Carl Newlen Amanda Newlen stole money from individuals Ripoff Athens Ohio

Drew,

Just admit that you emailed to cancel the agreement.

But I guess you can explain everything away by saying that because I am technical I can make everything up.

So you have a problem. You only get your deposit after you admit on this forum that you emailed to cancel the agreement.

As for my health, that is none of your business. And anyone I do business with has no right to call me at the hospital. Just because you buy something from me doesn't make you my friend.

And Tod did try and sue because I refused to provide training onsite - 1,800 miles away. The training was to be online. Come on, it is the Internet age.

BTW, since you claim to know so much about my legal life, I am surprised that you didn't know that his case, where he was suing for 2 million dollars, was dismissed.

And even today he still has the sites.

Drew, answer me another question. If I was such a hack, and an Internet fraud, why did you try to settle with me by asking me to build web sites for you?

Admit that you cancelled the agreement and you will get your money. But that will be all you get.

It is very simple

Give us our money.

I am not the only person who wrote about you, Newlen, on Rip Off Report nor who sued you in the American Court System and won.

That being said when you start acting like a human, and give the money back you stole, maybe your life will start to come back to you instead of being haunted and hunted by all of those seeking to collect.

To the sale - and not willing to take our own money back LOL - of which Carl, any person with a right mind knows you can forge an email especially since you are a known internet fraud. Any person can make an email look as if someone wrote it.. Duh....we're not all as dumb as you think.....

So back to the sale;
As told by Tod; the other person you tried to sell of the sites to in California..

And I will give all details including telephone numbers etc to anyone who asks to prove all of this

Don't forget all the lies your wife told him about your supposed heart attack - and not knowing what hospital you were in when you had this event??????

Wow just imagine; your own wife did not know where the buyer of your web business who just gave you $50K could send a get well card????

As he told me it was an out right lie since he called all the hospitals in the state of Ohio, where you lived when we were doing this deal -

Proven by your social security number and drivers license number and bank accounts that we have on you - where you deposited our check -

Also of which you gave us on the contract you signed with us to sell us the fraudulent business - and we still have on the record with your signature on - and where the police came to your home to visit you -

Tod tried to find a patent with your name. And could not.

And he stated for the record after the no show for training he could not access of the web sites you supposedly sold him - he then determined you also stole money from him.and sued you in court oh. and did you show for that court date also? No of course not.

But, the scam, it did not work. Selling the same sites to 2 different people and trying to make the money twice. NO, you got caught. I can give very intimate details of all of this to any person who requests it.

But Carl; all you have to do is make it right.

Give us our money. It's simple. Give us our money.

After all; you admit here more than once that you are keeping our money..

So knowing you admit in front of the entire world on Rip Off Report you have our money; just give it back and we'll tell the world you did just that. You finally did the stand up thing and gave us our money that you admit to keeping.

We hope to hear from you to put this behind all of us.

It is very simple

Give us our money.

I am not the only person who wrote about you, Newlen, on Rip Off Report nor who sued you in the American Court System and won.

That being said when you start acting like a human, and give the money back you stole, maybe your life will start to come back to you instead of being haunted and hunted by all of those seeking to collect.

To the sale - and not willing to take our own money back LOL - of which Carl, any person with a right mind knows you can forge an email especially since you are a known internet fraud. Any person can make an email look as if someone wrote it.. Duh....we're not all as dumb as you think.....

So back to the sale;
As told by Tod; the other person you tried to sell of the sites to in California..

And I will give all details including telephone numbers etc to anyone who asks to prove all of this

Don't forget all the lies your wife told him about your supposed heart attack - and not knowing what hospital you were in when you had this event??????

Wow just imagine; your own wife did not know where the buyer of your web business who just gave you $50K could send a get well card????

As he told me it was an out right lie since he called all the hospitals in the state of Ohio, where you lived when we were doing this deal -

Proven by your social security number and drivers license number and bank accounts that we have on you - where you deposited our check -

Also of which you gave us on the contract you signed with us to sell us the fraudulent business - and we still have on the record with your signature on - and where the police came to your home to visit you -

Tod tried to find a patent with your name. And could not.

