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Complaint Review: Alonti, Boss Advertising - Victoria Jackson - Rochester Michigan

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I have a Marketing background, and "interviewed" (if you can call it that) for an AT&T position with Boss. When I discovered that it meant wearing an acid-orange shirt, and going door-to-door to sell digital TV, etc, I declined. The next week, I found a listing for selling upscale cosmetics - well, I could do that, sounded like fun. ....and there I was back at the same place, looking at the AT&T guys in their crazy shirts!

I mentioned this during the "interview", and asked if they were the same company (AT&T is under Boss, and the cosemetics is under Alonti). They said they were a "multifacted company". I decided a job was a job, and just let it go. I agreed to do a 2 hour "shadow" the next day. I went, and it seemed like fun, although when the whole position and pay structure was explained to me, I felt it was pretty wierd. And I did not see how on earth you could take home the promised $750 a week. However, it sounded like I'd at least have a job, so I agreed to go to work for them

And that was when the craziness began. First came the "conference call invitations" - texts sent to my cell phone constantly. Then, my "supervisor" began calling me at wierd hours wanting "just to talk" (at 10 PM on Sunday night? I don't think so!). Then she began texting me. Finally, while I was on my way to my first day of work, she called me and asked me to work 3pm to 9pm. I explained that I was almost to the job site (60 miles from my home), and she said, "Well, just don't bother then, you can work a 12 hour day tomorrow. We all do 12 hour days." Then she began talking about me going to Dallas to work "outside of my demographics" for 18 days. Huh? What?

What I'm relating here is the Reader's Digest version of my actual experience - while I just wanted a job, Alonti wants you to drink deeply of the corporate Kool-Aide.

The Victoria Jackson product is excellent - however, Alonti is simply nuts. It's more cultish than it is business - they want people who will sell cosmetics door-to-door, work 12 hour days in Sam's Club, and to work 6 days a week. Anyway, just say no if you see their ads on CareerBuilder - it's not a real job!

Sonya
Flint, Michigan
U.S.A.

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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Read between the lines -- Granton Marketing, Boss Advertising DS Max. Ex- employee will fill you in.

AUTHOR: Jon - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Alright, here's the deal. I worked for Tri-Star Advertising from around 2000 to 2002. Tri-Star was an independant franchise of Granton Marketing. Tr-Star and Boss were basically the same, but had different owners. Tri-Star started out in a Saginaw location, and eventually moved to the location on Dixie Highway with Boss and the others.

The structure is a little confusing, but here goes.

DS Max is a corporation that does all sorts of stuff-- from litereally selling childrens toys on the street, to marketing for the Detroit Tigers. They have different divisions, that specialize in telecommunications, advertising, clearance, or gas etc. It is not uncommon to find a group of these franschises sharing the same building to reduce overhead.

What I did with the company? I sold stuff door to door. I started by selling the certificates that were like but one get one for...

Blimpie
Bubba's ( resturant )
Golf Courses
Papa Johns
Dominoes
Detroit Tigers
Little Ceasers
Pizza Hut

It's all legit. Relitavly speaking. Here is the important part:

As with ANY franchise, your experience varies by the people working there and the owners--that's why it's relative. A prime example, is the Pizza certs. They were normally only good at like one or two stores NOT ALL. That's legit, as long as the guy at the door doesn't mis-represent it to you.

Point and case, I bet you've ordered something and McDonalds and it's been wrong, overcooked taken forever to get to you or SOMETHING. Was that the last time you went to McDonalds? We all have bad experiences, it's part of doing business; but you can't blame Yum Brands because the guy at the KFC gave you extra crispy instead ot regular. You just get you money back and move on.

Don't get me wrong, there are some horror stories out there-- and I believe most of them. I met some shady folk when I worked there; but you have to remember that those experiences are individual, and not always indicative of everyon's experiences.

So... you have been called in for a "Day of Observation", or "Second Interview"

What you need to know:

1. It wont be easy. Nothing of value ever is, but there are rewards for hard work.

2. Being a good salesman has nothing to do with what you really want to do here.
-- That deserves some explanation, and I can give it; but it's outside the scope of this post. email me (((Redacted)))if you'd like some more info, but you need to know that you CAN do this job if you want to, but you have to be coachable and want to do it.

3. It will teach you how to talk to people. After a few months doing this job, your comfort zone will be expanded exponentially.

4. You will learn valuable leadership skills, or you will fail.

5. You can make good money at the entry level of this business, but it will be based on your performance.

6. If you really try hard to apply what they teach you, those skill will follow you wherever you go, and you will stand out at every job you ever take.

7. If you need a 9-5 job because of kids... this is difficult. It might not be for you. The hours are long, and you will need a very supportive family, or daycare etc.

eh... I could go on, but you get the idea. It's not some magical get rich quick scheme, but you can make a lot of money in managment: It's not a scam, but it can be shady depending on who you come in with, and it not easy; but it teaches you a TON.

I worked there for two years, and worked in Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, Port Sanilac, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron, Toledo, Bay City, Detroit, Grand Rapids, Big Rapids... geeze Ithink that's about it. I had a BLAST. Wouldn't trade that time for anything, and I still keep in contact with a lot of folks from that era....

