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Complaint Review: Anthony Scott Tubbs Aka Scott Tubbs Dba Etail Experts - Frisco Texas

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I have read several reports by AND against Scott Tubbs. He reported World Wide Consulting Services as a company that rips people off, then after a rebuttal by World Wide, he comes back and retracts his report. Scott Tubbs retracted his report because he DOES THE VERY SAME THING THAT HE REPORTED WWCS for doing. (Formerly Choice Solutions Consulting Service and now as Etail Experts). He is a con artist.

He finds people who are looking for jobs as sales trainers, contacts them and tells them that he is looking for GOOD people to train as "Sales Consultants" or "Trainers". He tells them that he want sto train them for his business and he will set them up to become trainers who go out to car dealerships, interview the prospective car salesmen, then do a three day training class for the ones who supposedly are chosen, but at the cost of $629.00 for the training before they even know they have a job.

This is a SCAM!! Before you let Scott and his smooth talking self con you, do your homework. He will tell you all kinds of lies. He will even try to get money out of you BEFORE you go out to Texas for the training. BUT DON'T FALL FOR IT! He will tell you that you need to give him your credit card number so that he can get you a hotel for the week, but that he will "reimburse" you by deducting this $500 from the amount that you must pay him (over $4,000) for 20 training manuals for future "classes".

WAKE UP EVERYONE. You guys need to pull together and take this guy down. Don't let him keep getting people's money. It's bad enough to let him have the $500 but to pay him over $4,000 for training materials but then he fools you into thinking that you will make over $80,000 a year. If you don't believe me, ask his former "partner", Christopher Ried, who is now alerting people to this scam. (For what reason is anyone's guess!) Maybe the authorities should interview him.

I want to know why he hasn't been caught and dealt with by authorities yet? If enough reports are filed against him, he will eventually have to pay!

And, Scott, I know you will read this, so listen---you need to take some grammar classes. Your grammatical errors on your e-mails and ripoff responses are atrocious. Every time I read something that you write, I cringe. Do you actually have any education? Well, I guess you don't have to have an education to rip people off--even imbeciles can do that!

J.p.
Anderson, South Carolina
U.S.A.

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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

scott you're a Jerk

AUTHOR: Nelson - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 28, 2010

I hope you remember me you SOB. I did deals for you when you tried to keep the money you MF. I should have gone to Louisiana to kick your a*s. Next time you're in Houston let me know SOB. I'll meet you MF. you're nothing but  a low life scum sucking b*****d. you'd screw your own mother if you had the chance. I can't believe Chris ever defended you you piece of s**+* white thash MF. I hope you die you b*****d.

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CHRISTOPHER D RIED THE WORLDS BIGGEST LOSER IN TEXAS

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 19, 2008

Chris


Get a life, no one cares about your sob stories

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Scott Tubbs Posing as Chris Ried to post a bogus report!

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 12, 2008

The posting before this one is not by Chris Ried, it is actually from Scott Tubbs posing as me, he opened another account with ripoff report so he could post under my name, if it was me it would have the same address and name which it does not. Also I did not post the original complaint, if I were going to post a complaint, I would have assigned my name like I did on the rebuttal. As far as Scott owning the company from day one and hiring me that is a lie, and can be verified by doing a search on Etail Experts, Inc. with the Secretary of States office in Texas. As far as Scott suing me for slander and winning, that is another bold face lie, just like the bogus report he filed about me, everything he said can be disproven by independent 3rd parties. Scott has since posted a retraction to the original statement, however the damage was already done.

Following is the posting I was going to put up months ago, however, I decided to leave it alone until I saw that Scott is now posing as me and putting up bogus responses using my name.

My name is Chris Ried; I started Etail Experts, Inc. in November of 2004. With Etail Experts, Inc., we trained dealerships on how to be successful selling online. Then in 2005 I joined the Zig Ziglar Corporation to help develop a legacy plan for Zig. I soon became a head trainer, training most of the new trainers we brought on. Then in 2007, Zig mostly retired and handed the company over to his son Tom Ziglar and Tom eliminated Ziglar True Performance which was all the independent trainers. I then went on monster.com looking for anyone that needed experienced speakers and I found Choice Solutions Consulting Services (CSCS) which Scott Tubbs owned in Shreveport, LA. I paid the $4,580 just like everyone else that at chooses to be a contractor for Scott Tubbs. Not long after that, I began overseeing trainers for Scott and began training the new trainers; I developed a leader's guide for the Wednesday morning presentation and the sales training, of which Scott didn't have. I then had to go to Shreveport on a regular basis to check on the office because Scott was very rarely there, and things were not being done right.