And he stated for the record after the no show for training he could not access of the web sites you supposedly sold him - he then determined you also stole money from him.and sued you in court oh. and did you show for that court date also? No of course not.

But, the scam, it did not work. Selling the same sites to 2 different people and trying to make the money twice. NO, you got caught. I can give very intimate details of all of this to any person who requests it.

But Carl; all you have to do is make it right.

Give us our money. It's simple. Give us our money.

After all; you admit here more than once that you are keeping our money..

So knowing you admit in front of the entire world on Rip Off Report you have our money; just give it back and we'll tell the world you did just that. You finally did the stand up thing and gave us our money that you admit to keeping.

We hope to hear from you to put this behind all of us.

It is very simple

Give us our money.

I am not the only person who wrote about you, Newlen, on Rip Off Report nor who sued you in the American Court System and won.

That being said when you start acting like a human, and give the money back you stole, maybe your life will start to come back to you instead of being haunted and hunted by all of those seeking to collect.

To the sale - and not willing to take our own money back LOL - of which Carl, any person with a right mind knows you can forge an email especially since you are a known internet fraud. Any person can make an email look as if someone wrote it.. Duh....we're not all as dumb as you think.....

So back to the sale;
As told by Tod; the other person you tried to sell of the sites to in California..

And I will give all details including telephone numbers etc to anyone who asks to prove all of this

Don't forget all the lies your wife told him about your supposed heart attack - and not knowing what hospital you were in when you had this event??????

Wow just imagine; your own wife did not know where the buyer of your web business who just gave you $50K could send a get well card????

As he told me it was an out right lie since he called all the hospitals in the state of Ohio, where you lived when we were doing this deal -

Proven by your social security number and drivers license number and bank accounts that we have on you - where you deposited our check -

Also of which you gave us on the contract you signed with us to sell us the fraudulent business - and we still have on the record with your signature on - and where the police came to your home to visit you -

Tod tried to find a patent with your name. And could not.

And he stated for the record after the no show for training he could not access of the web sites you supposedly sold him - he then determined you also stole money from him.and sued you in court oh. and did you show for that court date also? No of course not.

But, the scam, it did not work. Selling the same sites to 2 different people and trying to make the money twice. NO, you got caught. I can give very intimate details of all of this to any person who requests it.

But Carl; all you have to do is make it right.

Give us our money. It's simple. Give us our money.

After all; you admit here more than once that you are keeping our money..

So knowing you admit in front of the entire world on Rip Off Report you have our money; just give it back and we'll tell the world you did just that. You finally did the stand up thing and gave us our money that you admit to keeping.

We hope to hear from you to put this behind all of us.

It is very simple

Give us our money.

I am not the only person who wrote about you, Newlen, on Rip Off Report nor who sued you in the American Court System and won.

That being said when you start acting like a human, and give the money back you stole, maybe your life will start to come back to you instead of being haunted and hunted by all of those seeking to collect.

To the sale - and not willing to take our own money back LOL - of which Carl, any person with a right mind knows you can forge an email especially since you are a known internet fraud. Any person can make an email look as if someone wrote it.. Duh....we're not all as dumb as you think.....

So back to the sale;
As told by Tod; the other person you tried to sell of the sites to in California..

And I will give all details including telephone numbers etc to anyone who asks to prove all of this

Don't forget all the lies your wife told him about your supposed heart attack - and not knowing what hospital you were in when you had this event??????

Wow just imagine; your own wife did not know where the buyer of your web business who just gave you $50K could send a get well card????

As he told me it was an out right lie since he called all the hospitals in the state of Ohio, where you lived when we were doing this deal -

Proven by your social security number and drivers license number and bank accounts that we have on you - where you deposited our check -

Also of which you gave us on the contract you signed with us to sell us the fraudulent business - and we still have on the record with your signature on - and where the police came to your home to visit you -

Tod tried to find a patent with your name. And could not.

