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Complaint Review: Circle City Miss Corona Scholarship Pageant - Internet

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  • Circle City Miss Corona Scholarship Pageant 387 Magnolia Ave #103-242 Internet United States of America

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The Circle City Miss Corona Scholarship Pageant boasts on line that it gives over $10,000. in scholarships each year. To date, the queens, who are said to be the recipients of the scholarship monies, who faithfully took time out of busy schedules to attend events and help out as was their duty, have yet to be paid after giving up their title in November 2009 following the completion of their one year reign.  


Numerous promises both verbal and written were made for payment of the scholarships due but the scholarship never materialized. 

Monday January 25 the unpaid, previous queens filed in small claims court in Riverside Ca.

During a meeting of the queens to fill out court paperwork it was discovered that said business did not posses a business license to do business in the city of Corona according to the city's on line service.  This fact was later confirmed by a city of Corona business licensing department employee.

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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Dear Amelia

AUTHOR: Circle City Miss Corona Pageant - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, March 11, 2010

I love the fact that you all write that you are anonymous in Tememcula.  First I would like to ask you how I ripped you off.  I believe you removed your daughter from the pageant.  I still have the e-mail.

In response to your comments here, I have never said that your personal issues were the reason the girls didn't get paid.  In the case of you and April, you both chose to have your daughters were other titles while in Corona.  Stating that your daughters would not be wearing the Corona crowns anymore. Your personal issues were brought up so that I could clarify comments made by Ellen regarding the terrible things I did to Apirl, Amelia (you) and Mellissa.  I am glad to hear that you and your daughter are moving along with life and doing great.  I only explained what I felt our (meaning your's and my) issues were about. You chose to remove your daughter therefor no scholarship.

If I am going to be accused of doing some terrible thing to you or any other queen's mom, I want people to be clear of what it was.  Maybe you should tell Ellen to not bring you up in this issue if you do not want me to explain what transpired.  Like I said earlier, I still have all the e-mails.

And to the other anonymous in Corona person, you all love to make accusations, but I don't see you explaining anything.  I am unresponsible, irresponsible and an unrelaible source of the truth. Funny I can explain my actions for doing the things I have done.  You all say I have done terrilbe thing to people but haven't explained what these terrible things are.  I guess that is why you all want to say you are anonymous.

You are all trying to discredit me.  Sending out e-mails and blue envelopes to everyone, just in case they didn't read the newspaper the other day.  Like I tell everyone check out the comment section after the article on line at the PE.  I actually got a e-mail back and a phone call after I contacted the paper on being one sided and printing only what sells papers.  They will print this type of stuff but, wont print an article when you win the title and the things in the community you do.

What I am guilty of is not being able to pay these 4 queens the day of the pageant. I am not trying to rip them off or refusing to pay them.  I have been trying to make payment arrangments with these girls. They just don't want to agree with what I can offer them at this time. So why haven't these girls accepted my payment arrangments? Maybe because I have asked them to supply the list of people they have sent discrediting e-mails to.  I guess this is the reason why you all want to be anonymous?  I will point you out. I don't understand why you all want to be anonymous.  If you have an issue quite hiding.  I think you want to stay anonymous because of the other things you have been doing to discreadit my name and my company. 

 

 

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UN UN UN

AUTHOR: annoynmous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 03, 2010

I find the organizer of Circle City Miss Corona Scholarship Pageant to be unprofessional, unorganized, and an unreliable source of the truth.

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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Stop the lies

AUTHOR: anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 03, 2010

Fisrt I must say that my husband's death has nothing to do with the fact that Erlinda did not pay the Queens their monies owed them.  My husband and I had great plans for our future.  We will miss him dearly. My daughter who is five is struggling everyday, and so am I.  You should not lie about people, especially when you are not apart of their day to day lives.  My husband had a family, us.  So he had a home.

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Lets Clarify Some Things here.

AUTHOR: Circle City Miss Corona Pageant - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 02, 2010

Okay. This is getting ridicules. Lets clarify some things here.   Nic-of Corona is Nicole Baldwin the Junior Teen Miss Corona on this law suite that was stripped of her scholarship. Oh yeah, she is also the proxy representative for 2008-2009 as well as the proxy representative for 2009-2010 Jr Teen Miss California United States. Proxy meaning she purchased the title to represent California in a pageant held in Las Vegas. I love the way she talks about her mother. Here let me quote her. I cant even go into what you have done to this Ellen person. Not to mention April, Amelia and Melissa. And many more, to many to list. Ill address these three ladies in a second. I actually think it was written by Ellen herself. It sounds like her. Just like she stated in her last E-mail to me. Pit Bull that will never give up. This sounds just like her. If it is Nicole writing this kind of stuff. I really fill sorry for her, she is following in her mothers footsteps. This is coming from a person who say they go to church and even quote the bible on face book. In my opinion people who hold grudges against others will just shrivel up and die, Ive learned to forgive people. It feels better. Why should I hate.

