Chidolls - Sugar 'n Spice Chihuahuas - Dawn Daylce - Debbie Drury dishonest ripoff Salida California

April you aren't the only one this happened to. I would stay away from ALL of them in that grou, Dawn, Debbie, Claudia....if they are a "friend" of any of these people it's best just to walk away.

One of my dogs had to have double patella surgery also. With this dog I had issues getting my AKC papers and when I called AKC to ask when they would arrive I guess they called Dawn and she got ticked that I called them and told me they would be sent I didn't have to call AKC. I did recieve my papers for that dog but the second dog I adopted I received nothing but a scared dog who had never had any human interaction or touch and I never received her papers despite being told numerous occasions they had been sent. Two years later she is the same way despite all the love we give her. She tolerates family members petting her but won't go for walks, she shakes like crazy and is terrified. I don't know what they did to her there but it has really affected her and when I asked about it I got the same nasty Dawn stating I could just bring the dog back to her. Why in the world would I do that knowing she got the way she is now from being THERE.

It's really tough to judge a breeder. What I have learned is that I will NEVER have a dog shipped to me, it's just too much of a risk. I will only buy if I can drive, see the property the dogs are on, see BOTH parents, both parents papers and I need to have AKC papers in hand before I give any money over.

There are reputable breeders out there. I did find one and have two gorgeous long hair puppies from her and she is in Northern Califonria called Orchid Kennels. This breeder/owner/handler works in Animal Cruelty and Enforcement and shows her Amstaffs and Chihuahuas. She has gorgeous animals I have been to her house and seen her dogs compete and place. So I suggest anyone wanting a quality animal for someone who really cares. My puppy got sick before it was time for me to take her and she would not allow for me to take her until the vet gave her the clear. She gave me all the vet paperwork showing she was A OK and told me if anything else came up to let her know. Nothing ever did and the puppy is now 6 months and doing great. So there are reputable people out there who do really care and aren't out just to breed to make a buck.

Good luck.

In my years of breeding I have sold TWO puppies who developed defects that could be genetic or acquired. I refunded both buyers.
I have NEVER sold a puppy so far that has died after sale. You can't state that same fact.


Stop using lies and garbage to create what doesn't exist. You and your friends writing all those fake reports to frame me as a bad buyer have stopped but you are posted the BS on your website. Misleading the consumer is CONSUMER FRAUD.

Take these reports off your website. We have moved on with your lives. Time for you to move on.

So I hear that you have some nasties online about you. Well now, having trouble swallowing the bile you forced others to choke on? so many of us have loads of nasties online too!THANK-YOU

We were able to move on. Time for you to drop the victim act and accept all you have done to others. The real vicitms have moved on. Time you stop the crap and move on too.

So if you decide to keep these defamtory reports on your website at least I have added some truth for those who care for truth and there are PLENTY OF THOSE CONSUMERS out there kiddo

Hi April,

You mentioned in one of your responses that the actions of these breeders will catch up with them. Well it has.

I am currently in contact with some very important people that are extremely interested in Gomez.

I know they would like to speak with you as well. If you contact me, I can give you their information. You can contact them and at that point decide what is best for yourself and Tyler.

I hope this finds you both well.

I think it is very kind of all the posters to add suggestions to April's report. Even though this is not my report, I have found the information invaluable. Thank you.

In light of new developments, Debra Drury of Chidolls, now known as Emerald City Babydolls, is forcing our hand. She has emailed us (in error I am sure)some names of disgruntled people we have no knowledge of. One persons name is Billings. This is a name that is new to us.

We are not sure if this is another disgruntled customer OR how this person fits into the picture. Unfortunately, Debra has stated she is going to sue "Billings" along with myself and others. Not sure how or why.

I would love to be able to advise this person of her intentions but of course cannot since I have no contact. If "Billings" reads this report, please go to the chischihuahua site.

I certainly wish the best of New Years to everyone. April, can we have an update on your pup?? I would like to know how he is faring since his surgery.

Happy New Year!!!

