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Complaint Review: Armbrust Real Estate Institute d/b/a AREI Colorado - Greenwood Village Colorado

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  • Armbrust Real Estate Institute d/b/a AREI Colorado 7100 East Belleview Avenue # 311 Greenwood Village, Colorado USA

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I signed up with Armbrust  Real Estate Institute (AREI) to get my Colorado Real Estate License because they had the highest pass rate on the state exam. Only after sinking $1,000.00 into the course and wasting months of my life did I realize why they had the highest score on the exam.

 

In order to pass the pre-licensing course and get the REC 33 certificate you need to take the real exam, you have to pass the AREI practice exam. I am a college graduate of the University of Colorado and have done graduate study so I am pretty smart and a good test taker. So, when I failed the first practice exam by like 3 points I was pretty upset. However, I thought maybe I just needed to study a little harder and I would pass the second time. A few weeks later I again failed the exam by like 2 points.

 

I have come to realize that, based on my subjective observations, less than half of the people that go through the AREI class pass their practice exams and therefore are even able to take the real exam. AREI makes the test unreasonably difficult and nearly impossible to pass. After thinking about why this was I could only come to the conclusion that it is a result of Patrick Armbrust’s greed.

 

You see, Patrick makes money by charging students $399 to take the class for a second time plus $30/hour for tutoring. So, it is to Patrick’s financial benefit, as owner of AREI, to fail as many students as possible so that he can collect another $399 plus tutoring fees. As a fringe benefit of his financial scheme, his high pass rates due to weeding so many people out make his school look like it is the best when judged by pass rate.

 

So, obviously I recommend you stay away from AREI. Patrick is a scam artist who doesn’t care about your success, only your money. Consider yourself warned.

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#8 Consumer Comment

Don't blame the school for your personal failure

AUTHOR: Hailey - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, September 04, 2017

 I attended Armbrust as well. I took night classes while working full time and caring for an infant. I went to Arizona State University and was preparing for law school when I got pregnant with my daughter. I never finished college and I have no degree. When studying at Armbrust the instructors and Patrick himself were available to answer all my questions. I paid attention in class, took thurough notes, and studied when I had the time. It is true that the final exam is harder than the state exam. This is done to prepare you for your exam so you can go in with confidence. I passed the final the first time I took it, in half the allotted time. And I went on to pass the state and national portion of the licensing exam months later, with what I had learned at Armbrust firmly in my mind BECAUSE of the intensity of the course. Please do not let one students failure to pass a test (a personal failure) taint the image of this school. They taught me more than just how to pass a test, they taught me how to run my business and my personal investments. I was recruited by the top team in the Coldwell Banker office in DTC (the top office for my company in the Denver Metro area) because of the skills and knowledge I acquired at Armbrust.

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#7 Consumer Comment

My days at Armbrust (with a 40 oz in the fridge)

AUTHOR: Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, November 07, 2016

Some years ago I took the real estate course at Armbrust.   The test at the end of the program is hard, but if you study you will do alright on the test.  I passed on my first try.  My score could have been better, but none-the-less I passed and went on to pass the "big" test and got my state license.   

 

Out of sheer boredom I wanted to see if Armbrust was still around, sure enough it is.  

 

I happened upon this rip off report and was amused by it to say the least. 

 

Then I noticed something odd, you'll notice every post is date stamped.  You'll notice the first post was made on Oct 6th, 2013.  That’s the kid that is upset and he is a "college boy" and he doesn't normally fail  blah blah blah   who cares right?

 

WRONG

 

There were 6 rebuttals made

 

2 were made on December 10th, 2013---- in support of Armbrust 

2 were made on December 11th, 2013 -----  in support of Armbrust

 

on December 20th, 2013 the op "College boy" changed course, totally different tune now. Supports Armbrust … just strange text, hidden context.  Clearly not the same person typing it.  

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…..If students cannot pass he charges them extra to re-take the class because it costs him extra time and resources, not because he is greedy or a bad person. This was a mischarecterzation that I would like to take back.

 

……I highly reccomend the education you receive at Armbrust.

 

 

 then 6 weeks later "someone else" comes along to support Armbrust.  Since then its been crickets 

 

You mean to tell me that in a 48 hour period (December 10th and 11th 2013) , four random people, past students and real estate eilite happend to come across the website and post rebuttals in support of Armbrust?????  Then 10 days later "college boy" posted about how great this program is and 6 weeks later there is one last post and that it is?   

 

FOUR INDEPENDENT POST IN A 48 HOUR BLOCK OF TIME????

What a load of BULL    what Patrick didn't count on is that this crap is all date stamped, he didn't realize that making 4 post over the span of 2 business days would be logged as such, forever.

I have lost my faith in the program.  Real estate is a dirty business anyways and will one day cease to exist.  You'll buy and sell houses with online services.  I don't have an insurance agent, I get my home and auto insurance via the Internet.  

I moved on to a respectful career, right now you can make a lot of money in real estate but it wasn't for me. 

 

WATCH IN 6 DAYS OR 6 MONTHS I MYSELF WILL RETRACT THS STATEMENT----- kidding, I will never retract this state.  Any statement that seems to do such is an attempt by Patrick himself.  

 

Its right around midnight going from November 7th to November 8th, 2016. Check that date stamp.  Today we find out if Clinton or Trump won. 

 

#di**outsforHarambe

 

It takes a dirty businessman to post fake reviews.  Patrick doesn't care about if you do well or not, Patrick just wants your money.  Real State is a shady business.

 

 ---What the hell do you know about surfing, Major? You're from god***ned New Jersey!

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#6 Consumer Comment

Armbrust The Best!

