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Complaint Review: Cheyenne Distributing - Platinum Distributing, East Coast Enterprises, CDI, Empire Distribution - Loveland Colorado

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  • Cheyenne Distributing - Platinum Distributing, East Coast Enterprises, CDI, Empire Distribution 177 S Madison Ave Loveland, Colorado U.S.A.

Cheyenne Distributing - Platinum Distributing - East Coast Enterprises - CDI - Empire Distribution 138 hours of work $50 paycheck 60 demos impossible, impossible to make $1995 base pay Loveland Colorado

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Practice makes perfect

*Consumer Suggestion: Be honest Eric

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I worked for Cheyenne Distributing for two weeks. I was told I would make $1995 for completing 60 in home demos in a month. I was also told I would get any commission after $1180 on sales, minus a 3% credit card fee or 10% finance fee.

I sold 7 irby Vaccuums. The first two were at cost of $795. with no commission expected. The third at $1000 which I was paid $50 for. the fourth at 1200, which I was not paid for. The fifth sold for $1695, which I was not paid for (I'll explain this one in a second). The 6th sold for 795 on a credit card, which I do not expect pay for. The 7th sold for 1000, which I expect $50 for.

The person who bought the Kirby for 1695 cancelled. I was not informed by anyone that the customer cancelled. After getting my check for $50 I decided to call the customer and ask if they cancelled. Sure enough they did cancel. Wish I knew sooner, I would have quit sooner.

After signing the paperwork after orientation, I was put on a road trip immediately. I worked 13 hours a day for 7 days and 12 hours on the 8th day. 104 hours total for the first check (which is not paid hourly btw). If you figure it out by the hour I made .54 an hour. I worked 34 hours the next week and was supposed to make $50 for the 7th sale of $1000. I was told after quitting that I would not see that check. I worked 138 hours and was paid $50...that's $0.36 an hour.

When I quit the CEO was asking me if I'd have a better future working at McDonnalds for minumum wage. I told him yes I would because they ACTUALLY PAY their employees a low but livable wage.

When I was interviewed for the job I was told I would be a phone customer service representive. When hired they told me I'd be going door to door vacuum selling. What they failed to mention is that they'd send me in no soliciting neighborhoods and towns that adopted the Green River Ordinance (no soliciting). While on the road trip the team leader and another dealer were arrested for soliciting. If i was in the car I would have been arrested too.

This company is very dishonest....DO NOT WORK FOR THEM....and if they come to your door..they will play mind games with pricing with you. They call their "boss" (the team leader) and ask them to call the CEO and ask about the best possible price. The trade in is bull...they don't want your vacuums, they take up space, and they will offer more than you paid for them. It's all about how much the dealer will be making. when you say no they will call back and ask if they have a "friends and family bonus" the bonus is fake, they try to sell a kirby to everyone whether they sell it at cost or not because a sale is still a sale. Before leaving, if you still say no they will tell you they have ONE friends and family bonus left and they aren't supposed to use it, but they will and its for 795 total plus tax and finance charge. The finance charge is rediculous btw. It averages 400 and they never mention what it is or let you know about the 3 day cancellation. They will always try to get a down payment from you, and tell you they need one...they can finance you at 0 down and 30 a month...no less...but don't let them make you think it has to be a high number....Higher numbers are better to lower interest, but even on the high downpayments and high monthly payments there is still a finance charge of 150-300. The finance charge is 20-24%. they may tell you it comes out to 8% a year, which means absolutely nothing. They devide the interest rate by years and when it comes to paying it does not work like that.

Eric
Ft Collins, Colorado
U.S.A.

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Practice makes perfect

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, June 30, 2011

By posting this on here, you have now doomed several of the people working for Cheyenne Distributing as Kirby dealers.

By lowering the price to 0 down and $30 a month, no one get's paid. Commission is out the window. In a strictly commission based job, this is the last thing the dealer wants or needs. As you probably know, working for free is not fun.

The problem people have with working for Kirby is you have to get better. Your presentation of the product improves the more demonstrations you do. It only becomes high pressure if you did not have a good enough presentation to convince the customer to begin with. The product sells itself if properly showcased and it continues to work if maintained.

As for finance charges, they are dependant on the finance company, and not everyone can be financed without money down.

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Be honest Eric

AUTHOR: Wake up and stop being stupid - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, February 06, 2011

The Kirby opportunity is not a ripoff Eric.  It is a true American institution that allows anyone from the most humble to everyone else to learn a trade, master a trade and become an honest and significant business operator.  You simply need to understand the process, principles, and master these process' to your benefit. 

While that week and a half you describe was unfortunate, I submit that you quit before you truly learned how to make that Kirby "beast" serve you.  It can you know?. 

Having a cancellation is unfortunate, but it is a part of the business that you should have been prepared for.  If not, shame on you for not being prepared.  However, look at how your income would have been skewed in your FAVOR had the deal not cancelled. 

No one makes any money selling a machine for $1000.  Certainly you as a dealer won't.   If you traded your profit for a position for a vacation, that's your call.  Seems you knew the price points.  No way do you ever drop a machine for that amount if you arent' getting paid man?  WTF. 

Do a $5000.00 Show to sell a $2500.00 machine.  One thing I can say about the group in Cheyenne, they are notorious Lowballers. However that's THEIR business model, so you either go with the program or find a group that does it for you. 

There is nothing wrong with the Kirby opportunity.  Obviously there was something wrong with you.  Your experience while unfortunate is not unique.  Your problem is that you quit before you got the true payoff for your effort. 

Working in areas where no solicitiing is not permitted is simply poor leadership in the part of the team leader.  Makes for a bad experience for sure.  That's poor execution. Not a poor opportunity. 

Your impression on the pricing is faulty as well.  Coming from a person who doesn't understand how they get paid, what they get paid on, and how to influence their sale doesn't surprise me though.  There are no "mind games" played on pricing.  Pricing is set.  Having been in a few shows yourself, you know that all 'games' are played by the prospect.  Pleading poverty until you hit the magic number (in your case it sounded like $795) and then 'surprize' they suddenly have money. 

Learn to sell Eric. Either that or get away from the profession, because thats what it is; a profession.  Granted there are lessons that need to be learned in order to sell.  I recommend you either learn them or stay away from it. 

Fact is, you won't learn them in less than two weeks.  The Kirby opportunity, even the one practiced by the group in Cheyenne is a pure selling opportunity, once mastered will serve you well the remainder of your life. 

With a name like Eric I'm assuming you are a guy. With all of the woman noises you are making I guess you might be a woman.  Either a woman or gay, this just isn't for you Eric.  Take your pom poms and go home kid.  It's a man's world out here. 

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