So my wife and I suggested that Scott move to Texas and partner with us, as we already had a valid corporation with good credit and a good name in the auto industry, and that way we could run the office properly without having to travel to Shreveport all the time. So Scott packed up his house and moved to Frisco, TX without having everything between us laid out; however, we did end up working things out and our agreement was that Scott would do the recruiting of new trainers. For this he would make $1,500 a trainer out of their initial fee. I would be in charge of the office and train the new trainers and for that I would receive $1,000 per trainer out of their initial fee. The rest of the money was supposed to go into the company to help cover overhead. Our deal also stated that if either one of us were to go out and do a class at a dealership we would be paid like a regular trainer, except that Scott and I were each supposed to get $50 of the $229 as an override, with the remaining $129 going into the company. While Scott and I were partners he did 8 different deals and the company never saw a dime of the money.

My wife and I got a corporate credit card through Chase Bank that we allowed Scott to use personally. Scott assured us that no matter what he would always make sure the credit card was paid, because Angela and I were personally liable for that credit card. To make a long story short, Scott ran the credit card up to over $18,000, and our credit line was only $15,000. This made it so Angela and I had to pay $3,500 as a minimum payment to get the card back under the limit. The bottom line is Scott still has not paid the credit card and has cost us a lot of money that we couldn't afford just to keep our credit in good standing. Scott also used our other corporate card to run up another $3,000 personally. While we were partners Scott also took over $8,000 out of the company account that was not owed to him. My wife and I put a big screen TV and surround system on one of our personal credit cards for Scott when we first partnered up that total was over $5,000. In total Scott got over $34,000 in either cash or credit from the company and Angela and I. He made one $500 payment 6 months ago. Scott is supposed to pay $2,750 a month for two years to pay us off, other than the $500 he has never even attempted to make good on the credit and money he was loaned.

The straw that broke the camel's back was in August my family and I went to a family reunion in Nebraska. I told Scott not to take any more money out of the corporate account because we would not make payroll if he did. He then waited until we were 800 miles away and took $2,000 out of the corporate account that again was not owed to him. I later got him to put the money back after I drove all the way home to Texas in the middle of our reunion. That showed me that Scott truly only cares about Scott. I'm the type of individual that will go without a check before my employees do. As a matter of fact, while Scott and I were partners for the short 6 months, I made $22,000 for training trainers, however I loaned the company over $30,000 so as you can see it actually cost me $8,000 to work 60 hour weeks. Yet Scott never sacrificed anything, even when I told him he would need to so we could make payroll until our next class, and not only would he not short himself but he also tried to take that extra $2,000 that he wasn't owed. Right when Scott and I were splitting, I transferred $4,300 out of the corporate account into my personal account so that we were sure Scott could not change his mind and take payroll money again. I paid our last payroll out of my personal account to insure that everyone would be paid. I also paid all of our payroll taxes so there wouldn't be any payroll liabilities. That left about $2,000 which I kept to reduce the overall money that I had invested in Etail Experts, Inc. even with the $2,000 it still left a balance of over $30,000 that the company still owed me.

Scott and I have ended our partnership, Angela and I gave Scott the corporation. We just walked away and are doing something completely different so we wouldn't create competition for Scott. Since this is the business Scott's been in for so long it was only right to let him continue, whereas I know how to do many other things to make money. In exchange for us signing the corporation over to Scott, he agreed to sign a loan to us for $60,348.77 that he owes us, however we reduced the amount to $55,000 because we took the TV and surround system Scott never paid us for---we figured at least we would get something out of Scott. Scott also gave me a check for $2,000 which was supposed to be a down payment on the loan. Scott asked me to hold the check for a week until he did his train the trainer class. Later, he said that he was waiting for a check from one of the trainer's to clear and once it did I could cash my check. However, once it cleared, Scott removed the money immediately and lied to me about it clearing. Then this past week a check came to my house from a dealership, so I deposited the check for Scott into his corporate account and that just made it so there was enough money to cash my check. I called Scott and told him about the deposit and that I cashed my check. He then called the bank manager and threatened to sue the bank for allowing me to make a deposit and cashing a check which I had now been holding for 3 weeks. Even though I did nothing wrong and neither did the bank, I returned the $2,000 to the bank so as to not put them in the middle. Scott then promptly put a stop pay on the check to keep me from ever being able to cash it. I deposited the check into my account anyway and when it comes back as unpaid we are taking it to the District Attorney's office and we are going to have them try to collect from Scott.

