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Complaint Review: Blubonic Industries Inc - 35% percent food grade hydrogen peroxide BEWARE! - Los Angeles California

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  • Blubonic Industries Inc - 35% percent food grade hydrogen peroxide BEWARE! 1905 Wilcox Ave Ste 311 Los Angeles, California United States

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This warning was on a website. I researched it and everything in the warning is true and REALLY SERIOUS! The website asked people help spread this warning so I'm doing so.   

 "Blubonic Industries Inc." sounds like a major company with production facilities, warehouses, sales staff, technical staff and more, doesn't it? Even more so if there were hundreds of reviews of it, confirming it is 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. Certainly, it must be real 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. Otherwise it couldn't be on Amazon and at the top of the search page. You would think so.

 Would it surprise you to learn all of that is false, a con-job and trickery by someone in a small apartment in L.A. California?      

 If you search Amazon (April 24, 2018) for "35 percent food grade," you will find "Blubonic Industries Inc." food grade hydrogen peroxide. Neither the title nor label state 35% or any concentration, nor does the product description say what concentration it is. Rather, it talks about "indicated" concentration and that the concentration level is what he has determine is "safe" to handle.     

If you scroll down you will see over 400 reviews praising it as 35%. The price is for 35%. All those reviews vouching for it as 35% is VERY impressive, aren't they? Certainly then it is 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide, isn't it?      

No. it is not 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. It is a scam, a lie, and a con-job buy by an apartment-based seller. Amazon does not even allow 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide to be listed. Amazon allows no higher concentration than 12%. This is worth repeating. Not ONE of the product reviews on his Amazon listings - any of them - talking about 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide have ANYTHING to do with what he is selling, nor were they posted in review of what is in the listings. It's just a very skillful trick.     

So how can he claim he is selling 35%? Read this page to understand how so many sellers online now for health and dietary products are getting away with selling bogus, fake and mislabeled products, and/or deceptive ad language for food grade hydrogen peroxide, colloidal silver and other health products online market their bogus products. Learn how they think and how they operate.    

Blubonic Industries Inc. by searching appears to be just is a rental drop box in a UPS store in a run down part of Los Angeles and the "facility" manufacturing it is a small, old Los Angeles apartment.       

Is it 35%? NO! You are being tricked by an unscupulous apartment-based seller. It is not 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide.      

Not ONE of those 35% reviews is for that product on that listing whatsoever. EVERY one of the reviews has NOTHING do to with the product. In fact, Amazon does not even allow 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide to be sold by anyone. 35% is prohibited on Amazon. SO WHY ARE ALL THE REVIEWS ABOUT 35%!!!!      

So what is the actual concentration really? 12%? 6%? 3%? All you know is that it can not be 35%, can not be over 12% by Amazon rules - and rather it is is what ever he says is "safe to handle" - not saying what that is. So it could be 1%. Or 3%. Or 6%. You can not tell from the listing. Yet you are paying as much as $49.95 a bottle for it?       

Does this sound like some pipe dream scheme of a con artist? What does "Blubonic mean? "Blubonic" is a strain of marijuana. So the actual company is the botanical name for "Marijuana Industries." Regardless of a person's opinion on marijuana, would any legitimate company have such a name when it unrelated to marijuana? Rather, it appears he relies upon potential buyers to do no research on him or his business as if a cynical prank.  

"Blubonic marijuana strain is a Sativa dominant marijuana. This bud is a heavyweight when it comes to THC concentration, up to an amazing 26%. Due to such potency, the cannabis provides a strong, long lasting cerebral high, not recommended for first time users.” https://cannasos.com/strains/hybrid/blubonic Search Public Records about Blubonic (Marijuana) Industries Inc. as of April 22, 2018       

Blubonic Industries Inc. is registered to "Jerome John" at 1335 N. La Brea, Los Angeles, California 90028 according to his filing for a trademark. The address is a small apartment complex. Note, no proof of identity is required to file for a trademark. There is no way to now if that is his real or full name.        