As for the person who lives in Temecula responding to this joke. I actually think its someone in this group of three trying to make me out as a bad person. I dont know anyone from Temecula. Funny that they list themselves as anonymous (in Temecucla) Why not be upfront with who you are. I guess you have something to hide. Why didnt you post this bad experience with me. You took the time to make a comment so why stop there.

So lets start with the three people Nic stated above. Amelias husband died, during the time that her daughter was queen. I couldnt make it to her husbands funeral, because it was the same day I had to have my son at his physical for Boot Camp USMC. I had to be their at 3am, drive back home and then out to LA to Amelias husbands funeral. In the next few weeks following the funeral I lost two very close friends.

My sisters x-husband. Your thinking hes her x-husband. Well for the amount of years they were married. Her step-kids still to this day consider her mom and us family and they come to our family function . He died of Cancer. The other was the son of a life long friend of my mothers. We grew up together. He was found murdered in a telephone booth in LA. With all this going on I still hadnt sent out the sympathy card for Amelia and her daughter. To my surprise I got a call from Amelia, Im still not sure what the call was for other than she started out upset because I didnt go to her husbands funeral nor did I send her card out. When I tried to explain why, she wanted to know why I didnt notify the Queens and their moms about the deaths in my family. They dont have a clue who these people are so why should I impose on them. She said she would have gone to their funeral. Why? Anyway she was very upset with me. As we continued talking I was well aware of marital problems with her and her husband and I made a comment which was probable not the right thing to say. But I did. I said that in time things will get easier for her and her daughter. With all the problems I have had with my x-husband over the last 7 years I would have preferred him to have died. Well that was it. I started getting e-mails from Amelia non stop. Telling me how rude I was. I has contacted by April as well regarding Amelia. Aprils daughter was the sweetheart queen. Telling me that she can not believe how inconsiderate I was to Amelia, who had just lost her husband. That I have to learn how to talk to grieving people. I guess my loosing two close friends, didnt count as me being a grieving person also. Not to mention that my son had just left to the Marine Corps. I had to remind April, that Amelias husband did not live in their home. He was staying in an apartment, or I should say hotel. I tried apologizing to Amelia, but she would not accept it. Then at an event that one of my queens attended where she was receiving an award for saving a young boys life. They should up to support their sister queens wearing titles from a different pageant. Sending me a e-mail stating that they will never show up to a Corona event wearing the Circle City Miss Corona crowns again. I then sent them an E-mail stating that I was accepting their e-mail as their official resignation. In Melissas case, she actually had two daughters who were queens. I did not strip their titles but informed their mother along with several other queens that they needed to make more appearances or they would be jeopardizing their scholarship. Each of her daughters made an appearance at 1 event each. Day of the Child and the 4th of July parade. I know because I keep track of appearances. We host a Queens meeting once a month and they are advised as to where and when appearances are to be made. I believe Melissa showed up to two of these meetings. E-mails are sent out letting the queens and their parents know of upcoming events as well. I also spoke with Melissa about a month before the queens were to give up their title inviting her to bring her daughters to crown the new queens and she could not make it. That she totally understood the reason her daughters were not receiving their scholarships. Because these little girls, are under the age of 10 I did not strip their titles. Allowing them to keep their crowns. According to our rules they are to return all prizes and awards given. Have not received one thing.

Know lets get back to nics response. She states that now where does it say in Natalies response that I made any type of arrangements to pay anyone. Let me quote Natalies response The last time the girls have ever heard from you with any offer of resolution was December 27, 2009. In this e-mail I sent out I agreed to pay them each $50 a month until I got my Income tax back. My personal income tax, at that time paying them in full. Did I receive a yes I will agree from any of them NO! I did get a response from three of the other queens saying that they agreed. Actually some made other arrangements. I did received an e-mail from I believe it was either Natalie or her mom stating that it was not acceptable and that there are ways to ruin a business by word of mouth. Something along that line. I would have to go back and re-read the e-mail. I also listed a breakdown on this e-mail as to how much each of the queens were entitled to. Nicole was listed as Zero. Since then e-mails have been sent to everyone in town and outside of town. I guess Ellen is determine to win. I have been contacted by people who as far away as Yucaipa, the High desert, Rancho, Moreno Valley, just to name a few, have received e-mails from Ellen. Most of these people are asking me what is going on. I just tell them that Ellen is on a mission to win. I stripped her daughter of her scholarship and to quote her last e-mail she said she is a Pit Bull when it comes to her daughter and she will win. Most of these people have had run ins with Ellen as well as her daughter Nicole. Some to the point that the police have had to be called in. I have statements from these people to justify the removal of her scholarship. Nic also makes a comment about where are the returned checks. Why would I send checks out if they are not in agreement with the proposal. You also make a comment about a demand letter. I dont know what demand letter you are talking about. The only item I received was paperwork that I was served with at a public event attended by several public officials. You could have had me served at my home address but instead you choose to do this in front of a big crowd. Were you trying to cause a scene. I think you made a bigger scene by walking out before the meeting we were at was over.