Scott also promised Steve Richard, one of our trainer's, that he would pay him $500 for every trainer he helped recruit. I personally paid Steve $1,000 and $1,000 out of the company to make good on Scott's promise to pay. But Scott said he needed the money more than Steve, so Steve could wait on his money. I didn't allow that to happen and made sure Steve was paid. Just another example of Scott looking out for Number 1.

I don't know what Scott has told you about how much work to expect or how much money you will make. What I can tell you is what our trainer's experienced while Scott and I were partners. About 70% of the trainers couldn't make it and it just cost them money. Out of the trainer's that were doing classes, the majority of them ended up with only 2 to 4 students and they are signing the majority of their own deals.

The bottom line is this: Scott's a real smooth talker and while I would consider myself a rather intelligent individual, I got taken for over $50,000 of which my wife and I have pretty much written off. After all, if Scott only paid $500 to us while we were partners, he really has no incentive to pay us now. Scott doesn't own his house or his vehicles, so even if we sued Scott we wouldn't get anything because he doesn't own anything we could put a lien on.

Scott talks big about how much trainer's are making. The fact of the matter is none of the trainer's currently working with Etail have been there over 5 months, and no one is even making close to $80K a year let alone $160K. The only person making that kind of money is Scott and most of that is from people signing up to be trainers, paying him $4,580.

I would like to point something else out, the business was a legal business, and the business was a viable business and not a scam. If run correctly it was a win - win for everyone involved. The recruits got great training in a new industry; dealerships got good, trained, committed employees, the trainers made money and the company made money. While Scott and I were partners Etail Experts was a legitimate business, we had trainers in the field doing classes on a regular basis, some of the classes we setup and some of them they setup. We had telemarketers setting up the interviews, and it was a win-win for everyone except the company, because I gave trainers anywhere between 8 and 20 manual credits, and many times I did not make them pay a booking fee. However, once we had some good trainers in the field and doing a good job the company would have started to make more money on the backend, (meaning the override) than we did by signing up trainers.

I have done everything by the letter of the law, and I have gone out of my way to try to make sure no one got hurt in this deal. I completely walked away from the company so Scott could keep it going and the trainers could keep working, I walked away from $85,000, - $30,000 in cash that I put into the company, Over $21,000 that is on a corporate card that I am personally liable for that Scott did not take over, $8,900 that Scott took out of the company that wasn't owed to him, and over $20,000 in credit card debt that Scott ran up on credit cards that again, Angela and I are personally liable for. I am currently paying on over $40,000 of credit card debt every month because of this deal. I made $22,000 while Scott and I were partners and I put over $30,000 in cash into the company, so I actually paid over $8000 in cash to work with Scott and be his partner not to mention all the debt he's run up. Scott never once took less than he was owed to help make payroll or cover bills, and he actually took more money than he was owed, and he did 8 deals himself and kept every dime from those deals.
Legally I could have just closed the corporation and everyone would have been out of work, however, Scott would have sued me and I would have to spend good money after bad just to defend myself. Because, Scott was not willing to walk away from the company. Scott and I could have split the company in two and both kept doing the same thing, which would have just created competition and no one would have made very much money. Instead of taking one of those options, I walked away because, it seemed like the least likely way the trainers would get hurt. Not to mention the fact that Scott originally had the business, and I don't need to do that business to make a living, I can do other things. It seemed like the only fair thing to do and in my opinion a very unselfish thing to do.

I guarantee you that I have more character, integrity and honesty than Scott will ever have; I have never, hurt anyone on purpose and have done everything in this whole ordeal to try to keep people from getting hurt, including Scott. I tried to make the transition to Scott as seamless and painless as possible. I actually loaded the cubicles and stuff from the office that we split and delivered it to Scott. I transferred everything into his name; I uploaded the website to his server for him and helped him in numerous other ways to make this transition as seamless as possible. I even went as far as talking some of our employees into driving to Frisco everyday to work, so Scott could be up and running immediately. I have notified existing trainers to be careful with their dealings with Scott, I have not told them not to work with Scott just be careful and know what he's done to me. I have notified potential new trainers to do their due diligence before they invest in this business, knowing that all of this would get back to Scott and he would refuse to pay me the $55,000 he agreed to. Which he notified via a voicemail that he would not be paying the $55,000 he agreed to and if I contacted any trainers, not only would he not pay me but he would also sue me. In his own words he said he's got absolutely nothing to lose and I have everything to lose. And you know what he's absolutely right, I own my house, vehicles and boat, we have good credit and a good reputation. Scott on the other hand does not have any of those things. Even if I sued him and got a judgment for the money he owes, it wouldn't do any good, because without any assets we couldn't go after anything.