His business operation, according to his website, is at 1905 Wilcox Ave, Ste 311, Los Angeles, California 90068. We will show that actual location below from Google street view.        

He given no phone number on his website. Ever heard of "industries" with no phone number?

He has pictures of microscopes, test tubes and an odd picture of an apartment building with smoke coming out a pipe from one window on his website.  

What are the real FACTS about "Blubonic Industries Inc." hydrogen peroxide?     

 1. Uses product reviews for 35% having NOTHING to do with his hydrogen peroxide that is not 35% as trickery.        

2. Is not selling 35% concentration nor is there any way to know what the concentration really is.        

3. Does not actual state what the concentration is if you read the fine print - rather only what he thinks is "safe."        

4. "Industries" that are actually a run down small old apartment, a dry cleaners and/or UPS store.        

5. No contact phone number.        

6. A cynical company name that actually means "marijuana."       

You actually do not have any way to know what in the bottle, just that it is not 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide.  He says Amazon does not allow "indicating" over 12%, but that he puts in it what he thinks is "safe to handle." What is that? He doesn't say!

What do all the 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide reviews have to do with what the items are? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! HE IS NOT SELLING 35%!!!       

Knowing this, would you trust putting what he is selling in your mouth and swallowing it? Or on your skin? In a nebulizer or vaporizer to breathe it in? Would you want to use in a garden for food you will eat or in a spa or swimming pool you will get into? Put in water for your beloved pet? The only thing you know is that it is NOT 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide, though you paid $49.95 for a gallon a gallon of it.        

Since it may be a near 100% pure profit product that is little more than a gallon of water out of a sink, this allows him the money to massively advertise on Amazon, so he's at the top of the page. How many people have been conned out of their money? Is his product even safe at all?  This is a real tragedy and truly endangers people. Not only are they NOT getting the hoped benefits from their product, the product may severely and long term damage their health. Worse, given the obvious cynical nature of such sellers, you can not even know if they are spitting or urinating the bottles or any other sadistic action. This by no means is not unheard of. Only an amoral person or even true sociopath engages is extreme deceptions on health related products.       For online purchasing of health related products, WHO you buy from now is as important as what you buy. Do not fall for an attractive label, health promises and claimed reviews and endorsements when you buy health products online. You need to know about the seller.        

For Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide, there are TWO questions to ask: 1. Is it clearly stated to be 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide? Not "indicated." Not "reduced from."   2. Is the seller registered per new federal regulations concerning 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security? We are. If the seller is not, figure the odds the seller has 35% to sell or reduce from are just about zero.  

Documenting The Above Claims:  The response to anything you read online should be "prove it." The above statements are severe. Can we prove it? Yes we can - every word of it.

 Here is the proof:     Blubonic Industries Inc. Trademark registration shows Jerome John at 1335 N. La Brea, Los Angeles, California 90028. You can search "Blubonic Industries Trademark registration at www.uspto.gov and it shows that name and address. No ID is required to file a trademark so that may not be his real name or his full name.

A search of the address on Google Street View shows it is are beat up run down old apartment complex in LA - not a business location, facility or business. You can search the address and what it looks like yourself by search Google maps and looking at the street view for Blubonic Industries Inc. Trademark recorded address of 1335 N. La Brea, Los Angeles, CA 90028  

When I read the business name of Blubonic Industries Inc I did not think that would be just someone's little apartment unit. That is not "industries!"

His website is bizarre - like something a pothead would have. The website picture is a moving video clip showing smoke billowing out of a side window of the apartment/production facility. Is to supposed to be showing off "Blubonic" marijuana smoke being blown out of the corner of a window? Is a small unit what you envisioned for "Blubonic Industries Inc.?" That is not an industrial location. It is a small, rundown apartment complex. His website is really bizarre.      