If anyone has had a cell phone where the screen goes out, you know what I am talking about. Occasionally the cell phone screen works. My phone does not mark unidentified calls, when the screen works to return a call.

Funny how this is listed as they are being ripped off. That I refuse to contact them or pay them. Yet know they are making mistakes stating that they did hear from me. That I did contact them. Nic is trying to make it sound like Natalie is talking about something different. I have the copies of the e-mails to show the court. Sending e-mails out to everyone quoting or saying the wrong thing is called slander. Writing a letter to the newspaper so that they would write up a story using a photo with 13 people in it was a little miss leading. Try going on line and reading my comments on the article. I was contacted by the news media to respond. Funny she miss quoted things several times. I then sent a e-mail to her and the editor. Funny I got a response back from her, she was not to happy. Remember papers write only what sells papers. I also posted a photo of three of the 4 girls in this lawsuit. This is the photo that should have been sent or should have been posted in the paper. I left out the 4th queen only because she is under 10 years old. Oh! I did get an e-mail from her mom, asking me if her daughter was still going to receive her scholarship because she attended 50% more events than the other little queens. However none of the others involved in this law suit have contacted me. I have though been contacted by several city officials saying that they received an anonymous blue envelope in the mail with a copy of this article in it. Why not place a return address on the envelope. What! You dont want people to find out who is slandering me and the pageant. Wow!

 

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#6 Consumer Comment

I also had a very bad experience.

AUTHOR: anonymous - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, February 20, 2010

I am in full support of all the 2009 Circle City Miss Corona Queens that have choosen to stand up for themselves.  I also had a very bad experience with Erlinda the owner.  In my opinion Erlinda should have never started this pageant without having the scholarship funds. To best of my knowledge everything that the 2009 Queens are saying is true.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Wizard of Oz & other fantasy stories for $500 Alex

AUTHOR: Nic - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, February 19, 2010

Bitter! You never cease to amaze.  After all the evil, cruel, nasty things you have said and done, after all the lies upon lies, you have your nerve!