I just spent two hours at the Denison Police Department and on the phone with the Grayson County DA's office last week to see if there was anything that I could go after Scott for criminally and they said it was all a civil matter.

If you want some independent information go to ripoffreport.com and do a search on Anthony Scott Tubbs and CSCS. You can also google Anthony Scott Tubbs and you will see that Scott Tubbs had pled guilty in April 1999 to the felony crime of arson with intent to defraud. Scott did get a pardon but he was still convicted and pled guilty.

I have financials and certified loan documents, and other documents to prove all my statements. I can also provide anyone with plenty of current and past trainers that you can speak with who will give you a character reference on Anthony Scott Tubbs.

Bottom Line: I would highly recommend that you are diligent and careful in your dealings with Anthony Scott Tubbs.

To Anthony Scott Tubbs, I know you will read this. I'm really tired of your excuses and lies; I'm no longer going to pretend we are friends, because a friend would not do me like you have. You have done nothing but take advantage of our generosity from Day 1. We gave you credit cards to use, which you abused and didn't pay for. I loaned you money from the company which actually came out of my pocket. I helped you buy that Corvette, which was personally guaranteed by me, and loaned you my Suburban for a week when you went on your trip because all you had was the Corvette. We loaned you money to buy the TV and surround sound system, of which we had to take so we would get something, since you only paid $500 in 6 months on the account. I put you on almost all of our credit cards to help rebuild your credit. The list goes on and on. You always complain about what a mooch Bryant Dowden is and that he never does anything for you, that you do everything for him, and now you've put me in the same position. I've done nothing but be nice, generous, honest and helpful to you throughout our relationship and you pay me back by lying to me on numerous occasions and not fulfilling your promises to pay us back.

I've handed the company over to you (which I didn't have to do) (which had great credit) (which you're about to destroy with all of those credit lines you've opened) so you could make a living and not have to start from scratch, and I'm doing something completely different so as to not create competition for you. And you can't even make good on a check you said I would only have to hold for a week! Then, when there is enough money to cover it, you threaten to sue the bank for cashing it, when it was a completely legal transaction. There is nothing wrong with me making a deposit for you, and there is nothing wrong with me cashing a check which you wrote to me and I've been holding for 3 weeks now. I did let the bank reverse the transaction, not to help you out, but to not put the bank manager in the middle.

You've always said that you were more worried about the money I invested in the company than I am--and what a load of crap that is, since you took the majority of the money I've invested in the company. And if you were truly worried about paying me back you wouldn't go get a lease on a new Lexus which just increases your monthly expenditures. You have two brand new vehicles through the company already; how many do you need?! I can lay my head on the pillow at night and sleep, knowing that I haven't screwed anyone over. Can you? Of course you can, because you don't care about anyone but yourself. You proved that when you took money out of the payroll account, knowing everyone's check would bounce. Not to mention, doing it while we were gone to a family reunion, 700 miles away. Granted you put it back, however, you should have never taken it in the first place, because you knew the situation we were in.

I should have known from the very beginning that anyone that would cheat on his wife isn't going to have any loyalties to me. When you went to Florida to see your girlfriend and put charges on the credit card instead of paying me I should have said something. When you got cash advances to gamble instead of paying me I should have said something, but I never did. I blame me more than you for this situation, all the signs where there telling me not to trust you but I wanted to and I bought into your line of crap. I should have never partnered with you and should have never trusted you to make good on the money we loaned you. You always said no matter what, you would pay the credit card we let you use, and not only did you not pay it but you managed to run it up over $3,000 above the credit limit which made our minimum payment $3,500! You didn't care that I had to come up with money out of my own pocket; you didn't want to be put out by living up to your promises.

You are also telling the trainers that you aren't going to honor their contract because you weren't an owner when they were signed and you know that is also a bold faced lie. You know you can't have your cake and eat it too; if you tell them their contract isn't legally binding you cannot stop them from doing it on their own.

