Complaint Review: Beneficial Management Corporation - Household Finance - Virginia Beach Virginia
- Beneficial Management Corporation - Household Finance P.O. Box 8873 Virginia Beach, Virginia U.S.A.
- Phone: 800-477-7095
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- Category: Loans
Beneficial Management Corporation - Household Finance Fraudulent Loan Processing & Guerilla Tactics Virginia Beach Virginia
*Consumer Comment: A response from the original poster
*Consumer Comment: I understand....and let me clarify further, I am NOT defending
*Consumer Comment: I am guilty ....
*Consumer Comment: Christy, I appreciate where you are coming from....
*Consumer Comment: Shame on you Angelina! Beneficial AKA Household Finance is a PREDATORY LENDER.
*Consumer Comment: Just in regards to the bankruptcy issue here....
*Consumer Comment: Just in regards to the bankruptcy issue here....
*Consumer Comment: Just in regards to the bankruptcy issue here....
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This is a copy of the letter I am sending certified mail to one of Beneficial's Dept Collectors. I apologize for the length.
At the beginning of December 1998 I was sent a coupon in the mail from Beneficial California, Inc. It was a promotional campaign to offer me a loan. I didn't think they would give me a loan but I called anyway. To my delight they approved me for a loan.
I proceeded to go to my local office and begin the process of filling out the paperwork required. When the loan officer asked about my income I stated that I was receiving Social Security Disability benefits due to being disabled. The loan officer inquired as to the monthly amount and I told her. She stated that because it was such a small amount, she would have to get the OK from her supervisor.
When the young woman returned she asked me if I had any sources of additional income. I stated that I would be attending college in a few short months, but at the time no. I was asked if when I did attend college, would I be receiving any financial aid. I stated yes. I was then asked if I ever babysat, I stated on occasion and the woman asked me what I charged. I stated that I didn't charge because it was for family. The young woman looked at me and said if I was going to charge how much would I ask for. I stated I had no idea. She said that I should charge $ 10.00 @ hour because that is what she used to charge. She then asked me how often I babysat for my family and I stated approximately a total of maybe twenty hours per month. The woman said to please excuse her and that she would be right back. When she returned she stated that there was no problem with me getting a loan.
We finished the paperwork and I was given a check for the amount of $1,264.07.
I made my payments as scheduled and ended up paying off my loan on February 5th, 1999 in the amount of $1,405.00.
Wanting to purchase a vehicle I inquired about applying for a second loan. I was told since I was such a good customer, it wouldn't be a problem.
So on February 24th, 1999 I procured my second loan from Beneficial. The amount was for $ 4,668.98.
I made my payments as scheduled and paid this loan off on April 6th, 1999 for the amount of $ 4,070.54.
Then I turned around and acquired yet a third loan. I was wrong in thinking that I could use this practice to build my credit score. This loan was in the amount of $ 6,416.17. The only difference with this loan was that now I needed a co-signer.
My mother agreed to co-sign since I hadn't had any problems paying my other loans and since I hadn't had any problems with Beneficial, she didn't foresee any problems.
During the month of October 2000 I was having some financial problems. I didn't want my mother to have to help me pay the loan so I asked about refinancing my loan. My loan balance at this time was $ 5,197.18. This amount was refinanced and my new balance became $ 6,404.31. I was basically back to the beginning but at least I could keep paying my loan without any problems.
I was very wrong!
Everything went fine until April 2002. My family and I moved to Florida from California. Prior to leaving in April, I went to my local office made my payment and said my good-byes. (It's worth noting that when I refinanced my loan there was a completely new staff working at my Beneficial Branch, when I inquired as to the change I was told that everyone had been transferred to new branches. That should have told me something was wrong!)
Towards the end of April my family and I would learn that our furniture had been hijacked by our moving company (Transworld Van lines Corporation dissolved). This company told my family it would cost an extra $4,000 to get our belongings delivered to our home.
(Side note: upon moving to Florida, My mother, sister and I learned that our Social Security benefits would be cut, due to the fact that the state of Florida doesn't contribute to Disability payments, my benefits were decreased by $ 205 per month.)
All of us tried in vain to get TransWorld to deliver our furniture and belongings. We would have no choice but to combine all of our available monies and pay them what they wanted.
I contacted Beneficial to tell them about my cut in Social Security Disability benefits and the furniture fiasco. I stated to the representative that I would have to make a smaller payment in May. I was told that under no circumstances would I be allowed to do this! I was very upset and then asked the representative if I could re-age my loan and have May's payment bumped the end of my loan. I was told that Beneficial no longer re-aged loans.
I asked this woman if I could speak to a supervisor and was promptly hung up on. I called back and went through the same song and dance with the next representative. I told this gentleman that I didn't know why Beneficial was treating me this way. I was a good customer who always paid on time and always paid what was owed. I had even paid off my previous loans early. This gentleman said he didn't have access to my previous loans and could only comment on my current one.
After asking him if I could speak to a supervisor, he stated that he was the supervisor. I told him that I would be sending what I could. He asked how much and I told him $25.00. He said that would be fine.
After sending the payment I received it back within two weeks. When I called Beneficial I was told that I had signed a contract to pay $ 205.00 per month and that is what they wanted. I once again told my story and was once again told that a smaller payment wasn't acceptable. I stated once again that I would send what I could. On three separate occasions over the next four months I attempted to send what I could. First was the $ 25, then $ 50 and finally $ 100. All of these payments were sent back to me. I might add that Beneficial never even sent a letter stating why the payments were being sent back.
After each payment was sent back to me I would call Beneficial to ask why and again and again I had to tell my situation. I was treated very rudely and was even called some rather harsh names.
Then the phone calls began. Beneficial not only was calling me and harassing me but they started to call my mother due to her being the primary on the loan. When my mother tried to explain everything to Beneficial she was treated the same way as me except for one exception. Beneficial told my mother that they would attach a lien on her home!
Finally in November of 2002 my mother and step-father had to file for bankruptcy due to their own financial problems. Their attorney told them that since my mother was the primary on the loan she could include it in her bankruptcy, she did so.
February of 2003 the bankruptcy was discharged.
My monthly statements from Beneficial ceased as did any and all phone calls. I assumed that the matter had been dealt with. I was wrong!
I received a letter on May 5th 2004. The letter was from an Anuja Mhatre from Beneficial Management Corporation. The letter stated she was contacting me regarding my defaulted loan and would expect a payment in the amount of $ 5,433.34 no later than 10 days from the date of the letter.