Intentions do not equal money.  I intend to be a millionaire but if  do nothing to make it happen it never will.  Intentions are nothing with out follow through.
You knew all along you didn't have the money but still chose to assure everyone days before the pageant that the money would be there on pageant day instead of just being honest which you say you are so big on.  Why would you do this knowing you did not have the money?
Your poor financial planning is your problem.  The bills you say you didn't expect only add up to $1300 suggesting you had the money but had to pay those bills.  You owed a lot more than $1300. in scholarships.  Where is the rest?  Why didn't you pay what you had.  Or is the truth that you had none of the money but chose to tell people you did?
Your email that you sent out explaining you were turned down for the loan you had applied for, said it was a bank specifically.  Now conveniently it wasn't.  Which story is true?  Which should we depend on this week?
FYI paying everything in cash doesn't build credit just so you know.
Ok you just need to stop with the statements about having offered actual payment arrangements prior to Feb 18.  Let the record show, Feb 18th was the first time you attempted to make a payment arrangement at all what so ever! The statement that you have tried to make payment arrangements prior to Feb 18th is just another one of those statements which hold no identifiable truth.  Why do you keep saying it?  Show the proof! Where are the returned checks from the girls who won't accept payment arrangements. Oh ya, there are none. Put your money where your mouth is. You made many promises and followed through with none. AND in your first and only offer ever put on the table, you don't want to start payments until March 26th, over a month away.  Why should anyone believe this will actually happen.  It is convenient that the date falls after the court date so it would have to be refilde if your usual pattern continued.  I don't think so but nice try. Your previous queens are too smart for that stunt.
There are so many holes in your cell phone excuse like how you say your screen doesn't work but then state in an email that if anyone calls you on a blocked number, you will not pick up the phone because if they don't want you to know who is calling, why should you answer it.  You said that.  How can you see the number and identify it is blocked if your screen is broken?  Also, no one texted you we just called and you avoided the calls - end of story.  These are the actual FACTS!!
Even when you were mailed the demand letter you still made no contact and attempt to make payment arrangements.  Please provide proof for all of these attempts you made because curiously no one has them, not one. It is crazy for you to insist you made attempts because that is a LIE once and for all!!!! You are not convincing anyone except maybe your self.
I can't even go in to what you have done to this Ellen person not to mention April, Amelia and Melissa and many more, too many to list.  What is your problem?  You twist the truth so far beyond recognizability that there is no longer a reference point.  Stop terrorizing people they are starting to compare notes! There are enough of them now to start a club or support group or something. 
Now you have tried to say you only owe one girl......one could have seen this coming when you fabricated the whole "pre-teen" girl story that you would systematically eliminate girls one by one using one excuse or another. Next it will be Ashley and you will claim you owe no one. Too bad there is in existence an email you sent where you said you knew you owed ALL the girls and you made a promise to the date they would all be paid but as you know it never happened.  Don't think the lie about the trust fund check which had matured and you had deposited which bought you ten days of peace since you said there was a hold on it, has been forgotten. By the way, do I dare even ask for an explanation on what happened there? I'm sure you have one.
I don't see how you read that Natalie said you tried to make payments.  She was referring to one of the many times you said you'd show up with the money but as we all know FAILED to do.  That is not a payment since the money was not received!  This is not hard to understand but for some reason for you it is like rocket science.  Unfulfilled promises are not payment arrangements.  She refers to dates you promised but DID NOT follow through with.
Since there is still no money, it remains to be seen if it is a rip off.  One can only speculate at this point.  The hope is for the best but so far it hasn't seem to go in that direction.  You offer to make payments but where are they after 3 months? You actually have to make a payment for it to be an arrangement, not intend to make a payment but never do it.  Since they have had numerous broken promises and fabricated stories, what makes it safe to think this time the money will actually materialize.
You insisting over and over you have done something you did not do does not make it magically true.  Just because you click your heals together and repeat the lie it will not change a lie to truth. This is not the Wizard of Oz.
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

In response to your comments

AUTHOR: Circle City Miss Corona Pageant - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, February 18, 2010

 

I am so sorry that you all are so bitter. Couple things I want to say here. I was always my intention to pay you all at the end of your reign. Unfortunately this was my first year putting on this pageant and I incurred some expenses that I did not have on my budget. Therefore funds ran short. The loan to pay you girls back was not coming from a bank. I would like Natalie who so blatantly put it, The banks dont even trust her know why I didnt go through a bank. I had my credit ruined through a nasty divorce several years back and I have been trying to build it back up since then. So I pay everything in cash. Did any of you ever stop to think if you took the arrangements I was making with you they would have happened. Instead of working with me. You all chose to e-mail everyone around town and then some, with slanderous e-mails. How do I know this. I got called about them. My phone was not turned off as to not receive calls from you all. My phone unfortunately was not working. I have a cell phone that I can not even read the screen so sending me text are not readable. I do have an e-mail address that you all could have sent me e-mails on. I believe I have a P.O. box that a letter could be sent to. But I did not receive anything. Instead I received calls from people who wanted to know what the e-mails they were receiving were all about. Most of them coming from Ellen. If you all are not sure what she sent out I think you might want to ask her. Ashley, youre the only one on this law suite that I feel deserves the scholarship money. I believe Natalies rebuttal states that I did try to pay them or make arrangements and they were informed when things fell through. She even lists the dates. So I guess I am not ripping them off. They did not want to receive payment arrangements or work with me instead they chose to file a lawsuit requesting payment. According to the paperwork I received it say for me to make payment arrangements. If they do not agree, or I do not follow through then we should appear in court and let the court decide payment arrangements. They will be receiving my offer today in an e-mail as well as via the mail. So again I am trying to pay them not rip them off.

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#3 Consumer Comment

The truth, The whole truth and Nothing but the truth

AUTHOR: Natalie - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, February 15, 2010






The lawsuit that was filed has nothing to do with anything other than the fact that the monies due to the Queens were not paid.  You failed several attempts to pay these girls starting on November 14, 2009, the day of the pageant when you said theyd have the money that day.  The last promise you made to them about getting their money was December 23, 2009.  On that day, they waited around all day for you, and you turned your phone off and would not take their calls.  The last time the girls have ever heard from you with any offer of resolution was December 27, 2009 and at that time, you said you would try to get them payments which is no resolution at all.  Why in the world would you think they would enter into a payment agreement with you?  You have proven that you will lie to them and they no longer consider you a good credit risk.  Apparently neither does a bank.  You should pay them the money that is due and consider not running a business without the capital to run it.  It is certainly a learning experience for them to see the legal system at work. 