I understand that this posting is going to upset you because most people don't like hearing the truth. I'm okay with that, the time for being nice and pretending everything's going to be okay is over. My wife didn't want me to post this because it might upset you and keep you from paying us but I told her that it won't make a difference one way or the other---either he's going to stand up for his word and show some character and integrity or he's not, and that is his choice, not ours. In the numerous voicemail threats you have already left us you stated you wouldn't pay us anyway.

P.S. the next time you decide to post unfounded statements about me, why don't you try to be more creative in your lies, instead of lying about things that you know can absolutely be verified as false accusations.

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AUTHOR: Chris R. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, October 02, 2008

Venting my frustration online was a poor choice to go about getting back at Scott. I see that now, and I regret what I've done. Scott allowed me to buy into the company as C.E.O., but the company always belonged to Scott. I was COMPLETELY bitter after being bought out of my share of Etail; who isn't mad when they leave their company? I was outraged when he did end up doing so; you can see that just by reading my first post. Putting up a faade was a bad idea, J.P. Anderson was simply a way for me to vent because I knew no better way to do so.

Anyone in my position would be angry with their partner. A partnership in a company is like a marriage but worse. I just took it a step too far in the end. I wasn't thinking about the repercussions of what I was doing, because you don't think when you are angry. I am retracting my previous statement, because I realize how I responded was over the line. Scott is out there to help people, but I was mad and could care less when I wrote my last comment. I was a successful trainer before I was brought in as C.E.O. I ended up taking shortcuts though, and caused Scott to lose a lot of money because of it. Time has allowed me to reflect on what happened, and now I see.

The comments here have forced us to court, where Scott won the case for slander. As part of the agreement, I told Scott that I would retract my bogus statements on the website. I guess I did what I intended to in the first place, which was attempting to ruin Scott because I ended up out of the company.
When I worked with Scott, we had as many as 30 trainers at a time working deals. People were making real money, so was I when I was a trainer for Etail. Why else would I have bought into the company? Rage is a dirty creature though, and it drove me to do everything I could in my power to take down my ex partner.
Scott, I know you read my last comment, and I know you were pissed.

I know an apology isn't going to fix the hell I've put you through, but it's the best I can do. I was out of line, hopefully we can sit down and have a drink sometime and get back to where we used to be. Please, let us try and get over our differences. I wish the best for you, your company, and your future trainers. Give me a call when you read this, I know you still have my number.

Chris R.
Former C.E.O. of Etail Experts

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AUTHOR: Chris R. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, October 02, 2008

Venting my frustration online was a poor choice to go about getting back at Scott. I see that now, and I regret what I've done. Scott allowed me to buy into the company as C.E.O., but the company always belonged to Scott. I was COMPLETELY bitter after being bought out of my share of Etail; who isn't mad when they leave their company? I was outraged when he did end up doing so; you can see that just by reading my first post. Putting up a faade was a bad idea, J.P. Anderson was simply a way for me to vent because I knew no better way to do so.

Anyone in my position would be angry with their partner. A partnership in a company is like a marriage but worse. I just took it a step too far in the end. I wasn't thinking about the repercussions of what I was doing, because you don't think when you are angry. I am retracting my previous statement, because I realize how I responded was over the line. Scott is out there to help people, but I was mad and could care less when I wrote my last comment. I was a successful trainer before I was brought in as C.E.O. I ended up taking shortcuts though, and caused Scott to lose a lot of money because of it. Time has allowed me to reflect on what happened, and now I see.

The comments here have forced us to court, where Scott won the case for slander. As part of the agreement, I told Scott that I would retract my bogus statements on the website. I guess I did what I intended to in the first place, which was attempting to ruin Scott because I ended up out of the company.
When I worked with Scott, we had as many as 30 trainers at a time working deals. People were making real money, so was I when I was a trainer for Etail. Why else would I have bought into the company? Rage is a dirty creature though, and it drove me to do everything I could in my power to take down my ex partner.
Scott, I know you read my last comment, and I know you were pissed.

I know an apology isn't going to fix the hell I've put you through, but it's the best I can do. I was out of line, hopefully we can sit down and have a drink sometime and get back to where we used to be. Please, let us try and get over our differences. I wish the best for you, your company, and your future trainers. Give me a call when you read this, I know you still have my number.