If you are searching for a pet before you send money research your breed and the breeder. If the puppy is AKC registered insist on having the AKC number of the sire and the dam given to you before you pay a deposit. That way the breeder has identified the puppy to you according to AKC's rules and can be sanctioned if this is not the puppy sent to you. You can go to the AKC's site to confirm the identity of the dam or sire. If the breeder is using any other registry besides AKC UKC or Canadien Kennel Club{in the USA] they are not subject to any disciplinary action when they are using fake registries which include APRI ACA ConKC APR etc. If there is a conglomerate of breeders selling dogs then run the other direction you have no idea who is selling what nor what you will be getting as a pet. Please be aware that most repputable breeders will only sell altered pets.

When reading this whole report and the report from others dealing with this individual, I was flabber gasted to find out the breeder can continue the practice of breeding. Why? what is her motive? Keep up the comments and DO NOT EVER STOP INFROMING THE PUBLIC NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE THREATENS.

Chidolls, or luvs chihuahuas, or emerald city, or chihuahuababes, or who ever you are this week, guess what judgement day will come. If you have any morals at all why not just give them a puppy to replace the heart ache you gave them all.

The one good thing about this country is, "Freedom of Speech" obviously these individuals do not get it. We all a right to share our opinions as well as REPORT the events in our lives. Obviously these complaints made are not opinionated but factual. Chidolls/Emeral Chihuahuas/SNS Chihuahuas it is one organization with different names for whatever reason who knows. However, these individuals are threatened bye the complaints and therefore want to threaten anyone that is willing to publicly state their actual experiences. Will it work? No, will an attorney support this? Not one that is willing to maintain a track record. The best way for Chidolls to stop receiving complaints is to simply do the right thing. I have heard numerous amounts of complaints myself but I figure at the end the truth will prevail. I am not the smartest person in the world but I would think it would be impossible to healthly maintain 155 dogs and give them all the love and attention they actually need. Many of these dogs are maitained in Neuman, CA where they are kept in a farm like atmosphere. Is this slander? No, because this is something that is factual. The best thing to do is check with the local animal control as well as USDA and see if they are in compliance with city, county, state and federal law. In addition if a breeder is not willing to, "stand behind their dogs" then they are obviously not worth your time. I ask you readers to read your "California State Puppy Lemon Laws" these laws were made to protect the buyer as well as the seller. If you follow the rules and maintain good morales and ethics then you can't go wrong; thus no complaints...

Hello Judy, Charles, I am Pick of the Litter also known as Debbie McCooeye.

Thank you for your comments and concerns. There is no doubt I will be following up with your suggestions. I have already been to the Sacramento website and I have emailed you.

You mention others. This seriously concerns me. I knew in my heart that there were others but to see it in type is distressing.

My heart goes out to these adult dogs owned by this lady.

As I understand it, the adults live in a kennel year round. The dams are brought out of the kennel long enough to whelp their young. Then back they go.

These adult dogs do not know the joy of having a forever family. They do not sleep on couches, beds, and human laps. They do not get the one on one attention they deserve from a loving forever family. They don't get that small little piece of leftover chicken after dinner. The car rides and companionship of a loving family.
Chihuahuas can be very posessive of their owner. It is in their nature to own their human. These adult dogs don't have that either.

They are not the beloved pets of these people. They are only the means to make a buck.

When they are not being used for their only purpose in life, they are living in a large kennel facility with many other animals. They are about 50 miles away from the people that are their registered owners.

At least the puppies are only with these people a short time. They have a way out. They get their forever family. Unfortunately, it seems the pups are ill. There are two examples just here on ripoff report. And you mention more.

I would love to become an advocate for these babies. I would also love to be able to help in anyway I can to further your cause with regard to this breeder.

Please contact me.

Charles,
You say you have had a similar circumstance. Was it with this breeder? Or another? How did you resolve your problems? Was it a health issue as well? I have many, many questions.

Thank you for listening to me. Thankyou for your support of our situation. It means a lot.

Hello Judy, Charles, I am Pick of the Litter also known as Debbie McCooeye.

Thank you for your comments and concerns. There is no doubt I will be following up with your suggestions. I have already been to the Sacramento website and I have emailed you.

You mention others. This seriously concerns me. I knew in my heart that there were others but to see it in type is distressing.

My heart goes out to these adult dogs owned by this lady.

As I understand it, the adults live in a kennel year round. The dams are brought out of the kennel long enough to whelp their young. Then back they go.

