AMWAY/QUIXTAR scam, fraud, ridiculous, insanity, Edison New Jersey Global Nationwide

First,   someone mentioned SS will end.  No it won't.  We're all paying for it.  Some politician will figure out something.

Second.  Amway I thought was dead.  There are recruiters that will lie to get you in to let you know that there are ways to making money.

At least thats what I thought.  Then when I decided to meet at a hotel I knew in the first five minutes that it was a pyramid scheme.

Don't do it.

I am very sad to say that I was once one of the people unfortunate enough to succumb to the lies and subtle manipulation of the Quixtar zealots. My neighbors at the time had been drawn into this whole scheme. They accosted my then fiancee and I with this magnificent oppurtunity for our own business and would introduce us to these wealthy, successful individuals who could tell us more. Being only 19 at them time, it sounded attractive and my "friends" next door were stating time and time again how they now had their own "business" and would be making all this income...so on and so forth. Sound familiar to anyone? We went to a meeting at my neighbors sisters house and were run through the whole presentation. Stories of how Diamond members down through regular Joes had complete financial freedom, excessive dispoable income, fancy cars...the whole lot. How Diamond member could participate in cruises, various special perks. So many possibilities and tantalizing hooks. Hooks with barbs, however. I was young and had no experience at this point with MLM so my fiancee and I could not give them our money quickly enough. I bought into everything my uplines told me. I bought the books, the tapes, the needless and overpriced items. I harrassed and harangued friends and family and strangers. I wasted over a year and a half of my life. I spent every moment that wasn't at work or awake trying to make money on this worthless money pit. My poor fiancee (now wife) did the same. In the end all it did was cost money and provide a few meager, tiny checks that didn't even begin to recoup our investment. Over time I started to see a senseless adherence and blind devotion to this scheme in others involved and after a year and a half we saw it in ourselves. The constant repitition of the same promises, same catch phrases, same empty facts and figures had worked so far into ours and others heads. It IS a slow, systematic form of brainwashing. Plain and simple. I care not one small fraction who may say otherwise. They are either liars with their own egos to defend, or even sadder, good people who are so sold on a lie they defend it even in the presence of rationality and truth. All the arguments stating how honest and good Quixtar is are propaganda. Directly from Quixtar's own propaganda playbook. So many try to defend Quixtar by pointing out the major companies with whom they do business. Quixtar is NOT, nor ever has been, an associate or affiliate of these companies. They are a reseller. Just like any other brick and mortal store. They buy the product, they resell it. Those companies do not do business with Quixtar because Quixtar is moral, ethical or fair. They do business with them because Quixtar buys their product. It is a relationship of transaction not of endorsement. Those if you who use this as a means to promote Quixtar as upstanding and ethical are manipulators, not lying, but manipulating the truth to fit your view. I now own my own REAL business. I am quite proud and quite happy in that fact, if I used my employees with the dishonesty and disregard that Quixtar uses it's IBO's. I would not have it. Please, use your money for something beneificial. Quixtar will NOT grant you, the entry level IBO, financial independence. It is a ticket to wealth for some, and those some are the immoral liars, manipulators, and exploitationists who operate and direct this organization. Please, avoid them at all costs for your own sake. If someone tries to lasso you into this, do whatever you must do to avoid it. If any of the Quixtar zealots have something to say...feel free to waste your breath. If someone had enough sense to come here before joining your farce of an organization. They will have the sense to tell you where to go and burn after they read the countless testimony of the people you took advantage of. I have said all I need to say. I will not answer any Quixtar participants on here who attempt to engage me with your empty meaningless facts and hollow propaganda, so don't waste your time. Most people are waking up to your smoke and mirrors.

"Amway Finances Reilgious Right Groups!"

I live in Southwest Michigan and have had to deal with Amway people for years.

The owners are indeed a scary bunch.

Not only is amway a scam but amway funds many radical 'religious' right groups and far right causes. The founders are the worst sort of vermin!

Not only is amway a scam but amway funds many radical 'religious' right groups and far right causes. The founders are the worst sort of vermin!

Um.. the majority of diamonds who are successfull are mostly successfull outside of amway and that any success in amway is specific to recruitment.

When recruitment is the primary growth of a business and not the selling of product,the biz is a pyramid scheme....period.

I am nearly 100 times more successfull thanthe people i know who got into amway.It was per my growing the use of my product instead of recruiting people.

I now have litterally 5 people working for me who do all the work and they are litterally my employees. No recruiting here in their salarys are nowhere near the sales amts of product.

AMway = legal fakesetup, only the top originals really make real $$ at amway.

I am a former amway seller etc..

However, though successfull it was via the process of getting others joined up.


It is litteraly the only way a true success in amway/quixstar can be.

It is litterally impossible to make real wealth via amway except by not falling for the b.s.