 The website also has a picture of a microscope and test tubes as if a laboratory, although microscopes and test tubes have nothing to do with either hydrogen peroxide or d'limonine (citric acid). Anyone can use stock website templates and Google images for a website and pick any great sounding industry or company name.

His website is blubonicindustries.com on his contact page of is 1905 Wilcox Ave Ste 311, Los Angeles, California 90068.

THERE IS NO PHONE NUMBER! Ever hear of "INDUSTRIES" that have NO telelphones?

The actual address and the office "suite" of "Blubonic Industries, Inc. Google street view of the website address of 1905 Wilcox Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90068.

Google Street view shows a dry cleaners, a tiny hotel and a UPS store. Which one of those is the facility of "Blubonic Industries Inc? "

Notice the address of 1905 Wilcox Ave Ste 311, Los Angeles, California 90068 on his website (and no phone number)

I attached to this a picture of the actual address and the office "suite" of "Blubonic Industries, Inc. Google street view of the website address of 1905 Wilcox Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90068. Is the "Suite" of Blubonic Industries Inc. the Lido Cleaners, the little hotel in the rear, or the UPS store?

WHY THIS INFO IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOUR HEALTH & SAFETY:

  Notice the address of 1905 Wilcox Ave Ste 311, Los Angeles, California 90068 (and no phone number) This the actual address and the office "suite" of "Blubonic Industries, Inc. Google street view of the website address of 1905 Wilcox Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90068 Is the "Suite" of Blubonic Industries Inc. the Lido Cleaners, the little hotel in the rear, or the UPS store? I suspect the "Suite" number is just a box number in the UPS store and it seems like overall he's in hiding - like the name he used for Trademark registration is just his first and middle, but not last name. Why no phone number? Every body - or at least every business - has a phone number.

Even street people have cell phones now.  A crummy old tiny apartment, maybe showing off his Blubonic MARIJUANA smoke out the window on his website. No phone number. Reviews that aren't even about the product. His industries are really a UPS store drop box, laundry place or old hotel?

I agree this is super dangerous. People use food grade hydrogen peroxide for many uses. For some people, they buy 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide because they are battling a terrible illness, disease or other physical suffering. Some literally fighting for their very lives. Some will put drops into liquid and drink it, put it on their skin, in nebulizers and into vaporizers to breathe. The dangers of fake or deceptive food grade hydrogen peroxide - and unsanitary packaging - literally could over time destroy a person's health even lethally, while denying the person the benefits they are seeking from 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. This makes fraud for health and dietary products so extremely unethical and dangerous.  

This info is from a warning website. I looked it all up - looked at the trademark public records, his website, the Amazon listings, and Google street view. Everything above is true. The person posting the warning above asked that people spread the word. So I posted this to help spread the word to warn people.

I attached pictures so you can see for yourself.  You can look it all up and confirm it yourself. Help warn other people about "Blubonic Industries Inc!" It's just some guy in a crummy old apartment running an online scam. 

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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Please disregard the misfiled/duplicate 'rebuttals’…

AUTHOR: Jerry - (United States)

POSTED: Saturday, January 12, 2019

Three (3) ‘rip-off-reports’ were filed by the same person under different names between 4/22/18 and 6/10/18. We accidentally posted rebuttals to the wrong report and a couple didn't appear, so they were duplicated. Below are our responses to this ‘food grade hydrogen peroxide -direct competitor’s’ ridiculous unsubstantiated claims. (see #9 below where the author inadvertently reveals this).

1) "Blubonic Industries Inc." sounds like a major company with production facilities, warehouses, sales staff, technical staff and more, doesn't it? Even more so if there were hundreds of reviews of it, confirming it is 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. Certainly, it must be real 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. Otherwise it couldn't be on Amazon and at the top of the search page. You would think so. Would it surprise you to learn all of that is false, a con-job and trickery by someone in a small apartment in L.A. California?