These adult dogs do not know the joy of having a forever family. They do not sleep on couches, beds, and human laps. They do not get the one on one attention they deserve from a loving forever family. They don't get that small little piece of leftover chicken after dinner. The car rides and companionship of a loving family.
Chihuahuas can be very posessive of their owner. It is in their nature to own their human. These adult dogs don't have that either.

They are not the beloved pets of these people. They are only the means to make a buck.

When they are not being used for their only purpose in life, they are living in a large kennel facility with many other animals. They are about 50 miles away from the people that are their registered owners.

At least the puppies are only with these people a short time. They have a way out. They get their forever family. Unfortunately, it seems the pups are ill. There are two examples just here on ripoff report. And you mention more.

I would love to become an advocate for these babies. I would also love to be able to help in anyway I can to further your cause with regard to this breeder.

Please contact me.

Charles,
You say you have had a similar circumstance. Was it with this breeder? Or another? How did you resolve your problems? Was it a health issue as well? I have many, many questions.

Thank you for listening to me. Thankyou for your support of our situation. It means a lot.

Hello Judy, Charles, I am Pick of the Litter also known as Debbie McCooeye.

Thank you for your comments and concerns. There is no doubt I will be following up with your suggestions. I have already been to the Sacramento website and I have emailed you.

You mention others. This seriously concerns me. I knew in my heart that there were others but to see it in type is distressing.

My heart goes out to these adult dogs owned by this lady.

As I understand it, the adults live in a kennel year round. The dams are brought out of the kennel long enough to whelp their young. Then back they go.

These adult dogs do not know the joy of having a forever family. They do not sleep on couches, beds, and human laps. They do not get the one on one attention they deserve from a loving forever family. They don't get that small little piece of leftover chicken after dinner. The car rides and companionship of a loving family.
Chihuahuas can be very posessive of their owner. It is in their nature to own their human. These adult dogs don't have that either.

They are not the beloved pets of these people. They are only the means to make a buck.

When they are not being used for their only purpose in life, they are living in a large kennel facility with many other animals. They are about 50 miles away from the people that are their registered owners.

At least the puppies are only with these people a short time. They have a way out. They get their forever family. Unfortunately, it seems the pups are ill. There are two examples just here on ripoff report. And you mention more.

I would love to become an advocate for these babies. I would also love to be able to help in anyway I can to further your cause with regard to this breeder.

Please contact me.

Charles,
You say you have had a similar circumstance. Was it with this breeder? Or another? How did you resolve your problems? Was it a health issue as well? I have many, many questions.

Thank you for listening to me. Thankyou for your support of our situation. It means a lot.

Hello Judy, Charles, I am Pick of the Litter also known as Debbie McCooeye.

Thank you for your comments and concerns. There is no doubt I will be following up with your suggestions. I have already been to the Sacramento website and I have emailed you.

You mention others. This seriously concerns me. I knew in my heart that there were others but to see it in type is distressing.

My heart goes out to these adult dogs owned by this lady.

As I understand it, the adults live in a kennel year round. The dams are brought out of the kennel long enough to whelp their young. Then back they go.

These adult dogs do not know the joy of having a forever family. They do not sleep on couches, beds, and human laps. They do not get the one on one attention they deserve from a loving forever family. They don't get that small little piece of leftover chicken after dinner. The car rides and companionship of a loving family.
Chihuahuas can be very posessive of their owner. It is in their nature to own their human. These adult dogs don't have that either.

They are not the beloved pets of these people. They are only the means to make a buck.

When they are not being used for their only purpose in life, they are living in a large kennel facility with many other animals. They are about 50 miles away from the people that are their registered owners.

At least the puppies are only with these people a short time. They have a way out. They get their forever family. Unfortunately, it seems the pups are ill. There are two examples just here on ripoff report. And you mention more.

I would love to become an advocate for these babies. I would also love to be able to help in anyway I can to further your cause with regard to this breeder.

Please contact me.

Charles,
You say you have had a similar circumstance. Was it with this breeder? Or another? How did you resolve your problems? Was it a health issue as well? I have many, many questions.

Thank you for listening to me. Thankyou for your support of our situation. It means a lot.

It is always best to visit the home of the individual you are dealing with; also if the individual is out of your local area check for references, breed club association, past customers, etc...

