first of all "I HATE THE TELEPHONE" so I don't use it unless there is an emergency. I then told her I have a record of my bills that show that my telephone bill with Alltel had never been over $60.00 a month and it was that high because my husband added all of these silly features.

Finally, I calmly and laughingly shared with her that my account with ALLtel had been closed and paid off since December of 2002 when my husband and I, while in the hospital having our first child, switched to AT&T for better service- a service that I have had from December to the present (July). Well, she laughed with me and she said I don't know mam you'll have to get an agent from Alltel to call us and straighten your account out or this will report on your credit report.

I told her that my husband would be giving her a call because he knew the VPGM of the Alltel where we lived. She also got very nervous and laughed when I mentioned that if this was on my credit report someone would be hearing from my lawyer because I had not received any letter from Alltel addressing this problem. Why all of a sudden is a collection agency calling me about a bill that I had never even received from Alltel and why hadn't I received any collection calls from ALLTEl? This situation could have been handled and rectified way before going to a collection agency.

At the very end of the conversation I asked for her name the phone number the correct spelling of the company and her extension. After she gave me the phone number and the company name she quickly mumbled something about the conversation being private and not discussed with anyone else... I'm not quite sure because when she said this she said it fast and I said"WHAT! Wait I didn't get your extension!" CLICK . She hung up on me- STRANGE.


Well, I called my husband and then I got on the internet to look this company up to see what in the world this was. It just didn't sound legit! Well, here I am, getting all kinds of ideas of how I am going to handle this because this company has been an absolute nuisance to others and I am going to have to put some pants on this situation from the get go. Meaning send a Cease and desist letter, get an attorney to draw up some documents, get a letter from Alltel saying I owe them nothing, make copies of all of my bills, document name time of all my conversations with ALLied Intersate and pull my credit report to make sure they aren't trying to ruin my credit.

From what I have seen and heard about this company, you have to cya-cover your @$$. Oh and George remember, corporate America isn't always right but if they are, we must be accountable for the minutes we do use on our phones and our actions. On the other hand, Mario the consumer isn't always right either but fair is fair and if the company is wrong the American way is to honor you as the consumer and fix the problem not perpetuate it. Allied Health really needs to be investigated for the people who are telling the truth and for those people who are just trying to get a service for free-GROW UP!
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Boy are you stupid George

AUTHOR: Noah - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 27, 2003
Good gosh George, are you really that stupid with all those big words you can't spell like information and complaining. You sound like the one living in a trailer.
Signed: noyb
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#1 UPDATE Employee

YOU ARE A BLATANT LIAR

AUTHOR: George - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 19, 2003
While with any collection agency (third party) Meaning hired by the original creditor) Does have infomration goofed up from time time you have two problems one. (You ARE NOT sueing allied interstate, as this would be in a civil court not small claims (You are copmplaing about an F.D.C.P.A) violation...

2 ALlied is not ever responsible to provide proof of a debt... If requested we contact the original creditor and let them know but legally thats it if you do not send in a formal cease and decist letter collection will continue legally un-validated...

3. Allied interstate has never nor has it now ever sent a letter saying we will forget the balance if you drop your legal suit, as that in itself is one admitting a fault that is not our own, and illegal to offer such a deal.

Here in your case is what really happened,

You signed a verizon contract after using your wonderful phone decided the price was unfair and decided to quit paying... 6 months of not hearing anything from verizon made you tell everyone you know they dropped me because i told them their service sucked... suddenly my company is hired and we begin contacting you which make s you a liar, and now you are upset that you really have to pay your bill, so i will show them i will post my ignorance on a website... PAY YOUR BILL DEBTOR... and if you can't, move that Trailer to loser ville where you belong
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