RESPONSE: Blubonic Industries adheres to the most exacting standards of the Foods Chemical Codex (FCC). Our products are manufactured, packaged and stored under current Good Manufacturing Practices (cGMP) per 21CFR part 211 in registered and inspected facilities, not an apartment.

2) If you search Amazon (April 24, 2018) for "35 percent food grade," you will find "Blubonic Industries Inc." food grade hydrogen peroxide. Neither the title nor label state 35% or any concentration, nor does the product description say what concentration it is. Rather, it talks about "indicated" concentration and that the concentration level is what he has determine is "safe" to handle.    

RESPONSE: Presently Amazon limits the concentration to 12%, so 35% is only available on the www.blubonic.com website, and 12% is only available on Amazon. The concentration is listed by volume and is indicated in the title, description, and on the bottle shown in the images, including buyer posted images. There is no ambiguity whatsoever regarding the concentration. The 12% limit on Amazon is their decision, no relevance to what we feel is safe or unsafe to handle.

3) If you scroll down you will see over 400 reviews praising it as 35%. The price is for 35%. All those reviews vouching for it as 35% is VERY impressive, aren't they? Certainly then it is 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide, isn't it?  No. it is not 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. It is a scam, a lie, and a con-job buy by an apartment-based seller. Amazon does not even allow 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide to be listed. Amazon allows no higher concentration than 12%. This is worth repeating.

RESPONSE: When 35% was available on Amazon, there were over 400 reviews praising it as 35%. To the contrary, the current listing on Amazon is for 12%, and there are to date 120 reviews praising it as 12%, not over 400 praising it as 35%.

4) Not ONE of the product reviews on his Amazon listings - any of them - talking about 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide have ANYTHING to do with what he is selling, nor were they posted in review of what is in the listings. It's just a very skillful trick.

RESPONSE: Correct, as stated above, Amazon presently limits the concentration to 12%, so aside from a few buyers who left their review of 35% on the listing for 12% after the 35% listing was removed, all of the reviews on the 12% listing are about the 12% hydrogen peroxide, verified by the red “Verified Purchase” tag directly under the title (you can actually sort the reviews to view only verified purchases and see). While many Amazon sellers use dishonest review practices to try and boost their sales, make no mistake, we feel lying to the public is abhorrent. It also isn’t difficult to spot fake reviews, and the foolish sellers who employ these tactics serve only to discredit and undermine their own reputation.

5) Blubonic Industries Inc. by searching appears to be just is a rental drop box in a UPS store in a run down part of Los Angeles and the "facility" manufacturing it is a small, old Los Angeles apartment.     

RESPONSE: The address 1905 Wilcox Ave Ste 311, Los Angeles CA, 90068 address is a UPS store with business and private mail boxes. It’s our ‘mailing’ address, not the physical location of our manufacturing, shipping, or administration offices. Not that it bears any relevance, but to again correct this competitor’s grossly false and misleading comments, the address is located in Hollywood Heights, a neighborhood within the Hollywood Hills, not quite the ‘run down’ part of Los Angeles the rip-off-report author would have you believe.  

6) "Blubonic" is a strain of marijuana.

RESPONSE: We derived the name Blubonic from the “very pale blue” description used in scientific terminology to describe the appearance of hydrogen peroxide, not from a strain of cannabis. That being said, we judge not, and certainly do not judge people who use the medicinal cannabis plant.

7) Blubonic Industries Inc. is registered to "Jerome John" at 1335 N. La Brea, Los Angeles, California 90028 according to his filing for a trademark. The address is a small apartment complex. Note, no proof of identity is required to file for a trademark. There is no way to now if that is his real or full name.

RESPONSE: We aren’t sure what this claim is trying to imply, but Blubonic Industries is a subsidiary registered to Jerome John Ind. The address at 1335 N La Brea Ste 2 was the previous business mailing address located on the street level of an apartment complex above. The name Jerome John Ind. is the company name and has no relation to the name(s) of company owners.