Chris R.
Former C.E.O. of Etail Experts

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AUTHOR: Chris R. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, October 02, 2008

Venting my frustration online was a poor choice to go about getting back at Scott. I see that now, and I regret what I've done. Scott allowed me to buy into the company as C.E.O., but the company always belonged to Scott. I was COMPLETELY bitter after being bought out of my share of Etail; who isn't mad when they leave their company? I was outraged when he did end up doing so; you can see that just by reading my first post. Putting up a faade was a bad idea, J.P. Anderson was simply a way for me to vent because I knew no better way to do so.

Anyone in my position would be angry with their partner. A partnership in a company is like a marriage but worse. I just took it a step too far in the end. I wasn't thinking about the repercussions of what I was doing, because you don't think when you are angry. I am retracting my previous statement, because I realize how I responded was over the line. Scott is out there to help people, but I was mad and could care less when I wrote my last comment. I was a successful trainer before I was brought in as C.E.O. I ended up taking shortcuts though, and caused Scott to lose a lot of money because of it. Time has allowed me to reflect on what happened, and now I see.

The comments here have forced us to court, where Scott won the case for slander. As part of the agreement, I told Scott that I would retract my bogus statements on the website. I guess I did what I intended to in the first place, which was attempting to ruin Scott because I ended up out of the company.
When I worked with Scott, we had as many as 30 trainers at a time working deals. People were making real money, so was I when I was a trainer for Etail. Why else would I have bought into the company? Rage is a dirty creature though, and it drove me to do everything I could in my power to take down my ex partner.
Scott, I know you read my last comment, and I know you were pissed.

I know an apology isn't going to fix the hell I've put you through, but it's the best I can do. I was out of line, hopefully we can sit down and have a drink sometime and get back to where we used to be. Please, let us try and get over our differences. I wish the best for you, your company, and your future trainers. Give me a call when you read this, I know you still have my number.

Chris R.
Former C.E.O. of Etail Experts

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Former President & CEO - Etail Experts, Inc. is not a Scam!

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 18, 2008

From Christopher D. Ried Former Owner & President of Etail Experts, Inc. I would like to point something out, the business Etail Experts, Inc is a legal business, and the business is a viable business and not a scam. If run correctly it was a win - win for everyone involved. The recruits get great training in a new industry; dealerships get good, trained, committed employees, the trainers make money and Etail Experts makes money. While Scott and I were partners, we had trainers in the field doing classes on a regular basis, some of the classes we setup and some of them they setup. We had telemarketers setting up the interviews, and it was a win-win for everyone except the company, because I gave trainers anywhere between 8 and 20 manual credits, and many times I did not make them pay a booking fee. However, once we had some good trainers in the field and doing a good job the company would have started to make more money on the backend, (meaning the override) than we did by signing up trainers.

I am by no way saying that the business model itself is a scam, as a matter of fact I didn't post the complaint about Scott Tubbs. I wouldn't have been involved in a company that was a scam, and I have never said it was a scam. The only problem I have ever had was with Scott himself, because when we split he owed me a large sum of money and hadn't paid yet. So I felt like I was scammed by Scott, not the company, however we have worked everything out, since our split.

Anyone considering joining Etail Experts, Inc. as an independent trainer, I would recommend you do your due diligence, get references and call them, make your own decision, don't let someone that has an axe to grind ruin a career opportunity for you, if it's a right fit for you.

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Unsuccessful People mad at the world, Someone has to be blamed

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, September 14, 2008

First off let start by saying, EtailExperts has no trainer in South Carolina and for that matter no one by The name or initials of J.P. so to the person who filed this bogus report (Christopher Ried) you're not as Smart as you think. I did in fact work for WWCS in the past and made a lot of money with that company,
The report I filed against WWCS was intended to get back at them because the new manager Ken Carver
And I had a disagreement and voided my contract and after making six figures for years I felt a punch Below the belt was in order just as my Ex partner Chris Ried does by filing this report against my Company. Etailexperts Inc. is consulting companies we work with new car dealers across the country to Help find, recruit and hire sales people for the prospective dealer, If this were a scam thousands of our Clients would have to be in on it, anyone with half of brain can see this, as for the 500.00 deposit we Collect from our new trainers (by credit card only) it's for those who our 100% certain of becoming one Of our newest trainers and tell us to hold a sport for them in our class as we only have a limited number Space. Let me remind everyone having a merchant credit card account is for business that have been Checked out 100% it's very difficult to get and keep. I would say to anyone who thinks they been Scammed to contact your local state or federal authorities and to use our legal system. In closing EtailExperts has nothing to hide we are registered with the secretary of state's office in Texas in good Standing please fill free to contact them along with any of our clients, the fact of the matter are as Follows, the positions our company has to offer is only for top qualified applicants that have what it Takes to succeed in our industry not for imbeciles who have nothing better to do than point out Grammar errors, If our company is guilty it's only because we were fooled into taken someone on as one Of our trainers that's not qualified, I would ask all that read this to contact me by going to my web site At EtailExperts.com for any questions or concerns you may have, and to J.P. AKA Chris Ried or whoever You are, if you have a problem why not be a MAN about it and contact me so we might solve your issues