And he stated for the record after the no show for training he could not access of the web sites you supposedly sold him - he then determined you also stole money from him.and sued you in court oh. and did you show for that court date also? No of course not.

But, the scam, it did not work. Selling the same sites to 2 different people and trying to make the money twice. NO, you got caught. I can give very intimate details of all of this to any person who requests it.

But Carl; all you have to do is make it right.

Give us our money. It's simple. Give us our money.

After all; you admit here more than once that you are keeping our money..

So knowing you admit in front of the entire world on Rip Off Report you have our money; just give it back and we'll tell the world you did just that. You finally did the stand up thing and gave us our money that you admit to keeping.

We hope to hear from you to put this behind all of us.

Drew,

If you publicly admit that you wrote to cancel the agreement before your check cleared, and that you said, and I quote, "I am cancelling this agreement according to my rights. Send me my deposit. If you don't I will hunt you down. My money, or you . . . the choice is yours."

If you are willing to admit to this then I believe we are on the right path. You might even mention how your attorney called me to say that you were not going to accept the re-payment of your deposit, and that you wanted the web sites even though you knew I sold them to someone else. You did that because if you accepted the $7,000 down payment back you couldn't sue for $250,000 on a $21,000 deal.

You see, I am tired of how you fail to give specifics. But I think the few people who read this are smart enough to make up their own minds - if they have all the information. I can forward the documents to anyone interested, but I like the idea of it coming from you.

Once this is done I will be more than happy to settle this - but don't expect anything close to $250,000. I am not your meal ticket.

Yes they are thieves;

Newlen still has not returned our money so you see they are truly lairs. They have several court cases that they have lost and have several judgments against them. It is public record.

They are just trying to make themselves look beter buy making believe going to court is something out of the ordinary in this country. When someone steals your money, it is how the good fight the evil who steel your money as they have done over and over.

If they are so up and up and ready to put this past them then they would simply return our money. Why don't they? What does that say about them?

I can give any person the names of the collection agencies who have contacted them to verify all of this.

The bottom line to this whole matter is that Drew wrote me to cancel the agreement, which he wrote was his right.

I sent the refund like he requested. Then he made a 180 degree turn and said he wanted the web sites.

But by then I had sold them to someone else.

I don't agree with the court's decesion, and if my absence was such a big concern to the Judge and the Court, that tells me something. It tells me that Drew didn't have a clear-cut case. I did provide the Court my information.

But by not showing up for court and losing a court case like this one. does not make me a criminal, or someone out to rip people off.

All I can say is this:

We make about 300 new sales a year, and if we were out to rip people off there would be more posts than this. We have been in the Internet business since 1993.

I am not saying that we have a 100% customer satisfaction, because we don't. But I think we have done pretty well to be in business since 1993.

If you need more information, feel free to email me a uspninternet@gmail.com.

I respond to all Serious requests.

Again,

Most important, this report is about theft and to warn others to be careful.

We never spoke to or heard of Laura, (notice no last name)

No we are not real estate developers; never were and it doesn't even matter. Ocean One Properties is not a real estate developer nor can any business developments be found in the entire world with this name attached to it. It is simply a company name.

Just as USPN. What is that? Does it say I am a web site developer and rip off people?

As we stated before, any intelligent person in the United States knows it is impossible for someone to go to court 3 times without the other party getting a notice.

This is simply Carl making believe he is someone else as he has done before.

As I stated before, the Judge in the case made us wait for the 3rd hearing and he had is personal assistant send another notice for the hearing. It was signed for.

So he went ahead with the case, it's that simple. Carl just blew it off and figured we'd go away and he'd get away with another theft. It is also on his credit history by all the agencies. Would they do that if it was not valid? I think not.

As far as the forgery and attorney lies;

My attorney is still the same.

When Carl signed the contract which included arbitration, Carl made a copy of his Social Security Card and Ohio Drivers License on the signature page.

If we forged the doc's how did we get these on his signature page?

Also as anybody knows arbitration is much cheaper than court and could have been done over the telephone and finished right there.

Simply another lie to try to take the heat off of himself.