Unfortunately you'll see some really good dogs that have contributed a lot to the breed end up in the arms of the puppy miller or "breed for greed" programs.

I hope this is a learning lesson to you as I myself went through similar instances.

I can not blame you for not recommending this breeder; a reputation is built upon the character of the owner(s).

I am the referral person for Chihuahuas for the Sacramento Council of Dog Clubs. In the past year I've received at least a dozen calls from people who have been ripped off by these ladies that have sold them a Chihuahua. There is only one way to put them out of business and that is to hit them in the pocket book. "Millers" count on two things: 1) the popularity of the breed they are exploiting & 2) the fact that you will bond with the pup and eventually drop any action that you may have taken, since you won't give up the pup. Small claims court is a good place to start. You don't need an attorney, you can file up to $5000. & court costs are usually very small. 9 times out of 10 they will not appear for their court date and you win automatically. But if they do, you have your vet expenses and everything else available (ie contracts) to plead your case. When you win and they do not pay, you can put a lien on their homes, etc. If this business operation of theirs starts costing them too much money, they will look for something else to exploit, but hopefully not dogs.

The other thing that you can do to help future victims is to help educate the public. If people know to stay away from "millers" they can't stay in business. A grocery store cannot keep its doors open if it has no customers. Same here. Sad to say, Chihuahua litters are small and many people have been searching a long time to find a pup. They see a sophisticated web site on the internet and are duped into believing they are dealing with an educated, ethical breeder. The American Kennel Club ( www.akc.org ) and a local group here ( www.sacramentodogcouncil.com ) both have information on evaluating a breeder when obtaining a pup. The Sacramento site also has info on some of the California dog laws.

Good luck on your crusade and please hang in there. These people give true, responsible breeders a bad name. If I can be of any help, please post your questions below.

April,

Remember I told you my dog has hydrocephalus.

This is a congenital disorder.

I also said that I bet she would breed either the sire or dam again.

Boy was I right.

She has Gomez's sire listed RIGHT NOW as the sire of a new litter just coming due.

I sure wish those puppies well. I hate the thought of them being as sick as my boy. Poor things. It isn't their fault.

I sure hope they go to homes that can afford the bills and the new owners don't take the easy way out and euthenise a sick pup.

I really feel for these poor pups. It is sooo sad.

Hi April,

I know exactly what you are saying. I have also received the nasty emails you speak of. In my case they have even gone farther. Too far. I have been put in a position that I have had to seek police help for defamation of character. They have dedicated a whole page to me on their website.

I have occasionally had a bad day too. But I am going to pursue this to the end. Not for me. But for Gomez and for the next child that cries in the night because their pup has died.
I have compiled a very strong case with regard to the actions against me.

I am not sure if you know this but, California law dictates (if you have proper evidence) that the breeder is responsible for all medical bills for diagnosis and treatment of a congenital defect. Up to 150% of the purchase price of the dog.

I noticed the contract changes over the past few weeks about Tyler's problem. I knew that there was another unhappy customer out there. The pattern is repeating itself.

How many others are there?

If you change your mind or you just want to "talk" I am available to you. I am in the exact situation. I will not pressure you.

I wish you and Tyler well,

The only way to stop Internet sales of companion animals is to keep informing the public and reporting what could happen if you purchase via the Internet. While I agree with getting a rescue or a shelter companion animal (most breeds show up in shelters and there are breed rescues all over the country), if you must purchase a breed dog, you should not only see the dog, you should meet the parents, get references from the breeder and check them out!

Hi Deborah,

I'm sorry to hear about the troubles you are going through with your chi's. I can only imagine how horrible the situation must be for you. :(

I wish you success with your quest for justice, but I have decided it is not worth it for me to continue to try and get satisfaction. The emails they sent me were awful and were getting me very upset and worked up too much. It is much easier for me to swallow because I only bought one dog, and paid $700. Also, Tyler is fine (after a very costly operation), so I would just rather forget about the whole thing and move on. I'm sure little Gomez is very lucky to have you. I will keep both of you in my prayers.