Needless to say I called her. I once again told her everything and let her know that the loan had been included in my mother's bankruptcy. She told me that that was of no consequence to her due to the fact that I was the primary on this loan. I corrected her and she became irate.
After she verbally assaulted me on being a deadbeat and a crook, I hung up!
Two days later I received a phone call from a Kevin Scott. I started the conversation off by telling Mr. Scott that I was tape recording our conversation. He immediately told me that I did not have his permission to do so. I said fine then we don't need to speak. He hung up. (Please note that whenever I stated that I was going to tape record a conversation, I was told that I wasn't given permission to so. So I began telling representatives that I spoke to, that I didn't want my calls recorded either.)
Approximately one week later I received a call from a Mr. Michael Walker. Mr. Walker was very kind and stated that he would like to apologize for they way I had been treated. He inquired as to my disability and when it had first occurred. I answered his questions and he asked me if I had applied for a Disability Claim, I stated that I hadn't.
Mr. Walker stated that he was going to fax me a Disability Claim Form that was to be completed by my attending physician and myself. When I stated that I was in between doctors, but that I had a statement from my former physician stating that I was permanently disabled, he said that would be fine.
Mr. Walker also wanted proof of my monthly benefits from Social Security Disability, a letter that would show how long I had been receiving benefits, a copy of my Temporary or Permanent Total Disability Certification and a copy of the Application for accidental death, dismemberment and loss of sight Insurance policy form that I signed with my very first loan. (Note: Mr. Walker wanted this form due to the fact that I was instructed to answer no to question # 4 even though I was disabled).
I asked Mr. Walker why Beneficial was now saying that I was the primary on this loan when on their own contract my mother was listed as such. He stated that he didn't understand this either but would find out, he was also going to find out why Beneficial was still pursuing me for the loan when it had been discharged in Bankruptcy Court.
I then inquired as to why Beneficial would not take a small payment until I was on my feet. Mr. Walker said that he was able to make such arrangements for others and to state my request on my fax cover sheet.
I filled out the requested forms, typed up my statement and request, and then faxed everything to Mr. Walker.
Three days went by and I hadn't received word from Mr. Walker as to whether or not he received my fax. When I called his number a woman answered and said that Mr. Walker was no longer with that department. The woman asked if she could be of assistance. I gave my account number to her and stated yet again the whole situation. After I finished she asked if I planned on paying my debt. I stated once again that I was in the process of filing a Disability Claim with Mr. Walker, but would be able to make a small payment each month if Beneficial would allow me. She became irate and stated that only the full amount of the loan was acceptable!
I asked for the woman's name and she hung up.
Then on July 14th I received a letter from a Sergio Rodriquez. I started the process all over. Mr. Rodriquez stated that he would file the appropriate Disability Claim papers and that I should fax him everything that I had faxed to Mr. Walker. I did so.
Mr. Rodriquez called a few days later to say that he had received my fax and was processing my claim. One thing that he did say was that he didn't know how I had even obtained my very first loan. I asked him what he meant and he stated that generally Beneficial has a policy against writing loans to individuals on Social Security Disability and that I hadn't even come close to the minimum income standards. He also stated that even with my mother cosigning on my last loan that our combined incomes didn't meet the standards and since she was also receiving Social Security Disability benefits that the loan officer should not of have written the loan.
Mr. Rodriquez was very understanding and quite cordial to me. He stated that he was the last person in the long line of debt collection procedures at Beneficial and that he was personally going to straighten everything out.
After not hearing from Mr. Rodriquez I tried unsuccessfully to contact him. I always received his voicemail or had to leave a message with a representative who would tell me he'll get right back to me.
So much for Mr. Rodriquez!
I hadn't heard anything from Beneficial or any of their bill collectors until now.
On November 19th 2004 I received a letter from your firm. After reading your letter with it's threats of seizure and garnishment, I have decide to seek legal counsel to ascertain if there is enough cause to file a class action lawsuit against Beneficial Management Corporation and Household Finance.
I have spent countless hours reading the stories from others like myself who have been victimized by this company. You can read for yourself their stories at RipoffReport.com.
I am enclosing copies of the faxes that I have had to send.
I will be posting a copy of this letter on RipoffReport.com's website and giving a copy to my attorney.
Please contact me if you have been or are in the same current position. We need to fight these people and the more of us there are to fight, the harder it will be on Beneficial!
J.
Pensacola, Florida
U.S.A.
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#8 Consumer Comment
A response from the original poster
AUTHOR: J.Wesley - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 02, 2004
First of all I would just like to clarify that I am a HE not a she. My mother was the primary, I was the secondary. I would the above piece for Ripoff Report.
That being saidThe fact of the matter is that when I obtained my first loan and was asked the questions about my income, I had no real evidence that something fishy was being done. As I stated the young woman kept leaving the room. I was not privy to her conversations with her boss. It seemed a bit strange to me, but being one of the few people who had never previously obtained a loan from anyone, I wasn't familiar with how things were done.
I do know that it is sometimes common practice for lenders to pad income information at times when they feel a person is a sound borrower.
Also it should be noted that nothing was put down in writing. I was given a copy of my paperwork. It was all blank and when I inquired as to why the paperwork wasn't filled out, I was told that if I should need a filled out copy, all I had to do is ask. I know what a idiot.
In all that paper work, however, there isn't even a section on income.
It should also be noted strongly that I was an excellent customer. I made all my payments as scheduled and even paid off my first two loans early. There wasn't a problem until my third and biggest loan. I was making my payments on that loan as scheduled until my family's financial problems. Then they treated me as if I was a new customer who didn't want to pay my debt.
I also stated that I had tried to make payment arraignments. I don't appreciate being told that I should take some responsibility. I was acting responsible while I made my payments on time, I was responsible when I paid of my first two loans, I was responsible while I made payments on my last loan. And I was being responsible when I called my creditor to inform them of my situation and tried to make payment arraignments.
Beneficial wasn't acting like a responsible company when they decided to try and strong arm a loyal customer. Beneficial wasn't acting responsible when they refused to work with me, so I could responsibly pay my debt.
I think before people make rude comments, they should read carefully to what is being said.