8) He given (I think they mean ‘he gives’) no phone number on his website. Ever heard of "industries" with no phone number?

RESPONSE: Our phone number has always been listed at the bottom of every page on our website: 323-762-5551.

9) For Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide, there are TWO questions to ask: 1. Is it clearly stated to be 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide? Not "indicated." Not "reduced from."   2. Is the seller registered per new federal regulations concerning 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security? We are. If the seller is not, figure the odds the seller has 35% to sell or reduce from are just about zero.

RESPONSE: Since we’ve already addressed #1, well address #2. “Is the seller registered per new federal regulations concerning 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security? We are.” …For anyone who missed this, what the rip-off-report author just inadvertently revealed in the last statement is that they are a food grade hydrogen peroxide direct competitor. Considering there are about 2 other ‘brands’ of food grade hydrogen peroxide, both of which are owned by the same questionable ‘bottler’, you can draw your own conclusion about their identity. If I were looking for food grade hydrogen peroxide, this fact would be very disconcerting.

Feel free to contact us with any inquiries, questions, or concerns. Our 'openly posted' telephone number is 323-762-5551, and our email address is contact@blubonic.com.

About us: https://www.blubonic.com/about-us Since 1999, Blubonic Industries has proudly provided uncompromising purity of the highest quality food grade hydrogen peroxide on the planet, at fair market price.​ We maintain a "customer-is-second-to-no-one" service policy, and are dedicated to serving your needs. Anything we can do to assist is our pleasure. 

Our commitment to ethical business principles: Honesty, integrity, trustworthiness, loyalty, fairness, concern and respect for others, law abiding, commitment to excellence, leadership, reputation, morale, and accountability.

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Blubonic Industries does not launder drugs and drug money through Amazon.

AUTHOR: James - (United States)

POSTED: Friday, August 17, 2018

It may not come as a big surprise but Blubonic Industries actually does not launder drugs and drug money through Amazon. 

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Amazon restricted the sale of 35% hydrogen peroxide. This isn't a secret.

AUTHOR: James - (United States)

POSTED: Friday, August 17, 2018

Amazon restricted the sale of 35% hydrogen peroxide. This isn't a secret. That's the reason it's reduced to 12% now on Amazon. A few people may have inadvertantly left a review for the 35% on the listing for 12% when Amazon removed the listing for 35% and this would be evident by the missing 'Verified Purchase' tag under the reviewer name which nearly every review on the listing has.

This ripoffreport post has also been identified as coming from a seller on Amazon who sells hydrogen peroxide under the disguise of two different company names, both having multiple listings with poor product reviews and ratings.

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

FAILING COMPETITOR SLIPS UP IN FAKE RIP OFF REPORT, ACCIDENTALLY REVEALS IDENTITY

AUTHOR: Jerry - (United States)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 24, 2018

 We can't imagine anyone taking seriously the utter nonsense written in the FOURTY EIGHT paragraphs by this person, but if there's any question, the 'failing competitor' slipped up in pararagh 30 when he writes, "Is the seller registered per new federal regulations concerning 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security? We are." -Um, you are? You're registered per new federal regulations concerning 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security? Oops. Admitting your a competitor is not exactly something you want to reveal in a 48 paragraph tirade of lies attempting to slander your competiton. The fact that we offer not only a legitimate alternative to your obvious unprofessional basement bottling operation, but a far superior product on every level, gives you great concern because it's caused your business -selling under at least 2 different company names on Amazon, to fail. You hopelessly flood Amazon with duplicate listings under the two company names with slightly different labels, constantly trying to avert the negative reviews your products receive, and seemingly trying to fool the public into believing that your two companies aren't related, albeit a horrible attempt. Your only hope is to come on to a site like Ripoffreport and make a poor attempt to disparage us by writing lies and slander. Sad and desperate. Blubonic Industries

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

BEWARE 35% IS NO LONGER ALLOWED ON AMAZON!