Also if a person introduces you to this and insists on you joining, if they are truely a believer in it, have them front you the $$ it will take initially.

A true pyrmid if were to work, would want the ones with extra $$ to help subside the lower people to make it a good line.

Its a pyramid and a true scheme.

The above about allthings being pyramid is somewhat misleading.


Personally if I person comes to me with Amway/quixstar - I will likely use that fact against them in the workplace. Ive already been sucessful in getting 2 people fired in the past, per the manager herself was similarly of the opinion it was not a good deal...and she was in fact one of the top people in the past.

In the early days, the way for amway to seem to succeed was to actually sell the product to each other, and eventually to others in a sale that would appear to be avon like.


The cleaning products where themselves substandard quality and you could go retail to get better quality and cheaper both.

Its still true today in some cases.

Jackedonvitamins,

You typical Amway rebuttal doesn't fit. Most people work in an organization with a PYRAMID organizational structure. This is totally different from a pyramid SCHEME. Amyway is all about 'recruting' new people into the organization, and then sell motivational tools to them. The 'business' is not about selling the products. Do some research, there have been a number of investigative reports that expose top Diamonds admitting that only a small amount of their income comes from Amway product sales.

That's too bad to hear that your friend would not leave you alone. Simply put, you can get as upset you want about "pyramid schemes" but you live in one everyday. If you don't like Quixtar that's fine, good thing you told the person who invited you that you weren't interested (perhaps you should have told him point blank more sooner). Quixtar is simply another way to make money, so many people talk trash about so many other "pyramids" because they cannot make it work, because they do not have the skill. An easy way to avoid the "pyramid" is to just go back to your 9-5 and grind until you are 65 and then get another job, because we all know social security will not be there. Here's a though if you hate "pyramids" think of your job. Who do you work for? that's your upline, are there other workers? you are all under your manager, and his manager? He makes more money right. then his boss? Wait, your boss's boss makes more money than you do right? naturally, because he made it work. You live in a "pyramid". Even if you don't like the business side of the business they have so many exclusives that you can have that are well worth the money. If you don't like it stop crying, and do what you do best, work a job.

That's too bad to hear that your friend would not leave you alone. Simply put, you can get as upset you want about "pyramid schemes" but you live in one everyday. If you don't like Quixtar that's fine, good thing you told the person who invited you that you weren't interested (perhaps you should have told him point blank more sooner). Quixtar is simply another way to make money, so many people talk trash about so many other "pyramids" because they cannot make it work, because they do not have the skill. An easy way to avoid the "pyramid" is to just go back to your 9-5 and grind until you are 65 and then get another job, because we all know social security will not be there. Here's a though if you hate "pyramids" think of your job. Who do you work for? that's your upline, are there other workers? you are all under your manager, and his manager? He makes more money right. then his boss? Wait, your boss's boss makes more money than you do right? naturally, because he made it work. You live in a "pyramid". Even if you don't like the business side of the business they have so many exclusives that you can have that are well worth the money. If you don't like it stop crying, and do what you do best, work a job.

That's too bad to hear that your friend would not leave you alone. Simply put, you can get as upset you want about "pyramid schemes" but you live in one everyday. If you don't like Quixtar that's fine, good thing you told the person who invited you that you weren't interested (perhaps you should have told him point blank more sooner). Quixtar is simply another way to make money, so many people talk trash about so many other "pyramids" because they cannot make it work, because they do not have the skill. An easy way to avoid the "pyramid" is to just go back to your 9-5 and grind until you are 65 and then get another job, because we all know social security will not be there. Here's a though if you hate "pyramids" think of your job. Who do you work for? that's your upline, are there other workers? you are all under your manager, and his manager? He makes more money right. then his boss? Wait, your boss's boss makes more money than you do right? naturally, because he made it work. You live in a "pyramid". Even if you don't like the business side of the business they have so many exclusives that you can have that are well worth the money. If you don't like it stop crying, and do what you do best, work a job.

That's too bad to hear that your friend would not leave you alone. Simply put, you can get as upset you want about "pyramid schemes" but you live in one everyday. If you don't like Quixtar that's fine, good thing you told the person who invited you that you weren't interested (perhaps you should have told him point blank more sooner). Quixtar is simply another way to make money, so many people talk trash about so many other "pyramids" because they cannot make it work, because they do not have the skill. An easy way to avoid the "pyramid" is to just go back to your 9-5 and grind until you are 65 and then get another job, because we all know social security will not be there. Here's a though if you hate "pyramids" think of your job. Who do you work for? that's your upline, are there other workers? you are all under your manager, and his manager? He makes more money right. then his boss? Wait, your boss's boss makes more money than you do right? naturally, because he made it work. You live in a "pyramid". Even if you don't like the business side of the business they have so many exclusives that you can have that are well worth the money. If you don't like it stop crying, and do what you do best, work a job.