#7 Consumer Comment
I understand....and let me clarify further, I am NOT defending
AUTHOR: Angelina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 01, 2004
the company. I have no personal experience with this company as a customer or employee...I just read this site as kind of an addiction, and in this case, I thought the original poster could have possibly avoided the situation if she had acknowledged her concerns about the falsifying info before taking the money. I take no issue with the other things they did to her...it is obvious that there are some major probs with the company......

#6 Consumer Comment
I am guilty ....
AUTHOR: Christy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
Angelina, please accept my apologies if I sounded a bit harsh. I am guilty of jumping to conclusions as the majority of us are. That being said, I do appreciate your view point.
The only thing I can say in my defense of how I felt as I did is the fact that the treatment that I got from Household (treatment I truly did not deserve) still burns my butt. I have resolved my issues with them however it got way out of hand and finally a threat of legal action before it was taken care of. I fought them on average of several times a week for over 4 months. In the end I can say I dealt with so many different representatives with Household that I lost count long before my issues were resolved. The sad part is that I was told out and out bald faced lies as often as one changes underwear. Even when I presented facts to them in black and white time and again. It could have even been considered comical except it involved nearly $8000 and the fact that I had many times exceeded my payment amount due to them by as much as several hundred dollars yet they refused to acknowledge that my account was up to date. They even went so far as to alter my payment history to attempt to prove me as being behind in my payments.
I had no right to assume that you were speaking as an insider, but if you only knew what I went through you may understand why my rebuttal was so harsh.
Last I should say that the only comments in defense of the company (as I again assumed yours to be) is generaly from a company insider. Hope there are no hard feelings....
Christy
Chatsworth, GA