AUTHOR: Jerry - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 18, 2018

35% is no longer allowed on Amazon, therefore we no longer offer 35% on Amazon. The concentration percentage is always printed on the label. The paragraphs of defamatory rhetoric you've posted show your clear and obvious ulterior motivations, as opposed to a genuine concern about a legitimate issue.

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

SLANDEROUS LIBEL, SPAM

AUTHOR: Jerry - (United States)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 17, 2018

This is spam written by a failing "competitor" on Amazon selling under multiple names and trying to malign us. The claims are so outrageous and ridiculous they don't dignify a response. Jerry, Blubonic Industries

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

FAKE RIPOFF REPORTS WRITTEN BY FAILING "COMPETITOR"

AUTHOR: Jerry - (United States)

POSTED: Friday, June 29, 2018

This is spam written by a failing "competitor" trying to malign us. The claims are so ridiculous and the grammer so poor it doesnt dignify any other remarks. Our 20 year reputation speaks for itself.   Jerry, Blubonic Industries

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Blubonic Industries Inc, aka Marijuana Industries Inc

AUTHOR: Jim - (United States)

POSTED: Saturday, April 28, 2018

Selling illegal drugs online is common. Did know Amazon was being used before. His using Amazon for selling illegal drugs is smart. Amazon is both the middle man and money launderer. 

Amazon probably has filters for words like "marijuana" to block, but not varieties of marijuana like blubonic that all potheads know is the strongest marijuana. Amazon would maybe block "Marijuana Industries Inc," but that is exactly what the Amazon account and business name of Blubonic Industries Inc means to every pothead. It means he is a mariuana dealer. His outrsight says his industry is marijuana. 

Clever how he snuck that past Amazon. The website with smoke coming out of his apartment and his showing drug lab test tubes and microscope is more code language he really is selling drugs. The word blubonic only has one defintion. Marijuana. Blubonic means nothing else but marijuana. 

He probably is selling more blubonic marijuana off his Amazon d'liminone citric acid listings than his misleading Amazon 35% hydrogen peroxide  listings. He sells d'limonine citris acid for $100 a gallon. Citric acid cleaner is less than $20 a gallon retail at a store. No one would pay his prices for any of his products unless they were stupid or getting something else too. He could buy citric acid bulk for much less than than even $20 and he sells it for $100. No one charges $100 for a gallon of citric acid. This allows him at least a $70 profit oer sale.

Selling drugs thru Amazon is a smart. He ships them the product. The customer receives it and also another package with the blubonic marijuana coming by mail with a fake return address. Because he shipped the d'liminone or hydrogen peroxide it all seems legitimate. There is no proof that he sent the illegal drugs, the customer can deny ordering it, and the money is laundered thru Amazon. By not having a phone number on his website communication can only be by email. He can deny ever seeing the email and the buyer deny sending it. With Amazon in the middle and all the jurisdictions it is hard to prove a case against him. He as the drug dealer and the customer never even met and can be across the country from each other. 

The $70 profit from the Amazon sale would get the buyer 1/8th ounce of blubonic marijuana at street rate. This makes him $560 an ounce, $8,960 a pound and $25,000 a kilogram. He may grow it himself. If he buys kilos he is making over $15,000 a kilo. Amazon takes a cut off their fees. Amazon has deniability unless they get tagged like FedEx did over illegal prescription drugs with the government claiming they should have known.

It is surprising Amazon would even allow a company and product name to be an illegal drug name that blubonic aka marijuana is. Every pothead knows that blubonic is very strong marijuana. Amazon may not know what blubonic is. Why not Amazon's Heroin Industries, Inc., Cocaine Industries Inc., Opiodes Industries Inc.?

You are reporting an extreme switch-and-bait scam on Amazon, but you have discovered far more than that going on with Marijuana industries Inc Amazon sales. 

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