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#2 Consumer Comment

Lies

AUTHOR: ash - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 10, 2010

The rebuttal, as I read it, does NOT reflect what I witnessed to be TRUTH at all.  In my opinion, statements made about the original author and situations which re-butter (owner of the pageant) says occurred, are contrary to my experience and I do NOT believe they hold any truth as far as I am aware.


She did give us dates as to when we would be paid, however none of them have been fufilled. Eventually, she stopped answering her phone to avoid questions regarding the money. This left us no choice but to file in small claims. For a business that is supposed to empower women, it sure has been a thorn in my side since I have given up my title.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

THE TRUTH

AUTHOR: Circle City Miss Corona Pageant - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, February 08, 2010

It is true that the 2009 Circle City Miss Corona Queens have not received the scholarship money owed to them. I believe in speaking the truth about what is going on. I hope you will read on to hear the truth.

The 2008-2009 Circle City Miss Corona Queens were the first queens crowned by our pageant. These queens did not compete for their title they were appointed by me. After several months as queens 2 of the younger queens withdrew from the pageant before there reign was up, therefore forfeiting their scholarships. I did allow them to keep their crowns and sashes. However in the contract their parents signed I had every right to request everything back. This would be the Sweetheart and Toddler Queens.

Each of our contestants are asked to sign a contract as well as a list of rules and regulations pertaining to the pageant. In order to receive your scholarship you as a queen must attend at least 75% of the events listed for you to attend if you are a Pre-teen through Miss Queen. If you are a Baby through Junior Queen, you must attend at least 50% of the scheduled items. The 2008-2009 Baby and Little Miss Queens were contacted and explained that if they did not attend events related to the pageants contract they would not be receiving their scholarship at the end of their reign. These two queens are sisters. When I spoke to their mother she said that she understood and would be satisfied with just the sash and crown. These 4 queens did not attend the pageant for 2009-2010. If I go back and check appearances, with the exception of two queens not one has made it to 75% of the events scheduled.

This left me with 7 queens. The Junior Queen, choose to run in our 2009-2010 and applied her winnings to the entry fee for this years pageant. This left 6 queens that still needed to receive their scholarship. Because this was our first year putting on the pageant we did not anticipate several unexpected expenses. Like paying the school district $800 for a janitor and needing to pay for a 1 million dollar insurance policy to put on the pageant this last year. These were expenses that were given to me 3 days before the pageant. There were several other unexpected fees that needed to be paid by our pageant.

Each of these queens received a written notification as to the reason why they had not received their scholarship and were promised that they would be paid in due time. For two of the queens there is no problem and they will wait to be paid. One of the queens demanding payment was striped of her scholarship due to her and her mothers problem with moral issues. This is also another rule on our contract and rules and regulations that are signed by each contestant. If they are a minor it is signed by their parent. This Queen

(Pre-teen Queen) due to her talking bad of people, caused a contestant to withdraw from the pageant as well as several other harmful comments regarding other queens. Her mother sent letters to everyone regarding an incident her daughter had with my daughter regarding her talking on her cell phone and talking while other people are trying to train the contestants. Her mother insulted my daughter demanding an apology to her daughter in front of all the contestants. I agreed but said that my daughter would only apologize for the tone of voice she used, not the reason. This was not good enough. She threatened that if her daughter did not receive a proper apology that she (the mother) would cause a scene which would involve having the police brought into the mater. At this point she was told to not come back. Because of this she has instigated the other queens to demand their scholarship paid to them immediately. I have explained that at this time I can not pay all of them their scholarship money but will be paying them as the money comes into the company. We will be hosting our fundraiser in a couple months and I will have no problem paying them. I also informed them that as soon as I got my taxes back I would pay them as well. I have tried to make some type of payment arrangements with them but they have files a small claims case against the pageant anyway. The paperwork from the court, states that I as the defendant should try to make some type of payment arrangements with them. But they do not want to work something out. So I am left no other alternative but to show up in court to have the court make arrangements with them.

I hope this has cleared the matter up with all who look at this rip-off report. I am not trying to rip off these queens I am trying to work with them to get them paid as quickly as possible.

I am a member of the Corona Chamber of Commerce and the reason I do not have a Corona business license is because the main location for my business is in Redlands.

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