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Complaint Review: Bankrupcty Auto Financing, Inc. - Internet

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  • Reported By: A Mom in NY — Nyack New York United States of America
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  • Bankrupcty Auto Financing, Inc. Internet United States of America

Bankrupcty Auto Financing, Inc. Fundingway.com, BAF.com, bankruptyautofinancing.com; Auto Credit Express Bait and Switch Internet

*Consumer Comment: Agree with other commentators

*Consumer Comment: Unreal,but not surprised

*Consumer Suggestion: Where is the trustee???

*Consumer Comment: Advise

*Consumer Comment: Really?

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Because I am currently in Bankruptcy, I applied online for a loan through a website called Bankruptcy Auto Financing, which I understand has several different aliases and several different similar looking websites.  Within minutes, I received this email from a dealer informing me that my application was approved and the bank had guaranteed financing for up to $23,000 with 0 down (interestingly exactly the same terms that the previous poster was quoted).  I confirmed this fact with her on the phone and she assured me that I was approved, and that all I needed to do was bring in my license,  2 pay stubs and a utility bill.  Upon further discussion, she advised that I bring my husband along to be a co-applicant because his credit was better.  I did realize that because my Chapter 7 is not discharged yet, that this may present a problem, but according to the BAF website, certain dealerships are able to work with this.  Interestingly, on some parts of the website (or under certain aliases) it says the bankruptcy must be discharged, while other versions simply say the 341 meeting must have been completed, which it had) I assumed that since the dealer had contacted me and already done a credit check and spoken to the bank, that this was not a problem.

My husband and I packed our kids in the car and drove the half hour to the dealership.  Although there are many dealers in our area, including one right around the corner from our house that does "special financing", we went out of our way to come to this one because I was under the impression that she were going to be able to help me in my special situation.

When we arrived, I met the salesperson that called me briefly and then was passed us on to another salesperson who showed us the car and had us do the paperwork.  I got the impression that she was unaware of our situation and in fact I was a little dismayed at all the paperwork.  It seemed that we were in fact starting from scratch with the credit application and that the online application I filled out was not at all relevant.  We might as well have just walked in off of the street and filled out an application.  After a long, long wait, it turned out that we were not approved for the loan after all because of my open bankruptcy, despite her initial assurances that I was.  We spoke to the finance manager who told us that we could apply for the loan if we did it just in my husband's name (and he hadn't even applied online at all).  We declined and decided to wait until my bankruptcy is discharged because the whole point of getting the car in my name was to begin to repair my credit.  We ended up leaving (after having been at the dealership about 2 hours) and had to explain to our kids why we were not bringing home a new car. 

The whole experience was a huge waste of time and was very humiliating.  I was under the impression that the application I filled out online would help me avoid a situation like this; I could have just walked over to my local "special financing" dealer and saved a lot of time.  To make matters worse, my husband and I just received a letter from Wells Fargo Bank informing us that they had rejected our application for a variety of reasons.  Since the bankruptcy was not even mentioned in the letter , it seems that my husband's credit was also rejected and we would not have been able to obtain the loan after all, so what was the point of filling out this online application?

I realize now that my online application for "Bankruptcy Auto Financing" was merely just a sales lead for this dealer- I was just another sucker with bad credit.   I had thought I was walking in to the dealer pre-approved, but in fact I was not at all, so the online application was useless.  If I had known that I would not be approved, I would not have bothered to make the trip, and I certainly would not have dragged my kids along.  I wrote letters of complaint to both the dealer and to BAF or whatever it is called, but of course nobody got back to me.



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#5 Consumer Comment

Agree with other commentators

AUTHOR: Matthew McGinley - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, January 12, 2012

I could understand getting an auto loan under Chapter 13 (difficult, but not impossible), but not under Chapter 7. I agree with other reviewers, it is not the prudent thing to do.  Chapter 7 is liquidation, meaning, "I am not able to pay my bills so I am willing to surrender my non-exempt assets to satisfy my creditors."  I've had a Chapter 7, and it is a last resort, not an instant solution.  For what it's worth, I would suggest gathering $1,000 to $2,000 and just buying a good-running car without payments.  The whole point of Chapter 7 is to get a fresh start, and during the time that it is open, about 6 months total, there should be no need for additional credit.  Chapter 13 is a wage-earner plan, meaning creditors will (usually) get something back.  Chapter 7 discharges eligible debts, and is final.  It also implies, "don't loan me any money for at least three to seven years."

Otherwise, what happens is a repeat cycle of increased debt load not congruent with income, which also means the creditors will have to charge off the discharged debt, which means they lose money, which affects their employees, e.g., bankruptcy affects us all.  It's a symbiont circle.  Once you get a fresh start, you should not make the same mistakes again!  I cannot believe your attorney or whoever your counselor is would recommend trying to get an auto loan so close to a Chapter 7. Not good advice.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Unreal,but not surprised

AUTHOR: Matt - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 14, 2010

     This is the mindset of allot of these types. Cant pay the bills they have, go deep into debt, have about 50 kids and then go Bankrupt. Beat everyone out of whats owed and can actually justify it! Then do it again. Only this is a new twist! Attempting to get credit while still in Bankruptcy! I love the part where they had to tell their kids why they weren't driving home in a new car! Well just tell your kids your both deadbeats and cheat people out of money! And the bad sales manager didn't want to get cheated by you! They will understand, They probably already know it. 

     I really hope this is some kind of scam and you get that loan for like 90% APR,That is,  "After" your bankruptcy is settled!
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Where is the trustee???

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 14, 2010

You have a PENDING bankruptcy, chapter 7, and you're attempting to open NEW CREDIT????  And for $23000 no less!!!  Astounding!!!

Did you inform the court appointed trustee of this?  As part of any bankruptcy proceeding that is PENDING you are REQUIRED to have the court's PERMISSION before establishing any NEW CREDIT!

What did your attorney (who is representing you during your bankruptcy) say about this?

Also, you are required to take mandatory consumer credit counseling as part of the bankruptcy proceedings.  WHO was the certified couselor that advised you to do this?

Unbelievable!

 

 

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#2 Consumer Comment

Advise

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 13, 2010

You will have a discharged Bankruptcy.

Forget any dealer or bank that says you are approved for 0 down...it will not happen.  Even if you drive off the lot thinking it is 0 down, they probably will do what is known as a "Spot Delivery" and will be calling you back in a few days telling you that they need money or are putting you in different terms.  If you can get out with a downpayment in the 10-20% range be glad.  If you get one for less than 10% down consider yourself very lucky.

Also seriously forget about a 23,000 car right now.  The interest rate you will be approved for is going to be anywhere from the mid to high teens, and may even hit the 20% range.  Depending on the downpayment and length of the loan this would put your payments in the $450-$700(+) range per month.

If your goal to get the car was to strictly rebuild your credit.  Start with Credit Cards that you pay off every month.  The biggest damage is the first 24 months after the bankruptcy.  So if you can wait until after that to get the car, and build your credit other ways until then, you will get much more favorable terms.

When dealing with a dealer NEVER take your kids..they are just too much of a distraction.  Leave them with a babysitter or relative while you go to the dealer.

 

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#1 Consumer Comment

Really?

AUTHOR: Susan - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, July 12, 2010

You are in bankruptcy, so every one has to pay for what you didn't.

AND, you have the nerve to complain that a company didn't give you a $23,000 loan for a new car?  Really? 

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