AUTHOR: Jean - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, February 05, 2014

Years ago I owned one of the largest independently owned real estate companies in the Denver metro area. At that time one of my main objectives was to hire new agents. I loved the agents  that had been students of the  Armbrust school. They came out of that school with more knowledge than the normal.  Mr Armbrust is an outstanding member of the Denver Real Estate community. I suggest the gentleman who filed the original report here take a look at himself. It's very obvious to me that he couldn't take the rejection of failing a test. It also seems like perhaps he thought he might be too intelligent to have to study to pass the test.  The real estate state exam is no easy task for anyone. I would say your chances of passing are a lot higher after having gone through the Armbrust school because they do care an awful lot about their students and their rating.  I happened to stumble across this website and this particular complaint. It absolutely made me furious.  I sincerely hope that the author of this complaint never ended up practicing real estate in the Denver metro area. I know iI as an agent surely would not want to have to deal with him on any of my transactions!

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#5 Author of original report

I retract my statements, Armbrust is good school

AUTHOR: Armbrust is good School - ()

POSTED: Friday, December 20, 2013

 

Although my expereince with Armbrust Real Estate School was that I did not pass, I was way too critical with my opinion of the school and of Patrick Armbrust. Patrick Armbrust is an excellent teacher and makes the course challanging beause he wants his students to succeed. If students cannot pass he charges them extra to re-take the class because it costs him extra time and resources, not because he is greedy or a bad person. This was a mischarecterzation that I would like to take back. This website will not let me take my original review down but I wish I could. Patrick is a man trying to teach real estate while competeing with the needs of a business. I respect him for that.

The education at Armbrust Real Estate Insititute is Excellent.

Patrick Armbrust is an excellent teacher.

In summary, I misconstrued the facts about Armbrust to reach the wrong conclusion. If you study hard you will likely pass and Armbrust will provide you an excellent education. If you do not study hard and have to pay to take the course again, it is probably because you did not put much effort in the first time. I did not put as much effort in as I should have and therefore I deserved to have to pay to re-take the course agter failing the exam.

I have come to learn that my subjective opinion that not many people pass the course is false.

I highly reccomend the education you receive at Armbrust.

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#4 General Comment

AREI

AUTHOR: Matthew T - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, December 11, 2013

I'm in the school now taking the courses and I've found that the teachers are very helpful. I will be taking my final test in the next two weeks and I know I have to study to pass the test, blaming the teachers for you not passing is a far stretch, there is a lot of information and studying is the only way.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Totally disagree!

AUTHOR: C. P. - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, December 11, 2013

I attended this school, passed their exam successfully, and then passed the state exam without a glitch.  I was glad they made their tests and exams so rigorous, so that I could go into the state exam with confidence.   

This school is only for those that are really serious about studying and learning the material.  I don't think just because someone has prior school experience that it qualifies them to deride an exam preparation system that has been well-known and respected in the industry for decades!  Not everyone is cut out for this industry, and Armbrust confronts that fact head on by making their curriculum reflect the demands of the industry.

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#2 Consumer Comment

The Complaint is not Supported by the Record

AUTHOR: Dale B. - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, December 10, 2013

I am a recent graduate of Armbrust Real Estate Institute and am in complete disagreement with the filed complaint.  In fact, my experience was nothing like what is described in this complaint.    

I would strongly recommend AREI to anyone and know that the entire staff was absolutely invested in my successful completion of the course.  They take pride in having the highest first time exam passage rate of all schools in the state.  To insure success of students, they have developed a complete and in depth curriculum and employ a top notch teaching staff of long time successful real estate professionals to work with the students.  I can say with the upmost confidence that the level of instructor talent and sophisticated strategic teaching approach is not reflective of a group that would be aiming at student failure...they could do that with a lot less effort and cost expended.   

I see that the complaint talks about passing the Armbrust final exam before being given the certificate needed to take the formal national/state test.  The Armbrust Final Exam is very similar to what would be provided as the formal exam (my Armbrust scores were very similar to my formal exam scores).  Inability to pass this exam probably means that you either have not done the necessary study or that you have not adequately absorbed the information and concepts to be ready to pass the national/state exam.  In my opinion, if you can't pass the Armbrust test, it is unlikely that you will pass the formal national/state test without getting lucky by guessing right on enough questions.  

Personally, I think it is a good thing for the consumer that there is a compitency gate at AREI to prevent people who cannot pass the Armbrust test (I passed it easily) from being able to go straight to the state, get lucky by guessing correctly enough, then subjecting the general public to at least borderline incompitence in conducting real estate transactions worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

It was apparent to me that local employing brokers are also impressed with the Armbrust approach to preparing their students as they come to the school and pitch their opportunities for new agents on a regular basis.

Through AREI, I received an outstanding educational foundation to enter the real estate industry and they will continue to be a valuable knowledge resource for me as I establish my presence in the industry.  

 

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#1 General Comment

Couldn't disagree more

AUTHOR: John A - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, December 10, 2013

I have known Patrick Armbrust as an educator for the better part of 10 years. Patrick's primary goal is to provide the best opportunity to succeed not just with passing an exam but to learn the basics of real estate. The course for real estate pre-licensing in challangeing. Colorado Law and Rules expect more from those in the industry than many other States. As a result the course is more challenging. The instructions given in the classroom supports the necessary reading that each student must also do to gain the specific knowledge necessary to achieve a positive result on the state exam. The final exam at the school is challenging. When you can successfully complete the schools final exam you are ready to take the State Exam. Those students that faithfully do the required classroom and outside reading succeed without any further instruction. Those that do not do the Classroom and OUTSIDE READING experience difficuly. The successes of the many students that have complerted the course and passed the final State Exam are living testimony to the level of credibility of the AREI School and specifically Patrick Armbrust!

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