Scott Tubbs
Frisco Texas

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Unsuccessful People mad at the world, Someone has to be blamed

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, September 14, 2008

First off let start by saying, EtailExperts has no trainer in South Carolina and for that matter no one by The name or initials of J.P. so to the person who filed this bogus report (Christopher Ried) you're not as Smart as you think. I did in fact work for WWCS in the past and made a lot of money with that company,
The report I filed against WWCS was intended to get back at them because the new manager Ken Carver
And I had a disagreement and voided my contract and after making six figures for years I felt a punch Below the belt was in order just as my Ex partner Chris Ried does by filing this report against my Company. Etailexperts Inc. is consulting companies we work with new car dealers across the country to Help find, recruit and hire sales people for the prospective dealer, If this were a scam thousands of our Clients would have to be in on it, anyone with half of brain can see this, as for the 500.00 deposit we Collect from our new trainers (by credit card only) it's for those who our 100% certain of becoming one Of our newest trainers and tell us to hold a sport for them in our class as we only have a limited number Space. Let me remind everyone having a merchant credit card account is for business that have been Checked out 100% it's very difficult to get and keep. I would say to anyone who thinks they been Scammed to contact your local state or federal authorities and to use our legal system. In closing EtailExperts has nothing to hide we are registered with the secretary of state's office in Texas in good Standing please fill free to contact them along with any of our clients, the fact of the matter are as Follows, the positions our company has to offer is only for top qualified applicants that have what it Takes to succeed in our industry not for imbeciles who have nothing better to do than point out Grammar errors, If our company is guilty it's only because we were fooled into taken someone on as one Of our trainers that's not qualified, I would ask all that read this to contact me by going to my web site At EtailExperts.com for any questions or concerns you may have, and to J.P. AKA Chris Ried or whoever You are, if you have a problem why not be a MAN about it and contact me so we might solve your issues

Scott Tubbs
Frisco Texas

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Unsuccessful People mad at the world, Someone has to be blamed

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, September 14, 2008

First off let start by saying, EtailExperts has no trainer in South Carolina and for that matter no one by The name or initials of J.P. so to the person who filed this bogus report (Christopher Ried) you're not as Smart as you think. I did in fact work for WWCS in the past and made a lot of money with that company,
The report I filed against WWCS was intended to get back at them because the new manager Ken Carver
And I had a disagreement and voided my contract and after making six figures for years I felt a punch Below the belt was in order just as my Ex partner Chris Ried does by filing this report against my Company. Etailexperts Inc. is consulting companies we work with new car dealers across the country to Help find, recruit and hire sales people for the prospective dealer, If this were a scam thousands of our Clients would have to be in on it, anyone with half of brain can see this, as for the 500.00 deposit we Collect from our new trainers (by credit card only) it's for those who our 100% certain of becoming one Of our newest trainers and tell us to hold a sport for them in our class as we only have a limited number Space. Let me remind everyone having a merchant credit card account is for business that have been Checked out 100% it's very difficult to get and keep. I would say to anyone who thinks they been Scammed to contact your local state or federal authorities and to use our legal system. In closing EtailExperts has nothing to hide we are registered with the secretary of state's office in Texas in good Standing please fill free to contact them along with any of our clients, the fact of the matter are as Follows, the positions our company has to offer is only for top qualified applicants that have what it Takes to succeed in our industry not for imbeciles who have nothing better to do than point out Grammar errors, If our company is guilty it's only because we were fooled into taken someone on as one Of our trainers that's not qualified, I would ask all that read this to contact me by going to my web site At EtailExperts.com for any questions or concerns you may have, and to J.P. AKA Chris Ried or whoever You are, if you have a problem why not be a MAN about it and contact me so we might solve your issues

Scott Tubbs
Frisco Texas

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