So, if you worked with me, or if you have any questions about what you're doing drop me a line! I'm on facebook (((Redacted)))
Jon Leitner


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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Read between the lines -- Granton Marketing, Boss Advertising DS Max. Ex- employee will fill you in.

AUTHOR: Jon - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Alright, here's the deal. I worked for Tri-Star Advertising from around 2000 to 2002. Tri-Star was an independant franchise of Granton Marketing. Tr-Star and Boss were basically the same, but had different owners. Tri-Star started out in a Saginaw location, and eventually moved to the location on Dixie Highway with Boss and the others.

The structure is a little confusing, but here goes.

DS Max is a corporation that does all sorts of stuff-- from litereally selling childrens toys on the street, to marketing for the Detroit Tigers. They have different divisions, that specialize in telecommunications, advertising, clearance, or gas etc. It is not uncommon to find a group of these franschises sharing the same building to reduce overhead.

What I did with the company? I sold stuff door to door. I started by selling the certificates that were like but one get one for...

Blimpie
Bubba's ( resturant )
Golf Courses
Papa Johns
Dominoes
Detroit Tigers
Little Ceasers
Pizza Hut

It's all legit. Relitavly speaking. Here is the important part:

As with ANY franchise, your experience varies by the people working there and the owners--that's why it's relative. A prime example, is the Pizza certs. They were normally only good at like one or two stores NOT ALL. That's legit, as long as the guy at the door doesn't mis-represent it to you.

Point and case, I bet you've ordered something and McDonalds and it's been wrong, overcooked taken forever to get to you or SOMETHING. Was that the last time you went to McDonalds? We all have bad experiences, it's part of doing business; but you can't blame Yum Brands because the guy at the KFC gave you extra crispy instead ot regular. You just get you money back and move on.

Don't get me wrong, there are some horror stories out there-- and I believe most of them. I met some shady folk when I worked there; but you have to remember that those experiences are individual, and not always indicative of everyon's experiences.

So... you have been called in for a "Day of Observation", or "Second Interview"

What you need to know:

1. It wont be easy. Nothing of value ever is, but there are rewards for hard work.

2. Being a good salesman has nothing to do with what you really want to do here.
-- That deserves some explanation, and I can give it; but it's outside the scope of this post. email me (((Redacted)))if you'd like some more info, but you need to know that you CAN do this job if you want to, but you have to be coachable and want to do it.

3. It will teach you how to talk to people. After a few months doing this job, your comfort zone will be expanded exponentially.

4. You will learn valuable leadership skills, or you will fail.

5. You can make good money at the entry level of this business, but it will be based on your performance.

6. If you really try hard to apply what they teach you, those skill will follow you wherever you go, and you will stand out at every job you ever take.

7. If you need a 9-5 job because of kids... this is difficult. It might not be for you. The hours are long, and you will need a very supportive family, or daycare etc.

eh... I could go on, but you get the idea. It's not some magical get rich quick scheme, but you can make a lot of money in managment: It's not a scam, but it can be shady depending on who you come in with, and it not easy; but it teaches you a TON.

I worked there for two years, and worked in Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, Port Sanilac, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron, Toledo, Bay City, Detroit, Grand Rapids, Big Rapids... geeze Ithink that's about it. I had a BLAST. Wouldn't trade that time for anything, and I still keep in contact with a lot of folks from that era....

So, if you worked with me, or if you have any questions about what you're doing drop me a line! I'm on facebook (((Redacted)))
Jon Leitner


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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Read between the lines -- Granton Marketing, Boss Advertising DS Max. Ex- employee will fill you in.

AUTHOR: Jon - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Alright, here's the deal. I worked for Tri-Star Advertising from around 2000 to 2002. Tri-Star was an independant franchise of Granton Marketing. Tr-Star and Boss were basically the same, but had different owners. Tri-Star started out in a Saginaw location, and eventually moved to the location on Dixie Highway with Boss and the others.

The structure is a little confusing, but here goes.

DS Max is a corporation that does all sorts of stuff-- from litereally selling childrens toys on the street, to marketing for the Detroit Tigers. They have different divisions, that specialize in telecommunications, advertising, clearance, or gas etc. It is not uncommon to find a group of these franschises sharing the same building to reduce overhead.

What I did with the company? I sold stuff door to door. I started by selling the certificates that were like but one get one for...

Blimpie
Bubba's ( resturant )
Golf Courses
Papa Johns
Dominoes
Detroit Tigers
Little Ceasers
Pizza Hut

It's all legit. Relitavly speaking. Here is the important part:

As with ANY franchise, your experience varies by the people working there and the owners--that's why it's relative. A prime example, is the Pizza certs. They were normally only good at like one or two stores NOT ALL. That's legit, as long as the guy at the door doesn't mis-represent it to you.

Point and case, I bet you've ordered something and McDonalds and it's been wrong, overcooked taken forever to get to you or SOMETHING. Was that the last time you went to McDonalds? We all have bad experiences, it's part of doing business; but you can't blame Yum Brands because the guy at the KFC gave you extra crispy instead ot regular. You just get you money back and move on.