No, Carl, you cannot lie. You are just a thief and stole our money and this is why you did not go to court because you know you would have lost. Any intelligent person can see this.


We too have all emails and as everyone knows Carl is a programmer and can make up documents. He obviously has done this before when he tried to sell the web sites to two separate people. Just to make more money but he got caught.

So Carl, you got caught. If you say you're such the stand up man, then just be a man, and stand up and make it right and give us our money back. Why not? Isn't it that simple to just give our money back that you said you still have?


Sincerely
Drew, the person still waiting for his money.

I have spoken with Drew on several occassions, and he is indeed a developer and owns Ocean One Properties. I have even spoken to Carl. Drew's real name is Drew Kalsey. I think if he chose to put Carl's info on this report people should know Drew's real name.

The reason I got involved was because I planned to do business with Carl and USPN, his company.

There was another "complaint" in RipOff report and on the surface it looked like a bad idea to deal with USPN, but after I read everything and contacted a few people who were involved, I was quite confident that the original complaint was false.

Carl faxed the information he had on the situation with Drew, including Drew's email where he cancelled the deal. By cancelling the deal Drew had no claim on anything, and Carl also sent a letter from Drew's attorney where the attorney said Drew would not be accepting the refund.

So what you have here is a Real Estate Developer in Fort Myers, Florida sending a 30% down payment to purchase web sites, and then cancelling the deal. Carl sent a check for the deposit, and was told by Drew's attorney that Drew would not be accepting the deposit back.

Once Carl mailed the refund check back he sold the sites to a company in San Diego.

Maybe Carl should have travelled to Florida to appear in court - but according to him, Drew and his attorney never forwarded court times, as required by law, and Drew falsified (forged Carl's signature) a statement that Carl would agree to Arbitration. Carl never agreed to this, and when he asked for the documentation Drew's attorney said he was no longer handling the case.

So was there anything criminal in this? NO! Drew cancelled and refused a refund.

I still work with Carl and USPN, and have never had a problem.

Laura
Glen Easton IL

Absolute scammers and thieves;

All we ever wanted was our money back.

We are not developers at all. Never were, dont know where he came up with that one??

We simply wanted to buy something he advertised for sale. He got our money and never gave us anything.

We never received a check; I wish we did because we would not have had to spend another $4K chasing him in court. To this day he still has not given us our original $7k back.

So is this not theft?

We have been in contact with them since this report went out, and they said they had our original check and would send it if we made this report look good and remove the negative report on their credit at Equifax etc

We emailed back and forth for 2 months; we agreed but they never sent it.

So what is their real intention?

We guess to simply string people along and keep hiding.

Again, all we want is to get out money back, and we will not stop until we get it. Isnt that what you do to thieves, keep after them until you get your hard earned money back and hopefully this report will help someone else NOT get caught up in their web of lies.

He is right. He did say he wanted to buy the web sites I was selling. In fact, he sent a check for $7000 down. The total sale was $21,000.

He wrote a check and I told him I would have to wait until the check cleared before I went any further.

His check cleared, and the same day he emailed me to say he wanted to cancel. I still have the email with header info, etc.

So I canceled. I sold to a different person.

Then I mailed a check to him for the $7,000. His attorney called me and said he wasn't going to accept the check, and that he wanted the web sites. I said they were sold.

He sued. He lived in Florida and we live in Ohio. I have heart disease and diabetes, and my wife was 7 months pregnant and we had a 3 and 1-year old. I wasn't going to leave to travel to Florida for court hearings. I faxed my info to the court - but since I didn't show up he won.

So, let me ask you. Should he get $250,000 from me when HE canceled a $21,000 deal?

Put yourself in my shoes. He is a real estate developer and he went to a Court in his own County.

So all along I have held onto the $7,000. I will be happy to give him the $7,000 if that puts an end to the madness - but he won't take that. He wants it all.

The money is my only leverage. I don't really want the $7,000 - he does.

I won't be pushed around by a rich *&*& - I want my boys to know it is okay to stand up for what you believe is the truth and what is fair.

In fact, it is more than alright. As a man, husband and father I think it is a necessity.