As for why people like us by such dogs, we are looking for certain breed characteristics (in this case - mostly size) and a specific look. Debbie advertizes very small dogs, with the extreme look that a lot of people like, so I can see why Deborah bought from her. I am actually an advocate of saving a life and adopting from the ASPCA, but when you are looking for something in particular, it can be almost imposible to find. To find a chihuahua under 4 pounds (no matter what the look) in a shelter is extremely rare. Yes, anyone looking for a 'family' dog, should be first checking the shelters to see if they can find a match. There are soooo many great dogs just waiting for a chance. I volunteered at the SPCA in Vancouver for years. (BTW, Hello Fellow Canucker!) I think the real answer is, if you have to go to a breeder because you are looking for traits that are hard to find (eg - a working German Shepherd - my next purchase), you should be looking only as far as you are willing to drive. Check out their dogs, the area that they keep them, ask lots of questions, read their body language, and just thouroughly check them out.

Deborah, whether you get any justice at the end of all this, be comforted that these people will be judged and will have to account for their actions.

Actually I agree with you. If only I had of known 4 months ago what I know now. Since this happened to us, I have done a lot of research. Next time I buy something that costs the price of a small house downpayment, I will do a lot more research. An animal shelter is an awesome place to buy. And some of the pets come with some sort of guarantee. Most are also already spayed or neutered. It is also the best bang for your buck.

YEP I AGREE......

I am sure I'll get slammed by you for pointing out the obvious here.

Why do you people by animals from someone who is either in another state, or another country?

This seems to be rather foolish. I can get any breed of dog I want without driving more than 50 miles. What possible reason could anyone have for doing otherwise? Wait, that's two questions. Sorry. This site is filled with posts from people who do what you do.

Next time, try going to the shelter and getting a dog that actually needs a home. I know, it's not that "special-one of a kind-inbred for generations-pure bloodline-psychotic retard-dog" you're trying to get, but at least the ones at the shelter are alive and well. They have also been trained for the most part. I have never met a bad one that came from a shelter, and they all lived long, happy lives.

Let the slamming begin!

Hi April,

I also received the exact same service and my dog is dying from hydrocephalus. I knew these two were closely associated. I have received very threatening emails from Debra. I had the same problem with who the breeder was too. I thought I was buying Debra's pup. When I did get the papers her name was not on them. She is a broker.
I knew she was hiding from another unhappy client. I have been watching her contract very closely. There was never any mention about patellas. In the past week or so the contract has been changed to read certain grades of severity. I KNEW IT!!!! They are so dishonest it is incredible.
She did the same to me. As soon as I provided proof of hydrocephalus, the contract started changing. Keep copying the contract everytime she makes a change. She will email you with nasty letters. Threaten you and harass you. Do NOT give up. We should get together and find other clients in the same situation. I know I have been looking for you. As soon as I saw the patella clause I KNEW!!!
If we can get a couple of people we can file a class action. Also, the FBI has an internet fraud site. This issue is covered. Call animal control. USDA. I checked the list of licensed breeders yesterday and found no license for them. There is no license under brokers either. Contact the governor general in California. Copy out the California puppy lemon law.I can give you all the names and addresses I have contacted. We can work together so this does not happen to another.
Debra has been changing her ad names and even advertises under different first names now. She works out of a PO Box and only has a cell phone.
Debra was operating yesterday under 5-6 different company names.
CROOKED!!!! They even have an ad that states "you get what you pay for".
Very coarse people with no morals or ethics as far as I am concerned. Just in it for the money.
Contact me please. I have nothing to hide. Breeders like this are just puppymills. No regard for the life they are creating. And you know what? My puppy has confirmed hydrocephalus from a sonogram and a neuro vet. I will bet you that they will breed the sire and dam again. Maybe not to one another, but they will breed them. An ethical breeder would spay and neuter to preserve the quality of the breed.
I wish you the BEST of luck. You will need it believe me. I am now being accused by Debra of identity theft because my name is Debbie too. lol lol lol

Debbie dmccooi@yahoo.com

Also, I forgot to add that Dawn's site had been modified soon after all this happened. She now has carefully included what she needs to say to cover her butt.

Dawn: You really should be ashamed of yourself for charging breeders $100.00 'membership fee' to be apart of your 'better breeders' website. It's one thing to be an unethical breeder yourself, but to lure other good breeders into your own cesspool is dispicable.