Don't get me wrong, there are some horror stories out there-- and I believe most of them. I met some shady folk when I worked there; but you have to remember that those experiences are individual, and not always indicative of everyon's experiences.

So... you have been called in for a "Day of Observation", or "Second Interview"

What you need to know:

1. It wont be easy. Nothing of value ever is, but there are rewards for hard work.

2. Being a good salesman has nothing to do with what you really want to do here.
-- That deserves some explanation, and I can give it; but it's outside the scope of this post. email me (((Redacted)))if you'd like some more info, but you need to know that you CAN do this job if you want to, but you have to be coachable and want to do it.

3. It will teach you how to talk to people. After a few months doing this job, your comfort zone will be expanded exponentially.

4. You will learn valuable leadership skills, or you will fail.

5. You can make good money at the entry level of this business, but it will be based on your performance.

6. If you really try hard to apply what they teach you, those skill will follow you wherever you go, and you will stand out at every job you ever take.

7. If you need a 9-5 job because of kids... this is difficult. It might not be for you. The hours are long, and you will need a very supportive family, or daycare etc.

eh... I could go on, but you get the idea. It's not some magical get rich quick scheme, but you can make a lot of money in managment: It's not a scam, but it can be shady depending on who you come in with, and it not easy; but it teaches you a TON.

I worked there for two years, and worked in Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, Port Sanilac, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron, Toledo, Bay City, Detroit, Grand Rapids, Big Rapids... geeze Ithink that's about it. I had a BLAST. Wouldn't trade that time for anything, and I still keep in contact with a lot of folks from that era....

So, if you worked with me, or if you have any questions about what you're doing drop me a line! I'm on facebook (((Redacted)))
Jon Leitner


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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Read between the lines -- Granton Marketing, Boss Advertising DS Max. Ex- employee will fill you in.

AUTHOR: Jon - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Alright, here's the deal. I worked for Tri-Star Advertising from around 2000 to 2002. Tri-Star was an independant franchise of Granton Marketing. Tr-Star and Boss were basically the same, but had different owners. Tri-Star started out in a Saginaw location, and eventually moved to the location on Dixie Highway with Boss and the others.

The structure is a little confusing, but here goes.

DS Max is a corporation that does all sorts of stuff-- from litereally selling childrens toys on the street, to marketing for the Detroit Tigers. They have different divisions, that specialize in telecommunications, advertising, clearance, or gas etc. It is not uncommon to find a group of these franschises sharing the same building to reduce overhead.

What I did with the company? I sold stuff door to door. I started by selling the certificates that were like but one get one for...

Blimpie
Bubba's ( resturant )
Golf Courses
Papa Johns
Dominoes
Detroit Tigers
Little Ceasers
Pizza Hut

It's all legit. Relitavly speaking. Here is the important part:

As with ANY franchise, your experience varies by the people working there and the owners--that's why it's relative. A prime example, is the Pizza certs. They were normally only good at like one or two stores NOT ALL. That's legit, as long as the guy at the door doesn't mis-represent it to you.

Point and case, I bet you've ordered something and McDonalds and it's been wrong, overcooked taken forever to get to you or SOMETHING. Was that the last time you went to McDonalds? We all have bad experiences, it's part of doing business; but you can't blame Yum Brands because the guy at the KFC gave you extra crispy instead ot regular. You just get you money back and move on.

Don't get me wrong, there are some horror stories out there-- and I believe most of them. I met some shady folk when I worked there; but you have to remember that those experiences are individual, and not always indicative of everyon's experiences.

So... you have been called in for a "Day of Observation", or "Second Interview"

What you need to know:

1. It wont be easy. Nothing of value ever is, but there are rewards for hard work.

2. Being a good salesman has nothing to do with what you really want to do here.
-- That deserves some explanation, and I can give it; but it's outside the scope of this post. email me (((Redacted)))if you'd like some more info, but you need to know that you CAN do this job if you want to, but you have to be coachable and want to do it.

3. It will teach you how to talk to people. After a few months doing this job, your comfort zone will be expanded exponentially.

4. You will learn valuable leadership skills, or you will fail.

5. You can make good money at the entry level of this business, but it will be based on your performance.

6. If you really try hard to apply what they teach you, those skill will follow you wherever you go, and you will stand out at every job you ever take.

7. If you need a 9-5 job because of kids... this is difficult. It might not be for you. The hours are long, and you will need a very supportive family, or daycare etc.

eh... I could go on, but you get the idea. It's not some magical get rich quick scheme, but you can make a lot of money in managment: It's not a scam, but it can be shady depending on who you come in with, and it not easy; but it teaches you a TON.

I worked there for two years, and worked in Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, Port Sanilac, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron, Toledo, Bay City, Detroit, Grand Rapids, Big Rapids... geeze Ithink that's about it. I had a BLAST. Wouldn't trade that time for anything, and I still keep in contact with a lot of folks from that era....

So, if you worked with me, or if you have any questions about what you're doing drop me a line! I'm on facebook (((Redacted)))
Jon Leitner


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