#5 Consumer Comment
Christy, I appreciate where you are coming from....
AUTHOR: Angelina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
but I think your tone was a bit harsh. First, I do not work for Beneficial, nor have I ever worked for any lender. The reason I commented on the bankruptcy part is because many years ago I worked at as a legal assistant in a law firm that handled bankruptcy cases, so I was going off memory. Now I work as an office manager for a small company.
Perhaps I wasn't clear...I wasn't saying it was her fault for being disabled or for having limited income, but from reading her comments, it seemed she was aware BEFORE taking the money that there were problems with them falsifying info, which is different than many of the other cases I have read about on this site.....I am not denying the Beneficial and many other companies use predatory lending tactics, but I also think people have to take responsibility for their own part in some of these cases, however small that responsibilty may be.

#4 Consumer Comment
Shame on you Angelina! Beneficial AKA Household Finance is a PREDATORY LENDER.
AUTHOR: Christy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 29, 2004
Angelina, with all due respect, did you read any of the other ripoff reports about Beneficial AKA Household Finance?
If you had read just a few of the other reports you would have been ashamed to have commented as to whom was to blame for the problem this poor individual has had concerning Household. If you cannot understand what I am saying then let me put this another way.
Beneficial AKA Household Finance is a PREDATORY LENDER. It would not have mattered if this person was on disability or had no means of income what so ever. Because this company is a PREDATORY LENDER they really were only concerned with trapping one more helpless victim no matter the cost.
Even if you are employed as it seems by this company, at least try to have some compassion. What goes around DOES and WILL come around!!!

#3 Consumer Comment
Just in regards to the bankruptcy issue here....
AUTHOR: Angelina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 29, 2004
I can't speak to the rest of the situation, but I believe if your mother filed a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the debt would be discharged for HER but not for you if you did not also file. If I am wrong, I apologize, but I believe the company can continue to purse a non-filing co-signer regardless of who was primary on the loan.
The other comment I have is that you obviously realized that it was not right for them to be inflating your income, but did that stop you from accepting their money? I realize this company has some major problems, but I think in this case you seemed to be aware of some of the problems prior to the situation escalating and should have reconsidered.
That being said, I wish you the best of luck in your situation.

#2 Consumer Comment
Just in regards to the bankruptcy issue here....
AUTHOR: Angelina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 29, 2004
I can't speak to the rest of the situation, but I believe if your mother filed a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the debt would be discharged for HER but not for you if you did not also file. If I am wrong, I apologize, but I believe the company can continue to purse a non-filing co-signer regardless of who was primary on the loan.
The other comment I have is that you obviously realized that it was not right for them to be inflating your income, but did that stop you from accepting their money? I realize this company has some major problems, but I think in this case you seemed to be aware of some of the problems prior to the situation escalating and should have reconsidered.
That being said, I wish you the best of luck in your situation.

#1 Consumer Comment
Just in regards to the bankruptcy issue here....
AUTHOR: Angelina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 29, 2004
I can't speak to the rest of the situation, but I believe if your mother filed a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the debt would be discharged for HER but not for you if you did not also file. If I am wrong, I apologize, but I believe the company can continue to purse a non-filing co-signer regardless of who was primary on the loan.
The other comment I have is that you obviously realized that it was not right for them to be inflating your income, but did that stop you from accepting their money? I realize this company has some major problems, but I think in this case you seemed to be aware of some of the problems prior to the situation escalating and should have reconsidered.
That being said, I wish you the best of luck in your situation.


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